Sumter County Taxes

[tjlee500]

I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so. I got my tax bill for Nov. and realised I could not afford a lump sum payment. I am a senion on a fixed income. I called Randy Mask line and was told I should have filled out a payment form which I did not know about. I have since filled it out for 2020. I was also told I could submit a form to pay current taxes over 5 months - Nov. to March and did that. I sent in a check for as much as I could afford. I went online this week to make a payment and there was NO option to put in an amount, just full payment.

I called and explained my issue, was put on hold for a while and was told, yes, I would be charged FULL amount online.

Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way? Why can't we make partial payments online if we have an agreement? This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job. Giving the option to make an agreed upon partial payment hurts nobody but makes it easier for seniors to pay their taxes.

[retiredguy123]

I think you can use a credit card, but they charge a convenience fee. But, then you can pay off the credit card monthly.

[dewilson58]

How much was your total tax bill last year and what is your total tax for this year??

[vintageogauge]

I'm not 100% sure but I think you can go to the county building or the tax collectors office over there and pay in person, that way you would be getting personal attention and should be able to get the help you need.

[Toymeister]

To directly answer your question which is effectively "how come installment payment options are not available online":

Cost.

No doubt Sumter county paid an outside firm to develop their website. It was completed and paid for.

If they were to change the website for you and others in the same predicament incurring the cost to change it then imagine the uproar here. Headlines in the forum like:. "Why is the county paying extra to serve a few?"

It is not difficult to call and sign up for installment payments or unenroll from them either.

I am sorry that the tax hike is placing you in a bind.

[golfing eagles]

I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so. I got my tax bill for Nov. and realised I could not afford a lump sum payment. I am a senion on a fixed income. I called Randy Mask line and was told I should have filled out a payment form which I did not know about. I have since filled it out for 2020. I was also told I could submit a form to pay current taxes over 5 months - Nov. to March and did that. I sent in a check for as much as I could afford. I went online this week to make a payment and there was NO option to put in an amount, just full payment.

I called and explained my issue, was put on hold for a while and was told, yes, I would be charged FULL amount online.

Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way? Why can't we make partial payments online if we have an agreement? This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job. Giving the option to make an agreed upon partial payment hurts nobody but makes it easier for seniors to pay their taxes.

I certainly don't want to sound cruel or insensitive, but I am a realist. Like you, I am retired, and actually on less than a fixed income since I have no pension and no social security. However:

1) "I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so."

You don't really get the choice of whether or not you WANT to pay your taxes, otherwise no one would.

2) "Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way?"

We are not being treated any different than any other taxpayer

3) We both knew what our taxes were when we purchased our homes, I didn't for a moment think that they would do anything other than go up

4) We both knew that the tax bill, along with any bond, was an annual lump sum payment

5) "Why can't we make partial payments online"

Because Sumter County is a government taxing authority, NOT a finance company

6) Try this argument with the IRS and see how far you get

7) "This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job."

I don't view it as right or wrong, it's simply the way it is, like most places in the country. And I doubt Randy Mask's job is dependent on your personal satisfaction with county tax regulations.

That being said, I do hope you find a way to resolve your issue

[dewilson58]

I certainly don't want to sound cruel or insensitive, but I am a realist. Like you, I am retired, and actually on less than a fixed income since I have no pension and no social security. However:

1) "I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so."

You don't really get the choice of whether or not you WANT to pay your taxes, otherwise no one would.

2) "Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way?"

We are not being treated any different than any other taxpayer

3) We both knew what our taxes were when we purchased our homes, I didn't for a moment think that they would do anything other than go up

4) We both knew that the tax bill, along with any bond, was an annual lump sum payment

5) "Why can't we make partial payments online"

Because Sumter County is a government taxing authority, NOT a finance company

6) Try this argument with the IRS and see how far you get

7) "This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job."

I don't view it as right or wrong, it's simply the way it is, like most places in the country. And I doubt Randy Mask's job is dependent on your personal satisfaction with county tax regulations.

That being said, I do hope you find a way to resolve your issue




Exactly.


I think the original post was just a hit and run.......complain, not looking for a solution.


Considering the RE Taxes are probably ~2% of the home's value, a 1% of the home value should not be the death of anyone.



Most tax bills increased less than 15%, so if the OP's increases 30% it's because of the value of their investment in their home.


I doubt we will hear from the OP.


:ohdear:

[duffersue]

Good morning. Last year when I had my taxes done free at Colony I was told I could get an exemption for low income. I took the required papers to the tax office inside the building where the library is and low and behold I received the discount this time. On my tax bill I now have 3 exemptions. Hope this helps you.

[rjm1cc]

It is probably a matter of knowing about the problem then the cost of redoing the programs to allow for part payments. I would have though any dollar amount could be paid and it would be applied to your account.
But another alternative is to put about 1/12 of the tax money into a saving account when your SS check comes in and then pay you bill in Nov. I assume you do not have an emergency fund so I would start putting a little money in a saving account now for emergencies and then pay your taxes out of the fund in Nov. Mixing the emergency fund and tax fund is not best but a way to get started.

[retiredguy123]

Good morning. Last year when I had my taxes done free at Colony I was told I could get an exemption for low income. I took the required papers to the tax office inside the building where the library is and low and behold I received the discount this time. On my tax bill I now have 3 exemptions. Hope this helps you.
There is a low income exemption, but you need to reapply for it every year to prove that you still qualify.

[EdFNJ]

Unfortunately just because we are "seniors" no one owes us anything. Never could figure out the entitlement for discounts or special treatment just because we are getting old. When I hit 70 no one thanked me for being 70. :D :D

My brother-in-law is a disabled veteran. He pays NO RE TAXES here. HE DESERVES THAT even though he could well afford it because he IS owed something from the country/county or whatever but just because we got old no one owes us anything, that includes a free coffee at Wendy's. :) Personally, I never ASK for a "senior discount." Makes me feel even older and it also bugs me when someone offers me their seat! :D

[tjlee500]

I certainly don't want to sound cruel or insensitive, but I am a realist. Like you, I am retired, and actually on less than a fixed income since I have no pension and no social security. However:

1) "I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so."

You don't really get the choice of whether or not you WANT to pay your taxes, otherwise no one would.

2) "Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way?"

We are not being treated any different than any other taxpayer

3) We both knew what our taxes were when we purchased our homes, I didn't for a moment think that they would do anything other than go up

4) We both knew that the tax bill, along with any bond, was an annual lump sum payment

5) "Why can't we make partial payments online"

Because Sumter County is a government taxing authority, NOT a finance company

6) Try this argument with the IRS and see how far you get

7) "This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job."

I don't view it as right or wrong, it's simply the way it is, like most places in the country. And I doubt Randy Mask's job is dependent on your personal satisfaction with county tax regulations.

That being said, I do hope you find a way to resolve your issue
I have tried this with IRS. I am on an installment plan with them and make partial payments online.

[Hplaw]

:coolsmiley:Unfortunately just because we are "seniors" no one owes us anything. Never could figure out the entitlement for discounts or special treatment just because we are getting old. When I hit 70 no one thanked me for being 70. :D :D

My brother-in-law is a disabled veteran. He pays NO RE TAXES here. HE DESERVES THAT even though he could well afford it because he IS owed something from the country/county or whatever but just because we got old no one owes us anything, that includes a free coffee at Wendy's. :) Personally, I never ASK for a "senior discount." Makes me feel even older and it also bugs me when someone offers me their seat! :D

[Fastskiguy]

There is a low income exemption, but you need to reapply for it every year to prove that you still qualify.

What does it take to get this? How low does your income need to be?

[golfing eagles]

I have tried this with IRS. I am on an installment plan with them and make partial payments online.

Darn, now I really feel like a fool. Paying quarterly estimated tax and final tax bill on time and in full, paying property taxes in full when due. I could have been on the pay as you go plan too.

Actually, I think the bigger question is WHY Sumter County tax is going up---the tax base must be increasing with the expansion of the villages south of 44, I don't know of any massive projects the county is planning. I hope they aren't funding some social programs at the expense of Villagers, does anyone know?

[Fastskiguy]

Actually, I think the bigger question is WHY Sumter County tax is going up---the tax base must be increasing with the expansion of the villages south of 44, I don't know of any massive projects the county is planning. I hope they aren't funding some social programs at the expense of Villagers, does anyone know?

It's gotta be for all of the infrastructure down there....doesn't it? I'm just guessing. Maybe after a year or two the taxes will go down once everything is all paid off ;)

[golfing eagles]

It's gotta be for all of the infrastructure down there....doesn't it? I'm just guessing. Maybe after a year or two the taxes will go down once everything is all paid off ;)

Isn't that what the bond is supposed to pay for?

[dewilson58]

Isn't that what the bond is supposed to pay for?




Not roads.


Bond pays for: Infrastructure includes storm water systems, underground pump stations, water retention areas, curbs, gutters, streetlights, transportation trails, underground piping, etc.

[Alana33]

Do you have a homestead or other exemptions for your property?
If not, you should definitely apply for ones you are eligible to claim.

[OhioBuckeye]

I certainly don't want to sound cruel or insensitive, but I am a realist. Like you, I am retired, and actually on less than a fixed income since I have no pension and no social security. However:

1) "I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so."

You don't really get the choice of whether or not you WANT to pay your taxes, otherwise no one would.

2) "Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way?"

We are not being treated any different than any other taxpayer

3) We both knew what our taxes were when we purchased our homes, I didn't for a moment think that they would do anything other than go up

4) We both knew that the tax bill, along with any bond, was an annual lump sum payment

5) "Why can't we make partial payments online"

Because Sumter County is a government taxing authority, NOT a finance company

6) Try this argument with the IRS and see how far you get

7) "This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job."

I don't view it as right or wrong, it's simply the way it is, like most places in the country. And I doubt Randy Mask's job is dependent on your personal satisfaction with county tax regulations.

That being said, I do hope you find a way to resolve your issue.
I don’t think Randy will lose his job but I do think a lot of us will be pushed out of TV because we can’t afford to live there. Or we’ll have to suck it up go along with it!

[Investment Painting Contractors]

We bought our house 13 yrs ago. even with our tax increase our taxes are still less than 2006. They are also 50% cheaper than our taxes on the same value home in Milwaukee . I guess it's all in the math. Len

[Bogie Shooter]

Darn, now I really feel like a fool. Paying quarterly estimated tax and final tax bill on time and in full, paying property taxes in full when due. I could have been on the pay as you go plan too.

Actually, I think the bigger question is WHY Sumter County tax is going up---the tax base must be increasing with the expansion of the villages south of 44, I don't know of any massive projects the county is planning. I hope they aren't funding some social programs at the expense of Villagers, does anyone know?

Can't believe you missed these couple threads. There are more if you need them.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/2019-tax-bills-out-299368/?highlight=increase
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/lyle-gant-realtor-helping-customers-become-villagers-301/trouble-brewing-villages-paradise-over-fat-tax-hike-299231/?highlight=increase

[OhioBuckeye]

Unfortunately we moved from TV because we wanted to be closer to children, grandchildren & great grandchildren. But where we are now taxes are high but everything else is cheaper. For one thing gas is $2.04 two weeks ago $1.89. But here if your 65 or older your grandfathered in after one year, & taxes never go up. But to be up front with everybody or taxes this year was only $3,3??. Next year we’ll find out what we’re lock into. Also something that helps our property taxes is cable TV & Internet, it’s FREE. That saves me $165. a month!

[bobchap]

Set aside so much money every month to pay property tax and then when the bill comes you will have the money to pay the bill.

[Aces4]

We bought our house 13 yrs ago. even with our tax increase our taxes are still less than 2006. They are also 50% cheaper than our taxes on the same value home in Milwaukee . I guess it's all in the math. Len

That’s like comparing a Lexus to a Yugo, Len. You get far more bang for your dollars in Milwaukee than The Villages after doing an online search. Milwaukee features public transportation, excellent colleges, beautiful Lake Michigan lakefront, fine restaurants that include multicultural cuisine eateries, professional baseball, basketball and hockey teams and a short drive north to Lambeau field. The medical facilities and providers are top notch, fine hotels, beautiful golf courses in and around the city, mixed cultures, art museums, fine theaters, a Riverwalk, great shopping. The list goes on and on but it’s much nicer for it’s tax dollars vs The Villages. One gets what one pays for.

[golfing eagles]

That’s like comparing a Lexus to a Yugo, Len. You get far more bang for your dollars in Milwaukee than The Villages after doing an online search. Milwaukee features public transportation, excellent colleges, beautiful Lake Michigan lakefront, fine restaurants that include multicultural cuisine eateries, professional baseball, basketball and hockey teams and a short drive north to Lambeau field. The medical facilities and providers are top notch, fine hotels, beautiful golf courses in and around the city, mixed cultures, art museums, fine theaters, a Riverwalk, great shopping. The list goes on and on but it’s much nicer for it’s tax dollars vs The Villages. One gets what one pays for.

Snow, ice, cold, more snow, more ice, more cold:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

IMHO, Milwaukee is the Yugo

[Aces4]

Snow, ice, cold, more snow, more ice, more cold:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

IMHO, Milwaukee is the Yugo

Four seasons are beautiful and btw, there there is skiing close by, water and SNOW. True that The Villages can offer some things including unbearable humidity and heat for 6-7 months out of the year, sinkholes and hurricanes but this is a comparison of value for your tax dollars. Just saying, taxes in Florida may be lower but you get what you pay for. Just checked the weather in Milwaukee, no snow and high in the mid forties to 50’s this weekend. Many golf courses are open.

[golfing eagles]

Four seasons are beautiful and btw, there there is skiing close by, water and SNOW. True that The Villages can offer some things including unbearable humidity and heat for 6-7 months out of the year, sinkholes and hurricanes but this is a comparison of value for your tax dollars. Just saying, taxes in Florida may be lower but you get what you pay for. Just checked the weather in Milwaukee, no snow and high in the mid forties to 50’s this weekend. Many golf courses are open.

I take it you live in Milwaukee and not The Villages. If you do live here,-----WHY????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Aces4]

I take it you live in Milwaukee and not The Villages. If you do live here,-----WHY????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Rather personal question, I don’t live in Milwaukee, never have but I was addressing the post presented that stated taxes were cheaper here in Florida. I was attempting to point out that they should be vs what the citizens here get for their money. We also have the luxury of amenity fees, additional maintenance fees, a bond payment and separate garbage pickup fees. Let’s not forget the 7% sales tax on purchases also. Sumter county taxes are not low when one examines the whole ball of wax.

Enjoy the day, their numbers are all getting shorter for all of us.

[golfing eagles]

Rather personal question, I don’t live in Milwaukee, never have but I was addressing the post presented that stated taxes were cheaper here in Florida. I was attempting to point out that they should be vs what the citizens here get for their money. We also have the luxury of amenity fees, additional maintenance fees, a bond payment and separate garbage pickup fees. Let’s not forget the 7% sales tax on purchases also. Sumter county taxes are not low when one examines the whole ball of wax.

Enjoy the day, their numbers are all getting shorter for all of us.

OK, taxes----I lived in central NY
There was no bond, but developers in NY rolled the cost of infrastructure into the home price, so that's a wash. There were no maintenance fees and garbage pick up was included in taxes, but...you had to separate your recyclables and each type was picked up once every 4 weeks, and trash collection was once a week Sales tax was 8%. There were no amenity fees, but then again, no amenities. The nearest "cultural centers" were in Rochester, 60 miles away.
For "all that", I paid over 18K in property taxes. Here, I pay $4600, and my home here is assessed at 200K MORE than my home in NY. Oh, and I forgot, $90 each time it snowed more than 3 inches to plow the driveway---and we averaged 122 inches of snow/year. I'll pass on Milwaukee and stay here:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Aces4]

OK, taxes----I lived in central NY
There was no bond, but developers in NY rolled the cost of infrastructure into the home price, so that's a wash. There were no maintenance fees and garbage pick up was included in taxes, but...you had to separate your recyclables and each type was picked up once every 4 weeks, and trash collection was once a week Sales tax was 8%. There were no amenity fees, but then again, no amenities. The nearest "cultural centers" were in Rochester, 60 miles away.
For "all that", I paid over 18K in property taxes. Here, I pay $4600, and my home here is assessed at 200K MORE than my home in NY. Oh, and I forgot, $90 each time it snowed more than 3 inches to plow the driveway---and we averaged 122 inches of snow/year. I'll pass on Milwaukee and stay here:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I wasn’t suggesting you move out of The Villages anywhere in my discourse. I agree, if you lived in the middle of podunk NY with no services or features to employ/enjoy and the taxes were outrageous, you should have left sooner rather than later. But Len was comparing Milwaukee taxes to The Villages. One has to question why you would live in such a God- forsaken area for so long. :icon_wink: Now if you lived close to New York City, we’d be talking no comparison at all to The Villages. That is one beautiful city.

[Investment Painting Contractors]

That’s like comparing a Lexus to a Yugo, Len. You get far more bang for your dollars in Milwaukee than The Villages after doing an online search. Milwaukee features public transportation, excellent colleges, beautiful Lake Michigan lakefront, fine restaurants that include multicultural cuisine eateries, professional baseball, basketball and hockey teams and a short drive north to Lambeau field. The medical facilities and providers are top notch, fine hotels, beautiful golf courses in and around the city, mixed cultures, art museums, fine theaters, a Riverwalk, great shopping. The list goes on and on but it’s much nicer for it’s tax dollars vs The Villages. One gets what one pays for. Since I'm retired ang graduated from college over 50 yrs ago, never used public transportation,Lambeau Field was over 2 hrs away that doesn't affect me. Since I lived there I really didn't need the hotels. We have golf all over Florida a lot cheaper and a longer playing season.There are over 12 community, regional,dinner, and professional theaters within a short driving distance of the Villages. We are retired and travel a lot we take the Cruise Connection to the ports,the shuttle to the airport. We are a 2hr drive to St Augustine which has an excellent hotel the Bayfront great places to eat and the Limelight Theater. We are 2 hours from the gulf of Mexico we stay in Dunedin at the Best Western at the Yacht Club, Crab Claws at Frenchie's and a play at the Francis Wilson Theater. I think you get the Idea. On the Tax money and air fare we save, we go to Milwaukee for a couple of weeks (In the SUMMER) we hit the museums & the zoo. Then we spend a few days in Chicago at the Kempton Burnham Hotel downtown no car needed. We hit all the museums, hit some theater and eat our fill. Plus the hotels here during the off season are cheaper than Milwaukee. I always thought that's what retirement was supposed to be. The trouble is most people don't leave the Villages. WE DO Len

[Investment Painting Contractors]

Rather personal question, I don’t live in Milwaukee, never have but I was addressing the post presented that stated taxes were cheaper here in Florida. I was attempting to point out that they should be vs what the citizens here get for their money. We also have the luxury of amenity fees, additional maintenance fees, a bond payment and separate garbage pickup fees. Let’s not forget the 7% sales tax on purchases also. Sumter county taxes are not low when one examines the whole ball of wax.

Enjoy the day, their numbers are all getting shorter for all of us.
How about 7% state tax. On my income Higher utility bills.

[retiredguy123]

What does it take to get this? How low does your income need to be?
Here is the information. The income limit is established each year, but I don't think it has yet been set for 2020. It was about 30K in 2019. Also, I think all 3 counties in The Villages allow the low income exemption.

Local Option Homestead for Persons 65 and Older (Section 196.075 (4)(d), F.S.)
Some city or county governments have enacted a local ordinance allowing an added homestead exemption up to $50,000.

To qualify you must:

Be 65 or older Submit a statement of income (Form DR-501SC) and meet the income limit Have legal or equitable title to a home you make your permanent residence The household income limit is adjusted each year on January 1, according to changes in the consumer price index (CPI). It compares the prior year cost-of-living with the year before.

[Aces4]

How about 7% state tax. On my income Higher utility bills.

Utilities bills can probably be equalized by the garbage fees here. Yes, I agree that we can travel distances here to enjoy different things but given lots of car travel, wouldn’t there also be attractions and cities around Milwaukee that add even more to the list?

The premise here is value for tax dollars. The city you cite, Milwaukee, has much more to offer and value than Sumter county. Therefore, the tax discrepancy. This conversation is not about choosing where one wants to live. It’s about value for tax dollars paid and services for those dollars. Again, one must consider all the extra charges along with the Sumter County tax bill.

[Investment Painting Contractors]

[QUOTE=Aces4;1703700]Utilities bills can probably be equalized by the garbage fees here. Yes, I agree that we can travel distances here to enjoy different things but given lots of car travel, wouldn’t there also be attractions and cities around Milwaukee that add even more to the list?

The premise here is value for tax dollars. The city you cite, Milwaukee, has much more to offer and value than Sumter county. Therefore, the tax discrepancy. This conversation is not about choosing where one wants to live. It’s about value for tax dollars paid and services for those dollars. Again, one must consider all the extra charges along with the Sumter County tax bill]
Our garbage fees were higher, our water bill about the same. There is no value to something unless you use it IE transportation etc. The amount of money you spend on quality of life counts to me. Evidently you're not happy here, or don't use the clubhouses, swimming pools, exercise classes, enjoy the flowers, clean streets, low crime, no snow removal fees, landscaping fees less than 50% what I Paid up North. The amenity's fees are more than fair. I loved Milwaukee it was good for me and business. But I would never make an arbitrary statement about a city and its cost with no first hand knowledge of the city. We all know the Internet is always right.

[Aces4]

[QUOTE=Aces4;1703700]Utilities bills can probably be equalized by the garbage fees here. Yes, I agree that we can travel distances here to enjoy different things but given lots of car travel, wouldn’t there also be attractions and cities around Milwaukee that add even more to the list?

The premise here is value for tax dollars. The city you cite, Milwaukee, has much more to offer and value than Sumter county. Therefore, the tax discrepancy. This conversation is not about choosing where one wants to live. It’s about value for tax dollars paid and services for those dollars. Again, one must consider all the extra charges along with the Sumter County tax bill]
Our garbage fees were higher, our water bill about the same. There is no value to something unless you use it IE transportation etc. The amount of money you spend on quality of life counts to me. Evidently you're not happy here, or don't use the clubhouses, swimming pools, exercise classes, enjoy the flowers, clean streets, low crime, no snow removal fees, landscaping fees less than 50% what I Paid up North. The amenity's fees are more than fair. I loved Milwaukee it was good for me and business. But I would never make an arbitrary statement about a city and its cost with no first hand knowledge of the city. We all know the Internet is always right.

This discussion was about value for tax dollars. All that is being advised is tax dollars for that city are comparable to Sumter County tax bills. If Sumter County offered the same features as Milwaukee, our tax bills would be that much higher. This has NOTHING to do with where we live and is not knocking The Villages. It is a tax comparison. And you’re right, I don’t use all of the amenities here just like I wouldn’t in Milwaukee if I lived there. I can’t find the major sport complexes and teams or the museums or the public transportation, etc. here. Therefore, the tax level is lower here, that is the only point of this discussion.

[Investment Painting Contractors]

You Win I Give Up I have other things to do today. Enjoy the Villages. Len

[Aces4]

You Win I Give Up I have other things to do today. Enjoy the Villages. Len

You too and I have to give a big thumbs up to your company, they did a beautiful, major paint job for us here. We highly recommend Investment Painting.

[Bogie Shooter]

Now my head hurts from reading these poste.:ohdear:

[Aces4]

Now my head hurts from reading these poste.:ohdear:

I prescribe a round of golf and a cocktail afterward and you’ll feel much better:ho:

[golfing eagles]

I prescribe a round of golf and a cocktail afterward and you’ll feel much better:ho:

Agreed:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Dave2000]

Sounds like you don't have a mortgage that has an escrow account to pay your taxes and other things like insurance, so its up to you to put money aside each month to pay it yourself. Even on a lamented income you got budget for it.

[Sailr303]

Since you seem to have come from NY then you never got to pay 2019 taxes in 2020. They would have been paid each quarter until they were complete by the middle of 2019. I thank that Florida is pretty generous in letting us pay at the end of the year rather than the beginning.

[Villagesgal]

If you truly are low income the county offers you an additional exemption, but you have to apply for it.

[Villageswimmer]

I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so. I got my tax bill for Nov. and realised I could not afford a lump sum payment. I am a senion on a fixed income. I called Randy Mask line and was told I should have filled out a payment form which I did not know about. I have since filled it out for 2020. I was also told I could submit a form to pay current taxes over 5 months - Nov. to March and did that. I sent in a check for as much as I could afford. I went online this week to make a payment and there was NO option to put in an amount, just full payment.



I called and explained my issue, was put on hold for a while and was told, yes, I would be charged FULL amount online.

Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way? Why can't we make partial payments online if we have an agreement? This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job. Giving the option to make an agreed upon partial payment hurts nobody but makes it easier for seniors to pay their taxes.


This is the OP’s post. The thread has veered off on tangents.

One needs to expect to pay taxes. And we all know taxes almost always go up. At this stage of life, we should all be aware of this. The tax bill should be no surprise.

A responsible person takes taxes into account when making a decision on what home (price range) to buy. I’m tired of folks playing the victim.

BTW, you’ll get another tax bill next year.

[Toymeister]

This is the OP’s post. The thread has veered off on tangents.
The question was answered in posts five and nine on the first page.

[golfing eagles]

This is the OP’s post. The thread has veered off on tangents.

One needs to expect to pay taxes. And we all know taxes almost always go up. At this stage of life, we should all be aware of this. The tax bill should be no surprise.

A responsible person takes taxes into account when making a decision on what home (price range) to buy. I’m tired of folks playing the victim.

BTW, you’ll get another tax bill next year.

Thank you for putting that relatively bluntly, I was trying to be delicate and tactful.
There's an old saying---"Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine"
A lot of posters on TOTV whine and complain about decisions that were strictly theirs and theirs alone.

[Fastskiguy]

Isn't that what the bond is supposed to pay for?

Well there is "villages infrastructure" and "county infrastructure" so maybe the bond just does the villages part? I could be totally wrong LOL.

$30K or whatever per house plus the big bump in property tax = a whopping big pile of money. I call for paving the roads in gold.

Joe

[dewilson58]

Well there is "villages infrastructure" and "county infrastructure" so maybe the bond just does the villages part? I could be totally wrong LOL.

$30K or whatever per house plus the big bump in property tax = a whopping big pile of money. I call for paving the roads in gold.

Joe




What is the Bond Debt Assessment for?
The bond debt assessment reflects each lot’s proportionate share of the cost of building the infrastructure within its District or for which its District has responsibility. It is the most equitable method of distributing costs between the properties that benefit from the infrastructure. Infrastructure includes storm water systems, underground pump stations, water retention areas, curbs, gutters, streetlights, transportation trails, underground piping, etc.

[Fastskiguy]

What is the Bond Debt Assessment for?
The bond debt assessment reflects each lot’s proportionate share of the cost of building the infrastructure within its District or for which its District has responsibility. It is the most equitable method of distributing costs between the properties that benefit from the infrastructure. Infrastructure includes storm water systems, underground pump stations, water retention areas, curbs, gutters, streetlights, transportation trails, underground piping, etc.

Does that include stuff like all of the work on 468/Warm Spring or is the bond only for stuff within the "actual villages" (rec centers, squares, anywhere behind a gate)?

[dewilson58]

Does that include stuff like all of the work on 468/Warm Spring or is the bond only for stuff within the "actual villages" (rec centers, squares, anywhere behind a gate)?




The CDD will have the details for you. Very nice people there.

[Marathon Man]

Does that include stuff like all of the work on 468/Warm Spring or is the bond only for stuff within the "actual villages" (rec centers, squares, anywhere behind a gate)?

Keep in mind that this is a place for discussion. For accurate information, you need to seek out the proper source. There is lots of information available about our community. Take some time and do some browsing. Lots to learn. Also, I highly recommend CDD Orientation and Resident Acadamy.

TheVillages.net - Login - Email, tee-times, computer support - serving The Villages, Florida and the Tri-county area. (https://www.thevillages.net/)

Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/)

[EdFNJ]

What does it take to get this? How low does your income need to be?
Under $30,174 AGI for 2019 Taxes gets you did
discount" on your 2020 Tax Bill. Must be filed before March of 2020 IIRC. You must be full time resident with Homestead exemption.

• An exemption not exceeding $50,000 to any person who has the legal or equitable title to real estate, maintains permanent residence on the property, is 65 or older, and whose household income does not exceed the household income limitation (of $30,174 for 2019 taxes); or

and this one which won't apply to here yet:

• An exemption equal to the assessed value of the property to an owner who has title to real estate in Florida with a just value less than $250,000, as determined in the first tax year that the owner applies and is eligible for the exemption, and who has maintained permanent residence on the property for at least 25 years, is 65 or older, and whose household income does not exceed the household income limitation.
Senior Homestead

[Fastskiguy]

Under $30,174 AGI for 2019 Taxes gets you did
discount" on your 2020 Tax Bill.

~$30K is more than I thought, thanks :)

[Goldwingnut]

Does that include stuff like all of the work on 468/Warm Spring or is the bond only for stuff within the "actual villages" (rec centers, squares, anywhere behind a gate)?

The bond only covers the infrastructure within the CDD property boundaries that was built to support the communities within.

The rec centers, golf courses, and other amenities are not included in the bond, these are actually private property owned by the development company but operated by the recreation department or property management. South of CR44 the amenity fee is actually paid to the developer who then pays the various District departments the appropriate amounts for the operating and maintenance costs. This is all transparent to the residents.

The costs for the work on the various county roads (468, etc.) is the responsibility of the county and/or state to pay for and manage based on the growth that they approve. The new roads being built like Reagan Rd, Marsh Bend Trail, Fenney Way, etc. are included in the residential bond amount but the existing county roads are not and should not be. These county road improvements are supposed to be covered by the impact fees that are charged and collected with the sale of each home. Why the county managers cannot adequately manage their revenues and budgets for the growth they are approving is a mystery or possibly incompetent, none of this growth was a surprise, they approved it all a year ago. Sorry jumped off the deep end again on this one.

This video explains the bonds:
The Villages 5-30-19 Construction update and Bond information - YouTube (https://youtu.be/nGwf7AcmyEI)

This video explains the maintenance assessment:
The Villages 6-19-19 Construction Update and Maintenance Assessment discussion. - YouTube (https://youtu.be/Ufm_ycOnbto)

[jacksonbrown]

"Why the county managers cannot adequately manage their revenues and budgets for the growth they are approving is a mystery or possibly incompetent, none of this growth was a surprise, they approved it all a year ago. "

EXACTLY!

Vote 'em out.

[dewilson58]

"Why the county managers cannot adequately manage their revenues and budgets for the growth they are approving is a mystery or possibly incompetent, none of this growth was a surprise, they approved it all a year ago. "

EXACTLY!

Vote 'em out.




Actually it was a surprise.



The Developer was done, they opened a remodeling center to keep contractors busy. There was nothing public that TV was jumping over the highway.

[Topspinmo]

It's gotta be for all of the infrastructure down there....doesn't it? I'm just guessing. Maybe after a year or two the taxes will go down once everything is all paid off ;)

Taxes going down! LOL:1rotfl:

[Barefoot]

I want to pay my taxes even if they have gone up 30% or so. I got my tax bill for Nov. and realised I could not afford a lump sum payment. I am a senion on a fixed income. I called Randy Mask line and was told I should have filled out a payment form which I did not know about. I have since filled it out for 2020. I was also told I could submit a form to pay current taxes over 5 months - Nov. to March and did that. I sent in a check for as much as I could afford. I went online this week to make a payment and there was NO option to put in an amount, just full payment.
I called and explained my issue, was put on hold for a while and was told, yes, I would be charged FULL amount online.
Why are seniors like you and me being treated this way? Why can't we make partial payments online if we have an agreement? This is so wrong and Randy needs to fix this if he wants to keep his job. Giving the option to make an agreed upon partial payment hurts nobody but makes it easier for seniors to pay their taxes.

Taxes and property values are high in The Villages.
Not that you should have to move, and we would hate to lose a senior just because she is on a fixed income.
But have you considered moving out of TV?

[Topspinmo]

Well there is "villages infrastructure" and "county infrastructure" so maybe the bond just does the villages part? I could be totally wrong LOL.

$30K or whatever per house plus the big bump in property tax = a whopping big pile of money. I call for paving the roads in gold.

Joe

Yellow bricks.:coolsmiley:

[Advogado]

In response to the 25% Sumter County tax increase, enacted to pay for the Developer’s infrastructure while protecting his sweetheart impact fee, a political action committee has been formed with the purpose of cleaning up the Sumter County Commission. The PAC is called Fair Government for Sumter.

Learn more about the PAC at Fair Government For Sumter (http://www.FG4S.org)