Publix phasing out plastic bags

[coffeebean]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

[Nucky]

This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.

[kcrazorbackfan]

This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.

Most of the plastic bags that come from groceries have small slits in the bottom of them. Can you imagine the look on people's faces when the poop they pick up gets all over their fingers? :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

About time.
Bring your own bags, Aldi have done it for years.
No one died, but the sea and enviroment were just a little bit cleaner and safer for wildlife.
I hope Walmart follow suit, along with all other retailers!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

When Connecticut phased out plastic grocery bags a lot of people were incensed. They felt they had some kind of "right" to free bags at the supermarket, and the clothing stores, and the take-out joints.

Except, most people had totally forgotten that the world did just fine before plastic grocery bags were invented. Now, we don't even need to cut trees down to make the paper bags - we can use re-useable cloth bags instead, toss them in the washing machine every month and they're good to go, bacteria-free and sturdier than paper or plastic. A single cloth bag can last a year, even if you wash it every week. They usually cost between a buck and two bucks to replace.

And for those who want a way to pick up the dog poop, well hey - you know you can BUY a whole roll of poop-bags at supermarkets and pet food stores.

For those who need to clean the litter box (and for those who use these bags to LINE their litter boxes) - you can buy a box of 1000 for under $30 on Amazon. That should last you a year or two.

It's not a big deal. It is one of those "changes" people oppose for no reason other than they don't want change. It's especially unforgiveable if you have a problem with the plastic bags and you don't even try to re-use them. If you're just throwing them away when you get your groceries home, then you can throw away your cloth bags instead. Or not use bags. Use boxes like the big box stores and Aldi's provide.

Or - you can just pay for the container of choice. You have to pay for everything else in life, why make a fuss about a plastic bag you're just going to throw away in 10 minutes anyway?

[tophcfa]

Dam, no plastic bags up north for the dog poop but until now they were available in the Villages. I guess now we will have to pay for dog poop bags.

[JoMar]

Have been using reusable bags for years including insulated for the cold stuff. Actually easier. Giant in PA had reusable bags plus you could ring up each item in your cart and put it directly into the bag. Sams has scan and go which speeds up the process. I know they can't do that in the grocery stores here, too many would try to steal. Closest is self check out which we use where ever available.

[Velvet]

Paper bags please. Loved them for many purposes.
I remember shopping in Europe and they offered no bags at all, so I only bought what fit in my hand.

[Two Bills]

Paper bags please. Loved them for many purposes.
I remember shopping in Europe and they offered no bags at all, so I only bought what fit in my hand.

At least paper bags rot away in the landfills .
Europe is way ahead of USA with the removal of plastic from the enviroment, but they still have a long way to go.
We bring our shopping bags from UK with us to save using the plastic bags here.
May not be much on the scale of the problem, but at least we are making our small contribution and effort.

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
Mao Tze Tung.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I should add: I'm a cat owner. I'll be buying bags from Amazon once they phase out the plastics. I don't like that at all, because I am one of those people who RE-USE the bags. They are never single-use bags for me. But I used to buy liners for the cat box before they invented clumping litter and that was a much greater expense, and huge waste of plastic.

[coffeebean]

In Florida, residential recycling does not allow grocery store bags. I found this out when I Googled if grocery bags are accepted as recycles in Florida after my brother-in-law told me plastic bags are not accepted in residential neighborhoods. I have always dropped off my plastic grocery bags in the bins in front of Publix or the bins at Winn Dixie. I thought those grocery bags were being recycled. Does anyone know what the grocery stores do with those plastic bags?

[Bjeanj]

Tell me if I’m incorrect, but I seem to recall the outcry years ago when paper bags were the norm. Then people started an outcry about all the trees being chopped down for these bags. Isn’t that when plastic bags were introduced?

I don’t mind bring in reusable bags. I just have to remember to bring them! And then, how many do I bring? If I’m shopping for a lot of things, I suppose eventually I’ll be able to gauge how many I’ll need to bring. Learning curve, don’t ya know.

[EdFNJ]

It's wonderful Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. It can only help the environment. Maybe it will only help a little but every little bit helps.

HOWEVER! With all the money they save on the bags will they reflect that in their pricing or donate it to environmental causes??? 100% NOT. So I question their altruism but support their decision.

[EdFNJ]

We find it [Publix] to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. . I'd give up my left pinky finger to get Wegman's down here! :D :D

[CFrance]

This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.
Nucky, one of the things we first noticed about using non-disposable grocery shopping bags was how much easier they are on the hands to carry out of the car into the house. And we store them in the trunk of the cars, so no storage issues in the house.

Give it a try! The hardest part was remembering to bring them out of the car into the store.

[Nucky]

I don't have a Dog, Cat, Bird, or GoldFish No Mo.

We waited for our last dog to get into position and put the Publix Plastic Bag minus any slit, slots or holes under his butt. People would occasionally skid to a stop and ask us how we trained him to do his thing in the bag. We always told them it was rough training him but somehow with time we managed. We had a whole lotta laughs about it but I don't care to much about these little things anymore. We gave up bringing in 12 cases of Aquafina a month after we saw a documentary about Plastic in the oceans and landfills on Netflix. I did my part for a while.

If things change at Publix we'll reassess the situation and adjust to something else. Besides how many things have we read on here over the years that are speculation anywho?

[Nucky]

Nucky, one of the things we first noticed about using non-disposable grocery shopping bags was how much easier they are on the hands to carry out of the car into the house. And we store them in the trunk of the cars, so no storage issues in the house.

Give it a try! The hardest part was remembering to bring them out of the car into the store.

We've got freezer bags for the frozen stuff we pick up at The Walmart Neighborhood Market when we order online. It's gotta be 8 to 10 miles from our house but prefer going there because it's a beautiful ride and the situation there feels a little better.

Can you imagine doing your shopping online and having to bring your own bag, container, etc and bag every item in the middle of a parking lot? I'm sorta thinking if Publix does it then Walmart and Winn Dixie will follow. Maybe yes maybe no. I get it CFrance but I don't like it at all. Thank you for being kind. :coolsmiley:

How much are we going to get paid for checking ourselves out at various stores. That was first, bags next, then who knows what else they have in line to take away from us or make us do?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We've got freezer bags for the frozen stuff we pick up at The Walmart Neighborhood Market when we order online. It's gotta be 8 to 10 miles from our house but prefer going there because it's a beautiful ride and the situation there feels a little better.

Can you imagine doing your shopping online and having to bring your own bag, container, etc and bag every item in the middle of a parking lot? I'm sorta thinking if Publix does it then Walmart and Winn Dixie will follow. Maybe yes maybe no. I get it CFrance but I don't like it at all. Thank you for being kind. :coolsmiley:

How much are we going to get paid for checking ourselves out at various stores. That was first, bags next, then who knows what else they have in line to take away from us or make us do?

Nah, it really isn't that bad. Also - if they're doing it the same way they did it in Connecticut, they will still have produce bags and bags for the meat department and fish department.

So if you have frozen stuff, if it's not too big a package, you can just put those things in the produce bags to keep them from getting everything wet while they're in the car.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's wonderful Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. It can only help the environment. Maybe it will only help a little but every little bit helps.

HOWEVER! With all the money they save on the bags will they reflect that in their pricing or donate it to environmental causes??? 100% NOT. So I question their altruism but support their decision.

Actually - they donate 10 cents for each of the 3 standard reusable bags to sustainability projects in the community (such as planting trees). They contribute up to $125,000 every year through proceeds of these sales.

According to their website, they've donated $355,000 since 2016, to the Arbor Day Foundation, that plants longleaf seedlings in a couple of watershed areas.

They've also been doing this reuseable bag program for 20 years, so the notion of them promoting them and not using single-use bags is nothing new for Publix.

You can read about the bags, and the donations, here:

Reusable Bags | Publix Sustainability (https://sustainability.publix.com/customer-service-desk/reusable-bags/)

and here:

Publix Reusable Bags: An Inside Look | Publix Super Market | The Publix Checkout (https://blog.publix.com/publix/publix-reusable-bags-an-inside-look/)

Lastly - considering that this second article is dated January 8, it might be that the greeter misinterpreted it and concluded erroneously that Publix was planning on doing away with single-use bags completely.

I see no news articles, and nothing on Publix website, indicating any official change in their current policy - which is to encourage and heavily promote the use and purchase of re-usable bags.

[Nucky]

Nah, it really isn't that bad. Also - if they're doing it the same way they did it in Connecticut, they will still have produce bags and bags for the meat department and fish department.

So if you have frozen stuff, if it's not too big a package, you can just put those things in the produce bags to keep them from getting everything wet while they're in the car.

Imagine doing this extra task in the parking lot of wherever you choose to pick up your grocery order and it's a storming or its about 350 degrees and your fighting for your next breath and you have to bag every item. Nope not for me. Takes all the convenience outta picking up your groceries. I don't want any extra step added to any process. It's perfect the way it is now. Leave it alone.

It's all hearsay at this point anyway but for the TOTV'S team I'll check it out with the store manager at Publix and report back tomorrow. I'll even get his or her name. :popcorn:

[retiredguy123]

I don't like it, but I could probably live with it. However, I will switch to Winn Dixie as long as they provide free plastic bags.

[Velvet]

Also how are they going to deliver the food to the house? Paper bags were made of recycled paper, they didn’t need to be fancy. The thing is I tend to shop when I feel like it or see something. I don’t even carry a purse.

[veradinatale]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

I have and always asked for paper wherever they offer paper bags.

[jswirs]

I'd give up my left pinky finger to get Wegman's down here! :D :D

Yes, we also loved Wegman's. We're from Bucks County, Pa. There was a Wegman's in Warrington.
As for the plastic bags, I'm happy to see the restrictions on them. One of my pet peeves is that so many times the person bagging would put one or two items in a plastic bag. Such a waste!
I've been bringing my own bags with me for many years now.

[yourjoy]

I use the plastic bags the newspaper comes in for poop pickup.

[nancymiller217@yahoo.com]

I remember paper bags being phased out when I was young because cockroaches and mice nest in them.

[golfing eagles]

Most of the plastic bags that come from groceries have small slits in the bottom of them. Can you imagine the look on people's faces when the poop they pick up gets all over their fingers? :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Who gives a crap?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ts12755]

Amazon needs to stop shipping in boxes stuffed with plastic bubble wrap. They are cutting trees down and destroying the sea and environment.

[elevatorman]

In Kenya the ban came in on 28 August 2017, threatening up to four years’ imprisonment or fines of $40,000 for anyone producing, selling – or even just carrying – a plastic bag.

[golfing eagles]

I use the plastic bags the newspaper comes in for poop pickup.

Yes, but the tree huggers will want to get rid of those as well. Enjoy your soggy paper!

[golfing eagles]

In Kenya the ban came in on 28 August 2017, threatening up to four years’ imprisonment or fines of $40,000 for anyone producing, selling – or even just carrying – a plastic bag.

So now we aspire to be like Kenya???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Gail Hood]

I was up north in December and not one store had a plastic bag. I walked out of Kohl's carrying my goods in my hands, I was actually laughing because we all looked so funny, no bag even offered. In the Shop Rite I brought the groceries to the car just like at Sam's. No big deal, just keep your cloth bags in your car or cart. People up north are all used to it. We will get that way too.

[Earlride]

As a single, spur of the moment, grocer shopper, this doesn't work for me, not to mention ongoing attack on trees. I will focus on Winn-Dixie and Fresh Market going forward.

[golfing eagles]

How's this for a protest idea:

Load up you cart, let them ring it up, and then ask what they are going to put the groceries into. If they say nothing, just walk away. If enough people do this, they'll change their tune, since it will be more expensive to them than using plastic bags.

[golfing eagles]

Oh, BTW, In case my previous posts give you the wrong idea about my attitude, I'm all for recycling, saving the environment, etc. I just object to someone else mandating it and shoving it down my throat. George Orwell is mumbling in his grave "I told you so"

[Up North]

I don't have a dog, but when I walked my "granddogs" I would use the plastic bags that our newspapers were delivered in. Perfect size.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Imagine doing this extra task in the parking lot of wherever you choose to pick up your grocery order and it's a storming or its about 350 degrees and your fighting for your next breath and you have to bag every item. Nope not for me. Takes all the convenience outta picking up your groceries. I don't want any extra step added to any process. It's perfect the way it is now. Leave it alone.

It's all hearsay at this point anyway but for the TOTV'S team I'll check it out with the store manager at Publix and report back tomorrow. I'll even get a his or her name. :popcorn:

Well they could just cancel the buy online pickup in store program, which is new, and make you go shopping like you probably had to as recently as a year ago.

Personally I find the concept of ordering food online to be creepy anyway. I won't ever do it. I imagine I'd get home and discover the tomatoes and pears aren't ripe enough and have to bring them back. The ice cream is halfway melted, the meat has way too much fat, they got the wrong type of paper towels (I wanted the choose-your-size not the full size!), and they're missing the pound of butter. Even if just ONE thing isn't perfect, I'd have to make a whole separate trip back to the store to correct it.

So much easier to just go to the store and do it myself. And bring my bags with me.

[CFrance]

As a single, spur of the moment, grocer shopper, this doesn't work for me, not to mention ongoing attack on trees. I will focus on Winn-Dixie and Fresh Market going forward.
Easy fix; keep a bag in your car.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Oh, BTW, In case my previous posts give you the wrong idea about my attitude, I'm all for recycling, saving the environment, etc. I just object to someone else mandating it and shoving it down my throat. George Orwell is mumbling in his grave "I told you so"

If this Publix policy is even true, they're not mandating it for you. You are absolutely welcome to buy virgin-plastic heavy-duty garbage bags that have come straight from the oil wells, using coal or deisel fuel to fire up the machines that make it, in a town where the air pollution is so bad you can see the huge gash in the ozone layer without a telescope, and then toss them in your triple-layered extra-heavy garbage bag in your garage the second you get the groceries out of them.

However, you have to bring the bags yourself. That is all. No one is saying you can't use plastic bags. They're saying you may, but Publix is not going to pay for them. That is all.

[Dave2000]

You can always use paper bags.

[prntxpresn]

Reusable bags need to be washed after each use from the contaminants that store items carry.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Reusable bags need to be washed after each use from the contaminants that store items carry.

Only the ones with foods that can contaminate things with. Plastic bag-covered breads, canned goods, paper goods - do not have to be washed after each use.

If you're buying meat, chicken, fish, produce - you can put those in the produce bags that they will continue to provide at the produce section, to keep them from contaminating the bag.

If you use cloth bags, you would want to wash them regularly anyway.

Again - this is not a "thing" in any part of the world where plastic bags are considered a premium product and not offered free at stores.

[golfing eagles]

If this Publix policy is even true, they're not mandating it for you. You are absolutely welcome to buy virgin-plastic heavy-duty garbage bags that have come straight from the oil wells, using coal or deisel fuel to fire up the machines that make it, in a town where the air pollution is so bad you can see the huge gash in the ozone layer without a telescope, and then toss them in your triple-layered extra-heavy garbage bag in your garage the second you get the groceries out of them.

However, you have to bring the bags yourself. That is all. No one is saying you can't use plastic bags. They're saying you may, but Publix is not going to pay for them. That is all.

Yes, and you are welcome to use your dirty cloth bags that you keep in the trunk of your car, that you drive to the store after filling up with gas that comes from the same oil wells, then drive it bag to your garage with the automatic door opener and light that runs on electricity from the same source. And remember all the time you are doing this, China and India are dumping millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere and laughing at us

[lem001]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!


So Publix thinks plastic bags are destroying the planet -- but they will sell them to you at 99 cents

[kbogli]

After unloading your groceries put your reusable bags on the passenger seat in the car, easier to remember to bring them in with you :)

[Deebaker]

I have been using my own grocery bags for years. They are easier to carry into the house and once i got used to it I hated using store bags when I forgot mine. 10 flimsy bags vs 2. The key is to put them back in the car🤪🤪

[Mmarr]

Sounds promising.. but remember paper bags harvest bugs.. Palmetto bugs love paper..

[Windguy]

I don’t mind bring in reusable bags. I just have to remember to bring them! And then, how many do I bring? If I’m shopping for a lot of things, I suppose eventually I’ll be able to gauge how many I’ll need to bring.

I have a large insulated bag and about seven fold-flat, heavy-duty reusable bags that I bought at Publix. I keep the reusable bags inside my insulated bag so they don’t scatter around in my trunk where I keep them and I don’t have to decide how many to bring. I’ve been using reusable bags for many years and it’s just automatic for me to get them out of the trunk before I enter the store. There have been times when I went into the store to get just a couple of things that I could hand carry, but decided I wanted some other stuff so I walked back to the car to get my bags. More steps for my Fitbit!

[valuemkt]

So far I have not used online grocery shopping. The majority of my shopping today is Publix. I probably average 10 or 12 bags per visit. I doubt I will buy or remember to bring that many bags. or keep that many in two cars etc etc. At 99c per bag and an average of 10 bags per visit, thats an extra 10 bucks. Delivery to my door will cost less than that, eliminate impulse buys and of course save me time. Wonder how all those groceries will be packaged for home delivery ? Cardboard boxes ? Maybe Publix will have to make them available at checkout like Costco does .. This should get interesting.

[Sharfrfla]

I agree with you. Publix is working just fine as it is. If it is not broken don’t fix it. Winn-Dixie has bags and hopefully they’ll continue. The only reason I shop at Aldi’s and like it is because the prices are excellent so therefore bringing bags is fine.

[Brwne]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

We don't throw plastic bags away, after the groceries are put away, they go into a cloth tube and are available to contain wet, leaky refuse. They also work in the garbage can under the sink, eliminating the need to buy bigger, thicker plastic garbage bags. For those with pets, they are easy to carry for the daily "nature walks".

Paper bags will work for some of these activities and the fabric-based reusable bags will not. This brings to mind a question - what are those reusable fabric bags made of?

[EdFNJ]

Actually - they donate 10 cents for each of the 3 standard reusable bags to sustainability projects in the community (such as planting trees). They contribute up to $125,000 every year through proceeds of these sales.
So they donate 10cents for every THREE they SELL for $1.00+ each ? So 10c on a $3.00+ sale for an item that cost them likely under 10cents landed for each one. That's better than nothing but falls far below the amount they will save by not purchasing any more plastic bags then SELLING the reusable bags.

Again, I applaud their contribution to the local environment but I can assure you the altruism is based on profits. Not that it shouldn't be, but still it's all for the bottom line and advertising purposes.

[EdFNJ]

However, you have to bring the bags yourself. That is all. No one is saying you can't use plastic bags. They're saying you may, but Publix is not going to pay for them. That is all. And that's the point, the fake altruism they "sell." It's all about the benjamins.

[theruizs]

We started using the reusable bags about 3 months ago. It was surprising how quickly we got used to it. Change may not always be easy, but in this case I think it is worth the effort.

[BostonRich]

Yeah paper bags are great until it rains. Try putting a paper bag down on the ground for a few seconds when the ground is wet. Everything is going to fall out.

Also, I have to agreed that Wegman's is the absolute best supermarket out there. Miss those 39 cent bananas!

[Two Bills]

Yes, and you are welcome to use your dirty cloth bags that you keep in the trunk of your car, that you drive to the store after filling up with gas that comes from the same oil wells, then drive it bag to your garage with the automatic door opener and light that runs on electricity from the same source. And remember all the time you are doing this, China and India are dumping millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere and laughing at us

The USA is the second worse polluter after China, so who is laughing at who?

[ColdNoMore]

I don't have a dog, but when I walked my "granddogs" I would use the plastic bags that our newspapers were delivered in. Perfect size.

Yep. :thumbup:

I used to go to my local paper's printing press warehouse and they would sell the bags they use to wrap their papers in...by the box (+-200?).

They work perfectly, as they are the correct size and you can easily turn them inside out, with them being long enough to easily tie...after doing your civic duty of picking up your pet's poop.

[Bonnevie]

I was surprised when I moved here 6 years ago at the number of people who didn't bring their own bags. It had become the norm in my old Florida community.

My son used to work at Albertson's and they offered five cents off if you brought your own bags---and that paltry amount was enough to get people to do it. Someone pointed out, people have no problems doing it at Aldi and Sam'. In England and Ireland on my last trip you had to pay if you wanted a plastic bag.

and if everyone doesn't start becoming a "tree hugger" soon, then our children and grandchildren will pay for it. Even if you re-use them, they are still bad for the environment. You can buy biodegradable poop bags for for less than one cent.

I don't think it's too much to ask. and while they are at it, Publix should go to the same system as Aldi's for cart returns. It only takes 25 cents to get people to bring back a cart.


Americans use 100 billion plastic bags a year, which require 12 million barrels of oil to manufacture.

It only takes about 14 plastic bags for the equivalent of the gas required to drive one mile.

The average American family takes home almost 1,500 plastic shopping bags a year.

According to Waste Management, only 1 percent of plastic bags are returned for recycling. That means that the average family only recycles 15 bags a year; the rest end up in landfills or as litter.

Up to 80 percent of ocean plastic pollution enters the ocean from land.

At least 267 different species have been affected by plastic pollution in the ocean.
100,000 marine animals are killed by plastic bags annually.

One in three leatherback sea turtles have been found with plastic in their stomachs.

Plastic bags are used for an average of 12 minutes

It takes 500 (or more) years for a plastic bag to degrade in a landfill. Unfortunately the bags don't break down completely but instead photo-degrade, becoming microplastics that absorb toxins and continue to pollute the environment.

[graciegirl]

And that's the point, the fake altruism they "sell." It's all about the benjamins.

I think that this has been coming. I didn't know that some areas had businesses already doing it. I am not a greenie, but I think this is a good decision. We really do use too many one use plastics and that does damage and clog things. Most of us lived for years without those plastic bags and we managed.

[Brynnie]

[QUOTE=CFrance;1710934]Nucky, one of the things we first noticed about using non-disposable grocery shopping bags was how much easier they are on the hands to carry out of the car into the house. And we store them in the trunk of the cars, so no storage issues in the house.


My solution is to keep the cloth bags on the back seat of my car, where I can see them easily. That reminds me to bring them into the store. Works for me!

[golfing eagles]

The USA is the second worse polluter after China, so who is laughing at who?

Maybe, but we are also over 25% of the world's total economy. Yes, Luxembourg generates less pollution than the US :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

I was surprised when I moved here 6 years ago at the number of people who didn't bring their own bags. It had become the norm in my old Florida community.

My son used to work at Albertson's and they offered five cents off if you brought your own bags---and that paltry amount was enough to get people to do it. Someone pointed out, people have no problems doing it at Aldi and Sam'. In England and Ireland on my last trip you had to pay if you wanted a plastic bag.

and if everyone doesn't start becoming a "tree hugger" soon, then our children and grandchildren will pay for it. Even if you re-use them, they are still bad for the environment. You can buy biodegradable poop bags for for less than one cent.

I don't think it's too much to ask. and while they are at it, Publix should go to the same system as Aldi's for cart returns. It only takes 25 cents to get people to bring back a cart.

Americans use 100 billion plastic bags a year, which require 12 million barrels of oil to manufacture.

It only takes about 14 plastic bags for the equivalent of the gas required to drive one mile.

The average American family takes home almost 1,500 plastic shopping bags a year.

According to Waste Management, only 1 percent of plastic bags are returned for recycling. That means that the average family only recycles 15 bags a year; the rest end up in landfills or as litter.

Up to 80 percent of ocean plastic pollution enters the ocean from land.

At least 267 different species have been affected by plastic pollution in the ocean.
100,000 marine animals are killed by plastic bags annually.

One in three leatherback sea turtles have been found with plastic in their stomachs.

Plastic bags are used for an average of 12 minutes

It takes 500 (or more) years for a plastic bag to degrade in a landfill. Unfortunately the bags don't break down completely but instead photo-degrade, becoming microplastics that absorb toxins and continue to pollute the environment.

But, but, but, my "right" not to be inconvenienced or have to worry about this rock we live on after I'm gone...takes precedence. (insert facetious emoji here) :ohdear:

BTW - Excellent post! :boom:

[Parker]

I don't like change. I don't like that plastic bags won't be available anymore. I don't like that the choice isn't mine to make. I don't like anything about this. But I DO think reduced plastic usage is a GOOD thing and I'll (grudgingly) accept it.

[ColdNoMore]

......and silly old me thought dinosaurs were extinct!

:thumbup:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We don't throw plastic bags away, after the groceries are put away, they go into a cloth tube and are available to contain wet, leaky refuse. They also work in the garbage can under the sink, eliminating the need to buy bigger, thicker plastic garbage bags. For those with pets, they are easy to carry for the daily "nature walks".

Paper bags will work for some of these activities and the fabric-based reusable bags will not. This brings to mind a question - what are those reusable fabric bags made of?

Most of them are made with recycled plastic. Some are made with cotton, or cotton/synthetic blend. You can buy some higher-end ones made from bamboo fiber, and there's a grass-roots organization that promotes ones made from banana fiber in Jamaica. You can also make your own out of duct tape and an old tee-shirt.

[Two Bills]

"Change" means being forced to do something you don't like, from something that wasn't offensive in the first place. If you liked what you were being force to "change" to, you wouldn't have to be forced to do it.

Isn't eco-pagan bullying wonderful?

I know all about that.

I was forced to change nappies when my kids were small, just never realised my wife was an "eco-pagan bully!"

[Mumbles]

Paper bags please. Loved them for many purposes.
I remember shopping in Europe and they offered no bags at all, so I only bought what fit in my hand.

When I lived in Europe for 13 years--in the 80s and 90s-- for the most part the citizenry did NOT have large refrigerators, so they shopped nearly every day. Of course, that was a hassle for us Americans because we didn't like going to market every day. However, cloth bags were plentiful and cheap. That's how I did it back then. "When in Rome..." Now, I bring my two large zip-top Sam's/Costco bags with me and which do the trick.

[Back9]

But, but, but, my "right" not to be inconvenienced or have to worry about this rock we live on after I'm gone...takes precedence. (insert facetious emoji here) :ohdear:

BTW - Excellent post! :boom:


No, the hardship you want imposed on everyone else is based on trivia and fear-crazed superstition.

Plastic is harmless when dumped in a landfill ("disposed of properly"). It's only a problem when people litter. Making the 95% of the people who dispose properly suffer because of the 5% who litter is aggressive agenda on your part -- eco-bullying , superstition-crazed, and power hungry.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So they donate 10cents for every THREE they SELL for $1.00+ each ? So 10c on a $3.00+ sale for an item that cost them likely under 10cents landed for each one. That's better than nothing but falls far below the amount they will save by not purchasing any more plastic bags then SELLING the reusable bags.

Again, I applaud their contribution to the local environment but I can assure you the altruism is based on profits. Not that it shouldn't be, but still it's all for the bottom line and advertising purposes.

Read more slowly. I said 10 cents for each of 3. Not ten cents for every three. Would it have been more clear if I had said 10 cents for each one? Except that wouldn't be true, because they sell many different styles. But of all the styles they sell, only three styles are included in the promotion of donations. So if you buy one of those included styles, 10 cents is donated. If you buy one of 2 of those styles, 20 cents is donated. If you buy one of each of those 3 styles, 30 cents is donated.

[ldj1938]

Who gives a crap?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

https://4ocean.com/?msclkid=cd9c4cf4a0671ca87f7b12d162299185&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5BB%5D%20Core%20-%20USA%20-%20Exact%20-%20Desktop&utm_term=4ocea&utm_content=Typos%20-%204%20Ocean

You obviously don't. BTW having lived in south Florida I know that cockroaches absolutely love the glue in paper bags. Being a scuba diver it is unbelievable the amount of plastic in the ocean. Watch the 4ocean video.

[Bonnevie]

'
Plastic is harmless when dumped in a landfill ("disposed of properly"). obviously, did not read why plastic bags are bad, so once again....

It takes 500 (or more) years for a plastic bag to degrade in a landfill. Unfortunately the bags don't break down completely but instead photo-degrade, becoming microplastics that absorb toxins and continue to pollute the environment.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yes, and you are welcome to use your dirty cloth bags that you keep in the trunk of your car, that you drive to the store after filling up with gas that comes from the same oil wells, then drive it bag to your garage with the automatic door opener and light that runs on electricity from the same source. And remember all the time you are doing this, China and India are dumping millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere and laughing at us

Hyperbole much? As I posted already - cloth bags are washable. I usually take the golf cart to the supermarket, which means I use less than a single gallon of gas monthly to do my grocery shopping. I also don't have a garage.

And China is dumping less now that they've refused to take OUR trash. You did notice there aren't any landfills near The Villages, didn't you? Did you ever think to wonder why not? The answer: it was being transported to China, and to Georgia. China is no longer an option and Georgia is getting full.

It will either have to go somewhere else, or we'll have to stop producing so much in the first place.

If it goes somewhere else, it will cost "bigly" to we, the homeowners and taxpayers.

If we reuse more, discard less, we can reduce the cost of the increase. If you don't mind paying the extra, then please give me your address so I know where to send the bill for -my- trash pickup.

Thanks.

[Sharon Dent]

This is great news! I stopped using single use plastic bags a long time ago. I save bags from products, such as the plastic bag inside a cereal box, the plastic bag that tortillas come in, bread bags… and I use those for scooping kitty litter. I know it seems daunting, but buying plastic bags to scoop your pet’s waste defeats the purpose. Congrats to Publix for demonstrating the need to take action. 😘

[Back9]

Hyperbole much? As I posted already - cloth bags are washable. I usually take the golf cart to the supermarket, which means I use less than a single gallon of gas monthly to do my grocery shopping. I also don't have a garage.

And China is dumping less now that they've refused to take OUR trash. You did notice there aren't any landfills near The Villages, didn't you? Did you ever think to wonder why not? The answer: it was being transported to China, and to Georgia. China is no longer an option and Georgia is getting full.

It will either have to go somewhere else, or we'll have to stop producing so much in the first place.

If it goes somewhere else, it will cost "bigly" to we, the homeowners and taxpayers.

If we reuse more, discard less, we can reduce the cost of the increase. If you don't mind paying the extra, then please give me your address so I know where to send the bill for -my- trash pickup.

Thanks.


The simple COUNTY DUMP was turned into an expensive boondoggle by recycling fanatics with too much time on their hands and nothing better to do except make other people's lives miserable, all under the stupid banner of "sustainability".

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

But, but , but what about all the tree that will be cut down to make paper bags.

[lizbell]

The cloth bags fit so neatly in the trunk compared to rather sloppy plastic bags. I've been told at checkout in Walmart that they will soon be discontinuing their plastic bags too. I really miss using them for kitchen garbage bags. Am now using 100% compostable kitchen garbage bags from Amazon.

[Travelingal702]

HOORAY!!! Publix has finally joined the effort to save the planet, our oceans, our wildlife, our environment. Hopefully, Winn-Dixie will get on board as well. I have been an advocate of "no plastic bags" for years. Yes, I take reusable bags with me when I shop. I CARE!!

[Bjeanj]

Just read an interesting article this morning about the plastic bag issue:
Plastic bags have lobbyists. They're winning. - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/20/plastic-bags-have-lobbyists-winning-100587)

According to this, Florida is one of the states that does not allow local government passing plastic bag restrictions.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The cloth bags fit so neatly in the trunk compared to rather sloppy plastic bags. I've been told at checkout in Walmart that they will soon be discontinuing their plastic bags too. I really miss using them for kitchen garbage bags. Am now using 100% compostable kitchen garbage bags from Amazon.

Unfortunately most landfills don't reach a high enough temperature to degrade compostable garbage bags, so they end up not turning to compost and take up the exact same amount of space.

Personally, I feel that disposable diapers (baby and adult) should also be discouraged, for the same reason - they don't break down in landfills and there isn't infinite room on the planet for an infinite future of plastic disposal.

At some point, all this plastic is going to have to end up SOMEWHERE - and there won't be room at the current landfills. I wonder how folks in the Villages will feel if the towns that TV is located in, all decide to allocate some of their real estate to build new landfills. Not in my back yard? Woops - not your decision to make. If you don't want a trash dump upwind of your house in the next 20 years, then encourage everyone to reduce their waste. At least then it might be 30 years, or if you're lucky, you'll be dead of old age before you ever have to care about it.

[Back9]

https://4ocean.com/?msclkid=cd9c4cf4a0671ca87f7b12d162299185&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5BB%5D%20Core%20-%20USA%20-%20Exact%20-%20Desktop&utm_term=4ocea&utm_content=Typos%20-%204%20Ocean

You obviously don't. BTW having lived in south Florida I know that cockroaches absolutely love the glue in paper bags. Being a scuba diver it is unbelievable the amount of plastic in the ocean. Watch the 4ocean video.



"Ocean plastic" is another name for litter, i.e. it's not PLASTIC that's the problem, but the slobs who do the littering (and whole 3rd-world sh*thole countries that are slovenly in their waste disposal).

[graciegirl]

There are some among us who could pick a fight with Mother Teresa.

We all did far more years ago to be careful and saving and sparse in order to save money and that worked out well for all of us. It wrankles me when the greenies get in full cry, but what is worse is them thinking that MOST of us are NOT very aware of climate change. I just hate the marching and spending money on foolishness that in many cases will not change anything without full participation of all occupants of the world.

AND it is industrialization that is to both blame and thank for much of the pollution. The same industrialization that has halved poverty and hunger in the last thirty years.

Things are not solvable with foolish rhetoric and making other people mad and talking down to them. And some things in this day and time are just not solvable. Trying not to use one use plastic is a little bit of doing something that might help a little bit. It can't hurt.

[Back9]

Unfortunately most landfills don't reach a high enough temperature to degrade compostable garbage bags, so they end up not turning to compost and take up the exact same amount of space.

Personally, I feel that disposable diapers (baby and adult) should also be discouraged, for the same reason - they don't break down in landfills and there isn't infinite room on the planet for an infinite future of plastic disposal.

At some point, all this plastic is going to have to end up SOMEWHERE - and there won't be room at the current landfills. I wonder how folks in the Villages will feel if the towns that TV is located in, all decide to allocate some of their real estate to build new landfills. Not in my back yard? Woops - not your decision to make. If you don't want a trash dump upwind of your house in the next 20 years, then encourage everyone to reduce their waste. At least then it might be 30 years, or if you're lucky, you'll be dead of old age before you ever have to care about it.


Not enough room at the county dump? Ridiculous. This is another out-of-proportion scare tactic, pure and simple.

And government utility empire builders love to make a big deal out of trash --- more money, more staff, more power. And we are the idiots who fall for it.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

This is great news! I stopped using single use plastic bags a long time ago. I save bags from products, such as the plastic bag inside a cereal box, the plastic bag that tortillas come in, bread bags… and I use those for scooping kitty litter. I know it seems daunting, but buying plastic bags to scoop your pet’s waste defeats the purpose. Congrats to Publix for demonstrating the need to take action. 😘

I scoop my cat box every day. I don't consume enough bagged food to provide me with a bag every day to do that.

I definitely don't want to buy more plastic bags JUST to scoop the litter box. I also loathe the idea of buying plastic bags that I use JUST to put in the bathroom waste bin. I can use paper bags to scoop the litter box but again - that would be single-use, and that's much more wasteful to me than re-using something I already had. That's why I like knowing that plastic bags at the supermarket are available. I don't always get them. I keep it limited, and I saved a bunch of them when I was living up north and brought them down with me instead of throwing them away - JUST so I could re-use them for the waste bins and kitty litter.

I bring a thermal insulated bag and at least one cloth bag with me to the supermarket currently. If I buy more groceries than I can fit in those two bags, I use the plastic they provide. I get to do my part, and not waste resources by buying new for the purpose of throwing away. I also buy garbage bags that are made from recycled plastic.

[PugMom]

This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.
while many consider these bags harmful, i find them very useful in daily life. now i'll just have to go buy those small plastic bags they make for wastepaper baskets.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Not enough room at the county dump? Ridiculous. This is another out-of-proportion scare tactic, pure and simple.

And government utility empire builders love to make a big deal out of trash --- more money, more staff, more power. And we are the idiots who fall for it.

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Town landfills have closed all over the country, over the past 4 or 5 decades. The town I lived in before I moved here closed their landfill down over 20 years ago. It was full. There was no way to expand it because a river ran on one side of it and a town road ran on the other side of it. There was no equipment to make it higher. So it was closed down, allowed to weed over and compost itself. Trees started growing on it, bushes and brush and weeds. Eventually they cleared off a portion of it and installed solar panels - which now provide the energy for most of the municipal buildings in the town.

But you do you.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

while many consider these bags harmful, i find them very useful in daily life. now i'll just have to go buy those small plastic bags they make for wastepaper baskets.

Both of these things can be true. The bags are harmful. They also are useful in daily life. Therein lies the quandry. So - rather than eliminate, it's on the shoulders of the consumer to reduce as much as they can, without hardship.

[Back9]

There are some among us who could pick a fight with Mother Teresa.

We all did far more years ago to be careful and saving and sparse in order to save money and that worked out well for all of us. It wrankles me when the greenies get in full cry, but what is worse is them thinking that MOST of us are NOT very aware of climate change. I just hate the marching and spending money on foolishness that in many cases will not change anything without full participation of all occupants of the world.

AND it is industrialization that is to both blame and thank for much of the pollution. The same industrialization that has halved poverty and hunger in the last thirty years.

Things are not solvable with foolish rhetoric and making other people mad and talking down to them. And some things in this day and time are just not solvable. Trying not to use one use plastic is a little bit of doing something that might help a little bit. It can't hurt.


There's no problem here, except littering. Villagers have it so good, with so much time on their hands, they need something to justify their existence. When all the while their wasting their time on this non-issue, and trying to make everyone's life worse off.

"Go ahead and use your cloth shopping bags! Just don't try to impose it on the rest of us."

[PugMom]

Nah, it really isn't that bad. Also - if they're doing it the same way they did it in Connecticut, they will still have produce bags and bags for the meat department and fish department.

So if you have frozen stuff, if it's not too big a package, you can just put those things in the produce bags to keep them from getting everything wet while they're in the car.
too funny, that's exactly what this ex-Conn. did/does

[ColdNoMore]

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Town landfills have closed all over the country, over the past 4 or 5 decades. The town I lived in before I moved here closed their landfill down over 20 years ago. It was full. There was no way to expand it because a river ran on one side of it and a town road ran on the other side of it. There was no equipment to make it higher. So it was closed down, allowed to weed over and compost itself. Trees started growing on it, bushes and brush and weeds. Eventually they cleared off a portion of it and installed solar panels - which now provide the energy for most of the municipal buildings in the town.

But you do you.

YEP...exactly! :oops:

[Back9]

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Town landfills have closed all over the country, over the past 4 or 5 decades. The town I lived in before I moved here closed their landfill down over 20 years ago. It was full. There was no way to expand it because a river ran on one side of it and a town road ran on the other side of it. There was no equipment to make it higher. So it was closed down, allowed to weed over and compost itself. Trees started growing on it, bushes and brush and weeds. Eventually they cleared off a portion of it and installed solar panels - which now provide the energy for most of the municipal buildings in the town.

But you do you.


In other words, the town fathers have made a mountain out of a mole hill. They couldn't get more land? "Imminent domain"? No... it's become fanaticism for cleanliness, and a government created problem.

[MollyJo]

In Florida, residential recycling does not allow grocery store bags. I found this out when I Googled if grocery bags are accepted as recycles in Florida after my brother-in-law told me plastic bags are not accepted in residential neighborhoods. I have always dropped off my plastic grocery bags in the bins in front of Publix or the bins at Winn Dixie. I thought those grocery bags were being recycled. Does anyone know what the grocery stores do with those plastic bags?
When I see a grocery store that has a bin for recycling plastic bags, I help myself to a couple of bundles to reuse for picking up dog doo. They are so nice bc they have handles. A ‘used’ paper towel recycled for this purpose takes care of any small holes in the bag... fold paper towel in half, place your hand inside plastic bag & place paper towel over poo, pickup everything as you turn bag inside out & tie, using handles to carry. I will miss the grocery bags...

[golfing eagles]

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You obviously don't. BTW having lived in south Florida I know that cockroaches absolutely love the glue in paper bags. Being a scuba diver it is unbelievable the amount of plastic in the ocean. Watch the 4ocean video.

Oh, BTW, In case my previous posts give you the wrong idea about my attitude, I'm all for recycling, saving the environment, etc. I just object to someone else mandating it and shoving it down my throat. George Orwell is mumbling in his grave "I told you so"

I think you might have lost my meaning. The "who gives a crap" was facetious in response to the person commenting on using slitted bags to pick up dog poop. The other quote should be self-explanatory.

[golfing eagles]

Most of them are made with recycled plastic. Some are made with cotton, or cotton/synthetic blend. You can buy some higher-end ones made from bamboo fiber, and there's a grass-roots organization that promotes ones made from banana fiber in Jamaica. You can also make your own out of duct tape and an old tee-shirt.

It's almost terrifying that you know this:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think you might have lost my meaning. The "who gives a crap" was facetious in response to the person commenting on using slitting bags to pick up dog poop. The other quote should be self-explanatory.

Are you okay with mandating that people must stop at stop signs? Your tax dollars paid for those roads, surely you have the right to do with them as you see fit. What about paying for things at the store rather than just walking out?

You don't mind the mandate that you're not allowed to grow you grass more than 4 inches right? How about the mandate that you have to pay income tax, if you have an income? What about paying your bills on time? They're YOUR bills, you should be able to pay them whenever you like, right?

Or - are you accepting that sometimes, people have to be forced to do unpleasant things, because otherwise they might refuse to do them - and civilization might suffer if we just let everyone do what they wanted, and not do what they didn't want, cause they wanna, or they don't wanna?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's almost terrifying that you know this:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

At craft shows in New England there are actually crafters who use craft-tape (it's basically duct tape with fancy designs and colors) to make wallets, pocketbooks, bookcovers, keychains, and yes - re-useable, washable bags. There's one couple who gets those HUGE plastic/fiber dog food bags from farm stores, and turns those into whimsical totes. They're incredibly popular!

New England is fairly well known for pragmatism. Especially those of us who lived through the Recession, or whose families came during or just before the Depression, or whose jobs were eliminated and we had families to feed. We made do with what we had, and re-used, and proved "necessity is the mother of invention."

[golfing eagles]

Are you okay with mandating that people must stop at stop signs? Your tax dollars paid for those roads, surely you have the right to do with them as you see fit. What about paying for things at the store rather than just walking out?

You don't mind the mandate that you're not allowed to grow you grass more than 4 inches right? How about the mandate that you have to pay income tax, if you have an income? What about paying your bills on time? They're YOUR bills, you should be able to pay them whenever you like, right?

Or - are you accepting that sometimes, people have to be forced to do unpleasant things, because otherwise they might refuse to do them - and civilization might suffer if we just let everyone do what they wanted, and not do what they didn't want, cause they wanna, or they don't wanna?

You can't seriously believe these things are equitable?
Seriously????
Traffic control, shoplifting, and income tax evasion all have known and relatively immediate consequences. Burying non-biodegradable plastic in a landfill somewhere has highly debatable and theoretical consequences. Earth will go on long after we are extinct.

[ColdNoMore]

Snip>>> Earth will go on long after we are extinct.

Yeah...what he said. ^^^


Just like Mars.



:1rotfl:

[sweethomeru]

So glad to hear!!!

[njbchbum]

If this Publix policy is even true, they're not mandating it for you. You are absolutely welcome to buy virgin-plastic heavy-duty garbage bags that have come straight from the oil wells, using coal or deisel fuel to fire up the machines that make it, in a town where the air pollution is so bad you can see the huge gash in the ozone layer without a telescope, and then toss them in your triple-layered extra-heavy garbage bag in your garage the second you get the groceries out of them.

However, you have to bring the bags yourself. That is all. No one is saying you can't use plastic bags. They're saying you may, but Publix is not going to pay for them. That is all.

Have no fear - the hole in the ozone layer is closing! hole in the ozone layer is closing - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=hole+in+the+ozone+layer+is+closing&search=&form=QBLH)

[ColdNoMore]

Have no fear - the hole in the ozone layer is closing! hole in the ozone layer is closing - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=hole+in+the+ozone+layer+is+closing&search=&form=QBLH)

Statement in the first link on the page...

...but its repair could actually increase warming in the southern hemisphere, according to scientists at the University of Leeds.


I personally find it advantageous and intellectually stimulating...to actually read past just the headlines.

But maybe... that's just me? :shrug:

[llmcdaniel]

The University of Arizona and Loma Linda University have both studied the cloth bag issue and have discovered ecoli and salmonella bacteria in them. If using canvas bags, throw them in the washing machine often and use hot water with detergent. Dry in the dryer. If using insulated bags for your meat, clean EVERY SINGLE TIME with anti-bacteria wipes. Many people are too lazy to follow these precautions, and medical schools fear there will be a big spike in illnesses as plastic bags are phased out. Be careful!!!!

[Velvet]

I love trees and I don’t see a problem. Cutting down trees won’t be a problem if you plant tree farms for the purpose of producing paper. Also I mentioned they use recycled paper for store bags. I like to use hygienic bags for food, one use only. I have other uses for paper bags and have missed them ever since they introduced plastic.

[golfing eagles]

I love trees and I don’t see a problem. Cutting down trees won’t be a problem if you plant tree farms for the purpose of producing paper. Also I mentioned they use recycled paper for store bags. I like to use hygienic bags for food, one use only. I have other uses for paper bags and have missed them ever since they introduced plastic.

Oh, please. Don't confuse the eco-warriors with the facts, it destroys their psyche:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Back9]

Have no fear - the hole in the ozone layer is closing! hole in the ozone layer is closing - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=hole+in+the+ozone+layer+is+closing&search=&form=QBLH)


"Ozone" -- the warmup act for the quackery of global warming.

A hideous example of government-by-news-cycle.


The Ozone Scam - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Szs-treHwQ)


And this is very pertinent to Floridians with Air Conditioning -- the phasing out of efficient refrigerants is a monumental screwing of the AC consumer.


["Satellites DISCOVER hole in ozone layer!" Discover? How do you know it wasn't there all along? (notice that it only appears in the southern hemisphere, where topography is different from the north...) ]

[OhioBuckeye]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

We were in California & everybody there charges $0.5 or $0.10 a bag, all retail stores & grocery stores!

[graciegirl]

We were in California & everybody there charges $0.5 or $0.10 a bag, all retail stores & grocery stores!

I understand that toilet paper will be phased out and folks are being encouraged to eat corn on the cob and return the empty dried cob to a recycling center outside all grocery stores.

[Back9]

"Ozone" -- the warmup act for the quackery of global warming.

A hideous example of government-by-news-cycle.


The Ozone Scam - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Szs-treHwQ)


And this is very pertinent to Floridians with Air Conditioning -- the phasing out of efficient refrigerants is a monumental screwing of the AC consumer.


["Satellites DISCOVER hole in ozone layer!" Discover? How do you know it wasn't there all along? (notice that it only appears in the southern hemisphere, where topography is different from the north...) ]


BTW -- all those CAPACITORS that keep blowing on you condenser unit? That's a function of the stupid ban on PCBs. It was the best material for the purpose, till a far-fetched "cancer" issue was raised.

"Dust is carcinogenic -- henceforth you must all wear breathing apparatuses."

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We were in California & everybody there charges $0.5 or $0.10 a bag, all retail stores & grocery stores!

Same in Connecticut. It's 10 cents/bag, or you can buy a re-useable one for 99 cents. Or you can bring your own bag, buy a box on Amazon (which I mentioned already). Stores like Aldi and the big box places receive their product in bulk boxes. They put the whole box right on the shelf but once it's empty, they let the customers take them instead of throwing them away. Re-use. Plus in boxes, things don't shift around as much. Even better, these boxes sometimes are waxed, for produce and other products that can get wet. So you can put your ice cream tub right in the box, and everything is hunky dory, and it doesn't cost a penny extra.

[bwtbrisbane]

Wonder what happens when you go to check out and realize you forgot your bags?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Wonder what happens when you go to check out and realize you forgot your bags?

In stores that have implemented this (like Aldi's for example), you can buy a bag. Aldi's has a variety of bags, paper, plastic, and re-useable, ranging from 8 cents each to $2 for the re-useables.

There are thousands of stores nationwide that have been doing this for years. In fact, Publix has been promoting and selling re-useables for 20 years. And millions of customers nationwide already use them.

[Boomer]

How's this for a protest idea:

Load up you cart, let them ring it up, and then ask what they are going to put the groceries into. If they say nothing, just walk away. If enough people do this, they'll change their tune, since it will be more expensive to them than using plastic bags.


I have no problem with Publix encouraging us to do our part.

Also, I respect the fact that Publix provides an ESOP for their workers. (Just imagine if Walmart workers were able to profit-share as an across-the-board employee benefit. — If Walmart were to have done so, not only would the benefit have been monetary, it also would have carried tremendous educational value by giving the opportunity for workers to learn about investing for the future — and in many cases, first-generation stockholders.)

Now, back to the quote above: I take issue with such a plan. Why would someone want to take things out on the frontline workers? If you don’t like it, make a picket sign and walk around in front of the store — whatever, if that happys you up. But a plan to make the workday more difficult for those just doing their jobs — from positions that are powerless — is a plan that if carried out would be condescending, elitist, and just plain wrong.

[ColdNoMore]

I have no problem with publix encouraging us to do our part.

Also, I respect the fact that publix provides an esop for their workers. (just imagine if walmart workers were able to profit-share as an across-the-board employee benefit. — if walmart were to have done so, not only would the benefit have been monetary, it also would have carried tremendous educational value by giving the opportunity for workers to learn about investing for the future — and in many cases, first-generation stockholders.)

Now, back to the quote above: I take issue with such a plan. Why would someone want to take things out on the frontline workers? If you don’t like it, make a picket sign and walk around in front of the store — whatever, if that happys you up. But a plan to make the workday more difficult for those just doing their jobs — from positions that are powerless — is a plan that if carried out would be condescending, elitist, and just plain wrong.

Bingo! :thumbup:

[golfing eagles]

Now, back to the quote above: I take issue with such a plan. Why would someone want to take things out on the frontline workers? If you don’t like it, make a picket sign and walk around in front of the store — whatever, if that happys you up. But a plan to make the workday more difficult for those just doing their jobs — from positions that are powerless — is a plan that if carried out would be condescending, elitist, and just plain wrong.

Maybe, but it would get the point across in a hurry. The workers are paid by the hour, so it really doesn't matter WHAT work they are doing. But the lost revenue will impact the store and hopefully the policymakers. I'm not against using cloth bags, I'm just opposed to having some entity shove them down my throat. That goes for Publix, the government, the radical left and the religious right.

PS. I've been using reusable bags for several years, but when something is wet/leaky I have them put it in plastic, same is true if I forget my bags. This isn't about what they want to do, it's about how they are going to do it.

[ColdNoMore]

Maybe, but it would get the point across in a hurry. The workers are paid by the hour, so it really doesn't matter WHAT work they are doing. But the lost revenue will impact the store and hopefully the policymakers. I'm not against using cloth bags, I'm just opposed to having some entity shove them down my throat. That goes for Publix, the government, the radical left and the religious right.

PS. I've been using reusable bags for several years, but when something is wet/leaky I have them put it in plastic, same is true if I forget my bags. This isn't about what they want to do, it's about how they are going to do it.

Just for an historical perspective, many used that same argument when "the government" started mandating...minimum average fuel mileage on auto manufacturers.

And restrictions on various allowances of industry land/air/water pollution (which seems to be quickly slipping away).

Were you opposed to those also?

[rmd2]

Actually - they donate 10 cents for each of the 3 standard reusable bags to sustainability projects in the community (such as planting trees). They contribute up to $125,000 every year through proceeds of these sales.

According to their website, they've donated $355,000 since 2016, to the Arbor Day Foundation, that plants longleaf seedlings in a couple of watershed areas.

They've also been doing this reuseable bag program for 20 years, so the notion of them promoting them and not using single-use bags is nothing new for Publix.

You can read about the bags, and the donations, here:

Reusable Bags | Publix Sustainability (https://sustainability.publix.com/customer-service-desk/reusable-bags/)

and here:

Publix Reusable Bags: An Inside Look | Publix Super Market | The Publix Checkout (https://blog.publix.com/publix/publix-reusable-bags-an-inside-look/)

Lastly - considering that this second article is dated January 8, it might be that the greeter misinterpreted it and concluded erroneously that Publix was planning on doing away with single-use bags completely.

I see no news articles, and nothing on Publix website, indicating any official change in their current policy - which is to encourage and heavily promote the use and purchase of re-usable bags.

I asked a Publix (on 466) employee last week about this and they said Publix is NOT getting rid of the plastic bags. I hope this is true. I use them for my groceries and then for many other uses in my house.

[golfing eagles]

Just for an historical perspective, many used that same argument when "the government" started mandating...minimum average fuel mileage on auto manufacturers.

And restrictions on various allowances of industry land/air/water pollution (which seems to be quickly slipping away).

Were you opposed to those also?

fuel mileage----absolutely opposed---none of the governments business if I want to buy a gas guzzling vehicle, I pay for the gas.

Limitation on pollution----in favor, within limits. The EPA does not need to be regulating a puddle on a ranch in Texas

[lovsthosebigdogs]

My son is in his 40s now, but when he was young I used to try to bring a bag of my own to the grocery store and they would flip out and not let me do it. They said I could be bringing in bugs or whatever and it wasn't sanitary. My kids were so embarrassed that I was the weirdo that was bringing a bag when no one else was. I was also trying to pick up litter way before my time. Guess the world has finally caught up with me. I think it's a great idea. I hate all the waste and store bags are so flimsly they frequently break before you can reuse them more than once.

[CWGUY]

I understand that toilet paper will be phased out and folks are being encouraged to eat corn on the cob and return the empty dried cob to a recycling center outside all grocery stores.

:rolleyes: Boy Howdy I hope not! Coffee filters hurt. And while I'm at it..... anyone got 2 5's for a 10? :laugh:

[ColdNoMore]

fuel mileage----absolutely opposed---none of the governments business if I want to buy a gas guzzling vehicle, I pay for the gas.

Limitation on pollution----in favor, within limits. The EPA does not need to be regulating a puddle on a ranch in Texas

I guess you are unaware then, that one of the main goals of the mileage legislation wasn't just to save you money on fuel...it was also to reduce pollution.

[newyorkmaya]

Reusable bags are he way to go. It is said (in Northern AZ) that the Navajo national flower is the Blue plastic bag stuck on tree branches. I have also seen this wherever there is a landfill, open dump or transfer station, or where there is poor trash pick-up.

Please, reuse, reduce and recycle.

[golfing eagles]

I guess you are unaware then, that one of the main goals of the mileage legislation wasn't just to save you money on fuel...it was also to reduce pollution.

No, it was in the aftermath of the Arab oil embargo and it was designed to limit dependence on foreign oil, as was the 55 national speed limit----it had absolutely nothing to do with pollution

[Number 10 GI]

I've been doing a little digging into the internet and it is supposed to be illegal for any city or state in the US to dump garbage in the ocean and has been so for a number of years. So where are these plastic products coming from that are polluting the ocean, primarily the Pacific Ocean? The five biggest violators are China, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam. These 5 countries dump more plastic into the ocean than all other countries in the world combined. So how is banning plastic bags in the US going to affect the amount of plastic in the ocean? It isn't, not one bit because we don't dump it into the ocean.

[JoMar]

I asked a Publix (on 466) employee last week about this and they said Publix is NOT getting rid of the plastic bags. I hope this is true. I use them for my groceries and then for many other uses in my house.

Just got back from Publix, asked the same question and they said yes, the ARE getting rid of plastic bags but the implementation plan has not been introduced.....then they thanked me for bringing my bags. Guess I will send a message to Publix Corporate and ask the question.

[ColdNoMore]

No, it was in the aftermath of the Arab oil embargo and it was designed to limit dependence on foreign oil, as was the 55 national speed limit----it had absolutely nothing to do with pollution

Sorry, but you are totally incorrect.

As I said..."one of the main goals of the mileage legislation wasn't just to save you money on fuel...it was also to reduce pollution."



Facts On Fuel Economy Standards (Turn ignition key here) (http://www.factcheck.org/2019/05/the-facts-on-fuel-economy-standards/)

The idea behind a fuel economy standard is to push automakers to produce vehicles that travel further on the same amount of fuel, thereby reducing the need for gasoline and decreasing pollution.


It's actually simple common sense.

With all other things being equal and knowing a vehicle (especially one in the 70's) pollutes, if car-1 uses 5 gallons of fuel to go from point A to point B and car-2 uses 10 gallons for the same distance...take a guess on which one "pollutes more?"

You're welcome. :ho:

[valuemkt]

Moderator. Pls put us out of our misery ! Nothing said about publix in many posts !!

[kcrazorbackfan]

I don't have a dog, but when I walked my "granddogs" I would use the plastic bags that our newspapers were delivered in. Perfect size.

Must be some really big poop.....

I'm all for stores doing away with plastic bags. One of my irks in life is seeing an empty plastic bag caught in bushes, up in a tree or rolling in the wind.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've been doing a little digging into the internet and it is supposed to be illegal for any city or state in the US to dump garbage in the ocean and has been so for a number of years. So where are these plastic products coming from that are polluting the ocean, primarily the Pacific Ocean? The five biggest violators are China, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam. These 5 countries dump more plastic into the ocean than all other countries in the world combined. So how is banning plastic bags in the US going to affect the amount of plastic in the ocean? It isn't, not one bit because we don't dump it into the ocean.

Up until this past year, much of Florida's trash was sent to China. This has been in all the papers, it's an actual "thing" for the Villages. If you check on some of the newsrags online, and even here I believe - you'll see information about it. Look for pretty much any thread or article about the Recreation Center weekly schedule being printed in the Daily Sun for details.

[coffeebean]

Easy fix; keep a bag in your car.

Come time when the plastic bags will be a thing of the past, I plan to keep a few re-usable bags in the golf cart and a few in the car.....always. I'll be prepared. Not sure I'll remember to bring the bags into the store but....that's what the little key ring is for. I'll attach it to the outside of my pocketbook as a reminder.

[coffeebean]

You can always use paper bags.

Is there a problem with insects in the folds of the paper bags? I remember that was a problem years ago.....hence, I've never bagged my groceries in paper bags.

[coffeebean]

Reusable bags need to be washed after each use from the contaminants that store items carry.
Not gonna happen. We still have strong immune systems in our household.

[coffeebean]

So Publix thinks plastic bags are destroying the planet -- but they will sell them to you at 99 cents

Publix will sell the re-usable cloth bags for $.99, not the plastic bags.

[tjlee500]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!
Just went to Publix in Lake Deaton. Cashier knew nothing about this. Same with cashier behind me who overheard?

[golfing eagles]

Just went to Publix in Lake Deaton. Cashier knew nothing about this. Same with cashier behind me who overheard?

You mean to say there may be 139 posts based on an unsubstantiated rumor????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

WELCOME TO TOTV!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[zuzonne22]

I have been using my own bags for years.
How about using the plastic bags from your newspaper to clean up after your dog? You’ll need more than one a day, of course, but I’m sure your neighbors without pets will save theirs for you.

[dwhite5773]

Ever think of using your Sun Times bag for your dog? Just thinking

[Bay Kid]

I heard....

[photo1902]

When plastic bags are outlawed, only outlaws will have plastic bags.

[Meloveday]

I don't understand how you can call yourself environmentally friendly if you condone the use of plastic bags!! Ante up the 99 cents!

[coffeebean]

The University of Arizona and Loma Linda University have both studied the cloth bag issue and have discovered ecoli and salmonella bacteria in them.

Was the bacteria found to be in the bags before their first use?

[coffeebean]

Wonder what happens when you go to check out and realize you forgot your bags?

Bring your groceries in the shopping cart to the car then bag the groceries with your re-usable bags which are waiting in the car.

[ColdNoMore]

Bring your groceries in the shopping cart to the car then bag the groceries with your re-usable bags which are waiting in the car.

A simple solution. :thumbup:

[coffeebean]

I asked a Publix (on 466) employee last week about this and they said Publix is NOT getting rid of the plastic bags. I hope this is true. I use them for my groceries and then for many other uses in my house.

Well, isn't that special? That information is the complete opposite of what I was told at the Colony Publix a few days ago. That is why I began this thread.

The Publix employee was handing out key rings with the re-usable grocery bags and informing everyone that Publix is phasing out plastic grocery bags. I would imagine this is a store wide policy. I have a feeling the employee you spoke to in the Publix on 466 was not informed yet.

[coffeebean]

You mean to say there may be 139 posts based on an unsubstantiated rumor????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

WELCOME TO TOTV!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Please don't shoot the messenger (me). I was only relaying what was told to me by a Publix employee. It must be true. I've got the key chain!

[japcal]

This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.
If you ever really shopped at Wegmans then you really couldn't compare them below Publix. There is no comparison.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Have not heard this. Several states have this policy already. Is this something Publix is doing. A key fob reminder is a neat idea. I always have bags in my golf cart and car but many times forget to carry them into store. This will force me.

[Topspinmo]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

Now if we can only get rid of plastic straws and pop plastic rings that hold them together.

[Aces4]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

That’s fine as long as Publix allows me to pack my own bags. I stopped using the fabric bags because the bagging persons don’t know how to pack them. Latest example: I had dropped three bags on the counter for the bagging person as i checked out and he proceeded to stuff all of the contents into one bag while I payed the bill. It was so heavy and jammed with the groceries it was ridiculous. I went back to plastic after that last episode.

[Nucky]

If you ever really shopped at Wegmans then you really couldn't compare them below Publix. There is no comparison.

VERY NICE FIRST POST! You should fit in here just fine. :duck:

Listen Kojak I didn't mention Wegman's because I never shopped there. :ohdear:

Wegmans may be better than Publix if they keep using PLASTIC BAGS. :duck: It doesn't matter because we'll never have a Wegmans or Costco!

[CFrance]

I have been using my own bags for years.
How about using the plastic bags from your newspaper to clean up after your dog? You’ll need more than one a day, of course, but I’m sure your neighbors without pets will save theirs for you.
Then those plastic bags will definitely go into the landfill. You can buy 120 biodegradable poop bags on Amazon for $4.99 and get them tomorrow if you have Amazon Prime.

[CFrance]

That’s fine as long as Publix allows me to pack my own bags. I stopped using the fabric bags because the bagging persons don’t know how to pack them. Latest example: I had dropped three bags on the counter for the bagging person as i checked out and he proceeded to stuff all of the contents into one bag while I payed the bill. It was so heavy and jammed with the groceries it was ridiculous. I went back to plastic after that last episode.
So just tell the person bagging not to overfill the bags or not to make them too heavy. I do that as a matter of course as they start packing them.

[CFrance]

Have not heard this. Several states have this policy already. Is this something Publix is doing. A key fob reminder is a neat idea. I always have bags in my golf cart and car but many times forget to carry them into store. This will force me.
Another thing some Publix locations do is put a big green sign on a stand at the front of the store, saying Did you remember your reusable bags.


When I go grocery shopping without DH, who has a good memory for things in the trunk, I take the bags out of the trunk and put them on the seat beside me. So I won't have to walk back to the car to retrieve the !@#$%^&*( bags.:ohdear:

[Bonnevie]

I can not believe the number of posts that use the term "hardship" about not having plastic bags. I used to work with Veterans and the easiest people to deal with were the former POWs because they understood the difference between a hardship and an inconvenience. Reading through these, many sound like the proverbial "grouchy old people". Will not having plastic bags affect what China does? of course not, but that doesn't absolve us from doing as much as we can to help the environment.

[Sarandipity]

Not offering plastic bags any more isn't a deal breaker for me, but then I always ask for paper anyway. Also, there are hundreds of other stores in this area that do use plastic bags. Re-cycling them at Publix is a no brainer. That's what I use at Aldi. If you get the newspaper delivered, those clear pastic bags are great for pet deposits. And they fit in your pocket easier (on a side note, they're wonderful for packing shoes in a suitcase). So if Publix discontinues the plastic, they'll just be one more store making a tiny difference in the waste problem.

[TrishMvhl]

You’ll be surprised how quickly you adjust to bringing your own bags. They’re sturdier than plastic, hold more and are more comfortable to carry. There’s so many attractive ones out there now, too! For small quick purchases I always keep a lightweight nylon bag in my purse or jacket pocket. Weighs next to nothing but very handy when I’m just buying a carton of milk etc.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I don't understand how you can call yourself environmentally friendly if you condone the use of plastic bags!! Ante up the 99 cents!

The same way owners of morbidly obese dogs call themselves "Responsible Dog Owners".

[ColdNoMore]

I can not believe the number of posts that use the term "hardship" about not having plastic bags. I used to work with Veterans and the easiest people to deal with were the former POWs because they understood the difference between a hardship and an inconvenience. Reading through these, many sound like the proverbial "grouchy old people". Will not having plastic bags affect what China does? of course not, but that doesn't absolve us from doing as much as we can to help the environment.

Yep...nailed it! :thumbup:

[dillywho]

Okay, so if they do away with the plastic bags, we will all find a way to adjust. Until then, I will take the plastic because I have many uses for them....not just throwing them away. I also take some back to Publix for their recycle bin.

I just have a couple of questions about all this:

1) It has been stated that most plastic bags are made from recycled plastic. Why can't these plastic bags have the same fate?

2) When will the trash companies and The Villages go to trash bins instead of requiring that we bag our trash in plastic? Seems like it would take an awful lot of the grocery size plastic bags to make these heavy-duty large (13-gal or 30-gal) size bags.

3) What happens to the big plastic bags we are (once again required) to use twice a week for household garbage and once for recyclables? Do they get recycled or just go straight to a landfill?

And yes, paper and cardboard do contribute to roach problems because they LOVE the glue.

[ladyarwen3]

Easy fix; keep a bag in your car.

I had a nylon bag that folds up into a little pouch about the size of a lemon. It has a little loops that i used to attach it to my purse. It opened up to an 18 inch square bag, perfect for a quick stop at the grocery store. I think I paid $3 for it. Used it for years until my kid moved to Wash. DC and they have no plastic bags in the stores there. She would walk home from work and stop at the grocery store nearly every day. She "borrowed" my little bag ....

Maybe I should make another one

[coffeebean]

Now if we can only get rid of plastic straws and pop plastic rings that hold them together.

I've had a Pina Colada with a paper straw. The straw collapsed before I was finished with the drink. I have never liked paper straws. I much prefer plastic in this case.

[coffeebean]

Another thing some Publix locations do is put a big green sign on a stand at the front of the store, saying Did you remember your reusable bags.


When I go grocery shopping without DH, who has a good memory for things in the trunk, I take the bags out of the trunk and put them on the seat beside me. So I won't have to walk back to the car to retrieve the !@#$%^&*( bags.:ohdear:

Why go back to the car for the bags? Just bring your groceries in the grocery cart and pack them up when you get back to the car where the re-usable bags are. That's what I plan to do because I'm sure there will be several times that I will forget to bring the bags into the store. I can bet money on that!

[thomp679]

No, the hardship you want imposed on everyone else is based on trivia and fear-crazed superstition.

Plastic is harmless when dumped in a landfill ("disposed of properly"). It's only a problem when people litter. Making the 95% of the people who dispose properly suffer because of the 5% who litter is aggressive agenda on your part -- eco-bullying , superstition-crazed, and power hungry.

Plastic is harmless when disposed of properly?? Turn the channel and think of someone other than yourself.

[Topspinmo]

I've had a Pina Colada with a paper straw. The straw collapsed before I was finished with the drink. I have never liked paper straws. I much prefer plastic in this case.

just get another straw:duck:

[ColdNoMore]

Plastic is harmless when disposed of properly?? Turn the channel and think of someone other than yourself.

Pretty amazing...eh? :oops:

[George Makrauer]

This "phasing out of plastic bags" is the result of a remarkably conceived and executed marketing conspiracy mounted by the American Paper Institute and the Paper Bag Institute going back to the 1960s, and is well documented here (https://comad.com/files_ftp/pages-pdf/plastic-bag-wars-politics-update-y19-1108.pdf). Follow the money.

Additional participants included the Glass Packaging Institute, the aluminum industry trade association, the General Federation of Women's Clubs (really; read the linked documentary evidence which was originally created on request for the Federal Trade Commission), the Environmental Defense Fund, Greenpeace, the late (self-proclaimed; read his books) socialist professor Barry Commoner, and an assortment of other parties who viewed all things plastic as a COMMERCIAL, NOT ENVIRONMENTAL, industry competitor and disrupter of then traditional materials markets and competitor revenues.

Any questions, please message me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

That’s fine as long as Publix allows me to pack my own bags. I stopped using the fabric bags because the bagging persons don’t know how to pack them. Latest example: I had dropped three bags on the counter for the bagging person as i checked out and he proceeded to stuff all of the contents into one bag while I payed the bill. It was so heavy and jammed with the groceries it was ridiculous. I went back to plastic after that last episode.

You are ALWAYS allowed to pack your own bags. I don't like other people bagging for me. I always bag my own.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've had a Pina Colada with a paper straw. The straw collapsed before I was finished with the drink. I have never liked paper straws. I much prefer plastic in this case.

I agree however paper isn't the only material available for straws anymore.

You can get metal straws which can be sterilized (boiled or sanitized), bamboo straws have made a pretty big hit, and you can buy straws made out of thick, sturdy, washable re-useable plastic (as opposed to single-use).

[Aloha1]

I've never seen a "greeter" at Publix. Walmart, yes but never Publix.

[golfing eagles]

Just wondering how many of those that vehemently despise plastic bags stand at the mail stations and throw their junk mail in the regular trash? Sort of like the celebrities who travel to environmental meetings on private jets and luxury yachts.

[JoMar]

Lots of differing opinions on this thread with, I assume some misinformation on both sides. Somewhere, some time, government will make the decisions for us since we can't get behind either side in mass. By the way, I got a reply from Publix Corporate and their only comment was they are committed to being environmentally responsible. It was a totally PC response :)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Just wondering how many of those that vehemently despise plastic bags stand at the mail stations and throw their junk mail in the regular trash? Sort of like the celebrities who travel to environmental meetings on private jets and luxury yachts.

Junk mail is made out of paper. Paper is fully biodegradeable and will compost easily in a landfill. Plastic is not biodegradeable, and will not compost at all.

While I don't like junk mail and definitely throw most of it away, I have fewer concerns about waste with it because of the fact that it will break down at the landfill.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Lots of differing opinions on this thread with, I assume some misinformation on both sides. Somewhere, some time, government will make the decisions for us since we can't get behind either side in mass. By the way, I got a reply from Publix Corporate and their only comment was they are committed to being environmentally responsible. It was a totally PC response :)

Publix heavily funds lobbyists to fight anti-plastic bag legislation.

City commissioners: Publix stifles plastic ban | News | alligator.org (https://www.alligator.org/news/city-commissioners-publix-stifles-plastic-ban/article_4e0fbf44-c250-11e9-b514-4fc68b338c81.html)

[Two Bills]

This "phasing out of plastic bags" is the result of a remarkably conceived and executed marketing conspiracy mounted by the American Paper Institute and the Paper Bag Institute going back to the 1960s, and is well documented here (https://comad.com/files_ftp/pages-pdf/plastic-bag-wars-politics-update-y19-1108.pdf). Follow the money.

Additional participants included the Glass Packaging Institute, the aluminum industry trade association, the General Federation of Women's Clubs (really; read the linked documentary evidence which was originally created on request for the Federal Trade Commission), the Environmental Defense Fund, Greenpeace, the late (self-proclaimed; read his books) socialist professor Barry Commoner, and an assortment of other parties who viewed all things plastic as a COMMERCIAL, NOT ENVIRONMENTAL, industry competitor and disrupter of then traditional materials markets and competitor revenues.
Any questions, please message me.

In 1960 no one had even considered the enviroment, and Greenpeace was not founded until 1971.

[coffeebean]

just get another straw:duck:

Now why didn't I think of that?

[retiredguy123]

The U.S. population makes up about 4.3 percent of the world population. Every human uses plastic. So, to me, this issue should be discussed as a global problem. Otherwise, what is the point? I like the plastic bags at Publix, and don't want to bring my own bags, unless everybody else in the world does the same.

[anothersteve]

https://www.ecoproducts.com/images/pdfs/talking_points/Biodegradation.pdf

Steve

[coffeebean]

I've never seen a "greeter" at Publix. Walmart, yes but never Publix.

I called him a greeter but that was just my terminology when describing...........

......... the guy who was standing at the entrance of Publix who was giving out key rings with a tiny fabric re-usable bag attached to it that said "Don't forget your re-usable bags" and was informing everyone who came in the store that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags in the near future. Whew, that was a mouthful!!!

I've never seen a "greeter" in Publix either. I guess I should have called him something else. Sorry to have confused the issue.

[George Makrauer]

In 1960 no one had even considered the enviroment, and Greenpeace was not founded until 1971.
READ THE LINKED DOCUMENT... I didn't say "1960"... I said "1960s"... a ten-year time-frame.

[Shimpy]

This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.

Doing away with bags.....what is next? Maybe buying a TV without a box or maybe a toaster, pots and pans set etc.

[Two Bills]

READ THE LINKED DOCUMENT... I didn't say "1960"... I said "1960s"... a ten-year time-frame.

.....and I said 1971. Outside the conspiracy lovers timeframe.

[Nucky]

Front end Manager at Publix on Bichara Blvd 3 PM today said listen up Jimmy Olsen. Tell Perry White Great Cesars Ghost, drop the Thread cause the Bags are staying. No formal notice from corporate cause he would be the guy who would have gotten notified. I give you my word I wrote his name down on the back of the receipt and shredded it, I think it was Larry.

It’s over kids onto something else?

[Bigben007]

That’s fine as long as Publix allows me to pack my own bags. I stopped using the fabric bags because the bagging persons don’t know how to pack them. Latest example: I had dropped three bags on the counter for the bagging person as i checked out and he proceeded to stuff all of the contents into one bag while I payed the bill. It was so heavy and jammed with the groceries it was ridiculous. I went back to plastic after that last episode.


The exact thing happened to me. The next time I said, you can use all bags, not everything has to go in one bag, she said ok and still stuffed the bag.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The exact thing happened to me. The next time I said, you can use all bags, not everything has to go in one bag, she said ok and still stuffed the bag.

So bag your own!

SO many people say "why do (the curse-word filter actually filtered out the word bag..gers) do such a lousy job, it's not hard, anyone can do it" and yet - they refuse to do it.

Honestly, it's pretty easy once you learn how. There's actually some small amount of skill, observation, and intuition required to properly bag groceries.

I double dare you to do your own from now on.

[Aces4]

So bag your own!

SO many people say "why do (the curse-word filter actually filtered out the word bag..gers) do such a lousy job, it's not hard, anyone can do it" and yet - they refuse to do it.

Honestly, it's pretty easy once you learn how. There's actually some small amount of skill, observation, and intuition required to properly bag groceries.

I double dare you to do your own from now on.

Ridiculous. I can bag groceries better than you, I’m sure. What I can’t do when there are long lines is unload the cart, pack the bags and pay for the groceries all at once and they prefer you don’t pack your own. Yes, even when asked, they have overpacked the bags. Each to their own.

[Schaumburger]

As a single, spur of the moment, grocer shopper, this doesn't work for me, not to mention ongoing attack on trees. I will focus on Winn-Dixie and Fresh Market going forward.

Just an idea...I keep several reusable canvas shopping bags in the back seat and trunk of my car. That may also work for you.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

The only way paper wins in any environmental category is in the disposal portion of its life cycle.

[Aloha1]

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[CWGUY]

Front end Manager at Publix on Bichara Blvd 3 PM today said listen up Jimmy Olsen. Tell Perry White Great Cesars Ghost, drop the Thread cause the Bags are staying. No formal notice from corporate cause he would be the guy who would have gotten notified. I give you my word I wrote his name down on the back of the receipt and shredded it, I think it was Larry.

It’s over kids onto something else?

:confused: This reply made me think of a question that I have been meaning to ask for some time now. Has anyone ever seen Nucky and Superman in the same room at the same time. I know I haven't. This can mean only one thing.......:super:

[JoMar]

Just an idea...I keep several reusable canvas shopping bags in the back seat and trunk of my car. That may also work for you.

I also keep one in each golf cart. We use the shopping list connected to our phones via Alexa so when I'm out and close to a Publix I check to app to see if anything has been added. Cuts down on the shopping trips.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The only way paper wins in any environmental category is in the disposal portion of its life cycle.

It's not the only way. Another way is the method of acquisition. Plastic is made from oil - an unrenewable resource. You can't plant an oil deposit and let it grow from seed. Most paper is made from wood - a 100% renewable resource. You can plant a tree and cut it down when it's grown, and replace it with another sapling, over and over again, ad infinitum.

[Bogie Shooter]

Ah yes, I heard in the last days someone very high in the federal gov’t said.....the US will be planting one trillion trees.

[coffeebean]

I spoke to a manager today at Colony Publix about the phasing out of plastic bags. This is what was said........

I questioned why some Publix stores are not aware of the phasing out of plastic bags. I was told that Colony Publix is the busiest store in the area so they receive information before the other stores.

I was told Publix, as a company, would like to completely phase out plastic bags. However, the company will be supplying less bags to the stores and will be charging the customers for the plastic bags. The amount to be charged for the plastic bags is unknown at this time and when this will be implemented is also unknown.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I spoke to a manager today at Colony Publix about the phasing out of plastic bags. This is what was said........

I questioned why some Publix stores are not aware of the phasing out of plastic bags. I was told that Colony Publix is the busiest store in the area so they receive information before the other stores.

I was told Publix, as a company, would like to completely phase out plastic bags. However, the company will be supplying less bags to the stores and will be charging the customers for the plastic bags. The amount to be charged for the plastic bags is unknown at this time and when this will be implemented is also unknown.

This is part of a nationwide trend. It's most prevalent along the coastal states (west and east), but as has been mentioned in several posts (not just by me) - Aldi's has been doing it this way from the get-go. It doesn't matter WHY they've been doing it - the fact is, they've been doing it all along.

Big box stores do it as well, so most people should have some experience, however limited, with having to either a) bring your own bags, b) buy bags at the store, or c) take empty case boxes from the store instead of bags.

[carhirsch]

Use the bag your newspaper is delivered in.

[Two Bills]

Use the bag your newspaper is delivered in.

Can't get many groceries in them!:icon_wink:

[patfla06]

Oh, BTW, In case my previous posts give you the wrong idea about my attitude, I'm all for recycling, saving the environment, etc. I just object to someone else mandating it and shoving it down my throat. George Orwell is mumbling in his grave "I told you so"

Thank you!

And there are items like RAW MEAT that should
be put in plastic so it doesn’t leak or contaminate anything.

[ColdNoMore]

The only way paper wins in any environmental category is in the disposal portion of its life cycle.

That's like saying; "The only way nuclear loses as a fuel source...is in the "disposal portion of its life-cycle."


Particularly, since the thread exists because of plastic's...complete life-cycle. :ohdear:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Thank you!

And there are items like RAW MEAT that should
be put in plastic so it doesn’t leak or contaminate anything.

The super-thin bags used for packing meat and produce wouldn't be eliminated, even if they do get rid of the grocery bags. You'll still be able to use those, and protect the rest of your groceries.

OR YOU CAN BUY THEM ON AMAZON which I've said several times. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that, if they absolutely can't possibly stand to live without a plastic bag that they're going to throw away when they get home anyway.

[patfla06]

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[queasy27]

I see no news articles, and nothing on Publix website, indicating any official change in their current policy - which is to encourage and heavily promote the use and purchase of re-usable bags.

Ah. So that's why every checkout clerk robotically says, "Thank you for bringing a bag."

I never liked the change from paper to plastic and have been using my own bags for decades. I leave four large and small bags in the car for groceries, CVS, takeout, etc.

Remember when we all lined our kitchen garbage cans with paper bags? I wonder if the requirement for plastic trash bags will ever be revisited ...

Big box stores don't offer bags and we all adapted to that. Maybe not Nucky. :)

[coffeebean]

Use the bag your newspaper is delivered in.

Not everyone has the paper delivered.

[coffeebean]

...........OR YOU CAN BUY THEM ON AMAZON which I've said several times. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that, if they absolutely can't possibly stand to live without a plastic bag that they're going to throw away when they get home anyway.

Do the bags on Amazon have handles just like grocery bags?

[asianthree]

Do the bags on Amazon have handles just like grocery bags?

If you go to amazon all your questions will be answered by the pictures they have by each product and the cost:MOJE_whot:

[coffeebean]

..........Remember when we all lined our kitchen garbage cans with paper bags?........

I can barely remember paper bags being used in the kitchen garbage can when I was a child. I think about how that must have been very messy with all sorts of liquid waste in the paper bags (one example is egg shells with the remnants of the egg whites). How many of those bags broke through when removing them from the cans? What about the roaches that nest in the folds of the paper bags? From what I read, roaches still nest in those paper bags.

I don't know how paper bags for kitchen garbage waste would work out in this day and age. Hope I never have to see it.

[swooner]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!

And should we use reusable bags in all the waste baskets in our home or will we go out and buy more plastic bags to use and throw out?

[coffeebean]

If you go to amazon all your questions will be answered by the pictures they have by each product and the cost:MOJE_whot:


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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Do the bags on Amazon have handles just like grocery bags?

You can buy actual grocery bags at Amazon. They sell them by the case, 250, 500, or 1000 per case. Plastic grocery bags with handles, also known as t-shirt bags. You can buy a case of 1000 for $17.
Robot Check (https://www.amazon.com/Members-Mark-T-Shirt-Carry-Out-Bags/dp/B075KYNWY5/ref=pd_cp_79_2/146-8024990-9696636?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075KYNWY5&pd_rd_r=37ee0813-a28f-47b0-b549-bc7fd7a5e324&pd_rd_w=47gOg&pd_rd_wg=THA8l&pf_rd_p=592dc715-8438-4207-b7fa-4c7afdeb6112&pf_rd_r=AC77KSAM2JN9485BCW06&psc=1&refRID=AC77KSAM2JN9485BCW06)

[tophcfa]

Dam, we bring our publix plastic grocery bags back up north with us where plastic is no longer allowed. I bring them into the Big Y or Stop and Shop and when they ask me if I have my own grocery bags I pull the plastic bags out of my pocket and say yes. I guess I will have to bring some of our plastic bag stash back down to Florida so I can do the same. And who says they are single use bags?

[coffeebean]

You can buy actual grocery bags at Amazon. They sell them by the case, 250, 500, or 1000 per case. Plastic grocery bags with handles, also known as t-shirt bags. You can buy a case of 1000 for $17.
Robot Check (https://www.amazon.com/Members-Mark-T-Shirt-Carry-Out-Bags/dp/B075KYNWY5/ref=pd_cp_79_2/146-8024990-9696636?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075KYNWY5&pd_rd_r=37ee0813-a28f-47b0-b549-bc7fd7a5e324&pd_rd_w=47gOg&pd_rd_wg=THA8l&pf_rd_p=592dc715-8438-4207-b7fa-4c7afdeb6112&pf_rd_r=AC77KSAM2JN9485BCW06&psc=1&refRID=AC77KSAM2JN9485BCW06)

Yes, I saw the bags at Amazon. I guess you didn't get my joke with my previous "Thank You" post.

[Northerner52]

I emailed Publix about this and they did NOT confirm.

[coffeebean]

I emailed Publix about this and they did NOT confirm.

What did you ask Publix? The latest I was informed about was that Publix will be charging for the plastic bags. Is that what you asked them?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The end result of this entire thread:


There might be an end to free plastic single-use grocery bags at Publix.
There might not be.
If there is, you have options:

Buy re-useable bags, and reuse them.
Buy single-use bags by the case on Amazon and/or similar.
Buy paper bags as needed from the stores, which will sell them at a nominal cost per bag.
Use boxes normally discarded by the stores you buy stuff from anyway.
Buy groceries on Amazon and have them delivered in boxes.
Don't use bags or boxes, just load everything up in your car and unload them when you get home.

[Back9]

The end result of this entire thread:


There might be an end to free plastic single-use grocery bags at Publix.
There might not be.
If there is, you have options:

Buy re-useable bags, and reuse them.
Buy single-use bags by the case on Amazon and/or similar.
Buy paper bags as needed from the stores, which will sell them at a nominal cost per bag.
Use boxes normally discarded by the stores you buy stuff from anyway.
Buy groceries on Amazon and have them delivered in boxes.
Don't use bags or boxes, just load everything up in your car and unload them when you get home.


"Buy" -- is that a command or a suggestion?

Would you impose these inconveniences and costs on the rest of us if you could?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

"Buy" -- is that a command or a suggestion?

Would you impose these inconveniences and costs on the rest of us if you could?

Was there some part of "you have options" that you didn't understand?

[Back9]

Dam, we bring our publix plastic grocery bags back up north with us where plastic is no longer allowed. I bring them into the Big Y or Stop and Shop and when they ask me if I have my own grocery bags I pull the plastic bags out of my pocket and say yes. I guess I will have to bring some of our plastic bag stash back down to Florida so I can do the same. And who says they are single use bags?



This plastic bags things is "Better Homes And Gardens" gone political.

[JimJohnson]

I say THANK YOU PUBLIX! We are into such a self enriching period of time, that this move to help the health of the earth is so uplifting. Plastic bags are more efficient for Publix. Reusable bags will not help the bottom line profit for this food giant. It might even lose them some customers. Doing what is right for all, over personal profit is becoming a lost virtue, so again, God bless you PUBLIX.

[graciegirl]

Preaching at someone may have the reverse effect.

At this time Publix isn't phasing out plastic bags and has no plans to. I think taking reusable bags is a good thing.

[JimJohnson]

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[ColdNoMore]

I say THANK YOU PUBLIX! We are into such a self enriching period of time, that this move to help the health of the earth is so uplifting. Plastic bags are more efficient for Publix. Reusable bags will not help the bottom line profit for this food giant. It might even lose them some customers. Doing what is right for all, over personal profit is becoming a lost virtue, so again, God bless you PUBLIX.


That very truthful statement, sadly covers so very many aspects...of our current society. :ohdear:


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[dewilson58]

There was a greeter at Publix yesterday informing people that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags. I was told this new policy will be implemented in the next 2-3 months.

Re-usable bags are $.99 each. I received a re-usable bag key ring as a reminder to bring re-usable bags to Publix. It is cute!




A simple, informative, posts generates +200 posts.


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[golfing eagles]

My personal opinion:

Those plastic bags will decompose long before this thread dies:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[cmj1210]

There is still paper.

[Back9]

Was there some part of "you have options" that you didn't understand?


Your objective is to eliminate the option of plastic bags, correct?

If not, what's the point of the "no bags" virtue signaling?

[Back9]

Recycling stupidity, and the making of mountains out of molehills.

John Stossel - Recycling Stupidity - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSiGLc6fsl0)

[Back9]

Some critical thinking about plastic bags.


There is a vocal group that is "anti plastic bags", and virtue signals by NOT using plastic bags and wants the rest of us to know about it.

So, what is the problem with plastic bags? I surmise that there are actually 2 problems 'in play' here:


1) Plastic bags are part of a general "plastic problem" because they aren't "biodegradable". It's not clear why something that isn't "biodegradable" is a problem -- after all, cement isn't biodegradable, and most earth materials AREN"T, in fact, "biodegradable" --- but we'll leave it for now that the problem with plastic is that it's not biodegradable.

2) Plastic bag are sometimes not disposed of properly by people who litter, and the bags end up in places where litter isn't regularly cleaned up, e.g. "Sea Plastic".


Question: how does a few people not using plastic bags affect either of these problems?

1) Since plastics use is huge and our standard of living depends on it, how does a few people not using skimpy plastic bags in any measurable way reduce the consumption of plastic? Answer: it doesn't. Would "banning" plastic bags reduce the consumption of plastic in ANY significant way. Answer: no, it wouldn't.

2) Regarding Litter, does a few fastidious people not using plastic bags have any impact on Litter and Sea Plastic? Absolutely not -- people who virtue project over plastic bags don't Litter in the first place.


So "not using plastic bags" has no effect on either of the problems associated with plastic, why do they do it?

I pose that question to the Forum.


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[tophcfa]

Some critical thinking about plastic bags.


There is a vocal group that is "anti plastic bags", and virtue signals by NOT using plastic bags and wants the rest of us to know about it.

So "not using plastic bags" has no effect on either of the problems associated with plastic, why do they do it?

I pose that question to the Forum.


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Activists need causes to be active about. They pick some issues and run with them regardless of their merits. I have learned the hard way that it is a wast of time to try to debate logic with these folks.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Your objective is to eliminate the option of plastic bags, correct?

If not, what's the point of the "no bags" virtue signaling?

I'll re-summarize in simple terms that even you can understand:

This thread is about a rumor that Publix will be getting rid of plastic bags. That's not my opinion. It's a fact. That really is what this thread is about.

My opinion is:

IF...the rumor is true, THEN..you have options.

I listed the options I came up with, for how to handle the situation IF it is true.

[Back9]

Activists need causes to be active about. They pick some issues and run with them regardless of their merits. I have learned the hard way that it is a wast of time to try to debate logic with these folks.


Indeed.

We need to face the fact the people are often NOT motivated by logic. That doesn't mean theyr are not going to act -- however dangerous and oppressive those actions might be to the rest of us.

So, if they are NOT motivated by logic, what ARE they motivated by? Answer: establishing -- and making themselves member of -- a group/tribe/herd. "Belonging" is a crucial part of survival, especially for women (most "anti-*******" are women) AND signalling a sense of superiority -- no-one wants to be ordinary, so "Look at me! I'm not one of those unwashed masses who use plastic bags...". Being Anti-Bag and flaunting same is signalling belonging to a specific group with specific rituals and identifiers.

The Anti-******* are dangerous to the rest of use because they have an aggressive agenda - the "logical" end point of their schtick is banning plastics for everyone. Crazy? Of course, but like we said, "logic" is not part of the equation, nor what motivates these people.

Call me an old f*rt, but human tribe is better off when people get their social needs and sense of specialness from the Church, as opposed to these pagan, state-imposed, ersatz religions.










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