Why are the elderly so angry

[MorTech]

Very good "Anger and the Elderly" article...It ain't just about Trump :) Make sure you get enough Folic Acid...And especially women who are pregnant.

The Angry Grandma - LewRockwell (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/bill-sardi/the-angry-grandma/)

[jacksonbrown]

That article is frightening.

Particularly...

"Forget that Dr. McCully had found the narrowing of arteries in carotid (neck) arteries that facilitate delivery of oxygen to the brain are narrowed (called carotid artery stenosis) due to elevated homocysteine. The higher the blood serum levels of homocysteine the greater the risk for narrowing of carotid (neck) arteries. Elevated homocysteine is a result of a deficiency of vitamins B6, B12, B9 (folate or folic acid) and betaine."

And, it's not just elevated homocysteine.

Low blood ox Low blood ox at DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Low+blood+ox&t=ffnt&ia=web) has a direct effect on how our brain functions.

Even if you have never smoked, environmental factors, second-hand smoke and industrial pollutants affects your quality of life.

[Inexes@aol.com]

Very interesting article. It bears reading and attention by those who read it. My husband recently suffered a stroke. A non-smoker, maybe a cocktail (1) before dinner, very low cholesterol levels and controlled BP. No other medical problems. Was taken to the Comprehensive Stroke Center at Ocala Regional Hospital and treated by the physician who started the center. An exceptional neuro interventionalist. It was determined that his homocystine level was very high and B12 level exremely low. And this is believed to be the cause of the stroke. Just as this article says, due to clumping of the cells. He is recovering presently but has to take Folic acid and Bis sublingual daily. I am an RN and had never heard of this prior to his experience. Everyone needs to read this article

[New Adventures]

So who said that "all the elderly are angry"? I seem to be missing something here.

[MorTech]

Inexes@aol.com - I am SO SORRY to hear about your husband. Low stroke risk factors and then this happens...I am so sorry. We should all probably add more beef liver and eggs to our diet!

[MorTech]

Don't be frightened by this article. If you stick to a proper human diet of meat(especially beef, shrimp, lobster, tuna, salmon, sardines), eggs, aged cheese, no-salt butter, cream, tree nuts, green leaf veggies then supplements usually won't be necessary. Stay away from carbohydrates like sugar, fruit, bread, pasta, potatoes, and rice. if you want to sweeten something, use the tiny Splenda tablets you can get from Amazon. The age-old con "an apple a day keeps the Doctor away" is still with us...it should be "an apple a day keeps Doctors (aka, AMA Stooges) in vacation homes and yachts".

I only supplement vitamin C and D along with Magnesium that helps speed up the body healing process as we age. D also helps with calcium uptake.

Low blood oxygen is usually caused by obesity and couch-potato-itis. Stay away from carbohydrates and get Aerobic activity...Increasing the heart rate exercises...combined with deep breathing exercises multiple time a day will solve this along with any sleep problems as well - especially as we age. A rowing machine and even a sauna are excellent. "Walking" won't bring your heart rate up enough.

[MorTech]

So who said that "all the elderly are angry"? I seem to be missing something here.

Yes, you are..."All".

[HelenLCSW]

Very good "Anger and the Elderly" article...It ain't just about Trump :) Make sure you get enough Folic Acid...And especially women who are pregnant.

The Angry Grandma - LewRockwell (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/bill-sardi/the-angry-grandma/)

HaHa —pregnancy is not a big thing in The Villages

[Carla B]

I saw a neurologist for various issues. After some blood tests I received a letter advising that my homocysteine level was in the high/high normal range. It stated that "Homocysteine is a metabolite; an amino acid-like chemical which is felt to be quite toxic to the brain. Elevated levels place you at an increased risk for stroke and possibly Alzheimer's disease."

Fortunately, it can be fairly easy to correct by taking B vitamins and folic acid. They advised a sublingual melt or liquid B-complex each morning (OTC).

[Two Bills]

Too many people read these reports, and start swallowing hanfulls of Vits. etc, without any diagnosis of a problem
To many vits. can be just as bad as none at all.
If you have a problem, get it diagnosed, then medicate under advice.
Self medication is dangerous.

[Velvet]

Aha, now if people grumble at something I post I can just say, “You haven’t taken your folic acid pill yet today? Have you.” ;)

[manaboutown]

In the mid 1960s when I was young and just out of college I took a government job in D.C. where I kept running into an older man who had come back to work for the government after his business of many years failed. He was always cheerful, and not artificially so. He said hello with a big smile on his face every time I ran into him. After some time I asked him why he was inevitably so cheerful. What he told me was that when he was young he noticed there were two kinds of older folks, grouches and cheerful ones, and that he had decided to age into a cheerful one. IMHO he was correct. Over the years I have noticed my friends and acquaintances however they were tilted, from grouchy to happy, seem to have migrated further along the direction they initially took. Not many are in the middle.

My colleague was following the admonishment of Abraham Lincoln. “Folks are usually about as happy as they make their minds up to be.”

I have always tried to look at the bright side of things, no matter what I or my loved ones were facing, without ignoring the dark side. Through the bleak years from 2008 to 2016 it was barely possible to hang on to a positive outlook but since then I have felt as grateful and happy as I have ever felt in my life.

Our attitudes can change our brain chemistry and our body's state of health. Stress kills. Oncologists try to keep cancer patients as positive as possible. Of course if one does not eat well, exercise and so on over time one's state of health will inevitably pay the price.

All that being said an aging body and mind over time may require nutritional supplementation and possibly medication to function well, all under a doctor's supervision, of course.

[MorTech]

HaHa —pregnancy is not a big thing in The Villages

Yeah, I was kinda trolling with that one :) But I do assume most Villagers have grandchildren.

[MorTech]

I saw a neurologist for various issues. After some blood tests I received a letter advising that my homocysteine level was in the high/high normal range. It stated that "Homocysteine is a metabolite; an amino acid-like chemical which is felt to be quite toxic to the brain. Elevated levels place you at an increased risk for stroke and possibly Alzheimer's disease."

Fortunately, it can be fairly easy to correct by taking B vitamins and folic acid. They advised a sublingual melt or liquid B-complex each morning (OTC).

Did you find yourself to be easily angered before your Folic Acid treatment?

[MorTech]

Too many people read these reports, and start swallowing hanfulls of Vits. etc, without any diagnosis of a problem
To many vits. can be just as bad as none at all.
If you have a problem, get it diagnosed, then medicate under advice.
Self medication is dangerous.

Agreed! But "Doctor" prescribed drugs can have nasty side effects, as well. I personally would not take any multivitamin but I do supplement C, D, and Magnesium because they do have beneficial healing properties as we age.

[MorTech]

“Folks are usually about as happy as they make their minds up to be.”

That quote should be written on the walls at Coleman prison :)

[MorTech]

"Our attitudes can change our brain chemistry and our body's state of health."

Yes! Just changing your mind about anything (especially studying Physics :)) can rewire your brain...But Neuroplasticity slows as we age. Eat more beef, liver, eggs, and shrimp and less bread, potatoes, pizza, pasta, and fruit...And for "goodness sake", stay away from Christmas cookies :)

[MorTech]

Aha, now if people grumble at something I post I can just say, “You haven’t taken your folic acid pill yet today? Have you.” ;)

Yes! Please Do! That just might help them! :)

...And when someone screams at you from their golf cart, instead of yelling back "Take a Chill Pill" or "Kill Yourself" you might try "Take a Folic Acid Pill". :)

[Carla B]

Did you find yourself to be easily angered before your Folic Acid treatment?

No. No anger issues at all, either before or after. Have taken folic acid for 25+ years. The new medication is Vit B complex. Both were prescribed by doctors for separate conditions.

[PennBF]

This is really timely. I had about 4 episode's of minor TIA's and was seen by a series of Dr.'s and almost all but 2 said it was because of a "clot". A wonderful Neurologist who was doing some consulting work at the Village Hospital from the Cleveland Clinic, which is one of the very top Clinic's in the world on hearts talked to me as I was at the end of my teists and there were loads of them. She said I did not have a clot but rather my episodes were the result of age and very low levels of Vitamin B12. Of course I ran to the internet to see what the heck this B12 was all about. It totally confirmed the episodes I had experienced mapped right along with expected results if you were very low on B12. One of the advantages of having a TOTV's is being able to share for others our experiences. Regarding the Village Hospital. I spent 5 days in the hospital 3 one and 2 the other and went through the ER by ambulance so I had the advantage of seeing it in both the ER and Regular Floors. It demonstrated the Nurses, and Aides were well qualified and it was excellent care. BUT the tools to do their job's are sadly lacking. Their computers are lousy along with the software, some of the "hand medical" equipment failed on a regular basis, things like pillows, etc are scarce and hard to find and it generally failed from a basic "management" standpoint. You have to give the staff credit as it is clear they take great pride in their work and have to overcome some hurdles to provide the fine support for their patients. Rating wise I would give them a 5 for support and care and 1 for management. :popcorn:

[Inexes@aol.com]

Don't be frightened by this article. If you stick to a proper human diet of meat(especially beef, shrimp, lobster, tuna, salmon, sardines), eggs, aged cheese, no-salt butter, cream, tree nuts, green leaf veggies then supplements usually won't be necessary. Stay away from carbohydrates like sugar, fruit, bread, pasta, potatoes, and rice. if you want to sweeten something, use the tiny Splenda tablets you can get from Amazon. The age-old con "an apple a day keeps the Doctor away" is still with us...it should be "an apple a day keeps Doctors (aka, AMA Stooges) in vacation homes and yachts".

I only supplement vitamin C and D along with Magnesium that helps speed up the body healing process as we age. D also helps with calcium uptake.

Low blood oxygen is usually caused by obesity and couch-potato-itis. Stay away from carbohydrates and get Aerobic activity...Increasing the heart rate exercises...combined with deep breathing exercises multiple time a day will solve this along with any sleep problems as well - especially as we age. A rowing machine and even a sauna are excellent. "Walking" won't bring your heart rate up enough.

DO BE ALARMED BY THIS STORY..... MY husband did all of the above. It was explained to me that as people age their bodies do not absorb the nutrients from the food and in many instances, supplements are necessary. As the saying goes, “ please don’t confuse your google search with my medical degree”

[golfing eagles]

DO BE ALARMED BY THIS STORY..... MY husband did all of the above. It was explained to me that as people age their bodies do not absorb the nutrients from the food and in many instances, supplements are necessary. As the saying goes, “ please don’t confuse your google search with my medical degree”

Thank you for saving me the trouble of pointing that out. In return, I'll spare everyone my opinion of this thread:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

Agreed! But "Doctor" prescribed drugs can have nasty side effects, as well. I personally would not take any multivitamin but I do supplement C, D, and Magnesium because they do have beneficial healing properties as we age.

But how do you know you have a deficiency in those supplements without tests?
C is fine, the body soon lets you know if you are taking too much of that!
But the body retains what it cannot absorb of most other supplements, and that is when they become a problem, and not a benefit.
Overloads of some attack vital organs like kidneys, liver etc.
A balanced diet should take care of most peoples needs regarding vitamin intake.
I cannot understand why people need to supplement, if they have not had a relevant test to find out they have a need.
JMO.

[tophcfa]

Because they are running out of time

[MorTech]

Hence the qualifier "Usually". If proper dietary and lifestyle adjustments are not correcting any deficiencies, then supplementing is critical. I would hope everyone here is having annual blood work done and has a competent, reasoning, and ethical Doctor. My own blood work reveals no deficiencies but I have determined that C, D, Mg supplements are beneficial as we age. After this thread, I am going to start eating beef liver again.

Good luck to you all.

[manaboutown]

A very dear long time friend of mine suddenly passed away at age 67 a little over two years ago while taking an afternoon nap. It was quite a shock as she was very active and apparently physically and mentally healthy. An autopsy was conducted to determine the cause of death. She had suffered no heart attack or stroke; it was quite mysterious. Many samples were taken and sent away for laboratory analysis. It turned out she had so much potassium in her blood it had stopped her heart. She was keen on supplements and thought she had enough medical knowledge to self prescribe as she had been a veterinarian's assistant at one time. That was a deadly misjudgment.

I knew that potassium has been used in lethal injections to stop a subject's heart but I was shocked that potassium taken orally as a supplement could stop a heart. My physician confirmed this fact to me. Medicowesome: Why does heart stop in diastole when plasma potassium level rises? (https://www.medicowesome.com/2013/04/why-does-heart-stop-in-diastole-when.html)

As I lived in Los Alamos, NM at the time I knew or knew of some of the women taking significant amounts of L-tryptophan who suffered the repercussions enumerated in the following links. My former wife had been involved with them and was pushing me to take numerous supplements which I refused to do. The lead woman was a nurse. As a pharmaceutical grade was apparently not approved or unavailable in the USA, she was buying it in large tins from Japan of a purity level used for administration to animals, but not humans. The women were manually loading it into capsules to be taken orally. The results were disastrous. These self prescribing women all thought they knew more than their physicians about supplements.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b543/7f52c611dda0353d1f1e7da74176d4f0b274.pdf

THE DOCTOR'''S WORLD; How Medical Detectives Identified The Culprit Behind a Rare Disorder - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/28/science/doctor-s-world-medical-detectives-identified-culprit-behind-rare-disorder.html)

Evidence Links Japanese Firm to Epidemic in 1989 : Research: A potentially fatal blood and muscle ailment has been tied to impurities in the manufacturer'''s supply of the dietary supplement L-tryptophan. - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-06-13-mn-106-story.html)

[MorTech]

Consumption of Polyunsaturated fats probably have a greater negative effect on physical and mental well-being than carbohydrates. Dr. Micheal Eades has an excellent presentation on this but he shows up in google searches so I suspect that just negates his medical degree.

Dr. Michael Eades - 'A New Hypothesis of Obesity' - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRurLnQ8oo)

Lots of good info on that channel.

[MorTech]

Here is a Doctor who has the ability to reason cause and effect:

Peter Attia: What if we're wrong about diabetes? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMhLBPPtlrY)