Trailwinds 466A.....by cart?

[Graspher]

I searched the forum - nothing found.

I prefer cart travel over car travel but my cart is not street legal. Yes I have parked my cart in the Village neighborhood across from Trailwinds and walked over but there is no fun in that!

Part of Trailwinds is contiguous to TV.

Any idea if one day there may be a cart path leading to the treasure trove of retailers?

[Two Bills]

As 'da Family' does not own the land that Trailwinds occupies, very little, to no chance, of golf cart access

[kathyspear]

I prefer cart travel over car travel but my cart is not street legal. Yes I have parked my cart in the Village neighborhood across from Trailwinds and walked over but there is no fun in that!

Part of Trailwinds is contiguous to TV.

Any idea if one day there may be a cart path leading to the treasure trove of retailers?

That's how I feel about the shopping across Rolling Acres (with Best Buy) So close yet so far ... by cart!

kathy

[JSR22]

Will not happen. The Morse's want you to shop in their establishments. They would lose money with cart access to Trailwinds.

[Aces4]

Will not happen. The Morse's want you to shop in their establishments. They would lose money with cart access to Trailwinds.

How about the real reason, if you can go out that way everyone else can come in that way. Look at the mess at the gate on the historical side, people have no idea how many outside residents come in that way. Anyone can get a pass from an acquaintance or employ several other techniques and manned gates are expensive.

[villagetinker]

The Trailwinds development is actually part of Wildwood, and it has been announced NO golf cart access from TV. I actually looked at Google earth and there is only 1 location where this could be done, at one of the pools, and this would be very detrimental to the home owners in the area.

[John_W]

This has been brought up numerous times since Trailwinds broke ground 3 years ago. Trailwinds and Beaumont Properties are directly across from Pinellas Plaza, property owned by TV. When excavation started on Trailwinds, even before Lowes opened in January 2018, TV immediately put a split rail fence around Sand Hill Executive. That's the nine on the corner of Buena Vista and 466A. A person who didn't care about trespassing could of cut across that golf course until the fence was installed. I watched the fence go up since I drive by there almost everyday going to MVP. If you don't believe that, look for a fence around Turtle Mound Executive across the street, there isn't one. No need to put one there.

For example, how this hurts Villages Leasing. TV gave exclusive leases to Subway at Colony, Pinellas and Traverse, meaning Jersey Mike's could not come in. They went into Trailwinds and last summer that location went from being new to #1 Jersey Mike's location in the USA out of 1600 stores. I asked Randy the manager on Friday if it was still busy or did Taco Bell, Burger King and Wendys slow you down. He said on Thursday they sold 800 subs.

[Chi-Town]

I'm still amazed that property didn't end up in The Villages. After all, who runs Sumter County?

[dewilson58]

Will not happen. The Morse's want you to shop in their establishments.




I've missed it, where is Morse's Lowe's???




:clap2:

[Aces4]

This has been brought up numerous times since Trailwinds broke ground 3 years ago. Trailwinds and Beaumont Properties are directly across from Pinellas Plaza, property owned by TV. When excavation started on Trailwinds, even before Lowes opened in January 2018, TV immediately put a split rail fence around Sand Hill Executive. That's the nine on the corner of Buena Vista and 466A. A person who didn't care about trespassing could of cut across that golf course until the fence was installed. I watched the fence go up since I drive by there almost everyday going to MVP. If you don't believe that, look for a fence around Turtle Mound Executive across the street, there isn't one. No need to put one there.

For example, how this hurts Villages Leasing. TV gave exclusive leases to Subway at Colony, Pinellas and Traverse, meaning Jersey Mike's could not come in. They went into Trailwinds and last summer that location went from being new to #1 Jersey Mike's location in the USA out of 1600 stores. I asked Randy the manager on Friday if it was still busy or did Taco Bell, Burger King and Wendys slow you down. He said on Thursday they sold 800 subs.

What you failed to mention is the huge residential building project about to develop in the area surrounding Trailwinds. Those residents would have have access to The Villages cart paths if another sorry gate like the one on the historical side was installed. The Squares will be busy enough without cartpath access. What does it take once in awhile to start the car and go a couple of miles?

[EdFNJ]

This has been brought up numerous times since Trailwinds broke ground 3 years ago. Trailwinds and Beaumont Properties are directly across from Pinellas Plaza, property owned by TV. When excavation started on Trailwinds, even before Lowes opened in January 2018, TV immediately put a split rail fence around Sand Hill Executive. That's the nine on the corner of Buena Vista and 466A. A person who didn't care about trespassing could of cut across that golf course until the fence was installed. I watched the fence go up since I drive by there almost everyday going to MVP. If you don't believe that, look for a fence around Turtle Mound Executive across the street, there isn't one. No need to put one there.

For example, how this hurts Villages Leasing. TV gave exclusive leases to Subway at Colony, Pinellas and Traverse, meaning Jersey Mike's could not come in. They went into Trailwinds and last summer that location went from being new to #1 Jersey Mike's location in the USA out of 1600 stores. I asked Randy the manager on Friday if it was still busy or did Taco Bell, Burger King and Wendys slow you down. He said on Thursday they sold 800 subs.
800 subs in one day? I like Jersey Mikes (there was one about 1/2 mile from me in NJ) but I'd take that with a grain of kosher salt, ham & turkey with some peppers and no mayo or onions! They are opened 11 hours so that would be at minimum 73 subs continuously every hour they were opened! Even with 2 people continuously making them all day and doing nothing else like taking cash or going to the bathroom or having lunch that would be 36.5 subs per person every hour or almost 2 subs every MINUTE !!!! Maybe he meant 80 ? :D :D

However I do agree with you on the rest of your post.

[EdFNJ]

What you failed to mention is the huge residential building project about to develop in the area surrounding Trailwinds. Those residents would have have access to The Villages cart paths if another sorry gate like the one on the historical side was installed. The Squares will be busy enough without cartpath access. What does it take once in awhile to start the car and go a couple of miles?
True, but The Villages is a Golf Cart community so we like to drive our golf carts everywhere. :) Besides, all those "outsiders" need to do is climb into their car and drive in! Whether it is by golf cart or car "if we have it they will come." So really, what's the difference?n I don't think there will be that many golf carts in that new area because they likely don't have anyplace to go with them. If TV were smart, since they can come anyway by car, bus or bicycle and spend their money here they would consider making it GC accessible. Without "outsiders" spending money in the stores the squares would be a ghost town (except for the dog bakeries and dog clothes stores ).

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Will not happen. The Morse's want you to shop in their establishments. They would lose money with cart access to Trailwinds.

You mean, like they have a duty to their business tenants?

[NotGolfer]

800 subs in one day? I like Jersey Mikes (there was one about 1/2 mile from me in NJ) but I'd take that with a grain of kosher salt, ham & turkey with some peppers and no mayo or onions! They are opened 11 hours so that would be at minimum 73 subs continuously every hour they were opened! Even with 2 people continuously making them all day and doing nothing else like taking cash or going to the bathroom or having lunch that would be 36.5 subs per person every hour or almost 2 subs every MINUTE !!!! Maybe he meant 80 ? :D :D

However I do agree with you on the rest of your post.

It might be true. I was there at 11:30 on Thursday (very busy) and there was a sign that said it was their "birthday" and all regular subs would be $5.00 that day. I doubt he said 80!! I do know they had business already at 10:30 as I parked in front to go to Beauty First for a hair-cut and say people coming out of J.M.'s at that time.

As for golf-cart accessability---if you look at the stop-light at Pinellas. There "might" be a road access into Trail-winds there. BUT to go by golf-cart, one would have to have an LSE to do it (as a controlled intersection). The road hasn't been completed yet, so it's hard to say at this moment. It might be as another said that it will be like the Best-buy area and not be accessible.

[John_W]

What you failed to mention is the huge residential building project about to develop in the area surrounding Trailwinds. Those residents would have have access to The Villages cart paths if another sorry gate like the one on the historical side was installed. The Squares will be busy enough without cartpath access. What does it take once in awhile to start the car and go a couple of miles?

That's true, the Beaumont Properties that I mentioned directly across from Pinellas Plaza. If we had access to Trailwinds then everyone from Beaumont and pretty much all of Wildwood would have access to us and be driving golf carts into TV, it's a 2-way street.

They are opened 11 hours so that would be at minimum 73 subs continuously every hour they were opened! Even with 2 people continuously making them all day and doing nothing else like taking cash or going to the bathroom or having lunch that would be 36.5 subs per person every hour or almost 2 subs every MINUTE !!!! Maybe he meant 80 ?

800 is nothing, they have one person on the grill, one slicing meats, one making the subs Mike's Way and one wrapping and one ringing up the sale, it's like an assembly line. That's 5 people, they normally have about 8 people on duty so they can rotate. The queue line can go out the side door quite often. I worked in a sub shop when I was 19 in Ocean City Maryland on the boardwalk and we made about 500 steak subs a day. If you think about, 800 x $5 is only $4,000, add in the combo which is a drink and chips for $3, that's $2500. I would think $10,000 in a day is very doable.

[JoMar]

At some point there will be commercial development on Miller (466A) as it heads to Fruitland Park. None will be GC accessible.

[ColdNoMore]

Will not happen. The Morse's want you to shop in their establishments. They would lose money with cart access to Trailwinds.

I personally think there's a lot of truth in your observation. :thumbup:

[Aces4]

True, but The Villages is a Golf Cart community so we like to drive our golf carts everywhere. :) Besides, all those "outsiders" need to do is climb into their car and drive in! Whether it is by golf cart or car "if we have it they will come." So really, what's the difference?n I don't think there will be that many golf carts in that new area because they likely don't have anyplace to go with them. If TV were smart, since they can come anyway by car, bus or bicycle and spend their money here they would consider making it GC accessible. Without "outsiders" spending money in the stores the squares would be a ghost town (except for the dog bakeries and dog clothes stores ).

I can think of one instance immediately. A Villager out for a bike ride was creamed and almost killed by a non-Villager who snuck in with his golfcart and came around a bend while in the middle of the cart path. The cyclist was severely injured. If one would like them on our paths, charge a healthy toll to help us maintain the cart paths.

[Bogie Shooter]

I personally think there's a lot of truth in your observation. :thumbup:

I found the post you quoted very difficult to read. Orange background off color font. Anybody else?

[CFrance]

I found the post you quoted very difficult to read. Orange background off color font. Anybody else?
The way it appeared on my laptop was a green background with orange colored font (this was the post he was replying to) with the normal tan color and black font for his own post. It wasn't hard to read. I don't think I saw the same color combination you did, Bogie. I'm on the original version, not the new version.

[EdFNJ]

I can think of one instance immediately. A Villager out for a bike ride was creamed and almost killed by a non-Villager who snuck in with his golfcart and came around a bend while in the middle of the cart path. The cyclist was severely injured. If one would like them on our paths, charge a healthy toll to help us maintain the cart paths. Gotcha, no one wants them but "insiders" probably "almost kill" as many people as "outsiders" driving or biking on the roads. Accidents will happen everywhere by anyone. Unfortunately we can't hide from it.

[dewilson58]

I'm still amazed that property didn't end up in The Villages. After all, who runs Sumter County?




Facts sometimes get in the way of conspiracy theories.


:duck:

[alanmcdonald]

If I remember correctly, TV originally was going to buy the property, but Wildwood insisted on free and open golf cart access to Wildwood. TV would not agree and Wildwood would not approve the TV development plans so TV did not complete the purchase. Trailwinds is the result.

[golfing eagles]

If I remember correctly, TV originally was going to buy the property, but Wildwood insisted on free and open golf cart access to Wildwood. TV would not agree and Wildwood would not approve the TV development plans so TV did not complete the purchase. Trailwinds is the result.

I don't think that was the issue. First of all, how many residents of Wildwood proper own a golf cart? And secondly there would have to be a crossing of CR 462, 466A west of Powell, and 301 for those who live on the west side of Wildwood. I think the reason was more political in nature

[Graspher]

Will not happen. The Morse's want you to shop in their establishments. They would lose money with cart access to Trailwinds.

Yesssss....that makes a ton of sense.

[Queenie504]

No one needs a pass to get through ANY gate. They are for traffic control only.

[Graspher]

This has been brought up numerous times since Trailwinds broke ground 3 years ago. Trailwinds and Beaumont Properties are directly across from Pinellas Plaza, property owned by TV. When excavation started on Trailwinds, even before Lowes opened in January 2018, TV immediately put a split rail fence around Sand Hill Executive. That's the nine on the corner of Buena Vista and 466A. A person who didn't care about trespassing could of cut across that golf course until the fence was installed. I watched the fence go up since I drive by there almost everyday going to MVP. If you don't believe that, look for a fence around Turtle Mound Executive across the street, there isn't one. No need to put one there.

For example, how this hurts Villages Leasing. TV gave exclusive leases to Subway at Colony, Pinellas and Traverse, meaning Jersey Mike's could not come in. They went into Trailwinds and last summer that location went from being new to #1 Jersey Mike's location in the USA out of 1600 stores. I asked Randy the manager on Friday if it was still busy or did Taco Bell, Burger King and Wendys slow you down. He said on Thursday they sold 800 subs.


Excellent points - thanks.

I have issues with Trailwinds Jersey Mike's - will make separate post in appropriate category....

[Graspher]

That's how I feel about the shopping across Rolling Acres (with Best Buy) So close yet so far ... by cart!

kathy

:bigbow:

[Graspher]

800 subs in one day? I like Jersey Mikes (there was one about 1/2 mile from me in NJ) but I'd take that with a grain of kosher salt, ham & turkey with some peppers and no mayo or onions! They are opened 11 hours so that would be at minimum 73 subs continuously every hour they were opened! Even with 2 people continuously making them all day and doing nothing else like taking cash or going to the bathroom or having lunch that would be 36.5 subs per person every hour or almost 2 subs every MINUTE !!!! Maybe he meant 80 ? :D :D

However I do agree with you on the rest of your post.

If memory serves - I believe Mr. Helpful was having lunch at Mike's on the 800 Thursday......

[coffeebean]

I found the post you quoted very difficult to read. Orange background off color font. Anybody else?

It depends if you were viewing the old version of the forum or the new version.

[coffeebean]

If I remember correctly, TV originally was going to buy the property, but Wildwood insisted on free and open golf cart access to Wildwood. TV would not agree and Wildwood would not approve the TV development plans so TV did not complete the purchase. Trailwinds is the result.

Really? Wildwood wanted access to The Villages' golf courses for all of their residents......for free? If that is true, I understand why The Villages wanted no part of that deal.

[Two Bills]

Really? Wildwood wanted access to The Villages' golf courses for all of their residents......for free? If that is true, I understand why The Villages wanted no part of that deal.

Unless I have misread the post you quoted, I think you have misunderstood the post.
Wildwood wanted open to all golf cart access to TV.
Not TV golf courses.

[John_W]

I believe TV plan was to build homes, villas and no commercial property since Pinellas Plaza was already there. Wildwood voted no for probably the first time and said they wanted commercial development. The Villages could of proposed something different, but didn't see the possibilties the same way The Barclay Group did, mixed use. They develop shopping centers all over the country and we're almost in their backyard since they are based in Safety Harbor next to Clearwater.

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[genobambino]

I don't know if any of you remember when the Villages wanted to build homes on that trailwinds property, they had a picture in the Sun paper showing a golf cart access tying it to the rest of TV. I think it's a shame they don't open it, their just causing more inconvenience to people and adding to the car traffic on the streets.

[Marathon Man]

I don't know if any of you remember when the Villages wanted to build homes on that trailwinds property, they had a picture in the Sun paper showing a golf cart access tying it to the rest of TV. I think it's a shame they don't open it, their just causing more inconvenience to people and adding to the car traffic on the streets.

Really? Not being able to take your golf cart outside of the community is an inconvenience?

[Debboguch50]

I personally think there's a lot of truth in your observation. :thumbup:
Was going down 466a one evening and noticed tail lights saw a golf cart that used 466a till he came to the side walk then got on sidewalk till he came to Burger King then turned in. I was shocked to see the golf cart. He must have been really hungry to take a chance of driving on 466a!

[Aw Man]

......I prefer cart travel over car travel......

Unless you’re going to or from a golf course, Why, Why, Why?

I just don’t understand what mature adults find enjoyable about riding around The Villages in bumpy, smelly and uncomfortable golf carts.

Even my visiting grandchildren, once they got a driver’s license, dropped the golf carts like they were an old toy.

[ColdNoMore]

The way it appeared on my laptop was a green background with orange colored font (this was the post he was replying to) with the normal tan color and black font for his own post. It wasn't hard to read. I don't think I saw the same color combination you did, Bogie. I'm on the original version, not the new version.

I too, am using the original version and the quote is the exact same...as how I've been doing it for a long time now.

I personally find a bolded, 'DarkOrange' font, with the green background...the easiest to read.

It sounds like Bogie is saying that it shows up differently on the new version...since I'm not doing anything differently on my end.

When forced to use the new, currently garish, version...I guess I'll have to figure out something else. :shrug:

[John_W]

I was leaving Brownwood MVP last week and was headed to Powell Rd on Kessell, directly across from Alden Bungalows. Coming across Powell and up Kessell was a fellow who I estimate was about 350, probably 40 years old, riding his mobility scooter. Kind looked like this. Unless he was staying in Alden, he had to come from 44A and Wildwood. If You Build it, they Will Come!!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/3/38/Albert_.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20150210010349

[photo1902]

I was leaving Brownwood MVP last week and was headed to Powell Rd on Kessell, directly across from Alden Bungalows. Coming across Powell and up Kessell was a fellow who I estimate was about 350, probably 40 years old, riding his mobility scooter. Kind looked like this. Unless he was staying in Alden, he had to come from 44A and Wildwood. If You Build it, they Will Come!!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/3/38/Albert_.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20150210010349

Good thing you pointed out his weight. Way to keep it classy.

[EdFNJ]

Unless you’re going to or from a golf course, Why, Why, Why?

I just don’t understand what mature adults find enjoyable about riding around The Villages in bumpy, smelly and uncomfortable golf carts.

Even my visiting grandchildren, once they got a driver’s license, dropped the golf carts like they were an old toy.


Mainly because it's often fun and it's part of The Villages lifestyle. Also saves on gas vs insurance of a 2nd car. That plus we all don't have 2 cars (some people have none) so the GC is their 2nd vehicle and since this is a "GOLF CART COMMUNITY' they drive around in golf carts. Aside from all that, mine has A/C & heat so your comment does not affect me but I did drive one for a couple months in july/aug and while it ain't like A/C it wasn't that awful. :D There are a lot more golf carts here than there are people who play golf so I would guess you are in the minority with your opinion.

[coffeebean]

Unless I have misread the post you quoted, I think you have misunderstood the post.
Wildwood wanted open to all golf cart access to TV.
Not TV golf courses.

I guess I read that wrong. But.....giving Wildwood residents access to TV MMPs would have been even worse. I'm so glad the Morses told Wildwood to go take a hike!

[coffeebean]

Unless you’re going to or from a golf course, Why, Why, Why?

I just don’t understand what mature adults find enjoyable about riding around The Villages in bumpy, smelly and uncomfortable golf carts.

Even my visiting grandchildren, once they got a driver’s license, dropped the golf carts like they were an old toy.

Not all golf carts are what you described. I have an electric Yamaha and it is quiet, smooth, odor free and extremely comfortable. I have upgraded seats with lumbar support and arm rests. My directionals are self cancelling just like a car. I have high beams just like a car so I can easily see at night.

Having said that, I don't drive the golf cart more than five miles one way. My car is for anything beyond 5 miles from our home. I refuse to drive the cart north of 466 on Morse. It is too dangerous for my liking.

.

[Bogie Shooter]

The way it appeared on my laptop was a green background with orange colored font (this was the post he was replying to) with the normal tan color and black font for his own post. It wasn't hard to read. I don't think I saw the same color combination you did, Bogie. I'm on the original version, not the new version.

I too, am using the original version and the quote is the exact same...as how I've been doing it for a long time now.

I personally find a bolded, 'DarkOrange' font, with the green background...the easiest to read.

It sounds like Bogie is saying that it shows up differently on the new version...since I'm not doing anything differently on my end.

When forced to use the new, currently garish, version...I guess I'll have to figure out something else. :shrug:

I went back to old version...easy to read. The problem is on the new version color combinations.

[JoMar]

Unless you’re going to or from a golf course, Why, Why, Why?

I just don’t understand what mature adults find enjoyable about riding around The Villages in bumpy, smelly and uncomfortable golf carts.

Even my visiting grandchildren, once they got a driver’s license, dropped the golf carts like they were an old toy.

Most of us have golf carts because we no longer have the need to get somewhere every time we get into a vehicle, that carts provide a way to enjoy nature and a more intimate spontaneous relationship with people, many we never met before. My visiting grandkids all have drivers licenses and when they are here, unless they leave the bubbly, they only use carts. They are learning the enjoyment of a "retired" life style pace at the age of 17 and 19. There are people here who don't get the lifestyle yet for some reason moved here. It's ok, just that you are missing a lot of what this place has to offer.

[Chi-Town]

Unless you’re going to or from a golf course, Why, Why, Why?



I just don’t understand what mature adults find enjoyable about riding around The Villages in bumpy, smelly and uncomfortable golf carts.



Even my visiting grandchildren, once they got a driver’s license, dropped the golf carts like they were an old toy.

"Bumpy, smelly, and uncomfortable".....those old Corvettes sure were fun to drive.


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[Graspher]

Unless you’re going to or from a golf course, Why, Why, Why?

I just don’t understand what mature adults find enjoyable about riding around The Villages in bumpy, smelly and uncomfortable golf carts.

Even my visiting grandchildren, once they got a driver’s license, dropped the golf carts like they were an old toy.

Mainly because it's often fun and it's part of The Villages lifestyle. Also saves on gas vs insurance of a 2nd car. That plus we all don't have 2 cars (some people have none) so the GC is their 2nd vehicle and since this is a "GOLF CART COMMUNITY' they drive around in golf carts. Aside from all that, mine has A/C & heat so your comment does not affect me but I did drive one for a couple months in july/aug and while it ain't like A/C it wasn't that awful. :D There are a lot more golf carts here than there are people who play golf so I would guess you are in the minority with your opinion.

The above plus.....60 years of driving cars has gotten a bit monotonous - I feel that the MMPs are safer then roads - easier to find parking - with the windshield down brings back memories of being on a motorcycle...etc etc etc

[Mmarr]

I searched the forum - nothing found.

I prefer cart travel over car travel but my cart is not street legal. Yes I have parked my cart in the Village neighborhood across from Trailwinds and walked over but there is no fun in that!

Part of Trailwinds is contiguous to TV.

Any idea if one day there may be a cart path leading to the treasure trove of retailers?
No carts..not village..is wildwood property...take your car

[bilcon]

800 subs in one day? I like Jersey Mikes (there was one about 1/2 mile from me in NJ) but I'd take that with a grain of kosher salt, ham & turkey with some peppers and no mayo or onions! They are opened 11 hours so that would be at minimum 73 subs continuously every hour they were opened! Even with 2 people continuously making them all day and doing nothing else like taking cash or going to the bathroom or having lunch that would be 36.5 subs per person every hour or almost 2 subs every MINUTE !!!! Maybe he meant 80 ? :D :D

However I do agree with you on the rest of your post.

Well last Tuesday alone, one of the bigger clubs in TV had over 200 subs at their meeting from Jersey Mike's, sooo that makes sense.:a040::a040:

[Linda J]

The Trailwinds development is actually part of Wildwood, and it has been announced NO golf cart access from TV. I actually looked at Google earth and there is only 1 location where this could be done, at one of the pools, and this would be very detrimental to the home owners in the area.

I'm wondering what pool you are talking about? I don't know of any pool's that have an exit to any shopping area.

[CFrance]

I'm wondering what pool you are talking about? I don't know of any pool's that have an exit to any shopping area.
Back when TV was trying to buy that land, the golf cart access proposal was going to be through the Tamarind Grove postal station and pool park, then onto Tamarind Grove Run. It would have split that beautiful park in half, cut down many majestic trees, and ruined the peaceful atmosphere at the pool. Not to mention the fact of overloading Tamarind Grove Run with traffic it wasn't designed for. I for one cheered when Wildwood wouldn't go along with the sale of Trailwinds to TV.

[VillagerNut]

I believe TV plan was to build homes, villas and no commercial property since Pinellas Plaza was already there. Wildwood voted no for probably the first time and said they wanted commercial development. The Villages could of proposed something different, but didn't see the possibilties the same way The Barclay Group did, mixed use. They develop shopping centers all over the country and we're almost in their backyard since they are based in Safety Harbor next to Clearwater.

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Now that is the correct story which is the developer wanted to build more houses and Wildwood said they wanted infrastructure that would help the rest of the residents of Wildwood with shopping.

[LadyPenO]

I searched the forum - nothing found.

I prefer cart travel over car travel but my cart is not street legal. Yes I have parked my cart in the Village neighborhood across from Trailwinds and walked over but there is no fun in that!

Part of Trailwinds is contiguous to TV.

Any idea if one day there may be a cart path leading to the treasure trove of retailers?
We seniors are aging much faster than we expected. Golf carts are becoming a mandatory mode of transportation to many of us. Access to Trailwinds and other shopping areas WITHOUT cart access WILL be an added bonus and selling point for The Villages, NOW who volunteers to put that golf path entrance/exit access through their property? These access gates must be in the building stages so homeowners know if that traffic abuts their property (i.e. Winifred from Buena Vista by Palmer golf course). The golf cart access gate at Country Club Hills to medical facilities was closed, WITHOUT much of the public knowing why. Was it a security issue or what???? Inquiring minds need to know...

[CFrance]

I guess I read that wrong. But.....giving Wildwood residents access to TV MMPs would have been even worse. I'm so glad the Morses told Wildwood to go take a hike!
Actually, it was the other way around. Wildwood was the one who wouldn't budge.


In any event, I agree with the poster who said why would they give golf cart access to retailers who aren't on TV property? They need to be supporting their own customers.

[Wayne4]

Not going to happen, ever. Trail Winds is not owned by TV's. City of Wildwood refused to approve the purchase of the property by TV.

[Graspher]

Most of us have golf carts because we no longer have the need to get somewhere every time we get into a vehicle, that carts provide a way to enjoy nature and a more intimate spontaneous relationship with people, many we never met before. My visiting grandkids all have drivers licenses and when they are here, unless they leave the bubbly, they only use carts. They are learning the enjoyment of a "retired" life style pace at the age of 17 and 19. There are people here who don't get the lifestyle yet for some reason moved here. It's ok, just that you are missing a lot of what this place has to offer.

Right on - power to the cart!!

[JSR22]

We only use our cart for golf. Never take it to restaurants, squares or shopping.

[EdFNJ]

Well last Tuesday alone, one of the bigger clubs in TV had over 200 subs at their meeting from Jersey Mike's, sooo that makes sense.:a040::a040: Well, that's not 800 and he said IIRC Thursday. Plus they could have been ordered and made over multiple days so I guess they could have statistically fudged that stat into 800 SOLD in one day but not necessarily made. :D I'll give 'em that although they might be a little stale! I'll walk in there on Wed when they open and tell 'em I need 800 by the next day and see what they say! :1rotfl:

Edit: Or maybe the 200 was 100 sliced in half or 800 was 100 sliced in 8ths !!! :D

[John_W]

Well, that's not 800 and he said IIRC Thursday. Plus they could have been ordered and made over multiple days so I guess they could have statistically fudged that stat into 800 SOLD in one day but not necessarily made. :D I'll give 'em that although they might be a little stale! I'll walk in there on Wed when they open and tell 'em I need 800 by the next day and see what they say! :1rotfl:

Edit: Or maybe the 200 was 100 sliced in half or 800 was 100 sliced in 8ths !!! :D

Jersey Mike's doesn't make their subs in advance. They get phone-in orders all the time, especially at this new location. That's why they have 8 people usually on a day shift. They're the #1 location in America. 800 subs, would be regulars, not giants. A regular is a half of a giant, it's the standard sub. If walked in and said you needed 800 subs, Randy would say, what do you want on them and how are you going to pay? For an order that big, they have another location 9 miles away and the owner Jake is a phone call away. You can find ways to make things work if you're a good business. I was in there about two weeks ago and he had 100 subs going to Eisenhower Center. It's SOP.

[Gary Moscowitz]

With reference to GC access to Trailwinds, I too, doubt there will ever be access. However, the reverse is not so clear. Many people in the surrounding areas can easily put their GC on a trailer, drive over to TV, park, unload GC and travel throughout TV. That little red button opens all gates if you even need one to get thru. I suspect that many Villagers, South of 44 are doing that as well. I'm sure the Morse's see that as $'s coming into TV & therefore would make no effort to restrict. The question then arises, haven't we as homeowners helped to pay for the multi-modal paths? Shouldn't they, in theory, be restricted to Villagers only? Personally I don't really care, but I do see parking becoming a serious issue in TV, esp around Brownwood Paddock Square. Between all the new bldgs. going up and the use of what were overflow parking areas (grassy areas) being now built upon big events such as the Strawberry Festival, parking will simply be unavailable. Perhaps its time for The Villages to develop its own transportation ie buses/trolley system that caters to all Villagers & not just those interested in possibly buying here. Hint, hint!

[Bogie Shooter]

Would all those buses/trolleys stop right at your House? Probably not. So, need for stations.....but how to get to station from house?
How is your idea going to work? I suppose it is expected to be free as well..........

[Chatbrat]

If Trailwinds was GC accessible, Tamarind Grove would become non livable--the constant flow of GC would make local access almost impossible, as it is now trying to get on St Charles , can be very frustrating

[EdFNJ]

Jersey Mike's doesn't make their subs in advance. They get phone-in orders all the time, especially at this new location. That's why they have 8 people usually on a day shift. They're the #1 location in America. 800 subs, would be regulars, not giants. A regular is a half of a giant, it's the standard sub. If walked in and said you needed 800 subs, Randy would say, what do you want on them and how are you going to pay? For an order that big, they have another location 9 miles away and the owner Jake is a phone call away. You can find ways to make things work if you're a good business. I was in there about two weeks ago and he had 100 subs going to Eisenhower Center. It's SOP.

Yea, OK. ;) If that were the case then THEY didn't make 800. Now it's down to MAYBE 400 if you want to believe the story and they split it up. I also can't imagine how THAT store could be their busiest. I've been in their store in Westfield NJ many times over the years day and night weekends and weekdays and it is ALWAYS much busier since it is in the middle of a relatively high end retail downtown area with many major stores loads of offices all around it. I might possibly go with "their busiest store in Florida." Maybe. :)

Hey whatever. Not worth arguing over any further not that he could possibly be overstating or anything. ;)