Restrictions In Different Areas

[Double Eagle]

Hello all. Thinking of buying in the not too distant future.

I will have lots of questions before I purchase, but a couple for now.


Are there different restrictions in different areas of TV? For example: Where can you park a small boat/jet ski/lawn mower etc. on your own property?

Also, while looking at a map of the different districts, I saw one area marked as "enclave parcel." What does this mean?

Thanks for all replies.

[asianthree]

Hello all. Thinking of buying in the not too distant future.

I will have lots of questions before I purchase, but a couple for now.


Are there different restrictions in different areas of TV? For example: Where can you park a small boat/jet ski/lawn mower etc. on your own property?

Also, while looking at a map of the different districts, I saw one area marked as "enclave parcel." What does this mean?

Thanks for all replies.

27/441 and below does not allow any storage of boat, jet ski, mowers, RVs on your property unless it is in your garage.

[Double Eagle]

27/441 and below does not allow any storage of boat, jet ski, mowers, RVs on your property unless it is in your garage.

So, if I am looking at the map correctly, the homes north and east of the main portion of TV across the Golf Cart Bridge into "Orange Blossom" allow these things. Is this correct?

[dewilson58]

Here are the restrictions:




Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So, if I am looking at the map correctly, the homes north and east of the main portion of TV across the Golf Cart Bridge into "Orange Blossom" allow these things. Is this correct?

The deed restrictions for that area of The Villages is much less strict, but it's also out of date and parts of it completely obsolete. For instance they require that only double-wides be allowed to be placed on any property there. Now, in actuality, if you tear down an old mobile home in the Historic section (as it is called), you must replace it with a "site-built" home. You are no longer allowed to replace it with another mobile home.

Yes, you can put a lawnmower in your driveway. However, if you use your driveway to store your 40-foot RV, you will likely **** off your neighbors, who enjoy a more reasonable view of their neighborhood.

There are RV storage facilities nearby, both covered and uncovered. The same goes for boats - I mean, if you have a canoe you can just up-end it and lean it against the wall in your storage shed. Or even hang it over the sliding doors into the house from the lanai, as a decorative touch.

Just because something isn't forbidden, doesn't mean it's a great idea to do it. There are folks whose families come in RVs to visit for a few days - I personally think that's fine, but when it's your RV and you're using your driveway to store it, it crosses the line of impropriety - whether or not it's strictly "allowed" or "forbidden."

[Double Eagle]

Here are the restrictions:




Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

Thank you. As I understand this they may vary by: County> District> Unit.

So I should check each prospective purchase this way for restrictions?

[Double Eagle]

The deed restrictions for that area of The Villages is much less strict, but it's also out of date and parts of it completely obsolete. For instance they require that only double-wides be allowed to be placed on any property there. Now, in actuality, if you tear down an old mobile home in the Historic section (as it is called), you must replace it with a "site-built" home. You are no longer allowed to replace it with another mobile home.

Yes, you can put a lawnmower in your driveway. However, if you use your driveway to store your 40-foot RV, you will likely **** off your neighbors, who enjoy a more reasonable view of their neighborhood.

There are RV storage facilities nearby, both covered and uncovered. The same goes for boats - I mean, if you have a canoe you can just up-end it and lean it against the wall in your storage shed. Or even hang it over the sliding doors into the house from the lanai, as a decorative touch.

Just because something isn't forbidden, doesn't mean it's a great idea to do it. There are folks whose families come in RVs to visit for a few days - I personally think that's fine, but when it's your RV and you're using your driveway to store it, it crosses the line of impropriety - whether or not it's strictly "allowed" or "forbidden."

Thank you. No RV. 16' boat. Jet ski. Riding mower. Jet ski and mower probably inside depending on existing garage, or if I am allowed to build a garage.

Not sure what you mean by "out of date and obsolete." Wouldn't the requirement of stick built homes be an update? Or, are you saying the restrictions have been amended but not as they should be? In other words (I have not seen them) do they still mean what they say?

[dewilson58]

Thank you. As I understand this they may vary by: County> District> Unit.

So I should check each prospective purchase this way for restrictions?




As with any home purchase.

[njbchbum]

The deed restrictions for that area of The Villages is much less strict, but it's also out of date and parts of it completely obsolete. For instance they require that only double-wides be allowed to be placed on any property there. Now, in actuality, if you tear down an old mobile home in the Historic section (as it is called), you must replace it with a "site-built" home. You are no longer allowed to replace it with another mobile home.
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Where do you get your information; and when was that revision made and not officially amended. It was just a couple of years ago that a fire victim replaced their manufactured with another manufactured in the Village of Silver Lake!

[EdFNJ]

Now, in actuality, if you tear down an old mobile home in the Historic section (as it is called), you must replace it with a "site-built" home. You are no longer allowed to replace it with another mobile home. Is that recent? A friend of ours mother passed away a few years ago. She owned a double-wide in the Historic Section. Our friends had it torn down and a brand new custom built double-wide rolled in on the property (admittedly with LOTS of red tape). This was 2 years ago. What they told us was at that time any old manufactured home a family sells back to The Villages is taken away and a new site-built home is put in it's place. This was their property and they were told as long as they got proper permits and it met all current code requirements they could roll in a replacement which they did.

[EdFNJ]

Where do you get your information; and when was that revision made and not officially amended. It was just a couple of years ago that a fire victim replaced their manufactured with another manufactured in the Village of Silver Lake! Unless it has changed in 2yrs which is possible I believe that only applies to homes either abandoned or sold back to the Villages by families who previously lived there. See my last post above this.

[MollyJo]

This is a very interesting conversation...I thought regulations within TV would be the same. I recall my first visit 4 years ago, and was told at the sales office that ‘code enforcers’ ride through TV neighborhoods in golf cars & look for property violators, including a garage door that is left open & found to still be open 2 hours later. This salesperson stated that the homeowner would receive a notice reminding them of TV regulations. I plan to move to TV this year & rent while looking for my perfect home/neighborhood. I will be asking these questions, this is the reason I am drawn to TV & away from my northern neighborhood that I’ve loved for 25 years. The ‘Old School’ has closed, and pride in homeownership is going, going, gone...

[asianthree]

This is a very interesting conversation...I thought regulations within TV would be the same. I recall my first visit 4 years ago, and was told at the sales office that ‘code enforcers’ ride through TV neighborhoods in golf cars & look for property violators, including a garage door that is left open & found to still be open 2 hours later. This salesperson stated that the homeowner would receive a notice reminding them of TV regulations. I plan to move to TV this year & rent while looking for my perfect home/neighborhood. I will be asking these questions, this is the reason I am drawn to TV & away from my northern neighborhood that I’ve loved for 25 years. The ‘Old School’ has closed, and pride in homeownership is going, going, gone...

Only time community watch called us about our garage door being up was at 2am. Making sure we were aware. We were leaving to go to the airport. Also called us that 2 newspapers were in our drive, while we were at Disney. They picked them up, put them at our front door. The enforcers are a neighbor who thinks you are doing it wrong

[dewilson58]

Only time community watch called us about our garage door being up was at 2am. Making sure we were aware. We were leaving to go to the airport. Also called us that 2 newspapers were in our drive, while we were at Disney. They picked them up, put them at our front door. The enforcers are a neighbor who thinks you are doing it wrong




Same here. Very helpful.


Not a Nazi group driving around with a clipboard looking for violations.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Thank you. No RV. 16' boat. Jet ski. Riding mower. Jet ski and mower probably inside depending on existing garage, or if I am allowed to build a garage.

Not sure what you mean by "out of date and obsolete." Wouldn't the requirement of stick built homes be an update? Or, are you saying the restrictions have been amended but not as they should be? In other words (I have not seen them) do they still mean what they say?

if you go to the links provided every time anyone links to them on ToTV, you will see only the original documents to area 7 (which is the area you seem to be interested in).

The original documents were written a few decades ago and the link itself was never updated.

This is one of the reasons why new potential homeowners get so confused and frustrated when we ask about restrictions and are directed to those links.

ALL the links state no aerial antennae are allowed. And yet - they are allowed. ALL the links state no clotheslines are allowed. And yet - they are allowed. State law allows them, and state law prohibits communities from forbidding them.

It still isn't a good idea to do these things, because neighbors are going by the restrictions even though the restrictions are not enforceable. You -cannot- be fined for having a clothesline in your back yard. However, you CAN be visited every single day for the rest of your life when your neighbor complains that you have one, because the people paid to check out complaints, have to do that every time one comes in.

You basically have to weigh your priorities. Is it that important to put a jet-ski that you won't be using more than 2-3 months out of the year, in your driveway where its very existence is likely to create hostility among your otherwise peaceful neighbors? If so, go for it. If not, store it somewhere.

Most properties on this side of the Villages are modular/mobile/manufactured homes. They are on small lots without room for expanded garages. Some do have room, most do not. Most of them don't have any garage at all; instead, they have car ports and attached laundry sheds.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

if you go to the links provided every time anyone links to them on ToTV, you will see only the original documents to area 7 (which is the area you seem to be interested in).

The original documents were written a few decades ago and the link itself was never updated.

This is one of the reasons why new potential homeowners get so confused and frustrated when we ask about restrictions and are directed to those links.

ALL the links state no aerial antennae are allowed. And yet - they are allowed. ALL the links state no clotheslines are allowed. And yet - they are allowed. State law allows them, and state law prohibits communities from forbidding them.

It still isn't a good idea to do these things, because neighbors are going by the restrictions even though the restrictions are not enforceable. You -cannot- be fined for having a clothesline in your back yard. However, you CAN be visited every single day for the rest of your life when your neighbor complains that you have one, because the people paid to check out complaints, have to do that every time one comes in.

You basically have to weigh your priorities. Is it that important to put a jet-ski that you won't be using more than 2-3 months out of the year, in your driveway where its very existence is likely to create hostility among your otherwise peaceful neighbors? If so, go for it. If not, store it somewhere.

Most properties on this side of the Villages are modular/mobile/manufactured homes. They are on small lots without room for expanded garages. Some do have room, most do not. Most of them don't have any garage at all; instead, they have car ports and attached laundry sheds.

Also just as an aside - you really won't have any need for a lawn tractor at a home in the historical side of the villages. The properties themselves are small. If you are in fit condition you could use a non-powered hand-mower; a 2HP gas powered push-mower is more than sufficient.

A lawn tractor would just be more stuff taking up room on property that has very little storage space.

[PugMom]

some of the new homes in marsh bend & over in linden have sizeable garages, maybe take a look over there,?

[graciegirl]

Also just as an aside - you really won't have any need for a lawn tractor at a home in the historical side of the villages. The properties themselves are small. If you are in fit condition you could use a non-powered hand-mower; a 2HP gas powered push-mower is more than sufficient.

A lawn tractor would just be more stuff taking up room on property that has very little storage space.

Many pay thirty five dollars a month for grass cutting, but that is year around. It is much less expensive here than it is where most of us are from.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Here are the restrictions:




Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

This is very confusing to most people who live in the "Historic" section, because we don't live in a CDD at all. Also almost all of the information about rules and regs, policies and maintenance/infrastructure pertains specifically to Sumter County, not Lake or even Marion.

There is a CDD 7, which includes Odell Circle but not anything on the other side of 441.

But on the other side of 441, where I live near the country club, my deed restriction is for "L7." Our district doesn't have a number.

My property isn't even one of those "enclave parcels" whatever that means, according to the district map.

The fact that these deed restrictions are outdated, include incorrect information, and parts of them cannot be enforced, means that *someone* has neglected to keep these things up to date.

Even in the condos I lived in, back north, had yearly updates and addendums that were made available to every single property owner and tenant, and updates were available online and at the town engineer's office.

Down here, the deed restrictions aren't even a hyperlink. They were typed on a manual typewriter and poorly photocopied, the copy poorly scanned, and then uploaded. They really need to make this easier for the current generation of "old folks" to read. Most of us are computer literate and can see clearly that this was all done in the age of the dinosaur and no one bothered to update it.

[mattlongrealtor]

That's because the "Historic District" is not one of the VCDD districts, it's a part of The Villages, but are under Lake County. There are also no bonds or maintenance assessments in the "Histric District".

[CWGUY]

:) For the people that don't know where to look and/or don't open any links:


:ho:

The Lady Lake / Lake County portion of The Villages consists of 5,693 home sites that are located in the Town of Lady Lake and a portion of un-incorporated Lake County. The Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages is not located in the geographical boundaries of a Community Development District, but is in the service area of the Village Center Community Development District (VCCDD).

Among the services provided by VCCDD to residential properties in Lady Lake/Lake County are security, fire and emergency medical first response (non-transport) services, recreational facilities and services, stormwater collection and distribution and treated effluent distribution, and executive golf. These services are paid for through the receipt of monthly contractual amenity fees paid by each residential property within the service area of the VCCDD, as described by the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions applying to each residential property.

The Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages is governed by the VCCDD. In addition, the VCCDD provides common area maintenance and Deed Compliance services. The Amenity Authority Committee (AAC) is a committee of the VCCDD that oversees amenity fee revenues and expenditures and related policies for properties in the VCCDD service area. A resident from the Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages serves on the AAC.

[OhioBuckeye]

Also just as an aside - you really won't have any need for a lawn tractor at a home in the historical side of the villages. The properties themselves are small. If you are in fit condition you could use a non-powered hand-mower; a 2HP gas powered push-mower is more than sufficient.

A lawn tractor would just be more stuff taking up room on property that has very little storage space.
Sorry, but how did this comment & the answer to this question get on lawn mowers? Don’t get your answer!

[CWGUY]

Sorry, but how did this comment & the answer to this question get on lawn mowers? Don’t get your answer!

:ohdear: IMHO the question was asked by OP and everything after post #4 where it was answered is :blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah: Including this post :oops:

:icon_wink: I'm surprised the SPCA doesn't get on us for the way we love to beat a dead horse.......:0000000000luvmyhors

[Double Eagle]

:) For the people that don't know where to look and/or don't open any links:


:ho:

The Lady Lake / Lake County portion of The Villages consists of 5,693 home sites that are located in the Town of Lady Lake and a portion of un-incorporated Lake County. The Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages is not located in the geographical boundaries of a Community Development District, but is in the service area of the Village Center Community Development District (VCCDD).

Among the services provided by VCCDD to residential properties in Lady Lake/Lake County are security, fire and emergency medical first response (non-transport) services, recreational facilities and services, stormwater collection and distribution and treated effluent distribution, and executive golf. These services are paid for through the receipt of monthly contractual amenity fees paid by each residential property within the service area of the VCCDD, as described by the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions applying to each residential property.

The Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages is governed by the VCCDD. In addition, the VCCDD provides common area maintenance and Deed Compliance services. The Amenity Authority Committee (AAC) is a committee of the VCCDD that oversees amenity fee revenues and expenditures and related policies for properties in the VCCDD service area. A resident from the Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages serves on the AAC.

Thank you. This is what I have found confusing. Although I have bought 5 homes, I have never seen anything similar to the way these "districts" are structured.

This is helpful. :coolsmiley:

[Double Eagle]

Thanks for all the replies.

Just to be clear: I don't want to park anything in the driveway except for an SUV or a small pickup truck. The small boat would be under a carport, in a garage, or covered and parked in a side or back yard depending on the lot. I don't have or want a canoe.


Same for the jet-ski. BTW We use them 5-6 months of the year here in VA. I don't know why they would only be used 2-3 months of the year in FL.

I like cutting my own grass and a manual push mower is out of the question. I don't think a small riding mower will be a problem, I probably should not have even mentioned it.

[asianthree]

Thanks for all the replies.

Just to be clear: I don't want to park anything in the driveway except for an SUV or a small pickup truck. The small boat would be under a carport, in a garage, or covered and parked in a side or back yard depending on the lot. I don't have or want a canoe.


Same for the jet-ski. BTW We use them 5-6 months of the year here in VA. I don't know why they would only be used 2-3 months of the year in FL. There are plenty of storage units near TV.

I like cutting my own grass and a manual push mower is out of the question. I don't think a small riding mower will be a problem, I probably should not have even mentioned it.

Have you visited TV. The lots are postage size. Unless you are on an oversized lot, your back yard may only be 5 to 10 feet. Side yard 10’, or less. Anything parked outside and covered would not make many happy to look out their window to see a blue tarp.

[Double Eagle]

Have you visited TV. The lots are postage size. Unless you are on an oversized lot, your back yard may only be 5 to 10 feet. Side yard 10’, or less. Anything parked outside and covered would not make many happy to look out their window to see a blue tarp.

I have driven through the area, have not visited. I have looked at many listings online. I have google mapped most of the area and I think I may be able to find what I am looking for. Maybe not.

I would not use a "blue tarp" to cover a pile of manure. The manure would look better.

[Bogie Shooter]

I have driven through the area, have not visited. I have looked at many listings online. I have google mapped most of the area and I think I may be able to find what I am looking for. Maybe not.

I would not use a "blue tarp" to cover a pile of manure. The manure would look better.

I think a visit is in order for you to get a better understanding of what is going on...………
BTW beyond the historical side......nothing is parked in a side or back yard.

[graciegirl]

Thanks for all the replies.

Just to be clear: I don't want to park anything in the driveway except for an SUV or a small pickup truck. The small boat would be under a carport, in a garage, or covered and parked in a side or back yard depending on the lot. I don't have or want a canoe.


Same for the jet-ski. BTW We use them 5-6 months of the year here in VA. I don't know why they would only be used 2-3 months of the year in FL.

I like cutting my own grass and a manual push mower is out of the question. I don't think a small riding mower will be a problem, I probably should not have even mentioned it.

Against the rules. No jet ski or small boat..

[asianthree]

I have driven through the area, have not visited. I have looked at many listings online. I have google mapped most of the area and I think I may be able to find what I am looking for. Maybe not.

I would not use a "blue tarp" to cover a pile of manure. The manure would look better.

So to give you an idea lawn ornaments are not allowed. One can only put out holiday decorations for 30 days. There is even a problem with tiny white cross in yards.

[Double Eagle]

Against the rules. No jet ski or small boat..

Yes. If I read the correct restrictions, it/they would have to be inside a garage.

[Double Eagle]

I think a visit is in order for you to get a better understanding of what is going on...………
BTW beyond the historical side......nothing is parked in a side or back yard.

Yes, of course. In fact I plan an extended visit before I buy.

But, I have already learned a lot from this forum and other online sources.

All comments appreciated. :)

[Double Eagle]

So to give you an idea lawn ornaments are not allowed. One can only put out holiday decorations for 30 days. There is even a problem with tiny white cross in yards.

Yeah. And this is the sort of thing I will need to consider making my decision. I am a live and let live sort of guy. I have read stories of people being upset in TV because they don't like where a neighbor's satellite dish is installed. There are federal guidelines about those and you can't just put one in a place to suit your neighbor. They have to be situated in line of sight of the satellite.

I will be downsizing from a home situated on 13 acres and a 4 acre lawn. I know this will be a big change for me and will require some concessions on my part, but I'm tired of the upkeep. I love the thought of jumping on my own golf cart and driving to a course nearby, or not so close for that matter, as well as the other things TV has to offer.

[OhioBuckeye]

:ohdear: IMHO the question was asked by OP and everything after post #4 where it was answered is :blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah: Including this post :oops:

:icon_wink: I'm surprised the SPCA doesn't get on us for the way we love to beat a dead horse.......:0000000000luvmyhors

OK, got it now,sorry, thanks!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yeah. And this is the sort of thing I will need to consider making my decision. I am a live and let live sort of guy. I have read stories of people being upset in TV because they don't like where a neighbor's satellite dish is installed. There are federal guidelines about those and you can't just put one in a place to suit your neighbor. They have to be situated in line of sight of the satellite.

I will be downsizing from a home situated on 13 acres and a 4 acre lawn. I know this will be a big change for me and will require some concessions on my part, but I'm tired of the upkeep. I love the thought of jumping on my own golf cart and driving to a course nearby, or not so close for that matter, as well as the other things TV has to offer.

There aren't any federal guidelines about parking a jet ski on your lawn. That's up to the deed restrictions, and there's one part of the deed restrictions that is present in all of them - it has to do with aesthetics.

Yes it's a loose guideline, it's not strictly defined. There's no clear line as to what violates it and what doesn't. But I'd have to say that if I look out my window, and the view between the yard and the neighbor's yard is blocked by an RV, then whoever owns that RV is violating that rule of aesthetics. You're not allowed to have fences, and hedges can't be more than 4 feet high. So there's no way in hades that they're going to let you keep an RV or any other "tall thing" in your yard. Not the back yard, side, or front yard.

You won't see cars on cement blocks even in the old section where the restrictions are looser. You won't see people changing the oil in their driveways. We're not quite as perfect and pristine as our "lower" neighbors but we do like things to look relatively tidy. A jet-ski in the driveway 24/7 is not tidy. A lawnmower can easily be hidden behind the golf cart, but a lawn tractor can't. If your home comes with a golf cart garage, you could certainly store the tractor in there, and leave the golf cart in the driveway. But then it'll be subject to the elements and rain storms on upholstery isn't much fun when you have to drive in the thing the next day.

[Double Eagle]

There aren't any federal guidelines about parking a jet ski on your lawn. That's up to the deed restrictions, and there's one part of the deed restrictions that is present in all of them - it has to do with aesthetics.

Yes it's a loose guideline, it's not strictly defined. There's no clear line as to what violates it and what doesn't. But I'd have to say that if I look out my window, and the view between the yard and the neighbor's yard is blocked by an RV, then whoever owns that RV is violating that rule of aesthetics. You're not allowed to have fences, and hedges can't be more than 4 feet high. So there's no way in hades that they're going to let you keep an RV or any other "tall thing" in your yard. Not the back yard, side, or front yard.

You won't see cars on cement blocks even in the old section where the restrictions are looser. You won't see people changing the oil in their driveways. We're not quite as perfect and pristine as our "lower" neighbors but we do like things to look relatively tidy. A jet-ski in the driveway 24/7 is not tidy. A lawnmower can easily be hidden behind the golf cart, but a lawn tractor can't. If your home comes with a golf cart garage, you could certainly store the tractor in there, and leave the golf cart in the driveway. But then it'll be subject to the elements and rain storms on upholstery isn't much fun when you have to drive in the thing the next day.

I never said there were federal guidelines about parking anything. It was an illustrative point about what can upset a neighbor.

You keep talking about RV's which I don't have, nor have asked about.

As far as changing oil and vehicles on cinderblocks, I don't see where either has anything to do with my questions.

I made it clear what I intend to park in the driveway. I also stated I have read and understand the restrictions vis-a-vis the parking of boats.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I was giving examples of the types of things that would be over the top. Since, when you first posted, you didn't say what kind of boat you had, and you didn't say in your first post that your lawnmower was a lawn tractor...

So rather than account for every possible thing you didn't say but actually meant to include, I figured I'd give an example of the TYPES of things that would be tolerated and the TYPES of things that would not. Your mileage may vary.

[anothersteve]

You won't see people changing the oil in their driveways. We're not quite as perfect and pristine as our "lower" neighbors but we do like things to look relatively tidy.

I change my vehicles oil in my driveway. As far as I know there are no restrictions on that anywhere in TV.
Steve

[Double Eagle]

I was giving examples of the types of things that would be over the top. Since, when you first posted, you didn't say what kind of boat you had, and you didn't say in your first post that your lawnmower was a lawn tractor...

So rather than account for every possible thing you didn't say but actually meant to include, I figured I'd give an example of the TYPES of things that would be tolerated and the TYPES of things that would not. Your mileage may vary.

I don't know how you would know what I meant to include. I included everything I meant to include.

If it is important, and makes a difference to you, my boat is a vintage 1972 Checkmate. It is a 16 foot long speed/ski boat. It is about 2 feet tall and metalflake blue.

As far as the riding mower, I have 4 or 5 of those but will probably buy a new one to suit the needs once I buy my new place. Also, I never used the term "lawn tractor." I don't know why, but you did. No I did not say it and don't understand why you think I should have.

[dewilson58]

Can't imagine any neighbor will be excited about a boat, a mower, a RV, a sofa, a service truck, or a hot tub being stored on a driveway.


That's jus me.

[Spalumbos62]

Lower neighbor's?????

[asianthree]

Lower neighbor's?????
OrangeBlossom is in Historic district, she is referring to neighbors south of her or lower part of TV. I got the reference

[Taosmtngal]

Consider other options. Areas. The Villages has many problems, with the generation that is currently in control. Be forewarned. Do your research . Before you commit

[Velvet]

I agree, there is a homogeneity and expectation currently and you may want to find out if you are happy with that. Very close to the Villages there are larger properties with no deed restrictions that I am aware of. My husband and I looked at those before buying but I like the “manicured” lawns. As well as many other things about TV. I walked along my street the other day and noticed a floss pick on the road. The next day when I took my daily walk, it was gone! Nothing, not a gum wrapper, not even a leaf on the whole road. Lovely!

[Marathon Man]

Consider other options. Areas. The Villages has many problems, with the generation that is currently in control. Be forewarned. Do your research . Before you commit

This is a belief on the part of some people. It is only a belief. Others feel quite differently.

[Double Eagle]

Thank everyone for their input. As stated above I have read and understand the regulations.

Did anyone figure out what "Enclave Parcels" means?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Thank everyone for their input. As stated above I have read and understand the regulations.

Did anyone figure out what "Enclave Parcels" means?

I know what an enclaved parcel is, in general, but I'm not sure how it's applied in the Villages.

It would be an annexed area - property that would normally be part of one designated area, but has become separate from it.

In the case of the Lady Lakes section of the Villages that is sectioned off as "Enclave Parcels" it MIGHT mean that this section has been made part of the Spanish Springs "territory" on the west side of 441, even though it is located on the east side of 441 (where 441 physically travels north to south). Or it might be completely annexed and not part of either side. Regardless, I don't know what it would "mean" with regards to services, taxes, and so on.

Does the county line cross over in that area? I know the line of Sumter and Lake counties are right in that vicinity. According to the sign on 441 if you are travelling SOUTH of the Boone Gate, you are then welcomed to Lake County. If you are driving NORTH of the Boone Gate, the sign says welcome to Sumter County.

And yet - I live north of the Boone Gate, and my property is in Lake County.

So maybe it has something to do with the county lines.

Hopefully someone else can find an answer - a google search came up with only definitions of the term, and a few documents from California regional government offices.

[Bogie Shooter]

There aren't any federal guidelines about parking a jet ski on your lawn. That's up to the deed restrictions, and there's one part of the deed restrictions that is present in all of them - it has to do with aesthetics.

Yes it's a loose guideline, it's not strictly defined. There's no clear line as to what violates it and what doesn't. But I'd have to say that if I look out my window, and the view between the yard and the neighbor's yard is blocked by an RV, then whoever owns that RV is violating that rule of aesthetics. You're not allowed to have fences, and hedges can't be more than 4 feet high. So there's no way in hades that they're going to let you keep an RV or any other "tall thing" in your yard. Not the back yard, side, or front yard.

You won't see cars on cement blocks even in the old section where the restrictions are looser. You won't see people changing the oil in their driveways. We're not quite as perfect and pristine as our "lower" neighbors but we do like things to look relatively tidy. A jet-ski in the driveway 24/7 is not tidy. A lawnmower can easily be hidden behind the golf cart, but a lawn tractor can't. If your home comes with a golf cart garage, you could certainly store the tractor in there, and leave the golf cart in the driveway. But then it'll be subject to the elements and rain storms on upholstery isn't much fun when you have to drive in the thing the next day.

I never said there were federal guidelines about parking anything. It was an illustrative point about what can upset a neighbor.

You keep talking about RV's which I don't have, nor have asked about.

As far as changing oil and vehicles on cinderblocks, I don't see where either has anything to do with my questions.

I made it clear what I intend to park in the driveway. I also stated I have read and understand the restrictions vis-a-vis the parking of boats.

You will always get plenty of info..........:clap2:

[CWGUY]

Thank everyone for their input. As stated above I have read and understand the regulations.

Did anyone figure out what "Enclave Parcels" means?

:) any small, distinct area or group enclosed or isolated within a larger one

I would think maybe like "Hickory Head Hammock" or "Lakes and Live Oaks" off 466

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

:) any small, distinct area or group enclosed or isolated within a larger one

I would think maybe like "Hickory Head Hammock" or "Lakes and Live Oaks" off 466

That's the same way I understood it to mean but it really doesn't *appear to* apply to the mapped section on the district map. The section is just part of the "historic" area of the Villages, it's not isolated away from it, or enclosed by it.

The "enclave" is the section that includes Aloha Way, Shay Boulevard, Silver Oak Avenue, and *parts* of Tarrson - but not all of it.

I don't know how these streets or properties differ from the rest of the Orange Blossom side of the Villages. What is it about these properties that make them an "enclave parcel?"

[njbchbum]

Thank everyone for their input. As stated above I have read and understand the regulations.

Did anyone figure out what "Enclave Parcels" means?

I believe it all has to do with which govt agency provides local infrastructure services to 'enclave properties'. I often see a report of the annexation of one or more properties in town/county meeting minutes.

Here's a PDF re the boundaries of Interlocal Service within Lake County/Town of Lady Lake [et al] https://www.lakecountyfl.gov/pdfs/CountyAttorney/PublicHearing_082713_LadyLakeISBA.pdf

Though an older proposed ordinance document the end pages do show the map of the enclave streets as of the time the ordinance was drawn - likely to have changed a bit by now.

Actual Info can probably best be obtained from Jim Richards who I believe lives on the historic side and still sits on the Lady Lake board of town commissioners.

Hoe this helps.

[champion6]

Thank everyone for their input. As stated above I have read and understand the regulations.

Did anyone figure out what "Enclave Parcels" means?This and many other matters are covered during this weekly, 2-hour meeting. It is very informative and well worth your time to attend. From the District website:

Community Development District Orientation
You are invited to attend our "Introduction to your Special Purpose Local Government" informational program. You will learn how the districts operate and learn other important community information about the people, services, and other supporting entities that help make The Villages a premier community.

No sign-ups or fees are required for this presentation. Sessions are held every Thursday at 10:00 a.m. at the District Office, 984 Old Mill Run.

You may call 352-753-4508 for additional information.

[rwfisher1969]

Can't imagine any neighbor will be excited about a boat, a mower, a RV, a sofa, a service truck, or a hot tub being stored on a driveway.


That's jus me.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Double Eagle]

I believe it all has to do with which govt agency provides local infrastructure services to 'enclave properties'. I often see a report of the annexation of one or more properties in town/county meeting minutes.

Here's a PDF re the boundaries of Interlocal Service within Lake County/Town of Lady Lake [et al] https://www.lakecountyfl.gov/pdfs/CountyAttorney/PublicHearing_082713_LadyLakeISBA.pdf

Though an older proposed ordinance document the end pages do show the map of the enclave streets as of the time the ordinance was drawn - likely to have changed a bit by now.

Actual Info can probably best be obtained from Jim Richards who I believe lives on the historic side and still sits on the Lady Lake board of town commissioners.

Hoe this helps.

I think I'm beginning to piece this together. The FL statute (sec.171.46) reflects the intent of the state to eliminate "enclave areas" because they are a source of confusion and are not an efficient way for a locality to deliver services. It also describes the manner in which localities may accomplish this.

In this particular case there is the county, the town, and the VCCDD. The town seeks to have the enclave areas incorporated into their jurisdiction by annexation. The three parties must agree on how this is done. Specifically, who will provide what during and after the transition. The legislature has given the localities great latitude on how to accomplish this.

The map shows the affected enclave areas. This is where I am a bit lost. Does the map reflect the "enclaves" as of 2013, or is it up to date, or is it partially updated?

How did some homes on some streets become part of the enclave, and have houses on either side of them that are not included?

[njbchbum]

I think I'm beginning to piece this together. The FL statute (sec.171.46) reflects the intent of the state to eliminate "enclave areas" because they are a source of confusion and are not an efficient way for a locality to deliver services. It also describes the manner in which localities may accomplish this.

In this particular case there is the county, the town, and the VCCDD. The town seeks to have the enclave areas incorporated into their jurisdiction by annexation. The three parties must agree on how this is done. Specifically, who will provide what during and after the transition. The legislature has given the localities great latitude on how to accomplish this.

The map shows the affected enclave areas. This is where I am a bit lost. Does the map reflect the "enclaves" as of 2013, or is it up to date, or is it partially updated?

How did some homes on some streets become part of the enclave, and have houses on either side of them that are not included?

Since the map is attached to the 2013 proposed ordinance - my guess it is of 2013 vintage. I know I have read of lots being annexed as the Developer bought a manufactured home and replaced it with a site built home.

How this happened is still the puzzlement - thus my suggestion to talk with Jim Richardson. Or perhaps the Lady Lake Town Manager can explain.

[Double Eagle]

Since the map is attached to the 2013 proposed ordinance - my guess it is of 2013 vintage. I know I have read of lots being annexed as the Developer bought a manufactured home and replaced it with a site built home.

How this happened is still the puzzlement - thus my suggestion to talk with Jim Richardson. Or perhaps the Lady Lake Town Manager can explain.

Thank you njbchbum. I don't think I'll contact them until and unless I wind up buying in that area. Although it sure is an oddity to me. :shocked: