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TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 09:51 AM
Been in TV for eight years. Moved in new house on golf course four years ago. Single neighbor has what I think is an Eastern Redbud tree that started to bloom this year. With the warm Winter it has exploded and continues to explode with large purple flowers most of which end up on my lawn when wind is out of the South. I do my on yard work. This tree although beautiful creates a mess on her lawn and on mine. I have enough experience regarding lawns to know that if the blooms are not removed it will cause rot and possible fungus on both lawns. She already has signs of mole crickets on her lawn. I take pride in my lawn. How should I deal with this. She gets mad if I say anything. Are there TV guidelines to deal with this.
Two Bills
01-04-2020, 10:06 AM
IMO. If the lady does not wish to cooperate, there is very little you can do. Just take care of your own area.
Suppose you could offer to clear her area if you were so disposed.
The offer may make her more ameanable to suggestions about MC control.
As for the mole crickets, just try to make your area as unpalletable to them as you can.
A little bit of 'overspray' when treating yours could help provide a barrier!
bagboy
01-04-2020, 10:18 AM
Been in TV for eight years. Moved in new house on golf course four years ago. Single neighbor has what I think is an Eastern Redbud tree that started to bloom this year. With the warm Winter it has exploded and continues to explode with large purple flowers most of which end up on my lawn when wind is out of the South. I do my on yard work. This tree although beautiful creates a mess on her lawn and on mine. I have enough experience regarding lawns to know that if the blooms are not removed it will cause rot and possible fungus on both lawns. She already has signs of mole crickets on her lawn. I take pride in my lawn. How should I deal with this. She gets mad if I say anything. Are there TV guidelines to deal with this.
Use your blower to return the buds to her lawn. Buy CrossXcheck or a similar mole cricket treatment from Home Depot or Lowes.
Aw Man
01-04-2020, 10:29 AM
Been in TV for eight years. Moved in new house on golf course four years ago. Single neighbor has what I think is an Eastern Redbud tree that started to bloom this year. With the warm Winter it has exploded and continues to explode with large purple flowers most of which end up on my lawn when wind is out of the South. I do my on yard work. This tree although beautiful creates a mess on her lawn and on mine. I have enough experience regarding lawns to know that if the blooms are not removed it will cause rot and possible fungus on both lawns. She already has signs of mole crickets on her lawn. I take pride in my lawn. How should I deal with this. She gets mad if I say anything. Are there TV guidelines to deal with this.
TV guidelines for landscaping are that the landscaping plans must be submitted for approval by the Architectural Review Committee.
You can contact ARC to determine if she got such approval and you can review the approved plans to see if the offending tree was actually included as part of the approved plan/submittal.
If she did get approval, I think you are stuck.
If she didn’t get ARC approval, or if the tree was not included in approved plans) you could use this information as leverage in further discussions with her about the offending tree (ARC in response to a complaint could possibly demand that all non-approved landscaping be removed).
(Hopefully you received ARC approval for any landscaping work you have done, or this complaint approach could bite back)
If it were me, I’d approach her with an offer to pay all costs for removal and replacement of the tree with a new plant or tree that we would find mutually acceptable.
VIN574
01-04-2020, 10:43 AM
I have a similar predicament as you.
Our neighbor has an oak tree near our property line. The acorns and leaves cover our yard and patio inches deep. When they fall, I have to clean them daily in order to enjoy our property. We made calls to the Villages offices and local landscapers (tree experts). We found out that if our neighbors were in compliance with standards and were unwilling to remedy the situation in our favor, the only thing we could do was trim whatever branches leaned over our property line.
Unfortunately, Steve may be brash, but he is correct. There isn't much you can do about it unless your neighbor wants to mitigate your dilemma. Our neighbors responded positively to our concerns by trimming the tree. BTW... It also worked for them, as they had less to clean up also.
Best
karostay
01-04-2020, 10:48 AM
Been in TV for eight years. Moved in new house on golf course four years ago. Single neighbor has what I think is an Eastern Redbud tree that started to bloom this year. With the warm Winter it has exploded and continues to explode with large purple flowers most of which end up on my lawn when wind is out of the South. I do my on yard work. This tree although beautiful creates a mess on her lawn and on mine. I have enough experience regarding lawns to know that if the blooms are not removed it will cause rot and possible fungus on both lawns. She already has signs of mole crickets on her lawn. I take pride in my lawn. How should I deal with this. She gets mad if I say anything. Are there TV guidelines to deal with this.
No one is disregarding any rules covenants or deed restrictions
best options offer to replace the tree live with it or move
Life to short to worry about a few events that are controlled only by mother nature
TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 10:56 AM
TV guidelines for landscaping are that the landscaping plans must be submitted for approval by the Architectural Review Committee.
You can contact ARC to determine if she got such approval and you can review the approved plans to see if the offending tree was actually included as part of the approved plan/submittal.
If she did get approval, I think you are stuck.
If she didn’t get ARC approval, or if the tree was not included in approved plans) you could use this information as leverage in further discussions with her about the offending tree (ARC in response to a complaint could possibly demand that all non-approved landscaping be removed).
(Hopefully you received ARC approval for any landscaping work you have done, or this complaint approach could bite back)
If it were me, I’d approach her with an offer to pay all costs for removal and replacement of the tree with a new plant or tree that we would find mutually acceptable.
Thanks for the response. I had already thought about checking with ARC and I plan to do that. This tree is a Hong Kong Orchid that blooms for five months of the year. Also paragraph 2.12 of my restrictions reads "Owners shall keep Homesites neat and clean" and grass cut. After the blooming stops I have to contend with the leaves. 82424
TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 11:01 AM
I have a similar predicament as you.
Our neighbor has an oak tree near our property line. The acorns and leaves cover our yard and patio inches deep. When they fall, I have to clean them daily in order to enjoy our property. We made calls to the Villages offices and local landscapers (tree experts). We found out that if our neighbors were in compliance with standards and were unwilling to remedy the situation in our favor, the only thing we could do was trim whatever branches leaned over our property line.
Unfortunately, Steve may be brash, but he is correct. There isn't much you can do about it unless your neighbor wants to mitigate your dilemma. Our neighbors responded positively to our concerns by trimming the tree. BTW... It also worked for them, as they had less to clean up also.
Best
See my latest post. paragraph 2.12 says "Homeowners must keep property clean and neat". If this lady does that it will require daily cleaning. I don't think she wants to do that. Although most of the blooms are under the tree on her property probably 30" or more end up in my yard.
TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 11:06 AM
No one is disregarding any rules covenants or deed restrictions
best options offer to replace the tree live with it or move
Life to short to worry about a few events that are controlled only by mother nature
See my latest post. Deed restrictions paragraph 2.13 about keeping property neat and clean. This will require daily maintenance if you see the photo for her to keep property neat and clean. I'm not moving as they will take me out of this home horizontally. Own two homes in TV now and I'm where I want to be.
VIN574
01-04-2020, 11:07 AM
The lawn under the tree looks healthy. The lawn in fore ground looks like it needs a lot of TLC. Is that her driveway?
I agree with the previous poster that suggests you work it out with her even if you have to reach into your own pocket some. Since it will be to your advantage.
Two Bills
01-04-2020, 11:13 AM
The lawn under the tree looks healthy. The lawn in fore ground looks like it needs a lot of TLC. Is that her driveway?
Got to agree regarding the lawn. Ladies looks quite well maintained.
anothersteve
01-04-2020, 11:23 AM
Got to agree regarding the lawn. Ladies looks quite well maintained.
Another here that agrees.
Steve
TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 11:32 AM
Got to agree regarding the lawn. Ladies looks quite well maintained.
You didn't read what I posted about restrictions. It says "Owners shall keep homesites "neat and clean" and grass cut." Her property is not neat and clean with hundreds of more blooms that will fall. The tree starts blooming in Nov and blooms for five months according to google. I was blowing them back in her property but have now started blowing them in the street. The cars run over the blooms, destroy them like mashing grapes and they pretty much go away. That may be my solution.
Thanks
TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 11:36 AM
The lawn under the tree looks healthy. The lawn in fore ground looks like it needs a lot of TLC. Is that her driveway?
I agree with the previous poster that suggests you work it out with her even if you have to reach into your own pocket some. Since it will be to your advantage.
Lawn in front of the tree is mine and my lawn is much more healthy than hers over all. Point is her lawn is not neat and clean.
Marathon Man
01-04-2020, 01:47 PM
Neat and clean opinions vary. Community Standards' opinion will be the only one that matters, if you should decide to take that path.
CFrance
01-04-2020, 04:04 PM
Somebody is bound to complain about you making a mess in the street.
TimeForChange
01-04-2020, 07:17 PM
Not yet! What am I suppose to do? Rake up every little petal every day or hire to have it done? Cars going by don't complain they just drive through. We are writing the lady a letter and listing restrictive covenants that show she has to keep her lawn neat and clean and also that this had to be approved by the developer or ARC. I can almost guarantee it was not approved in writing. We will see or I will look at other options.
anothersteve
01-04-2020, 07:46 PM
And to think..........you started this thread.........."want to do the right thing". Your attitude sure changed fast.
Steve
JohnN
01-04-2020, 08:07 PM
ARC won't do a thing about a blossoming tree. Someone said it best, offer to mitigate it, live with it, or move.
Marathon Man
01-04-2020, 09:34 PM
And to think..........you started this thread.........."want to do the right thing". Your attitude sure changed fast.
Steve
Boy, you can say that again.
Marathon Man
01-04-2020, 09:40 PM
Not yet! What am I suppose to do? Rake up every little petal every day or hire to have it done? Cars going by don't complain they just drive through. We are writing the lady a letter and listing restrictive covenants that show she has to keep her lawn neat and clean and also that this had to be approved by the developer or ARC. I can almost guarantee it was not approved in writing. We will see or I will look at other options.
Ah yes. "Almost guarentee" = "I don't know". She can simply make an application after the fact which will be approved.
If she has her yard taken care of by a lawn service, then it is surely in compliance.
I wouldn't want one of my neighbors blowing their yard waste into the street.
SouthOfTheBorder
01-04-2020, 09:52 PM
See my latest post. paragraph 2.12 says "Homeowners must keep property clean and neat". If this lady does that it will require daily cleaning. I don't think she wants to do that. Although most of the blooms are under the tree on her property probably 30" or more end up in my yard.
You're upset over 30" of seasonal leaf/blossom encroachments? :shocked:
Seasons, like the wind, both come and go....Choose your hills carefully.
Why not just keep your side clean and move on. That's what a good neighbor would do.
:thumbup:
Don
Rzepecki
01-05-2020, 08:56 AM
My neighbor has a Hong Kong orchid tree and I welcome its blooms in the winter. It doesn’t cause any lawn disease (check with UF/IFAS) and certainly isn’t as filthy as live oak trees.
lclear
01-05-2020, 08:56 AM
Okay, so this beautiful tree flowers for two weeks out of the year. It is beautiful. With any beauty, the flowers fade with time (Just like us). If you still have issues with it, talk to GOD.
Keninches
01-05-2020, 09:01 AM
Good luck. We have and many others here in The Villages have HUGE oaks encroaching on our yards. You think you have a problem. Try leaves, limbs, humongous roots in your yard. Villages arborist came out and said, you can cut back whatever hangs in your yard or lands in your yard. Again , good luck.
Psschroeder
01-05-2020, 09:06 AM
What tree is best for TV? Low Maintenance, doesn’t make a mess or cause any possible fungus?
OhioBuckeye
01-05-2020, 09:40 AM
I feel your aggravation but if this person lived there before you why did you buy there? Was it because the tree was already there or or did this person have the tree put in, in the last 4 yrs.? Why didn’t you address it earlier? I understand your frustration, if this person wants trees or bushes it’s their job to clean up after them. Just like people do for their pets. Maybe instead of raking up their tree droppings rake them back into their yard. I know they’ll blow right back into your yard but the only thing left to do is complain your issue to TV or move. I always say, don’t plant more than what you can take care of. Yes bushes and trees shed leaves with seasons.
Carla B
01-05-2020, 09:57 AM
Yes, many of us have huge live oaks that make a mess. They were planted by the developer. Some of the neighbors were smart to remove them before they got too big, but we weren't. They are totally out of scale with the small lots.
Doug526
01-05-2020, 12:26 PM
Yes, many of us have huge live oaks that make a mess. They were planted by the developer. Some of the neighbors were smart to remove them before they got too big, but we weren't. They are totally out of scale with the small lots.
will not have Acorns after being trimmed back.
TimeForChange
01-05-2020, 01:47 PM
And to think..........you started this thread.........."want to do the right thing". Your attitude sure changed fast.
Steve
What would your attitude be if the tree that sheds blooms five to six months of the year were seven feet from your property line? Nothing has changed. I will do the right thing. Write a request letter, see what happens, in the letter offer to help pay to replace the tree with another. Knowing this person the problem will probably still exist.
TimeForChange
01-05-2020, 01:53 PM
This tree was very, very small when we moved in. It did not bloom but only shed leaves. Now we have the leaves and the thousands of blooms to deal with. On google the "Hong Kong Orchid" tree is said to be a very messy tree since it blooms for five to six months. I have been in most every Village in TV and never seen anything like this. I don't know if the person planted it but I doubt the developer did. I will find out.
anothersteve
01-05-2020, 01:53 PM
What would your attitude be if the tree that sheds blooms five to six months of the year were seven feet from your property line?.
Nothing like yours. I've dealt with things like this from where I came from and deal with much of the same things here, no different, lots of people think TV is a utopia, it's not.
Steve
TimeForChange
01-05-2020, 01:56 PM
On our previous property that we sold in TV of Caroline we had seven palm trees and five different varieties and this little tree is a hundred times more of a mess than all seven of the palms we had.
TimeForChange
01-05-2020, 02:00 PM
I do all my own yardwork in order to try to stay in shape at 74. You can bet I will keep my side "neat and clean and cut" per the restrictions but my neighbor is not doing the same and is requiring more work for me. We will try to see if she will replace the tree and we will agree to help. If it were in your yard you would be much less in agreement. I can assure you.
TimeForChange
01-05-2020, 02:03 PM
Ah yes. "Almost guarentee" = "I don't know". She can simply make an application after the fact which will be approved.
If she has her yard taken care of by a lawn service, then it is surely in compliance.
I wouldn't want one of my neighbors blowing their yard waste into the street.
If the tree were next to your property you would have a different opinion. Easy for you to say "this or that" without the experience. Thanks anyway. Why not do with other real helping people do and tell me to move?:blahblahblah:
TimeForChange
01-05-2020, 02:06 PM
I'm signing off on this one. Writing a letter, trying to be nice and understanding to the person. We will see what happens.
Marathon Man
01-05-2020, 08:27 PM
If the tree were next to your property you would have a different opinion. Easy for you to say "this or that" without the experience. Thanks anyway. Why not do with other real helping people do and tell me to move?:blahblahblah:
Perhaps. But I rather doubt that my opinion would be that I should go on line and complain about it.
anothersteve
01-05-2020, 10:03 PM
I'm signing off on this one. Writing a letter, trying to be nice and understanding to the person. We will see what happens.
I don't understand. You are writting a letter to your next door neighbor about a tree that is dropping blooms on your lawn? Is that correct? I'm trying to understand now. If that is the case why wouldn't you just go knock on the door and try to solve it man to man, man to woman, woman to woman, woman to man, or maybe just neighbor to neighbor?
OrangeBlossomBaby
01-05-2020, 10:33 PM
I have a similar predicament as you.
Our neighbor has an oak tree near our property line. The acorns and leaves cover our yard and patio inches deep. When they fall, I have to clean them daily in order to enjoy our property. We made calls to the Villages offices and local landscapers (tree experts). We found out that if our neighbors were in compliance with standards and were unwilling to remedy the situation in our favor, the only thing we could do was trim whatever branches leaned over our property line.
Unfortunately, Steve may be brash, but he is correct. There isn't much you can do about it unless your neighbor wants to mitigate your dilemma. Our neighbors responded positively to our concerns by trimming the tree. BTW... It also worked for them, as they had less to clean up also.
Best
We have a tree in our yard that is way too tall, its branches too long, and the leaves fall all over everyone else's property. But it came with the house, and we just bought the house, and there's nothing "wrong" with it. If one of our neighbors offered to pay for its removal and replacement with something less obtrusive and overbearing, I would GLADLY agree. We can't afford to even pay someone to trim it, let alone remove it or replace it. We're on the ladder trimming the lowest branches ourselves just so they don't sit on the roof of the house.
It was probably an awesome shade tree 10 years ago but it's gotten out of control and doesn't look like it's ever been trimmed.
JimJohnson
01-06-2020, 05:04 AM
I don’t think you have to worry about rot or mold from red bud pedals. Falling leaves Is just nature, if your still concerned, 2 minutes with a leaf blower could solve the problem.
karostay
01-06-2020, 08:06 AM
it took 8 years....Hummm bet more to story than just the tree
Win1894
01-06-2020, 09:50 AM
I don’t think you have to worry about rot or mold from red bud pedals. Falling leaves Is just nature, if your still concerned, 2 minutes with a leaf blower could solve the problem.
I agree. I amazes me how petty people can be. "Let's sick the ARC folks on the woman." Seriously! The tree looks nice, and know that nobody else in the entire world gives a crap about your perfect lawn. If it really bugs you, go get a rake and spend 5 minutes perfecting your yard.
Marathon Man
01-06-2020, 10:13 AM
This could easily turn into a "bad neighbor" situation. The question is: Which one is the bad neighbor?
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