Coronavirus

[JackRussell]

An outbreak of a deadly and communicable virus in a community as social as The Villages could be extremely dangerous. We prepare for hurricanes. How are we to prepare for coronavirus? Why are we not hearing anything about how to protect ourselves?

[CWGUY]

:ohdear: Coronavirus | About | Prevention and Treatment | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/about/prevention.html)

[billethkid]

Obviously a need to know....what if.
This past week one of the health organizations stated the majority of US citizens are at more risk from the flu than coronavirus.

Here are some views of precaution/prevention:

Coronavirus | About | Prevention and Treatment | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/about/prevention.html)

How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu? | Live Science (https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html)

[twoplanekid]

A good friend and High School classmate of mine is still on board this ship. They have been told that they will not have to pay for their extended cruise and will get several additional cruises for free when and if they ever decide to cruise again.
As the ship has tried to dock in several other countries, our friends tell us when they are able to dock somewhere they will immediately head back to the US.

Thailand Refuses Entry to Cruise Ship With No Coronavirus Cases - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/10/world/asia/10reuters-china-health-thailand-cruiseship.html)

[karostay]

I hear pets in shopping carts actually filter out the virus ...We should be safe here

[graciegirl]

I looked at Helene and Henry and said...you know when this mother speaks...…...prepare to be on house arrest.

Fortunately we still have water left over from Irma.

And I could feed the whole third fleet from our pantry for a couple of months.

I know I should NOT make light of this. We should all try to think how we can protect ourselves if it comes here.

Not funny at all...………..

Scary as Hell.

[bagboy]

I hear pets in shopping carts actually filter out the virus ...We should be safe here

Even safe from the bird flu? :)

[Luv2Bretired]

It is not under control. China'''s daily coronavirus death toll tops 100 for 1st time; total deaths top 1,000 | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/health/chinas-daily-coronavirus-death-toll-tops-100-for-1st-time-total-deaths-top-1000?fbclid=IwAR0HSAQivHkef5DBSEijfldnSUOc6qXsiXrL DJMQdhRuHLXIrTmxr7Hjx9g)

[karostay]

Natures way of thinning the herd ...
Were grossly over populated,unkind and uncaring,
As humans were 2 legged Locust

[tophcfa]

Natures way of thinning the herd ...
Were grossly over populated,unkind and uncaring,
As humans were 2 legged Locust

that is pretty dark dude, really?

[jacksonbrown]

No, I am not "chicken little", but it's something to ponder....

Anyone planning to receive goods via air freight from China might want to digest this report: Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and its inactivation with biocidal agents Endemic human coronaviruses (HCoV) can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal, glass or plastic for up to 9 days.

Of Two Minds - China's Fatal Dilemma (https://www.oftwominds.com/blogfeb20/China-dilemma2-20.html)

[billethkid]

Additional perspective:

Why are we panicked about coronavirus — and calm about the flu? | TheHill (https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/481257-why-are-we-panicked-about-coronavirus-and-calm)

[manaboutown]

Perhaps it's time to stock up on toilet paper. Coronavirus updates: Americans quarantined on cruise ship return to U.S as Chinese death toll rises (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-updates-americans-quarantined-cruise-ship-return-u-s-chinese-n1137626)

[petiteone]

No one know how the Coronavirus epidemic will affect most of us, but to put it in perspective, as of Feb 14th, 14,000 have died from the 2019-2020 Flu, 250,000 have been hospitalized and 26 million have gotten the flu. Florida appears to be one of the least affected states and the rest of US states have seen a high rate of infections. As per the CDC. If the Coronavirus were to hit during the height of the Flu Epidemic then who knows what might happen.

[Kenswing]

Perhaps it's time to stock up on toilet paper. Coronavirus updates: Americans quarantined on cruise ship return to U.S as Chinese death toll rises (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-updates-americans-quarantined-cruise-ship-return-u-s-chinese-n1137626)We were scheduled to get on that ship on April 2nd for an 18 day cruise around Japan. Of course that cruise has been cancelled.

[Taltarzac725]

How Americans can prepare for coronavirus if it spreads here - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/Health/americans-prepare-coronavirus-spreads/story?id=69186419)

This has some good information.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Fun fact: anyone who was a candidate for a flu vaccine, could have had one and thus either eliminated the possibility of contracting the flu, or minimized its symptoms drastically.

Another fun fact: there is no coronavirus vaccine. There is absolutely nothing, zilch, nada that you can do to prevent contracting it. You can minimize risk. But that is all you can do.

[Bucco]

I believe the opinion piece from Vanity Fair on The Coronavirus was written by this fellow, a film critic;
K. Austin Collins - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=K.+Austin+Collins)

Do you have evidence that experts within the admin were not from speaking ?

Please share...would make me feel batter.

I will sincerely check to see if can invalidate these reports about the ban. It would certainly make me feel better

[Bucco]

In terms of an "always wrong economic advisor" I believe you meant to cite Paul Krugman of the illustrious New York Times

The thread and subject is the coronavirus. I apologize for my editorial comment.

Can you give a reason he is on this group ?

[Bucco]

I believe the opinion piece from Vanity Fair on The Coronavirus was written by this fellow, a film critic;
K. Austin Collins - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=K.+Austin+Collins)

This is what I am hearing, and not in a physical situation to give you links.....

Mick Mulvaney sent a government-wide email yesterday saying all coronavirus-related comms must go through Pence’s press secretary Katie Miller, according to two people familiar with the email

Hoping you can prove all this wrong

[manaboutown]

Coronavirus fatality rates vary wildly depending on age, gender and medical history — some patients fare much worse than others - MarketWatch (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-fatality-rates-vary-wildly-depending-on-age-gender-and-medical-history-some-patients-fare-much-worse-than-others-2020-02-26)

[TexaninVA]

This is what I am hearing, and not in a physical situation to give you links.....

Mick Mulvaney sent a government-wide email yesterday saying all coronavirus-related comms must go through Pence’s press secretary Katie Miller, according to two people familiar with the email

Hoping you can prove all this wrong

It's humorous to see some people say this is censorship or some other horrible form of whatever the latest outrage is ...

It's perfectly sensible. When you have a large percentage of the population easily susceptible to mass hysteria, and a rapidly changing threat environment, it makes sense for the person in charge to determine what's approproprate to release and what's not.

[Bucco]

Yes, and just like we don't want ignorant people who seem to be "rooting for the virus to win" while yelling the sky is falling

Other than staff members of our WH and family members of them, I have not heard that.

Can you be more specific about WHO SPECIFICALLY is "rooting for the virus" to do anything.

This gets old about everyone is "out to get"

Everyone wants the virus to stay away to my knowledge. There is fear of he unknown, but I am sure you can point out SPECICALLY WHO is rooting otherwise.

[Bucco]

It's humorous to see some people say this is censorship or some other horrible form of whatever the latest outrage is ...

It's perfectly sensible. When you have a large percentage of the population easily susceptible to mass hysteria, and a rapidly changing threat environment, it makes sense for the person in charge to determine what's approproprate to release and what's not.

Please share with us WHO SPECIFICALLY is opposed to having one voice to speak to this subject.

Most I have heard, no make that ALL I have heard feel that is a great idea.

The criticism is abouy WHO.

Please make sure we are speaking about the same subject.....Having one spokesman is good and agreed.

Who it is and banning experts is the discussion, or should be,

[TexaninVA]

Please share with us WHO SPECIFICALLY is opposed to having one voice to speak to this subject.

Most I have heard, no make that ALL I have heard feel that is a great idea.

The criticism is abouy WHO.

Please make sure we are speaking about the same subject.....Having one spokesman is good and agreed.

Who it is and banning experts is the discussion, or should be,


Naming names is prohibited by the TOS but you can go back and figure it out ... not that difficult. This is somewhat akin to grasping for the vapors and even more amusing.

[TexaninVA]

Accusations of someone "rooting" for something this serious to kill people, simply to try and save face of facts on record...is purely sickening.

It's also a great insight. :ohdear:

I agree ... insight indeed, but in a reverse sense :) as it enables most of us to analyze the alternate reality many disaffected people in our society inhabit

[Bucco]

Naming names is prohibited by the TOS but you can go back and figure it out ... not that difficult. This is somewhat akin to grasping for the vapors and even more amusing.

I do not think supplying links that will allow for those you have accused of rooting for a virus to get worse is against the rules.

I am reading that you have no idea who said any of that ever.

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TO THE MODS....Understand that certain poster continue to make serious and terrible accusations on here, un credited or backed up. This is potentially a very serious problem for our country and I sure hope that serious accusations can be responded to without any action.
My time on this forum accusations such as a poster is making with no substantiation is not received well.

We all pray that we need not face this virus and we pray for those who suffer with it. I have not seen anyone making any P post except for responding to those who are using this as an opportunity.

We should all avoid the accusations and simply pray and hope for all affected and wait for more info.

I can assure you that I will only post more on this subject if UNCREDITED OR UNSUBSTANTIATED, but if they have any credence I hope the poster will supply them.

Thank you

[Shimpy]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Chinese were developing a new biological warfare weapon that somehow they lost control over such as a worker that was lax and let the virus out. Along with developing a new weapon they probably have a anti viral fix for this virus but won't expose it as this would be proof that they are responsible for developing this weapon.

[ColdNoMore]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Chinese were developing a new biological warfare weapon that somehow they lost control over such as a worker that was lax and let the virus out. Along with developing a new weapon they probably have a anti viral fix for this virus but won't expose it as this would be proof that they are responsible for developing this weapon.

I don't know, I've heard others postulating the same thing...but it sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me.

While the 2-3% fatality rate for the coronavirus is very high compared to the flu, it seems really low and ineffective...to use it as some kind of bio-weapon. :shrug:

[manaboutown]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Chinese were developing a new biological warfare weapon that somehow they lost control over such as a worker that was lax and let the virus out. Along with developing a new weapon they probably have a anti viral fix for this virus but won't expose it as this would be proof that they are responsible for developing this weapon.

The Chi-Coms operate two biological weapons labs in the area where it broke out. They allege meat from a local illegal wild game market was the source. They even eat bats along with cats and dogs over there. Anyway, in the past lab workers have been caught by the government stealing and selling, to the tune of over $1.5M US, lab animals and even meat from animals which had been given disease from manufactured viruses. Expert: Chinese Scientists Sell Lab Animals as Meat on the Black Market (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/24/expert-chinese-scientists-sell-lab-animals-meat-black-market/)

Report Suggests That Details Point To Coronavirus Coming From Chinese Lab | The Daily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-suggests-that-details-point-to-coronavirus-coming-from-chinese-lab)

Mystery surrounds ouster of Chinese researchers from Canadian laboratory | Science | AAAS (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/mystery-surrounds-ouster-chinese-researchers-canadian-laboratory)

I don't trust the official line on what goes on in China.

Potentially good news! New England Journal of Medicine: Coronavirus Could Be No Worse than Flu (https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/02/28/new-england-journal-of-medicine-coronavirus-could-be-no-worse-than-flu/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3vZlwmqNe1J1nuCYpGY9Zl9CTx_xcvFVm1DOiF8 3YhGZB49UmTIfZp9mM)

[TexaninVA]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Chinese were developing a new biological warfare weapon that somehow they lost control over such as a worker that was lax and let the virus out. Along with developing a new weapon they probably have a anti viral fix for this virus but won't expose it as this would be proof that they are responsible for developing this weapon.

I think there's merit to this view and it's too facile to dismiss it as a "conspiracy" theroy etc. About two weeks ago I saw a spectral analysis of the virus that indicates human-engineering was likely involved. I don't think the Chinese deliberately unleashed it but was more likely a procedural failure. They certainly have bio-weapons under development. The US, by treaty, is prohibited from doing that.

[Bucco]

The Chi-Coms operate two biological weapons labs in the area where it broke out. They allege meat from a local illegal wild game market was the source. They even eat bats along with cats and dogs over there. Anyway, in the past lab workers have been caught by the government stealing and selling, to the tune of over $1.5M US, lab animals and even meat from animals which had been given disease from manufactured viruses. Expert: Chinese Scientists Sell Lab Animals as Meat on the Black Market (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/24/expert-chinese-scientists-sell-lab-animals-meat-black-market/)

Report Suggests That Details Point To Coronavirus Coming From Chinese Lab | The Daily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-suggests-that-details-point-to-coronavirus-coming-from-chinese-lab)

Mystery surrounds ouster of Chinese researchers from Canadian laboratory | Science | AAAS (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/mystery-surrounds-ouster-chinese-researchers-canadian-laboratory)

I don't trust the official line on what goes on in China.

I respectfully do not buy this, and if true, I am terrified.

First, we are constantly told how great a guy Xi is and how great our relationship is with him and his country.

Secondly, despite our weakened and lack of leadership intelligence agency, I would hope (pray) we would be aware of something amiss.

If so, our government is complicit, if only by ignorance.

The Guardian presented a scenario to support your suspicions, but I, at this point see no validity..see link below.

Xi Jinping has buried the truth about coronavirus | Ma Jian | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/26/the-reaction-to-the-outbreak-has-revealed-the-unreceonstructed-despotism-of-the-chinese-state)

They did have a "whistleblower" in China who, at least prevented it being kept quiet any longer. But in a state where there is such an authority figure surrounded by only those who must agree, anything is possible.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I respectfully do not buy this, and if true, I am terrified.

...

I don't apply any respect at all to this statement: I don't buy it. Period, full stop.

The source of two of those links is breitbart. There is nothing credible about anything written, posted, streamed, taped, or referenced on that website. It is an alt-right conspiracy website and is equal, in my opinion, to Ed Anger columns in the Weekly World News from the 1980s.

[Bucco]

I don't apply any respect at all to this statement: I don't buy it. Period, full stop.

The source of two of those links is breitbart. There is nothing credible about anything written, posted, streamed, taped, or referenced on that website. It is an alt-right conspiracy website and is equal, in my opinion, to Ed Anger columns in the Weekly World News from the 1980s.

I agree with you, but always and continually being accused of various nefarious activities on here, I have decided to simply prove my points with facts. Some things, as defined by my writings on Mandela affect, are just too far out to even respond. This virus story, and let me say...I sincerely hope it is just a simple flu to be gone soon...this story has the makings of conspiracies galore.

[TexaninVA]

I respectfully do not buy this, and if true, I am terrified.

First, we are constantly told how great a guy Xi is and how great our relationship is with him and his country.

Secondly, despite our weakened and lack of leadership intelligence agency, I would hope (pray) we would be aware of something amiss.

If so, our government is complicit, if only by ignorance.

The Guardian presented a scenario to support your suspicions, but I, at this point see no validity..see link below.

Xi Jinping has buried the truth about coronavirus | Ma Jian | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/26/the-reaction-to-the-outbreak-has-revealed-the-unreceonstructed-despotism-of-the-chinese-state)

They did have a "whistleblower" in China who, at least prevented it being kept quiet any longer. But in a state where there is such an authority figure surrounded by only those who must agree, anything is possible.

Descriptions of Xi as a great guy are done in the context of not needlessly angering the guy you're negotiating with ... not many take it literally nor of validation of his character etc. He's a communist dictator who's quiet but brutal when need be.

We have many great intel sources & capabilities, but China is called a "Hard Target" for a reason. There's also the reality that, if we do have evidence of the bio-weaponinzing , it will be highly classified. One reason would be to protect our sources, while another would be to prevent panic in the populace. It's is very scary to think that weapons like that exist ... the only real protection is to deter them with superior might be it military or otherwise.

[manaboutown]

I find it interesting the young, healthy Chinese doctor whistler blower "died of the virus" according to the official Chi-Com party line. Yeah, sure. Retribution anyone?

Li Wenliang: Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It sounds to me like the "whistleblower" was not a whistleblower of some grand political conspiracy at all. He tried to warn people that there was a deadly virus going around. The government behaved exactly the same way as what we're seeing in the USA, presently - authorities claiming that it's not a big deal, it's being contained, it's a hoax, etc. etc.

My guess is they didn't know a damned thing, and didn't want the populace to find out something that they themselves knew nothing about yet. It's hard to prevent panic when you aren't prepared with useful information.

That doesn't mean anyone intentionally created a virus to use as a weapon. It just means an ignorant government was ignorant.

[TexaninVA]

It sounds to me like the "whistleblower" was not a whistleblower of some grand political conspiracy at all. He tried to warn people that there was a deadly virus going around. The government behaved exactly the same way as what we're seeing in the USA, presently - authorities claiming that it's not a big deal, it's being contained, it's a hoax, etc. etc.

My guess is they didn't know a damned thing, and didn't want the populace to find out something that they themselves knew nothing about yet. It's hard to prevent panic when you aren't prepared with useful information.

That doesn't mean anyone intentionally created a virus to use as a weapon. It just means an ignorant government was ignorant.

"The government behaved exactly the same way as what we're seeing in the USA" ... IMO, that's a grotesque false equivalency. If our government ever starts shooting or killing whistelblowers, then it might pertain.

[graciegirl]

I don't think there was a conspiracy or that the Corona Virus was altered and set loose.

I don't think Breitbart is any different than Mother Jones.

I think we need to stay calm and wash our hands and hope for the best and hope spring comes and makes this virus less prevalent and gives the world scientists more time to find something to oppose it.

We are all gonna die. Most of us a lot sooner than later. If it hits, stay home. Stock up on food and a few jugs of good old bleach.

[ColdNoMore]

I think there's merit to this view and it's too facile to dismiss it as a "conspiracy" theroy etc. About two weeks ago I saw a spectral analysis of the virus that indicates human-engineering was likely involved. I don't think the Chinese deliberately unleashed it but was more likely a procedural failure. They certainly have bio-weapons under development. The US, by treaty, is prohibited from doing that.

Really?

And the source of where you supposedly read about this "spectral-analysis"...was what? :ohdear:

[ColdNoMore]

I still believe American's should be getting updates from a single source, but I strongly believe that source should be from the scientific community who is knowledgeable of the facts as they're found...and NOT from a source with an obvious agenda.

We need the truth and facts about this virus...not 'spin' for personal gain. :oops:

[Moderator]

Just a reminder...the topic is how to prepare for and respond to any corona virus outbreak here in the US/Villages.

Much of the thread veered off into domestic and geopolitical arguments and conspiracy theories that got political and heated. We have removed a number of posts.

Please stay on topic or the thread will be closed.

Moderator

[manaboutown]

Anyone getting to Costco to stock up? Coronavirus panic grips California as anxious shoppers stock up on supplies | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8061147/Coronavirus-panic-grips-California-anxious-shoppers-stock-supplies.html)

[CoachKandSportsguy]

As far as travelling right now, if you have optionality of not taking the trip in a plane, cruise ship, I would exercise the option to not go on the trip until the situation is more clear and more under control, vaccines and transmission understood and mostly removed.

The most difficult decision will be to have or cancel family gatherings with lots of travel involved, as the decision is counter traditional but increases risk.

sportsguy

[billethkid]

As far as travelling right now, if you have optionality of not taking the trip in a plane, cruise ship, I would exercise the option to not go on the trip until the situation is more clear and more under control, vaccines and transmission understood and mostly removed.

The most difficult decision will be to have or cancel family gatherings with lots of travel involved, as the decision is counter traditional but increases risk.

sportsguy


Currently there are hundreds of thousands of cruise passengers enjoying their trip....without incident. One might give second thought to going to the far east/asia.

Just think for a minute of all we use every day of our lives.....that you will buy TODAY.....that comes from China....:shocked:

Common sense is a necessary element in the decision making.
And it seems to be a missing ingredient in much of the reporting (and advice).

[manaboutown]

Well, the bad bug is at least temporarily reducing the air pollution China creates. Coronavirus: Nasa images show China pollution clear amid slowdown - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967)

[ParSeeker]

As I understand, there is a shortage of approved test kits. Probably not practical to outfit every doctor's office with them. If any of us who think we may have symptoms goes to our personal physician, we necessitate the Doc to a) have test kits b) protect their staff c) wash down the facility if they get a real infection d) protect the other pts in the waiting room or in the facility. etc etc.

So - Why not create some number of screening centers in The V, and concentrate the protection resources there. The physicians and staff would be protected properly, and would get the word out as the place to call or go if showing any flu symptoms. Regular physicians would direct callers to those facilities for COVID 19 screening. If not COVID the center would send the pt to regular physician.

Yes, insurance coverage would be an issue to be worked. But since we are a vulnerable community, seems like we should take special steps.

[Lady.Sumter]

Information about Novel Coronavirus 19 Centers of Disease Control and Prevention
CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov

Advisory information World Health Organization
WHO.int/emergencies

[Bay Kid]

Guess I won't be flying Mom and Dad to Florida for a visit this spring.

[rockandroller]

Reading the posts to this thread, beginning on 02-07-2020, it's interesting how the comments have become more thoughtful, and less flippant.

Like a post to facebook and twitter, your comment could remain in perpetuity.

[Nevinmann]

After a Pickleball game yesterday, players shunned the customary Obama fist-bump in favor of a four person paddle touch. Each person had just finished touching the same Pickleball twenty or more times. Soon after, the quartet proceeded to to the water cooler and OMG, "thumb-pushed" the cooler spigot. Of course there were probably 30 others who had touched the spigot in the preceding ten minutes. NUTZO!

[DeanFL]

Yikes! This topic is on many sources.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Wednesday said up to 70 percent of her country’s population could be infected by the deadly coronavirus – stressing the need to slow its spread.

“When the virus is out there, the population has no immunity and no therapy exists, then 60 to 70 percent of the population will be infected,” she said during a press conference in Berlin.


Angela Merkel says up to 70% of Germans could get coronavirus (https://nypost.com/2020/03/11/angela-merkel-warns-that-70-of-germans-could-get-coronavirus/)

[PennBF]

There is a news paper "The Poughkeepsie Journal" and today it published that as of March 11th every country that has the virus, confirmed cases, active cases and deaths and recoveries. This listing includes Europe, etc. There is a separate chart that reflects where (what country) the deaths are etc. It is interesting that other than Moroco there is no virus in Africa. It would be nice if our Newspaper did similar research and was as informative.
:ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

There is a news paper "The Poughkeepsie Journal" and today it published that as of March 11th every country that has the virus, confirmed cases, active cases and deaths and recoveries. This listing includes Europe, etc. There is a separate chart that reflects where (what country) the deaths are etc. It is interesting that other than Moroco there is no virus in Africa. It would be nice if our Newspaper did similar research and was as informative.
:ohdear:

Not that interesting since the CDC global map lists the following African countries as having reported cases:
Africa:

Algeria
Burkina Faso
Cameroon
Democratic Republic of Congo
Nigeria
Senegal
South Africa
Togo

Interestingly, no Moroco

[Madelaine Amee]

As I understand, there is a shortage of approved test kits. Probably not practical to outfit every doctor's office with them. If any of us who think we may have symptoms goes to our personal physician, we necessitate the Doc to a) have test kits b) protect their staff c) wash down the facility if they get a real infection d) protect the other pts in the waiting room or in the facility. etc etc.

So - Why not create some number of screening centers in The V, and concentrate the protection resources there. The physicians and staff would be protected properly, and would get the word out as the place to call or go if showing any flu symptoms. Regular physicians would direct callers to those facilities for COVID 19 screening. If not COVID the center would send the pt to regular physician.


Yes, insurance coverage would be an issue to be worked. But since we are a vulnerable community, seems like we should take special steps.

Thank you for the ONE sensible solution to this problem that has been in any thread on this site. Only, your second post .... you may be too intelligent for TOTV :icon_wink: But, on a serious note ... I had mentioned to my husband that Quest could step up and do screening, they must have all the masks etc., needed for their personnel.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I think that anyone who thinks this is just the flu, should definitely make some extra money and volunteer for the human trials of the covid19 vaccine, since the flu is no big deal. They will need volunteers

[golfing eagles]

I think that anyone who thinks this is just the flu, should definitely make some extra money and volunteer for the human trials of the covid19 vaccine, since the flu is no big deal. They will need volunteers

The problem is that the phrase "just the flu" doesn't really mitigate the severity of COVID-19. An average of 36,000 Americans die each year from "just the flu". I would suggest people use the precautions for "just the flu" and they'll be taking action against COVID-19 at the same time.

[twoplanekid]

Well, my step brother from Alaska was going to visit us after visiting his mom, my step mom in a nursing home in Indiana. He was just informed that no one will be allowed any visitation rights to this nursing home until things are “better”. Thus, he is rethinking about making a trip to just see us and then get stuck somewhere because of a quarantine. It will be interesting how history will look back on our actions or inactions during this time period.