Golf cart stopped for speeding on St. Charles

[Chatbrat]

The same Sumter County deputy who stopped my wife for speeding on St Charles about a month ago, stopped a golf cart yesterday-my wife was lucky she got a warning, if the golf cart driver isn't as lucky as she was--its going to cost him big $$$

So if your cart can exceed 20 mph, be very careful on St Charles

[karostay]

The same Sumter County deputy who stopped my wife for speeding on St Charles about a month ago, stopped a golf cart yesterday-my wife was lucky she got a warning, if the golf cart driver isn't as lucky as she was--its going to cost him big $$$

So if your cart can exceed 20 mph, be very careful on St
Charles

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow: Hope they pull over more no warnings write tickets

[golfing eagles]

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow: Hope they pull over more no warnings write tickets

Why? I personally don't see the capital offense in driving a cart at 20.1 mph, while it is getting passed by a car going 45 and hanging 2 feet over the white line. Can anyone spell "fundraiser"?

[Chatbrat]

I have too agree with the term "fundraiser" the old term "9 you're fine" , "10 you're mine"--in Fl more than 9 mph over the speed limit is when the bigger $$ kicks in--

[dewilson58]

Hey Chat...............was the officer following your wife or was he/she doing radar??

[Chatbrat]

She was driving a service loaner, a really big SUV, which she hates--the LEO was in the opposite direction he did a U-turn & pulled her over-- he was using radar--it can get U coming or going

[dewilson58]

She was driving a service loaner, a really big SUV, which she hates--the LEO was in the opposite direction he did a U-turn & pulled her over-- he was using radar--it can get U coming or going




a u-turn......must not have used his lights for a while.

[John_W]

When the cops set up, they're usually a little further up on Baileys Trail by Cane Garden. They park by the pump house near the first hole on Allamanda nine. Back in December they were set up all along that area for a week or two. I dialed my cart back a couple of years ago, I had it sped up for about five years. I found it didn't really make that big a deal taking five minutes more to get somewhere. Think about it, if you have an accident do you want to risk your insurance being voided.

As Chatbrat said, it's expensive. It's not a speeding ticket, since you're no longer operating in the state of Florida prescribed as a golf cart, you'll given a ticket for driving an unregistered vehicle. Since you're going over 20mph, they consider you should been licensed. I believe the final tally will be about $450 in costs. You'll have to get a letter from a licensed mechanic that your cart was dialed back to to cart speed. You'll need to go to court in Bushnell and if you make the mistake up showing up in shorts, even at 10am, your case will be pushed to the end of the day, about 4:30.

This was in the Villages News online paper. Serious accident first week of the year 2020 in the Village of Winifred. A 70 year old villager drove in front of an SUV, he had to be airlifted to Ocala Regional. They write, the sheriff's office said there were 29 golf cart crashes in the Sumter County portion of The Villages in the final quarter of 2019. Eighteen tickets were issued that same quarter to golf cart operators.

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[Chatbrat]

Besides having an unregistered vehicle, they can add on, uninsured vehicle, lacking proper equipment--seat belts, wipers & speeding--they can be very creative--I've heard of persons paying in excess of $1200

[JSR22]

Besides having an unregistered vehicle, they can add on, uninsured vehicle, lacking proper equipment--seat belts, wipers & speeding--they can be very creative--I've heard of persons paying in excess of $1200
I know 2 people who were ticketed for golf cart speeding. The fines came in under $500

[Laker14]

I know 2 people who were ticketed for golf cart speeding. The fines came in under $500

do you know how fast they were going?

[JSR22]

Close to 30.

[karostay]

Breaking the law is breaking the law whats not to understand
People have their own set of rules to live by

[golfing eagles]

Breaking the law is breaking the law whats not to understand
People have their own set of rules to live by

Some laws make more sense than others.

For example, in Kansas, the law states when two trains approach each other, both must stop and NEITHER may start until the other one does:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[karostay]

Some laws make more sense than others.

For example, in Kansas, the law states when two trains approach each other, both must stop and NEITHER may start until the other one does:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Your not in Kansas any longer

[golfing eagles]

Your not in Kansas any longer

Darn. Toto told me we were:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Villageswimmer]

Your not in Kansas any longer


Good one!

[Laker14]

Breaking the law is breaking the law whats not to understand
People have their own set of rules to live by

do you never knowingly exceed the posted speed limit in your automobile? Not even a little bit?

[Laker14]

Close to 30.

Wow! The reason I asked is I have read posts before about how expensive it is to get stopped going over 20, and heard of people getting ticketed for speeding in their golf carts.
Yet, when I go 20mph in my cart, most of the cart traffic is going 22-23 mph. It seems to me that if the police wanted to enforce it down to 20mph, they would run out of paper to write tickets on way before they ran out of speeders.
30 is crazy.

[JoMar]

Only laws that we think should be enforced have any validity. The rest of the laws are stupid and therefore we will choose to ignore them. :)

[mulligan]

You have to understand that if they stop you for exceeding 20 mph. it is not a speeding ticket. It is a criminal citation for operating an improperly equipped uninsured low speed vehicle. You can be cited for each equipment violation and it adds up quickly. It is also a mandatory court appearance.

[Nucky]

Just gimme the ticket and lemme go! I gotta be on time for Aruba, I mean Zumba!

If you get a speeding ticket in a Golf Cart you are a BoneHead! If you get in an accident I feel sorry for you! If you get into or cause an accident while speeding you are a Double BoneHead! Live & Hopefully Let Live!

[Nucky]

Get the person who got the ticket to post and then prove it with paperwork or else Forgetabouit! It's all a bunch of bull!

[VApeople]

do you never knowingly exceed the posted speed limit in your automobile?

No.

To be honest, I sometimes accidentally exceed the speed limit. Like going 39 mph on Morse. When that happens, I immediately slow down to 35 mph.

[billethkid]

At 22-24 mph VS 19-20 how much time is saved?
I say ticket as many as possible.
Let the tickets subsidize the extra police force to do so.

[photo1902]

:rolleyes:No.

To be honest, I sometimes accidentally exceed the speed limit. Like going 39 mph on Morse. When that happens, I immediately slow down to 35 mph.

[karostay]

do you never knowingly exceed the posted speed limit in your automobile? Not even a little bit?

Rarely

[Nucky]

Is there such a thing as a PBA card available from the Sheriffs in our area? I had forgotten about those helpful little cards. If you got lucky enough to get a Metal one from the Chief Of Police you were in good shape.

They probably have a card like that but if you have a Palm Tree on your property or can't stand 2 feet from a pond to fish then they know you are not a native and won't give you a Get Outta Jail Free Card.

I don't speed in my gas golf cart because its not safe and I can't in the electric cart because it won't speed, maybe it will tonight with the big a wind! :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Chill out cause nobody is going to change their driving habits at our age, very few anyway. :boxing2:

[arbajeda]

One of the presentations at the VHA New Resident Night (held monthly) is by the district judge. He lays out what will happen if you get a speeding ticket in a golf cart. Lots of other good info there, too.

[DecaturFargo]

Radar has to be calibrated. They can be off. Request a certificate from the police, if you go to court, that shows that the radar was working properly.

[GoPacers]

Never say never but getting a ticket for 22-23mph in a golf cart seems excessive. Even if your cart is set to 20mph there will be times when it can exceed that speed for a brief period of time. These are mechanically limited and engine output can/will vary depending on a lot of factors.

Getting a ticket for 28-30mph seems more than warranted and I can't say I have much sympathy if that is the case here.

[boatorgolf]

Retired ! Just follow the rules and slow down. There are reasons for the rules. Sit on my front porch and watch the near misses between cars, golf maintenance equipment, carts, and pedestrians !
Lakewood Drive ☹️

[karostay]

Retired ! Just follow the rules and slow down. There are reasons for the rules. Sit on my front porch and watch the near misses between cars, golf maintenance equipment, carts, and pedestrians !
Lakewood Drive ☹️


Doesn't any simpler than that :clap2:

[Fastskiguy]

I'm surprised they are going after golf cars when automobiles are cruising at 45 up and down morse, bv, and warm springs all day long.

I can't say I don't push it myself but, personally, I remember "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

[patemack12]

They give most females warnings as long as they have not used drugs or alcohol but most males get ticketed.

[percival]

This accident was precipitated by the cart driver suffering a stroke before the accident.

[MEbner2805]

Why? I personally don't see the capital offense in driving a cart at 20.1 mph, while it is getting passed by a car going 45 and hanging 2 feet over the white line. Can anyone spell "fundraiser"?
No! People modify the carts to go faster and so if they get caught going over 20, it’s a good thing! I wonder if the street legal carts all go faster than 20mph?

[genobambino]

Golf carts going faster than 20mph is just plain dangerous, there not designed to go fast, steering, suspension, small tires all makes them very unsafe at speeds above 20

[JSR22]

No! People modify the carts to go faster and so if they get caught going over 20, it’s a good thing! I wonder if the street legal carts all go faster than 20mph?


Street legal speed is up to 24.

[theruizs]

I'm surprised they are going after golf cars when automobiles are cruising at 45 up and down morse, bv, and warm springs all day long.

I can't say I don't push it myself but, personally, I remember "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

Yes, especially some of the vendors with huge trucks and some pulling trailers speeding through neighborhoods. Very dangerous.

There is a difference though with golf cart speeding. When you speed a little in a car it is already licensed, insured, and has a lot of safety equipment. Golf carts are not licensed, many are not insured (which is just stupid), and have very little safety equipment. That’s because they are built with the idea that they won’t be exceeding about 18mph (even though the speed limit is 20). So when you speed in a golf cart you are risking a lot and endangering others who are not.

On another note, I have a street legal LSV cart and it can do 25 tops, maybe 27 downhill. The extra cost IS NOT worth it here. I do not feel safe when driving it on the streets and end up just keeping to the golf cart lanes and 20mph anyway. Once in a while I’ll take a round-about to save time going out of the way to the tunnels, but I am nervous as heck the whole time. When I have taken the streets, the amount of time I save is very little, and in some cases it takes longer! When I do 25-27 on the golf cart paths (which could still get me a speeding ticket) I also don’t really save that much time, may a minute or two at most on the farthest drives. So 1) do not waste your money on street legal here, and 2) keep to 20mph, there is NO reason to speed. It saves you little and risks tickets, injury, or worse.

[Tall4mom]

Happy someone is getting golf cart speeders. Yes, the speed is still slow but when someone speeds up behind you and passes only to cut back in abruptly it is dangerous and frightening. Why are so many in such a hurry?

[tophcfa]

In my opinion, modifying your golf cart to go above 20 mph is a very dangerous and bad idea. I have been passed by some people that seem to have a death wish. On the other hand, people that insist on driving long stretches going well below 20 mph are equally as dangerous. I have often observed several frustrated carts getting stuck behind very slow drivers, resulting in people tailgating and dangerously passing the slow driver. Why can’t people simply have their carts set to max out at the legal speed limit and drive with the pedal to the floor on wide open safe stretches?

[JerryLBell]

I've got friends who insist that they've been told by "folks in the know" or "mechanics that work for The VIllages golf cart shops" that the speed limit for golf carts has been raised to 25 mph and have had their governors adjusted accordingly. I talked to a sheriff about that at one of those government open house events and he said that they most definitely have NOT raised the speed limit; that the limit is still 20 mph and is set by the state, NOT by The Villages. When I'm zipping along at 20 mph (I have a speedometer) on the multipurpose paths and I have golf carts go flying by me, I do wonder why they aren't getting stopped and ticketed more often (or at all). But then I drive the speed limit in my car too so maybe I'm just weird that way.

[Polar Bear]

...When I'm zipping along at 20 mph (I have a speedometer) on the multipurpose paths and I have golf carts go flying by me, I do wonder why they aren't getting stopped and ticketed more often (or at all). But then I drive the speed limit in my car too so maybe I'm just weird that way.
Good for you.

But if you drive the speed limit in your car, you must be getting passed by lots of cars that aren’t getting ticketed too. :)

[karostay]

I wonder how many engines fail after being tinkered with ?...I hear a few screaming

[Meloveday]

Thank you!

[Annie66]

Some laws make more sense than others.

For example, in Kansas, the law states when two trains approach each other, both must stop and NEITHER may start until the other one does:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Click your heels together, and say "There's no place like home."

[Laker14]

Golf carts going faster than 20mph is just plain dangerous, there not designed to go fast, steering, suspension, small tires all makes them very unsafe at speeds above 20

I'm not sure that's true. I think they are built and designed to go faster, which is why they are retro-fitted with a governor to keep them below the speed for which they were designed.

It's not that the cart can't take the speed, it's that the law requires the cart not go as fast as it's designed to go. At least, that's how I understand it.

[skullybiker]

golf carts should never of been allowed on public streets ...... there a danger

[tophcfa]

I'm not sure that's true. I think they are built and designed to go faster, which is why they are retro-fitted with a governor to keep them below the speed for which they were designed.

It's not that the cart can't take the speed, it's that the law requires the cart not go as fast as it's designed to go. At least, that's how I understand it.

If you don't think it's dangerous, try slamming on your brakes going 20 mph, like you may have to do sometime to avoid an accident. I think that will change your mind.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If you don't think it's dangerous, try slamming on your brakes going 20 mph, like you may have to do sometime to avoid an accident. I think that will change your mind.

or come down the golf cart bridge from Spanish Springs into the Paradise rec park area, without slowing down for the tree at the bend. At 20mph? No way. You will either hit the tree and catapult into the dog park lot, or you will tip over right after the tree and be crushed by your cart.

Golf carts are not designed to go past 15mph. They can tip more easily than cars, and most don't have doors to protect the driver. Even with seatbelts, there is risk. A good driver can easily go 18-20 but the vehicle isn't designed for it.

My cart can top 20mph, I tested it one day on a straight-away and it got to 21.3 (I have a speedometer). It's too loud at that speed, and I have no "need" to ever go that fast, so I keep it usually around 18mph except at turns and on the golf cart bridge - when I reduce it to around 12-13mph. That thing is scary!

[Laker14]

If you don't think it's dangerous, try slamming on your brakes going 20 mph, like you may have to do sometime to avoid an accident. I think that will change your mind.

My Toyota Highlander is designed to go really fast, certainly the 70mph speed limit of a Florida Interstate. That doesn't mean I should "slam on the brakes" at 70 mph.

My goodness...there is an element of danger in everything we do...20mph being no exception. 21 or 22 mph not being much different.

[Laker14]

or come down the golf cart bridge from Spanish Springs into the Paradise rec park area, without slowing down for the tree at the bend. At 20mph? No way. You will either hit the tree and catapult into the dog park lot, or you will tip over right after the tree and be crushed by your cart.

Golf carts are not designed to go past 15mph. They can tip more easily than cars, and most don't have doors to protect the driver. Even with seatbelts, there is risk. A good driver can easily go 18-20 but the vehicle isn't designed for it.

My cart can top 20mph, I tested it one day on a straight-away and it got to 21.3 (I have a speedometer). It's too loud at that speed, and I have no "need" to ever go that fast, so I keep it usually around 18mph except at turns and on the golf cart bridge - when I reduce it to around 12-13mph. That thing is scary!

And yet...you lived to tell about it.

The fact that a cart CAN go 22mph, is not the same thing as saying you must go that fast, regardless of what is ahead of you. My Highlander can go 100mph, yet I manage to drive it on curvy roads at 15mph.

[Fastskiguy]

My Toyota Highlander is designed to go really fast, certainly the 70mph speed limit of a Florida Interstate. That doesn't mean I should "slam on the brakes" at 70 mph.


Modern cars are designed to not be able to be flipped over by zigging, zagging, braking, etc.. You literally can't flip your Highlander over unless you are sliding sideways and hit a curb or something. Golf cars, on the other hand, just love to flip over. It's one of their favorite things to do and speed enhances this trait.

Look, our golf cars are designed with standard wheels and standard transmission. Every golf car in the villages has large wheels and high speed modifications to the transmission so it can go 20mph. Clearly we're running these at a higher speed than they were designed for.

Disclaimer, mine goes 22mph and that's how fast I go. I'm sorry for going off topic.

[Laker14]

I have no beef with what you say. I disagree with those who profess that driving a golf cart sensibly can't include a few mph over 20, regardless of what "the law" says. Frankly, I feel safer in a golf cart on a multi-modal, or on Canal St. going 22 mph than I do in my Highlander, on I-75, in bumper-to-bumper traffic going 75mph.
Arguing that my cart at 22 is "unsafe" because if I slam on the brakes or jerk the wheel viciously sideways at top speed it is likely to end badly is a stupid argument. It makes no more sense than saying I should not drive my car 50mph on a two lane road because if I do, and a truck going the other way crosses the midline, it will end badly.
Peace.

[EdFNJ]

Street legal speed is up to 24.
Not exactly. The law states a LSV (SL GC) CAN'T EXCEED 25 like a regular golf cart is CAN'T EXCEED 20 so 25 for a LSV and 20 for a GC is legal.

[Villagerjjm]

The Deputy Sheriffs may be in plain clothes driving unmarked cars. Also unmarked motorcycles. The radar may look like a pair of binoculars and the Sheriff using it may pretend to be bird watching. The radar also takes a photo. A Deputy Sheriff told me that a straight shot with an accurate reading can be made up to 1/2 mile distance and is acceptable as State evidence. Depending on the judge, you may face a $500.00 fine the first time. There are also other charges that may be applied, as mentioned in a previous post. The judge will wave additional charges pending on when you prove with a certified letter from a court designated technician that your golf cart is altered to have a maximum speed of 19.5 mph. If you get caught again within 5 years or within the term of the judge you appeared before, it is considered as an insult to the judicial system of Florida and then all the charges are reinstated in addition to the ones you just racked up on the second offense. The relatively small fine for the first time offender is basically a "gift". I think under Florida statutes, unregistered vehicle offenses can be a felony count. You do not want to be caught a second time!
There are also harsh fines for driving a golf cart on roads or crossing roads where they are not permitted. That is why you see signs that state "No Golf Carts Beyond This Point".
There are also rules of use that apply to the multi use paths. These are the paths that run parallel to the main roads (like Morse and Buena Vista Blvd.). Because they are available for use by golf carts, bicycles, in-line skaters and general pedestrians those paths are also restricted to prohibit vehicles that can travel faster than 19.5mph. That is why you do not see motorcycles, mini bikes, go carts or mopeds on those paths. I have heard from law enforcement that there are actions that can be taken against people that show disregard to those rules but I have not heard of any instances where they have been enforced.
Now, with the advent of the new Atomic Golf Carts using the paths, and the fact that they can go well over the 19.5 mph limit, we may start seeing those rules enforced.

[Topspinmo]

No! People modify the carts to go faster and so if they get caught going over 20, it’s a good thing! I wonder if the street legal carts all go faster than 20mph?

You can bet on it. Who going pay for registration and insurance and go 20 MPH down BV or MB? Most can go over 30 mph. I got passed by on on BV going 37 in the right lane. I paced the par car going 39 MPH. To make it even more dangerous it was jacked up one.

[Topspinmo]

or come down the golf cart bridge from Spanish Springs into the Paradise rec park area, without slowing down for the tree at the bend. At 20mph? No way. You will either hit the tree and catapult into the dog park lot, or you will tip over right after the tree and be crushed by your cart.

Golf carts are not designed to go past 15mph. They can tip more easily than cars, and most don't have doors to protect the driver. Even with seatbelts, there is risk. A good driver can easily go 18-20 but the vehicle isn't designed for it.

My cart can top 20mph, I tested it one day on a straight-away and it got to 21.3 (I have a speedometer). It's too loud at that speed, and I have no "need" to ever go that fast, so I keep it usually around 18mph except at turns and on the golf cart bridge - when I reduce it to around 12-13mph. That thing is scary!

So, how do you know you’re speedometer accurate? You could of been going 23 or 24. Some shouldn’t be driving anything. I was behind a person that went around the roundabout on MMP and didn’t turn the steering wheel and bounced off the inner curb. Needless to say I stayed way back from that nut after that.

[Double Eagle]

or come down the golf cart bridge from Spanish Springs into the Paradise rec park area, without slowing down for the tree at the bend. At 20mph? No way. You will either hit the tree and catapult into the dog park lot, or you will tip over right after the tree and be crushed by your cart.

Golf carts are not designed to go past 15mph. They can tip more easily than cars, and most don't have doors to protect the driver. Even with seatbelts, there is risk. A good driver can easily go 18-20 but the vehicle isn't designed for it.

My cart can top 20mph, I tested it one day on a straight-away and it got to 21.3 (I have a speedometer). It's too loud at that speed, and I have no "need" to ever go that fast, so I keep it usually around 18mph except at turns and on the golf cart bridge - when I reduce it to around 12-13mph. That thing is scary!

So true about the cart. They are designed to carry 2 people and their gear on a golf course at about 10-15 mph. So, when you double that speed (which a lot of people want) and you lift the center of gravity (lifted carts) they can be dangerous. Add to that most of them only have mechanical rear brakes like a 1920's car.

Slow down and be safe.

[GoPacers]

So true about the cart. They are designed to carry 2 people and their gear on a golf course at about 10-15 mph. So, when you double that speed (which a lot of people want) and you lift the center of gravity (lifted carts) they can be dangerous. Add to that most of them only have mechanical rear brakes like a 1920's car.

Slow down and be safe.

I've been here for many years and I've never once have I had an issue with a driver of a golf cart going too fast...never. However, those of you that think 18mph is fast enough because you've personally decided that's as fast as you are comfortable driving do in fact cause a lot of problems. If you look in your rear-view mirror and see a line of 3 or more golf carts - pull over and let them by (and don't come post here thinking that everyone behind you is driving a corvette inspired golf cart).

I may have allowed the 5 extra minutes as some say to accommodate the 20mph speed limit but I didn't allow the 10+ extra minutes to follow behind someone going 18mph and 5mph around a turn that was designed for 15mph. Just because "you" are not comfortable driving a golf cart at 18mph doesn't mean the rest of us aren't comfortable driving a golf cart at 20mph.

[Mmarr]

Slow down.. is the perfect rule..
Love to see a few officers on Morse when non street legal feel they can pass other golf carts..
Big fines waiting..

[karostay]

I'm not sure that's true. I think they are built and designed to go faster, which is why they are retro-fitted with a governor to keep them below the speed for which they were designed.

It's not that the cart can't take the speed, it's that the law requires the cart not go as fast as it's designed to go. At least, that's how I understand it.


How do you retro fit a governor ?

[oemsp1]

The same Sumter County deputy who stopped my wife for speeding on St Charles about a month ago, stopped a golf cart yesterday-my wife was lucky she got a warning, if the golf cart driver isn't as lucky as she was--its going to cost him big $$$

So if your cart can exceed 20 mph, be very careful on St Charles

Got to love these old goats who tinker with their carts governor to go over 20 MPH, then use them as a penile extension to pass folks doing the speed limit.... When they get a ticket the cop ought to have the cart picked up, at the goat owners expense, examined, and if the governor has been tinkered with write the old goat another ticket!

[billmcnall]

Snowbirds should be required to read up on golf cart driving rules. In one day, last Tuesday, I saw a non-street legal golf cart on Buena Vista going around circle and later on, I saw one on Buena Vista turning onto Rt. 466. Both were regular Yamaha gas golf carts.

[John_W]

To modify the maximum speed on a Yamaha gas cart requires no tools, no retro fitting, a ty-wrap applied in the right spot will make your cart go from 20mph to 25.5 mph. To remove it, takes one second with a knife.

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BTW, the biggest mistake by new golf cart drivers in the area south of 466A. Are drivers going east on Pinellas and when they reach Morse, rather than turn left and go through the tunnel, they stay on Pinellas and go around the traffic circle in front of the fire station. One of the busiest and most dangerous traffic circles in TV. I've witnessed it a couple of times. Have to get to the Sarasota Driving Range or Walmart, can't take time for the tunnel.

[genobambino]

karosta, your right about engine failure, ask any certified mechanic and they will tell you that these little engines are not designed to go over 20, besides bearing failure the valves will get burned and ruin the engine. When you go thru a tunnel and smell the excess exhaust stink chances are the motor is getting ready to let go because they have them souped up

[karostay]

Got to love these old goats who tinker with their carts governor to go over 20 MPH, then use them as a penile extension to pass folks doing the speed limit.... When they get a ticket the cop ought to have the cart picked up, at the goat owners expense, examined, and if the governor has been tinkered with write the old goat another ticket!


Extra Ticket for what ? Tinkering ?

Thanks officer for my traffic Tinkering Ticket :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[kathyspear]

Snowbirds should be required to read up on golf cart driving rules. In one day, last Tuesday, I saw a non-street legal golf cart on Buena Vista going around circle and later on, I saw one on Buena Vista turning onto Rt. 466. Both were regular Yamaha gas golf carts.

The other day I saw one on Rolling Acres going south, just before 466. No plate on back of cart. :shocked:

kathy

[GoPacers]

[/B]enobambino;1716442]karosta, your right about engine failure, ask any certified mechanic and they will tell you that these little engines are not designed to go over 20, besides bearing failure the valves will get burned and ruin the engine. When you go thru a tunnel and smell the excess exhaust stink chances are the motor is getting ready to let go because they have them souped up

Glad you're not my mechanic. Anyone can increase the speed of their golf cart without touching the governor or the motor and without impacting engine performance.

[karostay]

Glad you're not my mechanic. Anyone can increase the speed of their golf cart without touching the governor or the motor and without impacting engine performance.

This explanation aught to be good new lesson in physics

[JRichm369]

There are quite a few golf carts that will exceed 20MPH, kind of funny that people start obeying laws when laws are enforced.

[Barefoot]

Hope they pull over more no warnings write tickets:agree:

[Barefoot]

Think about it, if you have an accident do you want to risk your insurance being voided.
The Villages Insurance told me that if you tinker with your golf cart to increase the speed, and you get in an accident,
you are NOT insured. A sobering thought.

[Barefoot]

Got to love these old goats who tinker with their carts governor to go over 20 MPH, then use them as a penile extension to pass folks doing the speed limit.... When they get a ticket the cop ought to have the cart picked up, at the goat owners expense, examined, and if the governor has been tinkered with write the old goat another ticket!:1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

My cart will only do 38mph on level ground.


I've heard that using seltzer water and filling all of the batteries to the very top...will give me more speed.








:D

[Double Eagle]

I've been here for many years and I've never once have I had an issue with a driver of a golf cart going too fast...never. However, those of you that think 18mph is fast enough because you've personally decided that's as fast as you are comfortable driving do in fact cause a lot of problems. If you look in your rear-view mirror and see a line of 3 or more golf carts - pull over and let them by (and don't come post here thinking that everyone behind you is driving a corvette inspired golf cart).

I may have allowed the 5 extra minutes as some say to accommodate the 20mph speed limit but I didn't allow the 10+ extra minutes to follow behind someone going 18mph and 5mph around a turn that was designed for 15mph. Just because "you" are not comfortable driving a golf cart at 18mph doesn't mean the rest of us aren't comfortable driving a golf cart at 20mph.

If you look above you will see my post was a response to OrangeBlossomBaby's concern regarding speed and safety making a turn. Where you live and how long you have been there has nothing to do with these realities. The laws of physics apply everywhere.

As far a me coming here posting about corvette inspired golf carts behind me, I made no such statement. If I had, you would know my thoughts on that. Why you felt a need to speculate what my thoughts are on a subject I never said anything about, I don't know.

[Bill1701]

I had been going 35 and was barely keeping up with a golf cart the other day. I passed him just at the merge point. He did not look happy. Too bad.

[GoPacers]

This explanation aught to be good new lesson in physics

Nothing new. The solution is as old as the wheel itself.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've been here for many years and I've never once have I had an issue with a driver of a golf cart going too fast...never. However, those of you that think 18mph is fast enough because you've personally decided that's as fast as you are comfortable driving do in fact cause a lot of problems. If you look in your rear-view mirror and see a line of 3 or more golf carts - pull over and let them by (and don't come post here thinking that everyone behind you is driving a corvette inspired golf cart).

I may have allowed the 5 extra minutes as some say to accommodate the 20mph speed limit but I didn't allow the 10+ extra minutes to follow behind someone going 18mph and 5mph around a turn that was designed for 15mph. Just because "you" are not comfortable driving a golf cart at 18mph doesn't mean the rest of us aren't comfortable driving a golf cart at 20mph.

Golf carts are not ALLOWED to exceed 20mph even if they can, even in an area where the speed limit is 25, if their cart is not street legal. Most carts are not street legal. Most carts can't go 20MPH unless they've been modified - they usually come with a top speed of 18mph.

Rental golf carts are set at 16mph max.

If you want to behave like speedy gonzalez and that extra 2mph is a deal-breaker for you, then street-legalize your golf cart and drive in the main traffic lane - and get off the golf cart paths entirely.

[GoPacers]

My golf cart is set at 20mph, just like it's supposed to be. Thank you for your concern though. It just doesn't bother me that others go faster than me.

[renpan]

We were told the speed limit for golf carts is 23 and that is what ours is calibrated.

Where is the 20mph limit i'm seeing?

[karostay]

Nothing new. The solution is as old as the wheel itself.

Please by all means enlighten us with your mechanical wisdom

[John_W]

We were told the speed limit for golf carts is 23 and that is what ours is calibrated.

Where is the 20mph limit i'm seeing?

320.055. (22) “Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0320/Sections/0320.01.html)

That's why earlier posts mentioned that the ticket you'll receive is not a speeding ticket, but for driving an unregistered vehicle. If you're going over 20 mph, by definition you're no longer a golf cart but a LSV (low speed vehicle), which means you need to have a license plate and insurance like on a car. Also windshield wipers, seat belts, etc. So that is why you need to appear in court and to show documentation that cart has been reduced to the legal golf cart speed of 20 mph or less.

[EdFNJ]

How do you retro fit a governor ?
Vote him out of office?

[EdFNJ]

320.055. (22) “Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0320/Sections/0320.01.html)

That's why earlier posts mentioned that the ticket you'll receive is not a speeding ticket, but for driving an unregistered vehicle. If you're going over 20 mph, by definition you're no longer a golf cart but a LSV (low speed vehicle), which means you need to have a license plate and insurance like on a car. Also windshield wipers, seat belts, etc. So that is why you need to appear in court and to show documentation that cart has been reduced to the legal golf cart speed of 20 mph or less.


100% correct. Most people miss the "CAPABLE OF" part of your comment. Just because one drives 20 or under doesn't mean anything. If one's cart is CAPABLE OF EXCEEDING 20MPH (doesn't matter if you actually do) you have a couple problems:

One is still in violation of the golf cart law and may have to go through the court appearance for unlicensed motor vehicle $$$$ if you are stopped for ANY reason not just speeding.

And more important, IF one gets into an accident and their insurance company finds out their cart is CAPABLE OF exceeding 20mph they likely ain't gonna pay since you bought the wrong policy If heaven forbid someone is seriously injured and sues you can be in big trouble.

That being said, probably 90% of the carts here are CAPABLE OF (speed set to allow) exceed 20mph so obviously the law is RARELY enfoced since cops have better things to do that watch golf carts unless they need to fill up the violation fund in town..

[golfing eagles]

I've been here for many years and I've never once have I had an issue with a driver of a golf cart going too fast...never. However, those of you that think 18mph is fast enough because you've personally decided that's as fast as you are comfortable driving do in fact cause a lot of problems. If you look in your rear-view mirror and see a line of 3 or more golf carts - pull over and let them by (and don't come post here thinking that everyone behind you is driving a corvette inspired golf cart).

I may have allowed the 5 extra minutes as some say to accommodate the 20mph speed limit but I didn't allow the 10+ extra minutes to follow behind someone going 18mph and 5mph around a turn that was designed for 15mph. Just because "you" are not comfortable driving a golf cart at 18mph doesn't mean the rest of us aren't comfortable driving a golf cart at 20mph.

Well said:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[karostay]

320.055. (22) “Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0320/Sections/0320.01.html)

That's why earlier posts mentioned that the ticket you'll receive is not a speeding ticket, but for driving an unregistered vehicle. If you're going over 20 mph, by definition you're no longer a golf cart but a LSV (low speed vehicle), which means you need to have a license plate and insurance like on a car. Also windshield wipers, seat belts, etc. So that is why you need to appear in court and to show documentation that cart has been reduced to the legal golf cart speed of 20 mph or less.

Technically speaking internal combustion is not a motor at all
Its an engine electric is referred to as a motor

[EdFNJ]

Golf carts are not ALLOWED to exceed 20mph even if they can, even in an area where the speed limit is 25, if their cart is not street legal. Most carts are not street legal. Most carts can't go 20MPH unless they've been modified - they usually come with a top speed of 18mph.

Rental golf carts are set at 16mph max.

If you want to behave like speedy gonzalez and that extra 2mph is a deal-breaker for you, then street-legalize your golf cart and drive in the main traffic lane - and get off the golf cart paths entirely.
Actually street legal carts are permitted on the GC paths aka MMP's as well as on the golf course (with proper tires of course). ;) They are also permitted in the diamond lanes according to The Sherrif's office who spoke at our club early last year. The MMP info is posted right on the VCCD website and specifically approved by TV attorneys. I carry a printout of the letter in my cart so when Mr. Know-It-All pulls up next to me on the MMP with his blinker still blinking for the last 3 miles, and shakes his stinky cigar in my face and tells me I shouldn't be there (true story) I just hand him a copy and smile and drive off.

EDIT: Also, according to the Sheriff's office speaker there is no "specific speed limit" for the diamond lanes other than the LEGAL limitations of the type of cart (20) or LSV (25).

[Double Eagle]

If you get stopped by a police officer while driving a golf cart for anything other than speeding, how on earth does the cop know how fast your cart "can" go?

[Villageswimmer]

We were told the speed limit for golf carts is 23 and that is what ours is calibrated.

Where is the 20mph limit i'm seeing?


Just for kicks, I went to SUMTERcountysheriff dot org .
There, I found a video titled Golf Cart Safety narrated by Sheriff Farmer. In it, he clearly states the speed limit for golf carts is 20 mph.
Hope this helps.

[GoPacers]

Actually street legal carts are permitted on the GC paths aka MMP's as well as on the golf course (with proper tires of course). ;) They are also permitted in the diamond lanes according to The Sherrif's office who spoke at our club early last year. The MMP info is posted right on the VCCD website and specifically approved by TV attorneys. I carry a printout of the letter in my cart so when Mr. Know-It-All pulls up next to me on the MMP with his blinker still blinking for the last 3 miles, and shakes his stinky cigar in my face and tells me I shouldn't be there (true story) I just hand him a copy and smile and drive off.

EDIT: Also, according to the Sheriff's office speaker there is no "specific speed limit" for the diamond lanes other than the LEGAL limitations of the type of cart (20) or LSV (25).

Interesting read on the VCCD website. Thanks for that info.

Upon reading it, it seems apparent that a lot of people posting here have not read it.

[EdFNJ]

Interesting read on the VCCD website. Thanks for that info.

Upon reading it, it seems apparent that a lot of people posting here have not read it.


Yea, it seems that is quite normal around here. :D

Here is the link for those who have a search impairment: :) MMP ADOPTED RULES (https://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=%27/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)

[EdFNJ]

If you get stopped by a police officer while driving a golf cart for anything other than speeding, how on earth does the cop know how fast your cart "can" go? If he wants to give you a BIG ticket because you may be giving him a hard time all he would have to do is climb in and step on the gas. ;)

[EdFNJ]

We were told the speed limit for golf carts is 23 and that is what ours is calibrated.

Where is the 20mph limit i'm seeing? Google is your friend. Just type in FLORIDA GOLF CART REGULATIONS or any of 100 other variations on that theme. Google makes things soooo easy. Here's a small hint: Five things you need to know about Florida's Golf Cart Laws (https://gsdimartino.com/florida-golf-cart-laws/)

[Double Eagle]

If he wants to give you a BIG ticket because you may be giving him a hard time all he would have to do is climb in and step on the gas. ;)

:1rotfl: I won't be giving him/her a hard time. This would not be a stop for speeding, as I stated above.

However, if the officer did this (climb in and step on the gas) it would violate Constitutional Criminal Procedure as we know it.

Furthermore, it would be the logical equal to an officer writing a person a ticket for a burnt out tail light bulb on a Ferrari, to also add a ticket for driving 200 mph because the vehicle is "capable" of doing 200 mph.

[golfing eagles]

:1rotfl: I won't be giving him/her a hard time. This would not be a stop for speeding, as I stated above.
Furthermore, it would be the logical equal to an officer writing a person a ticket for a burnt out tail light bulb on a Ferrari, to also add a ticket for driving 200 mph because the vehicle is "capable" of doing 200 mph.

And therein lies the utter stupidity of the way the law is worded---"capable of". Let's arrest all gun owners because they're "capable of" killing someone. Let's arrest all teachers because they're "capable of" misinforming or indoctrinating our children. Let's arrest all liquor store owners as well.
The way the law is written, if you own a brand new cart that is "capable of" going 24mph, you just took delivery into your driveway, and then pull it 1 foot out onto the road at 3 mph----you're guilty
This is similar to the movie "Minority Report". In the US we're supposed to have the presumption of innocence , this law presumes guilt. (Yes, I know if it can go 24 you'll probably go 24, but then you should be caught AFTER you do it)

PS. All carts are "capable of" going 176 mph, just drop them out of an airplane above 10,000 feet

[eyc234]

Ticket them all, on the cart paths or road. Also get them for not knowing what STOP means, blinkers are for, head lights are for and towels hanging over tail lights. No problem with making money off of it. Increase the fines and make them stick. If you do not break the law you have no worries.

[EnglishJW]

Snowbirds should be required to read up on golf cart driving rules. In one day, last Tuesday, I saw a non-street legal golf cart on Buena Vista going around circle and later on, I saw one on Buena Vista turning onto Rt. 466. Both were regular Yamaha gas golf carts.

Were there signs on those carts warning about the drivers being snowbirds?

Seriously, we have seen hideous driving here throughout the year. We are living in a retirement community. It just makes sense to slow down, pay attention and watch out for the other person no matter what time of year it is.

[Barefoot]

And more important, IF one gets into an accident and their insurance company finds out their cart is CAPABLE OF exceeding 20mph they likely ain't gonna pay since you bought the wrong policy If heaven forbid someone is seriously injured and sues you can be in big trouble.That is exactly why I haven't set my golf cart to exceed 20 mph.
I bought my Yesteryear Kart it at Villages Golf Carts.
They will set the golf cart to exceed 20 mph, however
anyone who buys a golf cart there has to sign a document
that protects them if you want them to set the golf cart faster.

[EdFNJ]

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[Laker14]

And therein lies the utter stupidity of the way the law is worded---"capable of". Let's arrest all gun owners because they're "capable of" killing someone. Let's arrest all teachers because they're "capable of" misinforming or indoctrinating our children. Let's arrest all liquor store owners as well.
The way the law is written, if you own a brand new cart that is "capable of" going 24mph, you just took delivery into your driveway, and then pull it 1 foot out onto the road at 3 mph----you're guilty
This is similar to the movie "Minority Report". In the US we're supposed to have the presumption of innocence , this law presumes guilt. (Yes, I know if it can go 24 you'll probably go 24, but then you should be caught AFTER you do it)

PS. All carts are "capable of" going 176 mph, just drop them out of an airplane above 10,000 feet

you know that would be dangerous, right? Probably even illegal..but if you do it let me know, I want to watch.:coolsmiley:

[spd2918]

They give most females warnings as long as they have not used drugs or alcohol but most males get ticketed.

Can we see your research? That's a bold statement.

[TimeForChange]

When the cops set up, they're usually a little further up on Baileys Trail by Cane Garden. They park by the pump house near the first hole on Allamanda nine. Back in December they were set up all along that area for a week or two. I dialed my cart back a couple of years ago, I had it sped up for about five years. I found it didn't really make that big a deal taking five minutes more to get somewhere. Think about it, if you have an accident do you want to risk your insurance being voided.

As Chatbrat said, it's expensive. It's not a speeding ticket, since you're no longer operating in the state of Florida prescribed as a golf cart, you'll given a ticket for driving an unregistered vehicle. Since you're going over 20mph, they consider you should been licensed. I believe the final tally will be about $450 in costs. You'll have to get a letter from a licensed mechanic that your cart was dialed back to to cart speed. You'll need to go to court in Bushnell and if you make the mistake up showing up in shorts, even at 10am, your case will be pushed to the end of the day, about 4:30.

This was in the Villages News online paper. Serious accident first week of the year 2020 in the Village of Winifred. A 70 year old villager drove in front of an SUV, he had to be airlifted to Ocala Regional. They write, the sheriff's office said there were 29 golf cart crashes in the Sumter County portion of The Villages in the final quarter of 2019. Eighteen tickets were issued that same quarter to golf cart operators.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/84670713_1532082220289638_1589541420287393792_o.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=8nfns5bSabwAX-bjk7S&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=9772bd6755d8c6f66925ceea3f26f5d5&oe=5EBC8848

I drove past this accident just after it happened. It was on the street shortcut just past Palmer CC that most people take to go to Glenview or Nancy Lopez. There must have been 10 police cars there and the street was closed. I knew it was serious.

[TimeForChange]

My old cart would go 30 but I never go passed 21 on the street. My new one is set at 24 but I only do that on the trail. I talked to a Sumter deputy one day at Subway and he said they would give you to 23 going down hill on a street but on flat ground they will stop you at 21. He said the only jurisdiction they have on the golf trails is for reckless behavior or operating a golf cart with open container or DUI. The total fine is $450 including court cost and you have to certify that your cart has been set at 20 to the judge. Some snowbirds or others just don't care and they blow passed you on the street. It is actually against the law to pass another cart on the street and they can ticket you for that also. People do not realize how easy a cart will flip over if you stop quickly. I was riding my bike going North on the trail by Morse and just before the Havana tunnel there is a hill before you make the left turn into the tunnel. A cart behind me did not see me turning left and slammed on his brakes and flipped over on the driver side before the tunnel. We helped him turn his cart upright, gather his clubs etc.. He only had a scrape on his arm and he said "I have to go, I have a T Time." Still don't know how you turn over a cart on the driver side and not be injured greatly.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

This isn't rocket science. If you want your golf cart set for higher than 20, you may. But you must do a bunch of other things in addition to setting it higher, in order for it to be legal to drive it on public roads at ANY speed. If you don't want to do those bunch of other things, then keep your golf cart set to 20 or lower, and all will be well.

[Laker14]

it's sensible to have a speed limit, and 20mph is a sensible speed limit. If the speed limit were 25, folks would want to go 30.
I'm far from convinced that ticketing folks for going 21 or 22 on Morse, when the cars are zipping by them at 15-20 mph faster makes sense. In some ways, it's the speed difference between auto traffic and bicycles and carts that contributes to the inherent danger.

Face it, there are places where going 20, or 18, or even 15 is dangerous, due to the road or path curving, or blind spots where you can't see pedestrians or bicycles. And there are places where going 22 or 23 would be perfectly safe.

The law is the law, and one breaks it at the risk of paying a steep fine, but the law doesn't necessarily reflect on the safety of the act, at a particular piece of roadway, or in a particular circumstance. When a cart pulls out in front of a car, and gets hit by the car, they aren't usually going in excess of the speed limit, but they are driving unsafely.

[bagboy]

Maybe that deputy was doing some "chain pulling". I have extreme doubts that any officer is going to pull over and ticket a golf cart doing 21 mph. Or even 23 down a hill.

[EnglishJW]

" Some snowbirds or others just don't care and they blow passed you on the street. " It must seem easy to blame eveything on the snowbirds. Our cart will do 20 - period. We are passed often at all times of the year. Are those snowbirds spending 12 months each year now?

[Laker14]

" Some snowbirds or others just don't care and they blow passed you on the street. " It must seem easy to blame eveything on the snowbirds. Our cart will do 20 - period. We are passed often at all times of the year. Are those snowbirds spending 12 months each year now?

I noticed that comment as well. I decided to let it pass. Those pesky snowbirds are supposed to stay up north and leave their houses vacant all 12 months of the year, while paying all of the yearly fees that keep The Villages running, instead of just leaving their houses vacant for 8 months, while paying all of the yearly fees.

[Barefoot]

They give most females warnings as long as they have not used drugs or alcohol but most males get ticketed.That's a general statement. I'd like to see the research. :ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

Ticket them all, on the cart paths or road. Also get them for not knowing what STOP means, blinkers are for, head lights are for and towels hanging over tail lights. No problem with making money off of it. Increase the fines and make them stick. If you do not break the law you have no worries.

Sorry, they don't give out civics awards on TOTV.

It seems that you proceed from the assumption that everyone driving, say on Buena Vista at 35 is a skilled, safe driver, but once the speedometer hits 36 they become reckless maniacs that should be thrown in jail.
However, driving skill is much more important than actual speed as far as safety goes. Personally, I'd rather be on BV in the vicinity of a NASCAR champion driving at 70 than most of the Villagers driving at 20.

[eyc234]

Sorry, they don't give out civics awards on TOTV.

It seems that you proceed from the assumption that everyone driving, say on Buena Vista at 35 is a skilled, safe driver, but once the speedometer hits 36 they become reckless maniacs that should be thrown in jail.
However, driving skill is much more important than actual speed as far as safety goes. Personally, I'd rather be on BV in the vicinity of a NASCAR champion driving at 70 than most of the Villagers driving at 20.

Nope just saying if you can not do the time/pay the fine do not do the crime. Said nothing about safe or unsafe drivers. My thought is about a crime and breaking the law.

[GatorFan]

Good for you.

But if you drive the speed limit in your car, you must be getting passed by lots of cars that aren’t getting ticketed too. :)

Bottom line. Golf carts are designed to be used on golf course and the law says max speed 20. It is a privilege to be able to mingle with autos in The Villages. That privilege can be taken away.

Follow the law.

[golfing eagles]

Bottom line. Golf carts are designed to be used on golf course and the law says max speed 20. It is a privilege to be able to mingle with autos in The Villages. That privilege can be taken away.

Follow the law.

Maybe the law is stupid and should be changed. Not necessarily the speed, but the phrase "capable of"

[Polar Bear]

Bottom line. Golf carts are designed to be used on golf course and the law says max speed 20. It is a privilege to be able to mingle with autos in The Villages. That privilege can be taken away.

Follow the law.
Not sure I understand the context of this post with respect to my post which it quoted. :)

[GatorFan]

Maybe the law is stupid and should be changed. Not necessarily the speed, but the phrase "capable of"

You have the right to try and get the law changed. It is at this time the law.

Did you teach your children that some laws are stupid and it is okay to break them because you don’t agree with them? How bout your grandchildren?

[golfing eagles]

You have the right to try and get the law changed. It is at this time the law.

Did you teach your children that some laws are stupid and it is okay to break them because you don’t agree with them? How bout your grandchildren?

Which is why my cart is set at 20, and I hope my children and grandchildren would do the same. Why would you assume I had any intention whatsoever of breaking the law? That doesn't change the fact that this law is poorly worded and should be revised.

[roob1]

According to the below link, it appears speed enforcement by the sheriff's dept. can not be performed on the MMP's.


Yea, it seems that is quite normal around here. :D

Here is the link for those who have a search impairment: :) MMP ADOPTED RULES (https://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=%27/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)

[coffeebean]

The other day I saw one on Rolling Acres going south, just before 466. No plate on back of cart. :shocked:

kathy

Just wondering if a street legal cart is supposed to have a plate stating that it is "STREET LEGAL". I once came upon a cart on Morse going around the circle heading towards 466. When the driver was stopped a the light at Morse and 466, I asked if his cart was Street Legal because I did not see a plate saying it was street legal. The driver told me he does not have to have a plate stating his cart is street legal and I was to mind my own business.

So......are street legal carts supposed to have a plate stating they are street legal?

[Marathon Man]

This isn't rocket science. If you want your golf cart set for higher than 20, you may. But you must do a bunch of other things in addition to setting it higher, in order for it to be legal to drive it on public roads at ANY speed. If you don't want to do those bunch of other things, then keep your golf cart set to 20 or lower, and all will be well.

Well said.

[Marathon Man]

I noticed that comment as well. I decided to let it pass. Those pesky snowbirds are supposed to stay up north and leave their houses vacant all 12 months of the year, while paying all of the yearly fees that keep The Villages running, instead of just leaving their houses vacant for 8 months, while paying all of the yearly fees.

:1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

100% correct. Most people miss the "CAPABLE OF" part of your comment. Just because one drives 20 or under doesn't mean anything. If one's cart is CAPABLE OF EXCEEDING 20MPH (doesn't matter if you actually do) you have a couple problems:

One is still in violation of the golf cart law and may have to go through the court appearance for unlicensed motor vehicle $$$$ if you are stopped for ANY reason not just speeding.

And more important, IF one gets into an accident and their insurance company finds out their cart is CAPABLE OF exceeding 20mph they likely ain't gonna pay since you bought the wrong policy If heaven forbid someone is seriously injured and sues you can be in big trouble.

That being said, probably 90% of the carts here are CAPABLE OF (speed set to allow) exceed 20mph so obviously the law is RARELY enforced since cops have better things to do that watch golf carts unless they need to fill up the violation fund in town..

Your last paragraph says it all. Drivers of carts which can exceed 20 MPH will most likely not be stopped by law enforcement. I don't think those people realize they are in BIG trouble with their insurance company if they are in an accident, especially if someone is injured or killed.

Personally, I wouldn't want to take the risk of being sued and having my insurance company refusing (rightfully) to pay if the cart is capable of going over 20 MPH, even if I NEVER drove the cart over 20 MPH on level ground.

[coffeebean]

I noticed that comment as well. I decided to let it pass. Those pesky snowbirds are supposed to stay up north and leave their houses vacant all 12 months of the year, while paying all of the yearly fees that keep The Villages running, instead of just leaving their houses vacant for 8 months, while paying all of the yearly fees.

I took that comment to mean that full time residents also pass golf carts that are going 20 MPH. Happens to me all the time and at all times of the year. I don't blame that on snow birds only. It is full time residents all year round and snowbirds during the winter months that pass me in my electric cart as I'm motoring along at 19.9 MPH max on flat ground..

[UpNorth]

I took that comment to mean that full time residents also pass golf carts that are going 20 MPH. Happens to me all the time and at all times of the year. I don't blame that on snow birds only. It is full time residents all year round and snowbirds during the winter months that pass me in my electric cart as I'm motoring along at 19.9 MPH max on flat ground..

My electric cart will go no faster than 20mph, no matter how hard I press on the accelerator. There is absolutely no reason to pass me at 1-2mph on the paths or the roads. None whatsoever. It happens all the time. When one does, it is an illegal unregistered motor vehicle. They all deserve hefty tickets and a visit to see the judge. There is a load of cash out there waiting for law enforcement.

[EdFNJ]

My electric cart will go no faster than 20mph, no matter how hard I press on the accelerator. There is absolutely no reason to pass me at 1-2mph on the paths or the roads. None whatsoever. It happens all the time. When one does, it is an illegal unregistered motor vehicle. They all deserve hefty tickets and a visit to see the judge. There is a load of cash out there waiting for law enforcement. Do you also pay USE TAX to the State of FL when you buy stuff online that you don't pay sales tax? Do you never exceed 35mph driving on Morse or B.V. ? I guess some folks are just born to be lawbreakers. :D :D