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manaboutown
12-28-2019, 01:53 PM
I found this appalling. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/12/17/what-does-your-car-know-about-you-we-hacked-chevy-find-out/

Bay Kid
12-29-2019, 08:30 AM
Most of us never give this a second thought. An older car might the way to go if you want privacy..

jacksonbrown
12-29-2019, 08:39 AM
And yet, the same folks don't realize that...

Amazon and Google are listening to your voice recordings. Here's what we know about that.

Amazon and Google are listening to your voice recordings. Here's what we know about that - CNET (https://www.cnet.com/how-to/amazon-and-google-are-listening-to-your-voice-recordings-heres-what-we-know/)

We techies make the joke about an Amazon employee calling your local PD. They assumed that all the noise coming from the bedroom......

Topspinmo
12-29-2019, 08:59 AM
Eventually it will be used for law enforcement (you own car will seen information and automatically ticket will be seen to you, ( especially when the day comes we can’t own personal vehicle 🚗, but only lease them) and insurance increases or cancellations. Alstate already spying on you’re driving habitat with there drive safe bonus program. The real information they are collecting is how bad driver you are so they can adjust you’re rates or cancel.

dewilson58
12-29-2019, 09:10 AM
Nothing appalling.

eyc234
12-29-2019, 09:16 AM
It is a simple fix, Disconnect!!! I get up a turn on my own music, look up information I need, have no cameras that can get hacked and put nothing on the cloud. Only thing in my car that is on is my separate plug in GPS.

blueash
12-29-2019, 10:04 AM
With all the data the car is retaining, why is it not standard procedure for police to access and retain the data in accident investigations?
You would see speed, braking, and cell phone use at a minimum on modern cars with android or apple auto systems.
It would be obvious who was speeding, or never hit the brakes, or was on the phone at the time of the crash. As long as the car is collecting the data, derive some societal benefit. But no, the cop can't pull you over for a broken tail light and then access your data to see if you also were speeding.

manaboutown
12-29-2019, 11:09 AM
What troubles me most is a newer vehicle's computer can download private records and even photos from one's cell phone as I drive a 2017 vehicle and use the bluetooth hands-off speaker feature when driving. I use a phone battery charger which plugs into the cigarette lighter receptacle rather than a vehicle's USB port although I recently had to use the port on a rental car as the lighter receptacle was not functional; it may have been disconnected to discourage smoking in a nonsmoking rental. Are my phone records now stored in the rental's computers?

Furthermore, driving information is sent to the manufacturer and possibly one's insurance carrier. Big Brother is watching and recording our every move.

billethkid
12-29-2019, 11:16 AM
for those of us who are not doing anything wrong, intentionally,
there is nothing to fear.

Given the millions and millions of vehicles on the road, any info access would be by exception.

in my humble opinion.

ColdNoMore
12-29-2019, 11:29 AM
We are long past needing to even worry about how much info "Big Brother" is collecting on us, so just accept that it is happening...and is voluminous on us all. :shrug:

The "Precrime" unit as described in Minority Report is probably closer to becoming reality than we think, so as the Christmas song says..."just be good for goodness' sake." :D

Barefoot
12-29-2019, 11:48 AM
for those of us who are not doing anything wrong, intentionally, there is nothing to fear.
Given the millions and millions of vehicles on the road, any info access would be by exception. :agree:

Barefoot
12-29-2019, 11:56 AM
Furthermore, driving information is sent to the manufacturer and possibly one's insurance carrier.
I don't think you should worry about it if you're a good driver. :shrug:

dewilson58
12-29-2019, 12:12 PM
And the Popsicle Stick has my DNA on it when I throw it away.

Barefoot
12-29-2019, 12:17 PM
And the Popsicle Stick has my DNA on it when I throw it away. :1rotfl:

Topspinmo
12-29-2019, 07:31 PM
With all the data the car is retaining, why is it not standard procedure for police to access and retain the data in accident investigations?
You would see speed, braking, and cell phone use at a minimum on modern cars with android or apple auto systems.
It would be obvious who was speeding, or never hit the brakes, or was on the phone at the time of the crash. As long as the car is collecting the data, derive some societal benefit. But no, the cop can't pull you over for a broken tail light and then access your data to see if you also were speeding.
They know if you was on cell phone.

Topspinmo
12-29-2019, 07:38 PM
And the Popsicle Stick has my DNA on it when I throw it away.


And I thought Neanderthal’s was extinct???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::shocked: it-was-a-joke!:a040:

NotGolfer
12-29-2019, 11:14 PM
AI is a fact and will become more and more so with time.

Mikee1
12-30-2019, 06:56 AM
Well, folks this started in the early 80s. Your car's computer stores most driving data, speed, braking, etc, etc. This is not new, however the amount of data logging increases with cell phones, gps units, etc, etc.

OhioBuckeye
12-30-2019, 09:29 AM
Can’t believe nothing is private anymore! I don’t want to know what my car knows about me. Just be careful what you say or do in your car & there’s no problem!

Barefoot
12-30-2019, 05:50 PM
I don’t want to know what my car knows about me. Just be careful what you say or do in your car and there’s no problem!:agree:

OnInTwo
12-31-2019, 08:31 AM
Does anyone have a technical knowledge as to how the car manufacturers are sending the data? They must have some sort of OTA (over the air) transmit and receive capability embedded in the car. Example: OnStar and BlueLink. How does one go about disabling this?

From a legal view I find it interesting that we purchase the car and own it but the manufacturer retains the right to own the data we create using the car. Does this strike anyone as wrong?