The 4th Square If TOTV got to design it !?!?

[MrExcite721]

a. Location
b. Name and Theme
c. Shop/store you want the most
d. Restaurant/bar you want the most
e. Coffee/beverage store you want the most
f. Any additional comments you can offer to make it happen

OK, I'll go first !!

a. New extension of 501, south of 470
b. "Adventure Crossing" Indiana Jones/Casablanca/Noir style
c. Hobby Lobby
d. Perkins
e. Dunkin
f. "Grab your whip and fedora, we'll see you in Adventure Crossing"

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

a. Location: Micro Racetrack Road, replacing the Original Speedway Park and surrounding environs.
b. Name and Theme: Miniature Golf, complete with windmills and a fake Statue of Liberty.
c. Shop/store you want the most: Something similar to Carobongo's in Sumter Landing.
d. Restaurant/bar you want the most: Cold Stone Creamery and Breugger's Bagels
e. Coffee/beverage store you want the most: Dunkin or Starbucks, either's acceptable.
f. Any additional comments you can offer to make it happen: this would be "the tacky pink flamingo of the Villages." On purpose, as a huge in-your-face touch of whimsy, just like they have at the actual Disney World and at miniature golf locations. You could have colorful pops of artwork and sculptures, retro 1950's architecture.

A small tram system to allow people to ride a tram around the perimeter - that way they can park pretty much anywhere, even if their chosen destination is on the other side of the square and they have difficulty walking that far. They go to the nearest tram stop (which would be open but have a roof, like some bus stops in cities), and wait a few minutes. A tram (basically a high-powered electric, solar, or hydro-powered engine pulling a bunch of golf cart seats on wheels) would pick them up and make a complete circle around the square like a clock - stopping at 1:30, 3, 4:30, 6, 7:30, 9, 10:30, and 12 o'clock positions. At least one of the sections on the tram would be wheelchair accessible.

Instead of a view of a lake (as in Sumter), there'd be an outdoor exercise and cooling station with misters to provide a refreshing spray of CLEAN, FILTERED water on hot days.

It'd basically be similar to Epcot, but on a small scale, with tons of visual treats for people who like eye-candy.

WVLG would open a new sub-radio station with "modern" oldies, progressive and album-oriented rock and roll, mixed with 1970's bubble-gum music (Partridge Family and Bobby Sherman, anyone?), all the way up to Nirvana and Twisted Sister.

Instead of constant landscaping, the primary landscaping would be FAKE. Intentionally, outrageously fake. Purple and fuscia roses, brown daisies with white leaves, and so on.

There would be actual genuine grass, in at least one spot. Not this Zoysa or St. Augustine or Bermuda weed nonsense. I mean real blue fescue/rye grass. It wouldn't need to be a big spot but it would need to be the real deal, and kept meticulously maintained. It would be a nod to every single person who visits or moved from anywhere north of Florida, so they don't have to ever think about how much they miss real grass. It's right there for them to admire and enjoy. Maybe even make it a picnic spot, next to the food court.

And yes - this square would have a food court!

[MrExcite721]

Wow, this needs to be built ASAP !

[village dreamer]

the streets need to be very wide for all the fairs.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I was thinking Laugh-In, hippies, day-glo, bean bag chairs, and Peter Max when I posted that. I stand by it. I think it'd be a hella fun idea for all of the younger Boomers and their kid brothers and sisters who are old enough to remember it, and young enough to still dance to it.

Oh yeah and I'll add: Line dancing will be strictly verboten.

[Two Bills]

A camel was the result, when a horse designed by a committee! :icon_wink:

[Bwolf1]

And what a great animal it is!

[Sunflower33]

I think it should be around Chitty Chatty area. It should be called The End of the Line. Would love star bucks really great restaurants like Seasons52. Coppers hawk PF Chang and so on. New stores for clothing and shoes Tory Burch Kate spade and so on.

[dewilson58]

If ToTV got to design it??????.......it would be bright white.




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[Cranford61]

I would call the new square “Coleman”.

[pamelasuzzane@gmail.com]

Key west theme!!!!

[ColdNoMore]

In homage to many residents most frustrating issue in traveling in TV, it shouldn't be a square at all...it should be a roundabout. :D

That way business owners might have higher sales, from those wandering around from lane to lane...trying to find their way out. :1rotfl:

As for location, that's easy.


Just put it right next to...the new Costco. :ho:

[ChicagoNative]

The 4th square is supposedly going to be down near Coleman, so in a nod to that fine institution, make it prison-themed with the actual square resembling a prison yard. The cocktail stands could be fashioned as guard towers. Have all the Village employees and service people dressed in prison guard and/or orange jumpsuit uniforms. Every evening’s entertainment would start with a performance by Village performance clubs doing Jailhouse Rock or Jailbreak before the bands start.

The businesses surrounding the square could be fronted by “cells” from which one could view the nightly goings-on. At least one restaurant could be styled as a prison mess hall. There would be a weekly food truck night where all the trucks are styled as paddy wagons from various cities.

As far as food, I’d like to see REAL Chicago tavern style pizza, hot dogs, and Italian beefs. Other food related would be a good bakery, breakfast joint, wine bar, coffee house, dessert bar, NY style deli.

And in a departure from clothing stores offering $80 polo shirts, how ‘bout a Dollar Tree, an artists’ studio for home decor, an Amazon pickup/drop off station, an Apple store.

Just spitballing’.

[Dave2000]

Ya, the real grass spot a good place for your dog to re-leave themselves.

[ccawalleye]

It would be a gold mine if they would put in a Portillo's
The Villages Need A Place For Good Italian Beef & Burgers And Hot Dogs.
Portillo's Would Be A Asset To Not Only The 4Th Square But Any Of The Other
3 Squares As Well.

[Barbscats]

Key West/Caribbean theme with pastel buildings and lots of palm trees..located off of 470 to accommodate the new expansion. Restaurants should include Seasons 52, bagel/ deli, good Chinese with table service, a bakery, seafood, and service including a dry cleaner and gas station. Trader Joes and Costco would be welcome as well. Retail should include both men's and women's boutiques, home furnishings and accessories, jewelry store, gift shop and book store.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Ya, the real grass spot a good place for your dog to re-leave themselves.

No, they can use the mini dog park on the side of the square. It would be just a solid concrete foundation slab, with a free dog poop bag dispenser (for all the Publix customers, amirite?) and bleach wipes. Anyone seen leaving after their dog pooped without cleaning up, would get fined $100 per incident. That would fund the nightly band and the cost of the baggies and wipes.

Because the grass would be the eating area of the food court, they could forbid ANY pets in that spot. Service animals ONLY, 4 on the floor, on duty. Anyone caught bringing a pet or proving that their service animal isn't really a service animal, because he jumped up on the owner's lap, or is sitting in a doggie stroller (for example) would be fined $200. That would fund the maintenance of the picnic area. No smoking in that area either. Same fine.

[E Cascade]

More little gourmet coffee cafes (other than Dunkin/Starbucks/etc) with even a drive thru if possible, gourmet vegetarian food, super little bakery/cheese shops.........anything organic and healthy. How about a "good food" breakfast quick in/out place?

[E Cascade]

Good organic coffee/tea cafe, healthy food to eat specializing in organic, vegan; good, quick breakfast place; gourmet bakery, cheese shop with eatery, cafe with ramen bowls, ......these places need to have a way for you to park around the outside with lots of alleyways to get into the open-walkway streets/centers not crowded with golf carts/cars/etc

[Denise1]

COSTCO,pnc bank, Gordon foods, COSTCO

[l2ridehd]

Needs to be somewhere South of the Turnpike. Call it Steamboat Springs. Have a real paddle wheel steamboat on a lake with a full casino on board. Make all the buildings and streets resemble New Orleans. With French balconies, lots of jazz music, street vendors, beignets, espresso, have a real madi gra and a real bourbon street. Outdoor artists every day, nightly entertainment would always be jazz, blues and honkytonk. Some really good french pastry shops, lots of seafood places, hurricane drinks with some Crawfish Etouffee and lots of BBQ. A couple of good bed and breakfast places vs a hotel or maybe a boutique hotel, and it has to have lots of cops who always look the other way. And of course lots and lots of golf cart parking.

[Lottoguy]

They have that already. It's called Lake Sumter Landing.

[Lottoguy]

First off a little history. Spanish Springs was inspired by St. Augustine and the Fountain of Youth. Lake Sumter Landing was inspired by Key West. Brownwood was inspired by the cattle industry of Florida from a past era.
A interesting theme for the next town square could be something inspired from NASA and outer space. Have rocket towers, launch pad bandstand, space shuttle restaurants, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter bar themes. Have a countdown clock next to the bandstand showing when the band will start to play in the square. My two cents....

[jwc7@hotmail.com]

I agree with everything said here except the location; 470 is a bit too far south. I can see it more in the area below Monarch Grove, between the Turnpike and 501.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

a. Location: Micro Racetrack Road, replacing the Original Speedway Park and surrounding environs.
b. Name and Theme: Miniature Golf, complete with windmills and a fake Statue of Liberty.
c. Shop/store you want the most: Something similar to Carobongo's in Sumter Landing.
d. Restaurant/bar you want the most: Cold Stone Creamery and Breugger's Bagels
e. Coffee/beverage store you want the most: Dunkin or Starbucks, either's acceptable.
f. Any additional comments you can offer to make it happen: this would be "the tacky pink flamingo of the Villages." On purpose, as a huge in-your-face touch of whimsy, just like they have at the actual Disney World and at miniature golf locations. You could have colorful pops of artwork and sculptures, retro 1950's architecture.

A small tram system to allow people to ride a tram around the perimeter - that way they can park pretty much anywhere, even if their chosen destination is on the other side of the square and they have difficulty walking that far. They go to the nearest tram stop (which would be open but have a roof, like some bus stops in cities), and wait a few minutes. A tram (basically a high-powered electric, solar, or hydro-powered engine pulling a bunch of golf cart seats on wheels) would pick them up and make a complete circle around the square like a clock - stopping at 1:30, 3, 4:30, 6, 7:30, 9, 10:30, and 12 o'clock positions. At least one of the sections on the tram would be wheelchair accessible.

WVLG would open a new sub-radio station with "modern" oldies, progressive and album-oriented rock and roll, mixed with 1970's bubble-gum music (Partridge Family and Bobby Sherman, anyone?), all the way up to Nirvana and Twisted Sister.

And yes - this square would have a food court!

I read the post before the sender’s name and said to myself, this must be OBB. And I was right!

Love the prog suggestion! Good luck to us!

[bandsdavis]

100% front row seats, all in the shade, so no one has to go early to claim them.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

New Orleans theme
Call it Vieux Carré
Fill it with buskers, street preachers, bums, tee-shirt shops, rip off bars, ghost tours, street artists, mule-drawn carriages, praline shops, and oyster bars.
Shucks, I'm just a little homesick.

[Katieburr]

a. Location
b. Name and Theme
c. Shop/store you want the most
d. Restaurant/bar you want the most
e. Coffee/beverage store you want the most
f. Any additional comments you can offer to make it happen

OK, I'll go first !!

a. New extension of 501, south of 470
b. "Adventure Crossing" Indiana Jones/Casablanca/Noir style
c. Hobby Lobby
d. Perkins
e. Dunkin
f. "Grab your whip and fedora, we'll see you in Adventure Crossing"

My idea for a 4th square would be an old world European Square including:
1. Design the buildings like a Swiss Chalet, an Irish Pub, a German beer garden, a French cafe, an Italian Villa, etc.
2. Serve diverse types of foods from around the world to match the building designs.
3. Hold events such as Cinco de Mayo, Groundhog Day (with a Gecko?), Chinese New Year with lanterns, etc.
4. Open a World Market store or Pottery Barn.

[Smalley]

a. Location
b. Name and Theme
c. Shop/store you want the most
d. Restaurant/bar you want the most
e. Coffee/beverage store you want the most
f. Any additional comments you can offer to make it happen

OK, I'll go first !!

a. New extension of 501, south of 470
b. "Adventure Crossing" Indiana Jones/Casablanca/Noir style
c. Hobby Lobby
d. Perkins
e. Dunkin
f. "Grab your whip and fedora, we'll see you in Adventure Crossing"

First of all, the entire square should be non-smoking, inside and out.
Stores: independent business preferred like a locally owned coffee shop, breakfast restaurant, Asian restaurant, other ethnic restaurants. We could use a vegetarian friendly-vegan friendly place as well. :

[Villagevip]

Right off the turnpike, to lure tourist off the turnpike, on their way to Orlando....This, demanded by the business owners..
Theme would be, the old south plantation style (politically correct?)..Surrey carriages(no horses) and white columns, cupola surrounding the round bandstand..Plenty of Magnolia tress, mint juleps.. : )

[Classic55]

How about Bedford Falls, Would have to have the Bijou, Emporium, Baily Bros Building and Loan... with street names like Capra Blvd, Uncle Billy's Street, Clarence Court, Zuzo pettals Street

[jackpine]

The 4th square is supposedly going to be down near Coleman, so in a nod to that fine institution, make it prison-themed with the actual square resembling a prison yard. The cocktail stands could be fashioned as guard towers. Have all the Village employees and service people dressed in prison guard and/or orange jumpsuit uniforms. Every evening’s entertainment would start with a performance by Village performance clubs doing Jailhouse Rock or Jailbreak before the bands start.

The businesses surrounding the square could be fronted by “cells” from which one could view the nightly goings-on. At least one restaurant could be styled as a prison mess hall. There would be a weekly food truck night where all the trucks are styled as paddy wagons from various cities.

As far as food, I’d like to see REAL Chicago tavern style pizza, hot dogs, and Italian beefs. Other food related would be a good bakery, breakfast joint, wine bar, coffee house, dessert bar, NY style deli.

And in a departure from clothing stores offering $80 polo shirts, how ‘bout a Dollar Tree, an artists’ studio for home decor, an Amazon pickup/drop off station, an Apple store.

Just spitballing’.
Yes, Italian beefs or combos (wet). Thin crispy crust pizza cut in squares, and Lou Malnatis styles deep dish pizza.

[Two Bills]

No political rallies or Scooter the DJ allowed within 1 mile of the square.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

New Orleans theme
Call it Vieux Carré
Fill it with buskers, street preachers, bums, tee-shirt shops, rip off bars, ghost tours, street artists, mule-drawn carriages, praline shops, and oyster bars.
Shucks, I'm just a little homesick.

Don't forget the voodoo museum, complete with a genuine lock of Marie Leveau's hair!

[csiebold]

Ok I would like to see Starbucks, a nice restaurant or two. As for the name I would think a southern name.

[patfla06]

All of these responses are incredibly imaginative!
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[tophcfa]

No disco allowed, and line dancers are only allowed in a designated area behind the band 👍

[pdfortin]

Thoughts for next square. There is enough "GOLF" here, no need for anything related. Food; Please, no more of the same places.
Stores; Same thing. Having different places to eat and shop would bring in more people from farther out.

[janetuwg@yahoo.com]

I love the idea of a 4th square mimicking south beach or key west. They could do a beach club with cabanas, would love a Whole Foods. Smoothie bars and gourmet salad place like the chain Chopt.

[jackiez45]

What about a Trader Joes somewhere near Brownwood. The best store there is. Not Wholefoods, Earthfare is very similar.

[charmed59]

No political rallies or Scooter the DJ allowed within 1 mile of the square.

Scooter already performs at Edna’s on the Green. (At the food trucks)

[Two Bills]

Scooter already performs at Edna’s on the Green. (At the food trucks)

Please keep him there!

[BostonRich]

Scooter already performs at Edna’s on the Green. (At the food trucks)

Please define "perform".

[Packer Fan]

Needs to be somewhere South of the Turnpike. Call it Steamboat Springs. Have a real paddle wheel steamboat on a lake with a full casino on board. Make all the buildings and streets resemble New Orleans. With French balconies, lots of jazz music, street vendors, beignets, espresso, have a real madi gra and a real bourbon street. Outdoor artists every day, nightly entertainment would always be jazz, blues and honkytonk. Some really good french pastry shops, lots of seafood places, hurricane drinks with some Crawfish Etouffee and lots of BBQ. A couple of good bed and breakfast places vs a hotel or maybe a boutique hotel, and it has to have lots of cops who always look the other way. And of course lots and lots of golf cart parking.

Love this idea, especially the New Orleans theme. Wow would that fit in with the Villages themes well..... Mardi Gras every night, how fun.
A lake would be a great thing too.... you see how popular LSL is...

[MEbner2805]

Love that key west idea! Tropical hideaway theme name!