Men’s Room ...Ladies Room

[villagerjack]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.

[dewilson58]

Jus wondering, W.A.G. on her age??

[retiredguy123]

I have seen other restaurants in large cities where the restrooms are designated as unisex, but not in The Villages. I think you were correct that a men's room is for men only. The woman had no right to use it.

[villagerjack]

Not a teen or even a Millennial. Younger than me but so is everyone else...

[ColdNoMore]

As long as it is a single use and there is a lock on the main door...why should anyone even care? :oops:

[retiredguy123]

In my opinion, if this type of behavior becomes commonplace, the restaurants need to change the signs on the restrooms. They will need to be either "unisex" signs or "men only" and "women only" signs.

[retiredguy123]

As long as it is a single use and there is a lock on the main door...why should anyone even care? :oops:
I would care. I don't want to stand in line behind a woman to use the men's room, unless it is clear that the women's room is also available to men. But, the OP was obviously reluctant to use the women's room.

[New Englander]

Men's rooms are for men. Ladies rooms are for ladies.

[JSR22]

I do not understan d why this would be a problem. If it's aroom with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?

[xcaligirl]

Oh my.....perhaps another lunatic in the Villages!! From what I know, there are still mens and womens restrooms. I do see a lot of men using the women's restroom on the golf course but they are outside and normally not many women use them. I do but the men are actually embarrassed when they get "caught" using the womens! They are ALWAYS very courteous and all's good!

[villagerjack]

I do not understan d why this would be a problem. If it's aroom with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?

Unless you open it you do not know if it is a single use room. . And what happens if a woman forgets to lock the door or the lock is broken. Could be embarrassing and dangerous.

[JSR22]

I always lock the door to a single room. If the lock was broken I would not us the room. I just don't see this as any kind of problem.

[Velvet]

Throughout N America I often see a line up, long lineups sometimes, for the ladies and I have never seen a lineup for the men’s. Given that some people really need to use the bathroom fast, I think unisex bathrooms are just fine if it is one stall only. (If the lock is broken you can use your voice. Or a door wedge.)

Also anyone with gender transition would be ok too. And all genders would have to keep the bathrooms tidy.

[karostay]

Both doors have a lock who really cares who goes in

[JSR22]

Both doors have a lock who really cares who goes in

Exeactly. This should not be an issue.

[retiredguy123]

I see it as a huge problem. Most men do not want to use the women's room. Unless it is designated as unisex, the men's room should be reserved for men only, and women should not expect to use it. How do you know what or who is inside the women's room unless you go in?

[JSR22]

Honestly, I do not underand why this is an issue. If it is a single occupancy room why would you care?

[karostay]

That it I want a male cheeseburger

[graciegirl]

Exeactly. This should not be an issue.

Saying this three times on this thread doesn't make it more acceptable to me.

[JSR22]

My question is why is it unacceptable? If you are at a party at a neighbor's home everyone uses the same bathroom.

[vintageogauge]

I've been in there many times and would to want to sit on the seat in the men's room, she probably regrets her decision.

[graciegirl]

My question is why is it unacceptable? If you are at a party at a neighbor's home everyone uses the same bathroom.

There aren't urinals at the neighbors house.

[retiredguy123]

My question is why is it unacceptable? If you are at a party at a neighbor's home everyone uses the same bathroom.
It's unacceptable because the restaurant has designated separate restrooms for men and women. It would be fine if the restrooms were designated as "unisex" like some restaurants do. No problem there. But, a lot of men would be reluctant to enter a women's restroom because they could become the subject of a lawsuit or worse. But, apparently some women seem to think that they can use either restroom regardless of the sign on the door. Personally, I would have told the woman at Five Guys that she could only use the men's restroom when I was finished. I think the OP was being too polite.

[ColdNoMore]

I do not understand why this would be a problem. If it's a room with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?
I always lock the door to a single room. If the lock was broken I would not us the room. I just don't see this as any kind of problem.
Honestly, I do not underand why this is an issue. If it is a single occupancy room why would you care?

Exactly! :oops:

[JSR22]

I think they should make all single bathrooms unisex. The urinals do not matter. How many peoples have urinals in their home bathrooms?

[retiredguy123]

I think they should make all single bathrooms unisex. The urinals do not matter. How many peoples have urinals in their home bathrooms?
I agree, but I have not seen any unisex restrooms in The Villages.

[JSR22]

The time has come for them to be Unisex if it is a single room with a locking door.

[ColdNoMore]

I think they should make all single bathrooms unisex. The urinals do not matter. How many peoples have urinals in their home bathrooms?

YEP!

This is the most ridiculous and manufactured reason to express a silly grievance...that I've seen in a long time. :ohdear:

[ColdNoMore]

I think they should make all single bathrooms unisex. The urinals do not matter. How many people have urinals in their home bathrooms?

I'm anxious to hear a cogent defense...of that fact. :popcorn:

[retiredguy123]

I'm anxious to hear a cogent defense...of that fact. :popcorn:
Apples and oranges. Commercial toilets and urinals are designed differently from home toilets because they need to be concerned about frequent clogging. That is why they use urinals and toilets with high pressure flush valves instead of flush tanks. Also urinals save space. And, if more places would install waterless urinals, they could save a lot of water.

[Pinball wizard]

I do not understan d why this would be a problem. If it's aroom with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?

How would you know without opening the door?

[Velvet]

My question is why is it unacceptable? If you are at a party at a neighbor's home everyone uses the same bathroom.

Yes. Why is it okay at home but not anywhere else? I think the problem is we are just used to different bathrooms from the Victorian era.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think any man who has to wait for a woman to use the "mens' room" should be grateful. It means the toilet seat has _probably_ been wiped off, by the woman, before she sat down on it.

[CWGUY]

I think any man who has to wait for a woman to use the "mens' room" should be grateful. It means the toilet seat has _probably_ been wiped off, by the woman, before she sat down on it.

:ohdear: Or it's real wet because she didn't sit down on it! :popcorn:

[Bucco]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.

Tons and tons of assumptions in the OP.

You should have in inquired "what she meant" and saved all these folks postin.

You assume it was a unisex situation. You have no idea what she meant...maybe hubby was in the men's room.

Facts could have saved folks on here having agita. Saving all our resident "judges" time, maybe.

[villagerjack]

I'm anxious to hear a cogent defense...of that fact. :popcorn:

Home bathrooms are used by people you know. Public bathrooms are used by strangers, perhaps with bad intentions. A man entering a woman’s public restroom would be a tip-off of those bad intentions.

[villagerjack]

Home bathrooms are used by people you know. Public bathrooms are used by strangers, perhaps with bad intentions. A man entering a woman’s public restroom would be a tip-off of those bad intentions.

Some years ago we were vacationing in Trinidad. It was during Carnival and things were pretty wild. My wife went into the hotel ladies room while I stood outside the elevator and out of the corner of my eye I spotted a man entering the ladies room after my wife. I notified security who responded immediately and took the man, who clearly had bad intentions, into custody. Had this been a case were all genders were welcome to use any bathroom, things would certainly have turned out differently.

[coffeebean]

My question is why is it unacceptable? If you are at a party at a neighbor's home everyone uses the same bathroom.

You got it!!!! You made a perfectly valid point with this statement. Single stall public restrooms are available to everyone IMHO, especially when there is a long line at one restroom and the other restroom is not occupied.

I have found single stall public men's rooms are not usually as clean as women's rooms but, as a woman, there is a way to get around that. Ladies, you know what to do! The floor in a public single stall men's room can be a mine field but hey, you do what you gotta do. Hubby usually let's me know what kind of condition the men's room is in if the ladies room has a very long line.

[villagerjack]

I think any man who has to wait for a woman to use the "mens' room" should be grateful. It means the toilet seat has _probably_ been wiped off, by the woman, before she sat down on it.

My wife or daughters or granddaughters would NEVER wipe a toilet seat soiled by a man. NEVER!! That is one reason why separate ladies rooms are preferred by most women.

[coffeebean]

There aren't urinals at the neighbors house.

But there is always a toilet in a public single stall men's room. It doesn't matter to me if there is a urinal in the same single stall restroom. I know someone who had a urinal installed in their home with a husband and two son's.

[JoMar]

There have been many times when I leave the room and see a long line of ladies waiting I will offer to stand guard at the door while they use the men's room. It's a non issue for me......and hopefully it will be more common as the next generations move us old folks and our silly ways out of the way.

[coffeebean]

I think any man who has to wait for a woman to use the "mens' room" should be grateful. It means the toilet seat has _probably_ been wiped off, by the woman, before she sat down on it.

But, but, but.....women don't usually sit on those seats. As I said before, there is a way to manage that and most women know how to do that efficiently.

[coffeebean]

:ohdear: Or it's real wet because she didn't sit down on it! :popcorn:

I have mastered how to not get a drop on the seat!

[CWGUY]

:icon_wink: Depends?

[Carla B]

The first time I encountered "unisex" bathrooms was in Paris 30 years ago. Made me feel uncomfortable and I still feel that way. That is not to say that women's restrooms are clean. They can be really nasty, made especially so by those who don't want to sit for fear of picking up germs and also don't want to raise the seat, again for fear of picking up germs, but don't mind spraying their germs all over for the next occupant to deal with.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

My wife or daughters or granddaughters would NEVER wipe a toilet seat soiled by a man. NEVER!! That is one reason why separate ladies rooms are preferred by most women.

Well sure, it would be *preferred*. I'd also prefer MY ladies room to have my name on the door, with a lock, where only I and my personal bathroom-cleaning servant have the key, and I'd like a bidet in there too that keeps the water spray at a consistent warm temperature 24/7 just in case I have to get up at 2:37AM for a quick wizzeroo. I also want my hand towels made of crisp burgundy linen, with matching guest towels and accessories, and all the walls painted a warm cream - semi-gloss, thankyouverymuch.

But if I gotta go, I gotta go. I'll use the crusty nasty dank smelling mens' room if I have to, and I will wipe the seat and put TP on it after, because the only time I'm gonna cop a squat is if I'm outdoors hiking, behind a tree.

[villagerjack]

I have mastered how to not get a drop on the seat!

The visuals are not pleasant.

[villagerjack]

Well sure, it would be *preferred*. I'd also prefer MY ladies room to have my name on the door, with a lock, where only I and my personal bathroom-cleaning servant have the key, and I'd like a bidet in there too that keeps the water spray at a consistent warm temperature 24/7 just in case I have to get up at 2:37AM for a quick wizzeroo. I also want my hand towels made of crisp burgundy linen, with matching guest towels and accessories, and all the walls painted a warm cream - semi-gloss, thankyouverymuch.

But if I gotta go, I gotta go. I'll use the crusty nasty dank smelling mens' room if I have to, and I will wipe the seat and put TP on it after, because the only time I'm gonna cop a squat is if I'm outdoors hiking, behind a tree.

I guess that says it all. Wow!

[tophcfa]

Just go into any bathroom available and if anyone gives you a hard time simply tell them you are in the bathroom that you identify with at that particular time. In this wack job world we now live in somehow this logic will fly. I know it won’t hold reason with the reasonable, but reason seems to have gone the way of the dinosaurs? First they had to create gender neutral bathrooms, but then that was not good enough because some people, for whatever reason I will never understand, apparently can’t figure out what gender they are (they claim to be binary???), so they had to rename them inclusive bathrooms????

[ColdNoMore]

My wife or daughters or granddaughters would NEVER wipe a toilet seat soiled by a man. NEVER!! That is one reason why separate ladies rooms are preferred by most women.

So you're saying that your wife, daughters and granddaughters will only wipe seats...soiled by other women? :oops:

Are you really trying to convince anyone, that "female germs" are any different...than "male germs?" :1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

Home bathrooms are used by people you know. Public bathrooms are used by strangers, perhaps with bad intentions. A man entering a woman’s public restroom would be a tip-off of those bad intentions.

Seriously?

Remember now, we're talking ONLY about a single use restroom...with a locking door.

And why would you think a man going into a single use women's restroom with a lock, in say a convenience store, would be any more nefarious or dangerous...than a man walking around in a grocery store parking lot?

I swear, some people can try and justify...the weirdest thinking. :ohdear:

[Velvet]

Tophcfa, thanks for the good giggle you gave me.

[VApeople]

If I going to the men's restroom and I see a lady waiting for the ladies room, I check to see if the men's room is for only one person. If it is, I ask the lady if she would like to use the men's room.

Sometimes they say Yes and sometimes they decline.

[villagerjack]

If I going to the men's restroom and I see a lady waiting for the ladies room, I check to see if the men's room is for only one person. If it is, I ask the lady if she would like to use the men's room.

Sometimes they say Yes and sometimes they decline.

If there are people behind you perhaps having an emergency it would be Improper for you to permit others to cut the line in front of you.

[bigeasy]

maybe she really is a man.

[PanamaKim]

There have been many times when I leave the room and see a long line of ladies waiting I will offer to stand guard at the door while they use the men's room. It's a non issue for me......and hopefully it will be more common as the next generations move us old folks and our silly ways out of the way.
On behalf of all women who have waited in the ladies bathroom line while our food gets cold or the ballgame goes on or an event is being missed, THANK YOU!! And I can assure you that any ladies room with a long line is probably NOT cleaner than the men’s bathroom.

[Leadbone1]

I’m afraid I would’ve told her that unless she’s a man that I’m using the men’s room. And that there was no line for the men’s room. I definitely would’ve waited outside the men’s room and used it immediately

[noslices1]

Well, let’s see.... what do I feel like today? Should I be a man or a woman? Hmmmmmm, decisions, decisions..... well I have no competitions today (in a woman’s sport), so maybe I’ll “identify” as a man today. There’s going to be tryouts for senior women’s olympics this weekend, so I guess I can wait until Saturday to “identify” as a woman. WHAT’S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO!!!

[asianthree]

My wife or daughters or granddaughters would NEVER wipe a toilet seat soiled by a man. NEVER!! That is one reason why separate ladies rooms are preferred by most women.

The females in your family must have the best bladder retention ever. Have been to many public events where not a single man is standing in line, and 20 plus women are. They are proactive if someone has an emergency women take action for that person.

[Dave2000]

I agree, enough potty talk

[dewilson58]

I'm surprised sometime which topic get people fired up on ToTV.




:popcorn:

[coffeebean]

............But if I gotta go, I gotta go. I'll use the crusty nasty dank smelling mens' room if I have to, and I will wipe the seat and put TP on it after, because the only time I'm gonna cop a squat is if I'm outdoors hiking, behind a tree.

World traveling can be a challenge to use public restrooms. For example....... I was not warned of the facilities in The Vatican. To my surprise, the restroom consisted of a hold in the ground with foot imprints in cement for placement of the feet on each sides of the hole. Seriously????

[coffeebean]

The visuals are not pleasant.

When you gotta go, you gotta go and no one sees a thing.

[coffeebean]

Tophcfa, thanks for the good giggle you gave me.

Agree. I'm having fun reading this thread.

[stadry]

assumptions that locks always are operable can be challenging/dangerous to 1's modesty,,, does anyone want to be the 1 obstructing access to 1 who's in emergency-access-to-facility mode ? at stadiums, etc, doesn't incoming always has the right of way ;-)
lady's rooms are single use ( stalls only ) while we men can make believe we're out in the woods

[Phil_Linda]

The first time I encountered "unisex" bathrooms was in Paris 30 years ago. Made me feel uncomfortable and I still feel that way. That is not to say that women's restrooms are clean. They can be really nasty, made especially so by those who don't want to sit for fear of picking up germs and also don't want to raise the seat, again for fear of picking up germs, but don't mind spraying their germs all over for the next occupant to deal with.
I experienced the same thing in Italy some 58 years ago. Went in a restroom as a very young lad who was in the US Navy and they looked like shower stalls no doors. They were staggered so one wasn't looking directly at another person, but one could see most of what was going on. After a couple of times it wasn't a big deal at all.
If one has been to a major sports arena for sports or a concert you will find young ladies in both lines as the women's line always takes longer, they will go in a stall, come out and go on their way. No one seems to care.
I have used a Women's room a couple of times when I absolutely had to, nature as we all know sometimes does not want to wait too long, when I have done this my wife has always stood outside the door and told prospective users they need to wait a minute. Yes, I felt a little twinge when I came out but no one ever said anything as I believe they just understood, it was an emergency.
I think because most of us that are older find it harder to accept if one has not encountered it before. As time goes on like it or not this may become the normal.

[GoodGuysAir]

I was there yesterday afternoon also. I am just assuming the women’s was out of order. If not I think if I was thinking quick enough I would say “oh I’m sorry” then make a look at the women’s room and ask “do you know if the women’s room is occupied” maybe she made a mistake.
I have used the women’s room before. I remember once by mistake I was inThe stall and saw the extra waste basket. I had to wait until everyone else was gone before I left. Other times at the golf course when no women around, but was quick.

[Thecreadys]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.
Sign of the times "Gender Neutral Restrooms"

[rmd2]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.

I agree. I have seen other women do this but I would never use a men's room. The Hard Rock Casino in Biloxi has different sections for men and women but a communal hand washing area and even that is uncomfortable.

[ts12755]

She was drunk and had to pee bad

[coffeebean]

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[cheweycat]

Amen..amen! No reason single use Bathrooms shouldn’be unisex!

[cheweycat]

Agree!

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Most of the time people just need to pee. I am pretty sure there will be no issues.

[graciegirl]

Nothing bad has ever happened to me in a rest room for my entire life. I don't look for anything to start now.

When my girls were little and acting up when we were shopping I would take them to the restroom and give them a good talking to.

Daughters still tell me they have a bad feeling going into a public restroom. :1rotfl:

[anothersteve]

I'm surprised sometime which topic get people fired up on ToTV.




:popcorn:

Not me.
Steve

[willis100]

Amerikanos Grille has unisex restrooms

[sdeikenberry]

I can tell you on our golf courses, a foursome of men don't care if it's womens or mens...we use them both and get on with the game. I've used women's single use restrooms before, and I've seen women use men's single use restrooms. I don't see the big deal about it.

[DecaturFargo]

If there is only one toilet in each, it makes no sense to wait for a designated bathroom when you have to go. I suspect there's only one in each.

[obesurgeon@aol.com]

Not all "women" are "ladies".

[bluedivergirl]

[QUOTE=retiredguy123;1721142]I agree, but I have not seen any unisex restrooms in The Villages.[/QUOTE

Amerikanos in Spanish Springs has two separate unisex bathrooms.

It has been a number of years, but I confess I have used the men"s bathroom in the past. Women just take longer, and often are caring for children's needs. Why wait for a single-stall bathroom when a room is unused?

[graciegirl]

For many of us as we age, urgent need takes on a whole new meaning.

Any port in a storm.

[ColdNoMore]

While we're at it, let's talk about a huge pet peeve of mine of why so many men refuse to lift the toilet seat (men's or women's restrooms)...before they take a leak?

It's easy to use the side of ones shoe to lift the lid before peeing, or even use toilet paper to reach down and lift it, so why do so many pigs...refuse to do so? :confused:

In fact, a lot of new toilet seats now have an extended portion where lifting the seat...is made even that much easier.

It's simply nasty to follow someone who is too lazy, or an insensitive pig, when you need to sit down...and look at a pi$$ covered toilet seat. :mad:

Do these guys pee all over their own toilet seats at home? :oops:

YUCK!! :ohdear:

[dewilson58]

While we're at it, let's talk about a huge pet peeve of mine of why so many men refuse to lift the toilet seat (men's or women's restrooms)...before they take a leak?

It's easy to use the side of ones shoe to lift the lid before peeing, or even use toilet paper to reach down and lift it, so why do so many pigs...refuse to do so? :confused:

In fact, a lot of new toilet seats now have an extensed portion where lifting the seat...is made even that much easier.

It's simply nasty to follow someone who is too lazy, or an insensitive pig, when you need to sit down...and look at a pi$$ covered toilet seat. :mad:

Do these guys pee all over their own toilet seats at home? :oops:

YUCK!! :ohdear:




Maybe they know U R next.




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:1rotfl:




:1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

Maybe they know U R next.


Is that an admission...you're one of them? :icon_wink:


Color me...not surprised. :ho:

[dewilson58]

Is that an admission...you're one of them? :icon_wink:




Nope, mama taught me well.


Personally..................I hate to see guys go into the ladies facilities just for that reason. I'm not sure there are "a lot of pigs" out there, but it only takes one. And that one makes it gross for ladies. :ohdear:

[theruizs]

I do not understan d why this would be a problem. If it's aroom with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?

What do you think a lady would have said if it was a man standing there and when she went for the ladies room he told her to wait because there’s a line? No matter what you want to claim, we all know the truth of it. I have no problem if we want to treat all lockable single public restrooms as unisex, I can live with it. But I do have a problem if we are expected to treat all such restrooms as usable by woman, but only those marked as Men as usable by men.

[Topspinmo]

Honestly, I do not underand why this is an issue. If it is a single occupancy room why would you care?
Then take the gender signs down.

[Topspinmo]

Nope, mama taught me well.


Personally..................I hate to see guys go into the ladies facilities just for that reason. I'm not sure there are "a lot of pigs" out there, but it only takes one. And that one makes it gross for ladies. :ohdear:

Or visa verse

[JSR22]

What do you think a lady would have said if it was a man standing there and when she went for the ladies room he told her to wait because there’s a line? No matter what you want to claim, we all know the truth of it. I have no problem if we want to treat all lockable single public restrooms as unisex, I can live with it. But I do have a problem if we are expected to treat all such restrooms as usable by woman, but only those marked as Men as usable by men.
I believe in equality for women and men. Who ever is next in line goes into the bathroom.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

World traveling can be a challenge to use public restrooms. For example....... I was not warned of the facilities in The Vatican. To my surprise, the restroom consisted of a hold in the ground with foot imprints in cement for placement of the feet on each sides of the hole. Seriously????

No, not seriously. Those would be the historic toilets on display so people can see what they looked like in ancient Rome.

The actual public restrooms have plumbing, real toilets, and are wheelchair accessible with diaper-changing stations.

[karostay]

All this fuss...Single use starter shacks

[GeoGeo]

Not in The Villages, but we have been out and I have had to go to the restroom really bad and my husband has made me go in the men's restroom (a one room type with a lock on the door), when the ladies room has been occupied. May the lady in line had to go really bad and was going to take first available rahter than have an embarrasing accident?

[skyking]

Explain to me how it is dangerous for a woman to use a one toilet men's room?

[villagerjack]

Not in The Villages, but we have been out and I have had to go to the restroom really bad and my husband has made me go in the men's restroom (a one room type with a lock on the door), when the ladies room has been occupied. May the lady in line had to go really bad and was going to take first available rahter than have an embarrasing accident?

You never know just as we will never know how bad the man had to go before having an accident. That is never the criteria for using restrooms. Signs on the doors is the more accepted one.

[villagerjack]

What do you think a lady would have said if it was a man standing there and when she went for the ladies room he told her to wait because there’s a line? No matter what you want to claim, we all know the truth of it. I have no problem if we want to treat all lockable single public restrooms as unisex, I can live with it. But I do have a problem if we are expected to treat all such restrooms as usable by woman, but only those marked as Men as usable by men.

I agree with your conclusion.

[Barefoot]

Both doors have a lock who really cares who goes in:agree:

[villagerjack]

While we're at it, let's talk about a huge pet peeve of mine of why so many men refuse to lift the toilet seat (men's or women's restrooms)...before they take a leak?

It's easy to use the side of ones shoe to lift the lid before peeing, or even use toilet paper to reach down and lift it, so why do so many pigs...refuse to do so? :confused:

In fact, a lot of new toilet seats now have an extended portion where lifting the seat...is made even that much easier.

It's simply nasty to follow someone who is too lazy, or an insensitive pig, when you need to sit down...and look at a pi$$ covered toilet seat. :mad:

Do these guys pee all over their own toilet seats at home? :oops:

YUCK!! :ohdear:

Since some women use the Men’s Room which you seem to advocate and since we now know from this thread (always learning something new...I had no idea ) many women do not sit but stand and aim, how do you know it was , as you so gently put it, a Male “Pig” and not a Female “Pig”. Or perhaps, a “Pig”with a little of both Make and Female characteristics?

[flexiblesink131]

Speak with the manager?

[ColdNoMore]

Since some women use the Men’s Room which you seem to advocate and since we now know from this thread (always learning something new...I had no idea ) many women do not sit but stand and aim, how do you know it was , as you so gently put it, a Male “Pig” and not a Female “Pig”. Or perhaps, a “Pig”with a little of both Make and Female characteristics?

That's always a possibility (regardless of how remote), but my personal experiences have primarily been using the restroom directly after a man has come out...and there's pee all over the still lowered seat.

If you do that and someone going in after you says..."do you pee on your seat at home too?"...it could've be me that said it. :ho:

As someone above noted, the perfect example of this subject are the lone bathrooms...at many starter shacks.

[dougjb]

The so-called "danger" in this...exists only in one's minds...especially if you are in North Carolina.

Otherwise, when "you gotta go, you gotta go".

When there is a line, just wait your turn! This is such a non-issue!

[ColdNoMore]

Explain to me how it is dangerous for a woman to use a one toilet men's room?

YEP...exactly! :oops:

It's primarily a made up hypothetical to disguise...misogynistic views. :ohdear:

[Bogie Shooter]

I think any man who has to wait for a woman to use the "mens' room" should be grateful. It means the toilet seat has _probably_ been wiped off, by the woman, before she sat down on it.

:ohdear: Or it's real wet because she didn't sit down on it! :popcorn:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

I quit reading after 75 posts.
Time to get a new dog poop thread going...…..

[ColdNoMore]

:1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Life is...GREAT! :D

[Two Bills]

They say line dancing was invented by women waiting outside the ladies!

[villagerjack]

The so-called "danger" in this...exists only in one's minds...especially if you are in North Carolina.

Otherwise, when "you gotta go, you gotta go".

When there is a line, just wait your turn! This is such a non-issue!

Google is your friend.

Seattle Jogger Attacked in Public Bathroom Fights Back (https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/seattle-jogger-attacked-in-public-bathroom-fights-back.html)


https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-attacked-in-restroom-by-stranger-in-sebastian-police-say

[Shamp]

all single toilets/bathrooms should be designated as either. It's ridiculous to stand in line when the4re is a toilet open. Perhaps this lady had an immediate need, who knows but it shouldn't make a difference unless there is more than one toilet. The Villages and it's renters should make these changes. It would help they guys too on the golf courses. In Italy, regardless of number of toilets, they are unisex with floor to ceiling stalls, and everyone uses them then uses the same sinks. It works out very nicely and jeeps the line moving.

[ColdNoMore]

Google is your friend.

Seattle Jogger Attacked in Public Bathroom Fights Back (https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/seattle-jogger-attacked-in-public-bathroom-fights-back.html)


https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-attacked-in-restroom-by-stranger-in-sebastian-police-say

Especially if one is trying to cherry-pick and use infrequent incidents...to try and falsely make a larger point. :ohdear:

Here's a very short Google list...of parking lot attacks on women.


Pregnant Woman Attacked in Mall Parking Lot on Thanksgiving [Video] (https://news.yahoo.com/pregnant-woman-attacked-mall-parking-140403536.html)

Woman reportedly attacked in parking lot, car stolen - W.Va. man arrested - The Point Pleasant Register (https://www.mydailyregister.com/top-stories/49660/woman-reportedly-attacked-in-parking-lot-car-stolen-w-va-man-arrested)

Woman attacked & robbed in North Nashville office parking lot after work – Scoop: Nashville (https://www.scoopnashville.com/2019/02/woman-attacked-robbed-in-north-nashville-office-parking-lot-after-work/)

https://www.crime-safety-security.com/Parking-Lot-Safety.html


So, do you try to forbid your wife/daughter's/granddaughter.'s...from walking in parking lots?

If not...why not? :oops:

[Gary Moscowitz]

We’re I a woman, I would not want to use the Men’s Room. Sadly men, in many cases don’t even bother to lift the seat up if it’s a one seater restroom! They’ll pee on the seat and not care to clean up afterwards. When it comes to public restrooms many men are simply slobs! Sad but true!

[ColdNoMore]

We’re I a woman, I would not want to use the Men’s Room. Sadly men, in many cases don’t even bother to lift the seat up if it’s a one seater restroom! They’ll pee on the seat and not care to clean up afterwards. When it comes to public restrooms many men are simply slobs! Sad but true!

Just out of curiosity, have you read all of the other posts in this thread?

[rugbyjohn]

Don't confuse "all men" with your husband.

[kenoc7]

"]I do not understand why this would be a problem. If it's a room with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?"


I agree; it is time for all public places where there are two washrooms that the washrooms be designated as unisex. Golfers have done this for years - men's day, line-ups for the men's, use the women's; women's day, line-up for the women's, use the mens.

[Sheldon]

I agree, if I must go and there is a line at the men's room I suppose I can use the ladies room!

[Velvet]

Yes, but when you have to go.... the absolute worst place ever that I came across was on the street across from the Moulin Rouge in Paris. I had taken my teenage daughter to the early show (more artistic, not porno as compared to later show). We tried to walk home but needed the facilities. I went in first. Only place I had to use a Kleenex to even touch the door handle. Everything, including the walls..... unbelievable. A little acrobatics so absolutely nothing would touch me. My daughter had to do the same. It took a bite out of our lovely evening.

[RedChariot]

well sure, it would be *preferred*. I'd also prefer my ladies room to have my name on the door, with a lock, where only i and my personal bathroom-cleaning servant have the key, and i'd like a bidet in there too that keeps the water spray at a consistent warm temperature 24/7 just in case i have to get up at 2:37am for a quick wizzeroo. I also want my hand towels made of crisp burgundy linen, with matching guest towels and accessories, and all the walls painted a warm cream - semi-gloss, thankyouverymuch.

But if i gotta go, i gotta go. I'll use the crusty nasty dank smelling mens' room if i have to, and i will wipe the seat and put tp on it after, because the only time i'm gonna cop a squat is if i'm outdoors hiking, behind a tree.

gross!

[villagerjack]

Especially if one is trying to cherry-pick and use infrequent incidents...to try and falsely make a larger point. :ohdear:

Here's a very short Google list...of parking lot attacks on women.


Pregnant Woman Attacked in Mall Parking Lot on Thanksgiving [Video] (https://news.yahoo.com/pregnant-woman-attacked-mall-parking-140403536.html)

Woman reportedly attacked in parking lot, car stolen - W.Va. man arrested - The Point Pleasant Register (https://www.mydailyregister.com/top-stories/49660/woman-reportedly-attacked-in-parking-lot-car-stolen-w-va-man-arrested)

Woman attacked & robbed in North Nashville office parking lot after work – Scoop: Nashville (https://www.scoopnashville.com/2019/02/woman-attacked-robbed-in-north-nashville-office-parking-lot-after-work/)

Parking Lot Safety for Women FAQ (https://www.crime-safety-security.com/Parking-Lot-Safety.html)


So, do you try to forbid your wife/daughter's/granddaughter.'s...from walking in parking lots?

If not...why not? :oops:

Poster said there was no danger for women from men using the ladies room..

I cited cases where women were attacked in ladies room by men using the ladies room..

You countered by saying there is danger in parking lots for women.

DUH?

Did you get enough sleep?

[ColdNoMore]

Poster said there was no danger for women from men using the ladies room..

I cited cases where women were attacked in ladies room by men using the ladies room..

You countered by saying there is danger in parking lots for women.

DUH?

Did you get enough sleep?

BOTH of your examples, were of attacks in multiple stall, public restrooms...without main door locks.

This entire thread, has dealt with SINGLE use restrooms (with locks)...and whether or not they are safe.

In your desperation, you have tried mixing apples and trucks...and I've simply set you straight.

You're welcome. :ho:

[karostay]

:wave: Coming from Maine this subject is a P I S S ah

[christiewright]

I completely agree. Both men and women use the same bathroom at home. Is this a cootie thing or just what you were reared when it was not prevalent?

[villagerjack]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1721481]
BOTH of your examples, were of attacks in multiple stall, public restrooms...without main door locks.

This entire thread, has dealt with SINGLE use restrooms (with locks)...and whether or not they are safe.

In your desperation, you have tried mixing apples and trucks...and I've simply set you straight.

You're welcome. :ho:[/QUOTE

Actually you mixed bathrooms and parking lots.

So the men entering a women’s bathroom would look to see if it was a single lock bathroom and if so, he would leave and not attack the woman?

Why would he do that ?

Hmmmm..

DUUBLE DUH!

[ColdNoMore]

I completely agree. Both men and women use the same bathroom at home. Is this a cootie thing or just what you were reared when it was not prevalent?

Good luck explaining to the dense, something that should be obvious...as I give up. :oops:


:D

[graciegirl]

I completely agree. Both men and women use the same bathroom at home. Is this a cootie thing or just what you were reared when it was not prevalent?

What is your question?

[Fuzz323]

I do not understan d why this would be a problem. If it's aroom with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?

It all depends on how bad you have to go and how far away the next available loo is!!

[coffeebean]

No, not seriously. Those would be the historic toilets on display so people can see what they looked like in ancient Rome.

The actual public restrooms have plumbing, real toilets, and are wheelchair accessible with diaper-changing stations.

It was many years ago when I visited Italy. Believe me, those holes in the ground were in use, not just on display.

[anothersteve]

It was many years ago when I visited Italy. Believe me, those holes in the ground were in use, not just on display.

Same thing in Tokyo in the 70's.............when in Rome........
Steve

[coffeebean]

Google is your friend.

Seattle Jogger Attacked in Public Bathroom Fights Back (https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/seattle-jogger-attacked-in-public-bathroom-fights-back.html)


https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-attacked-in-restroom-by-stranger-in-sebastian-police-say

The article states the attacker was "hiding in one of the stalls". Sounds like this was not a single stall restroom which this thread has been addressing.

[CFrance]

I think the problem is with the lady, not the restrooms. OP indicated they were labeled Men's and Women's. There was no line for the Men's. She was in the line for the Women's, not both of them.

If we don't follow at least some of the world's signs, uncomfortable things could happen.

[skyking]

Google is your friend.

Seattle Jogger Attacked in Public Bathroom Fights Back (https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/seattle-jogger-attacked-in-public-bathroom-fights-back.html)


https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-attacked-in-restroom-by-stranger-in-sebastian-police-say

Google is only your friend if you can read. We are talking about one toilet rooms like yours at home, but with a "Men" or "Women " sign on the door. I have used the one labeled "Women" at the neighborhood pool and guess what? They're both the same!

[tsouth]

Actually, it’s not that uncommon in TV. I think it started on the golf courses, where there is often just one restroom. Not really a big deal, but locking the door is recommended.

[Indydealmaker]

Whatever your sex at birth, that is yours for life.

[CWGUY]

Actually, it’s not that uncommon in TV. I think it started on the golf courses, where there is often just one restroom. Not really a big deal, but locking the door is recommended.

If there is only one restroom.......:rolleyes:

[CWGUY]

:ohdear: Won't be long and you will be hearing " Yeah I have 3 kids ...... 1 of each." :icon_wink:

[wisbad1]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.
don't think she'd want to when I got done

[CWGUY]

Google is only your friend if you can read. We are talking about one toilet rooms like yours at home, but with a "Men" or "Women " sign on the door. I have used the one labeled "Women" at the neighborhood pool and guess what? They're both the same!

:shrug: May I ask why? Were you :confused: that day? :popcorn:

[anothersteve]

Whatever your sex at birth, that is yours for life.

You trying to start trouble with that radical thinking? :icon_wink:

Steve

[Two Bills]

You trying to start trouble with that radical thinking? :icon_wink:

Steve

Our heads are the same at home, but if I have a dump in the one my wife uses, you can forget all this "Who cares which one you use nonsense!!" :boxing2:

[anothersteve]

Our heads are the same at home, but if I have a dump in the one my wife uses, you can forget all this "Who cares which one you use nonsense!!" :boxing2:


That's it.......go ahead and make light of a serious situation!!
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Steve

[PugMom]

but, what if who you thought was a woman, was actually a man? that's the 1st thing i'd assume.

[villagerjack]

Google is only your friend if you can read. We are talking about one toilet rooms like yours at home, but with a "Men" or "Women " sign on the door. I have used the one labeled "Women" at the neighborhood pool and guess what? They're both the same!

You miss the point. It is not that toilets are different in ladies and men’s rooms. They are not. At home, I can be assured that my wife or I will not be assaulted in my bathroom but allowing men unquestioned entrance to a public ladies room where they can hide, yes even in a single use bathroom, is very dangerous. Spotting a man Entering a ladies room should send an alarm but mainstreaming it will not. Obey the signs on the doors. It’s that simple and it has worked for decades. Not broke...don’t fix.

[ColdNoMore]

You miss the point. It is not that toilets are different in ladies and men’s rooms. They are not. At home, I can be assured that my wife or I will not be assaulted in my bathroom but allowing men unquestioned entrance to a public ladies room where they can hide, yes even in a single use bathroom, is very dangerous. Spotting a man Entering a ladies room should send an alarm but mainstreaming it will not. Obey the signs on the doors. It’s that simple and it has worked for decades. Not broke...don’t fix.

Pure baloney as far as a single use restroom, with a lock, being any less safe for women, than say...a parking lot. :oops:

Anyone with even half a brain, can see exactly...what the real agenda is here. :ohdear:


.

[anothersteve]

I must have less than half a brain.
"Exactly" what is "the real agenda"? And, agenda to what?

[Andyb]

The world we live in. Many U S states, they have gender neutral bathrooms, new liberal laws.

[LI SNOWBIRD]

The only true mixed men/women's room that had urinals and stalls in one room was in a store in The Vatican Rome.

[dewilson58]

Getting very close to our first: Human Poop thread.


:a040:

[billethkid]

The thread subject is simple.
The agenda? Depends on replies.

[airstreamingypsy]

I am a woman, I have used men's rooms, when it was a single seater. Sometimes someone goes into a lady's room and seems to never come out. If the men's room next door is empty, why not use it? What difference does it make? I thought I had read every possible complaint and yet...... here's a new one. It's a bathroom, it doesn't matter who uses it, as long as there aren't multiple stalls.

[CWGUY]

I am a woman, I have used men's rooms, when it was a single seater. Sometimes someone goes into a lady's room and seems to never come out. If the men's room next door is empty, why not use it? What difference does it make? I thought I had read every possible complaint and yet...... here's a new one. It's a bathroom, it doesn't matter who uses it, as long as there aren't multiple stalls.

:rolleyes: Dad, why is that lady in here? Oh, it's o.k. son she's just counting stalls...... there's more than one she won't stay. :1rotfl:

[theruizs]

Men waiting in line outside a Mens room that’s in use, door unlocks and a woman comes out. Men look but don’t say a word and the next in line goes in. Now, women waiting in line outside a Ladies room that’s in use, door unlocks and a man comes out. His funeral is tomorrow. ;-)

[villagerjack]

I am a woman, I have used men's rooms, when it was a single seater. Sometimes someone goes into a lady's room and seems to never come out. If the men's room next door is empty, why not use it? What difference does it make? I thought I had read every possible complaint and yet...... here's a new one. It's a bathroom, it doesn't matter who uses it, as long as there aren't multiple stalls.


Does that mean that you can park in a No Parking Zone when all the spots are filled? Use the Exit in the theater when the Entrance has a line? Convenience should not take a back seat to safety. Signs on bathrooms have been there for as long as I lived, perhaps longer. Why do you want to change it now? Perhaos some bright mind could come up with a better solution to shorten the time women take in bathrooms because it is not Men demanding to use Womens Rest Rooms, but Women demanding to use Men’s Rooms.

[Alana33]

When you HAVE TO GO, use whatever is available!

[JSR22]

I feel perfectly safe in a one stall bathroom with the door locked. A sign Men or Women is irrelevant.

[EdFNJ]

Does that mean that you can park in a No Parking Zone when all the spots are filled? Use the Exit in the theater when the Entrance has a line? Such irrelative analogies. You can do better then that. :)

[OhioBuckeye]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.
I've ran into the same thing at 5 guys in Brownwood. But myself I do understand why the women started using the Men's Room. If You got to go, you got to go where there's availability & the men's room was unoccupied so they use it. Actually I've done the same thing. But in your defense the ladies should of backed off & waited for you to use the bathroom, after all it does say MEN'S ROOM. They should of left you do your business then use it again until another male had to use their legal rest room. You know you could of just went in & stood at the urinal & did your business then if some inconsiderate lady said something you could of said "The Door says Men".

[Gerryk12]

What don't you understand? The words are obvious. The signage "Men" and "Women" don't really need to be changed!

[croughwell]

Probably just another self-centered and entitled Villager. Don't worry, you'll get used to it in time...

[JSR22]

I think the signs should be changed on single stall bathrooms to Unisex.

[VApeople]

I think the signs should be changed on single stall bathrooms to Unisex.

I very much agree.

We went to the beautiful Washington Oaks state park located between St. Augustine and the town of Flagler and the new rest rooms were all unisex. I thought that was great.

We have been going there for almost 50 years and it is more beautiful than ever. It has no food service but just south of the park is Caprain's BBQ, which was very good. Of course, we really miss the nearby restaurant (or dive) at Matanzas inlet, but that got washed away by hurricane Mathew in 2016.

[croughwell]

Yes.... Yes it does... If you are an entitled villager and the rules don't apply to you!

[villagerjack]

The problem originated because for some unexplained reason, women take longer than men. If the opposite were true you would not hear women saying that it was OK for Men to use the Ladies Rooms. In fact, they would likely defend their turf. In all these posts there has not been a single comment from anyone with a suggestion as to how Women could do their part for other Women by shortening their stay in the ladies room, which after all is the problem. There is not that much of a difference in procedures between men and women so what ever else is going on on there should be addressed by women and no need to invade the rooms reserved for Men for at least 100 years or more.

[villagerjack]

Such irrelative analogies. You can do better then that. :)


Like Laws, you do not get to decide which sign you obey and which sign you honor. To say or do otherwise, creates chaos.

[Velvet]

If there are not enough stalls to accommodate users, perhaps the signs on these one person only restrooms, should say “Restroom” and nothing else.

I’m sorry if females take longer in the restroom, perhaps it is to make ourselves look extra nice for you guys?

[rondvu2]

I personally prefer not to use the men's room as us ladies have to sit on the seat and sometimes the men (no offense) miss where they are aiming! Ladies rooms should be for Ladies and Men's rooms for Men!

[New Englander]

Pure baloney as far as a single use restroom, with a lock, being any less safe for women, than say...a parking lot. :oops:

Anyone with even half a brain, can see exactly...what the real agenda is here. :ohdear:


.

Okay, I'll bite. What agenda are you talking about?

[CWGUY]

Okay, I'll bite. What agenda are you talking about?

Me too! What am I missing? :confused:

[anothersteve]

Okay, I'll bite. What agenda are you talking about?

I asked that last night.................
Steve

[CWGUY]

I asked that last night.................
Steve

I just went back and reread the OP...... I'll be damned if I see an agenda. I also didn't see single use or lock in the first 4 posts. Then it started to go down hill. :popcorn:

[anothersteve]

Then it started to go down hill. :popcorn:

It always does

[EdFNJ]

I just went back and reread the OP...... I'll be damned if I see an agenda. I also didn't see single use or lock in the first 4 posts. Then it started to go down hill. :popcorn: Good point although I haven't been there in a long time IIRC the restrooms in 5 Guys are both single use with lock. The OP just seemed to have left that out but it did seem so from the post. Probably would have helped this thread if it was more specific. Nahhh, it wouldn't have helped since it's a rainy day in The Villages.

[villagerjack]

I just went back and reread the OP...... I'll be damned if I see an agenda. I also didn't see single use or lock in the first 4 posts. Then it started to go down hill. :popcorn:

You are correct, that was added by those who try to avoid addressing the real issue. Men’s Rooms are for Men and Ladies Rooms are for ladies. Disobeying signs is disobeying signs. There is no Agenda other than that. Society was OK with that for at least 100 years or more. No need to change now. Case closed.

[EdFNJ]

You are correct, that was added by those who try to avoid addressing the real issue. Men’s Rooms are for Men and Ladies Rooms are for ladies. Disobeying signs is disobeying signs. There is no Agenda other than that. Society was OK with that for at least 100 years or more. No need to change now. Case closed. Society was also OK with separate black & white drinking fountains, slavery and women not allowed to vote. The times do change. Sometimes one has to just accept change. I find that more difficult as I grow older but that's life.

[CWGUY]

Good point although I haven't been there in a long time IIRC the restrooms in 5 Guys are both single use with lock. The OP just seemed to have left that out but it did seem so from the post. Probably would have helped this thread if it was more specific. Nahhh, it wouldn't have helped since it's a rainy day in The Villages.

:ohdear: I don't think the OP left anything out..... he posted what he wanted to post (maybe not what others wanted him to post) and part of that post was he never went in the restroom. "it was “in use” and I went on my way" is exactly what he said. I have never been it that Mens Room and certainly not in the Womans Room there. I'm not a stall counter..... but like the OP , I am a sign reader and a rule follower. How it got turned into this Playhouse 90 is beyond me. But that's TOTV. :rolleyes:

[frankbbf]

Thirty years ago we had an beautiful exchange student from Spain staying with us at our home in small town Bryan, Ohio. Mercedes was often sent home from high school by the assistant principal because her clothes, hardly different from her classmates', were too revealing. She used a one-stall men's room at a local fast food joint, and the police were waiting for her when she came out.

They let her go with a warning.

[Two Bills]

I personally prefer not to use the men's room as us ladies have to sit on the seat and sometimes the men (no offense) miss where they are aiming! Ladies rooms should be for Ladies and Men's rooms for Men!


I love you!!!:):icon_wink:

[ColdNoMore]

Okay, I'll bite. What agenda are you talking about?

Read post #159 and the obvious attitude toward women. :oops:

It's self-explanatory and there's even...a word for it. :D

[villagerjack]

Society was also OK with separate black & white drinking fountains, slavery and women not allowed to vote. The times do change. Sometimes one has to just accept change. I find that more difficult as I grow older but that's life.

No need for changes when we already have “Rest Room Equality” with Men’s Rooms and Ladies Rooms. Gender separation is very commonplace in our Society in Locker Rooms, Showers, Steam Rooms and yes, Rest Rooms. No ones rights are being violated as they were in the atrocious examples you cited. If there is a strong desire for gender sharing restrooms, the way to approach it would be to lobby authorities and not Willy Nilly invade the facilities of the other gender without their permission. So far there has not been such a movement. Perhaps you can lead the way and accomplish what you want the right way instead of trying to force your singular views on others by lecturing the rest of us to “accept change” when what you really mean is to accept YOUR changes without the participation of all Villagers.

[villagerjack]

Read post #159 and the obvious attitude toward women. :oops:

It's self-explanatory and there's even...a word for it. :D

I re-read it. Sounds like you don’t have any faith in women to solve their own issues without bring men into the picture. The majority of us are really past making such assumptions.

[anothersteve]

I still don't see what post #159 has to do with an "agenda"
Steve

[EdFNJ]

No need for changes when we already have “Rest Room Equality” with Men’s Rooms and Ladies Rooms. Gender separation is very commonplace in our Society in Locker Rooms, Showers, Steam Rooms and yes, Rest Rooms. No ones rights are being violated as they were in the atrocious examples you cited. If there is a strong desire for gender sharing restrooms, the way to approach it would be to lobby authorities and not Willy Nilly invade the facilities of the other gender without their permission. So far there has not been such a movement. Perhaps you can lead the way and accomplish what you want the right way instead of trying to force your singular views on others by lecturing the rest of us to “accept change” when what you really mean is to accept YOUR changes without the participation of all Villagers. Why am I "forcing" my views on anyone any more (or less) than you or anyone else posting in this thread is? Are only "special" people allowed to have an opinion different than yours here? Why is my opinion any better or worse than yours? Because I don't agree with you? How can I "force" it on you since you simply don't have accept it? You can think as you please as can I.

There is ALWAYS need for change. We may not like it but change happens. Even the "horrible" stuff I listed before, at that time people had to fight for the change because everyone accepted it as it was. The fact it is extreme has nothing to do with it. But "parking between the lines" really has nothing to do with changes in how we live our daily lives. Thing is, I NEVER said I disagreed with you, in fact I don't. Doesn't mean I can't accept change even if I am not happy with it.

Edit: If a woman p1ssing in a men's room (or vice versa) disturbs anyone so much they have the option to call the cops or not go in when s/he is done or go elsewhere or wear depends or just be upset and create a 200 page thread over it. Is it really something to be so incensed over? Many more important things to be concerned over here in The Villages like parking where one is not allowed or getting a Costco in The Villages or dogs pooping on someones lawn or driving a golf cart over 20mph. Keep smiling and don't drink to much liquids. :D

[skyking]

You miss the point. It is not that toilets are different in ladies and men’s rooms. They are not. At home, I can be assured that my wife or I will not be assaulted in my bathroom but allowing men unquestioned entrance to a public ladies room where they can hide, yes even in a single use bathroom, is very dangerous. Spotting a man Entering a ladies room should send an alarm but mainstreaming it will not. Obey the signs on the doors. It’s that simple and it has worked for decades. Not broke...don’t fix.
So advising law abiding gentlemen who really have a need not to use a one toilet bathroom will stop male criminals from attacking women? Who knew? I bet if we take guns from law abiding citizens that will stop criminals from shooting people also.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

True story: my first year of college, in a dorm of 30 complete and total strangers I knew nothing about. It was not only a co-ed dorm, but there were only 4 bathrooms that weren't part of a semi-private suite on the top floor. So around 20 of us shared 4 bathrooms. Strangely enough we managed. There was no womens' room or mens' room. If we heard the shower running, we'd call loudly to find out who was in it. If a guy answered when I knocked on the door, I'd yell that I'd come back later. Soon as he was out, I went in. If it was a woman, I'd tell her I'm coming in to use the toilet, or brush my teeth, or whatever.

Eventually it stopped mattering, but we were all adults and could handle a little awkwardness the first week of school.

Not a single one of them attempted to molest any of the others, or feel threatened by any of the others.

This whole "omg a man in a woman's bathroom is gonna molest mah babbeh" stuff is just paranoia. Even in shared bathrooms with individual toilet stalls, there's really nothing to worry about except MAYBE an 8-year-old boy peeking under the stall in a woman's bathroom, and giggling because he sees Susie perched on the toilet.

Trauma, it isn't.

[villagerjack]

So advising law abiding gentlemen who really have a need not to use a one toilet bathroom will stop male criminals from attacking women? Who knew? I bet if we take guns from law abiding citizens that will stop criminals from shooting people also.

Nice to be clairvoyant but if I saw a man entering a woman’s bathroom , would immediately report it to authorities which is what I did years ago while in Trinidad. Security took the man into custody. My wife and I both believe that action saved her from being sexually assaulted.

[villagerjack]

True story: my first year of college, in a dorm of 30 complete and total strangers I knew nothing about. It was not only a co-ed dorm, but there were only 4 bathrooms that weren't part of a semi-private suite on the top floor. So around 20 of us shared 4 bathrooms. Strangely enough we managed. There was no womens' room or mens' room. If we heard the shower running, we'd call loudly to find out who was in it. If a guy answered when I knocked on the door, I'd yell that I'd come back later. Soon as he was out, I went in. If it was a woman, I'd tell her I'm coming in to use the toilet, or brush my teeth, or whatever.

Eventually it stopped mattering, but we were all adults and could handle a little awkwardness the first week of school.

Not a single one of them attempted to molest any of the others, or feel threatened by any of the others.

This whole "omg a man in a woman's bathroom is gonna molest mah babbeh" stuff is just paranoia. Even in shared bathrooms with individual toilet stalls, there's really nothing to worry about except MAYBE an 8-year-old boy peeking under the stall in a woman's bathroom, and giggling because he sees Susie perched on the toilet.


Trauma, it isn't.

Nice way to live however the discussion here involves public facilities and not private dorms where all students are registered. For my money living under those conditions would be unacceptable although I did shower in a stall with seven other people at the same time and sat next to five others inches apart on toilets without any barriers, we were all of the same gender and being 17 and in the Military with no other choice, somehow I lived through it. But those same conditions would be completely unacceptable to most people, including me, today. But this too is way off topic.

It seems easier to just obey the signs.

[graciegirl]

True story: my first year of college, in a dorm of 30 complete and total strangers I knew nothing about. It was not only a co-ed dorm, but there were only 4 bathrooms that weren't part of a semi-private suite on the top floor. So around 20 of us shared 4 bathrooms. Strangely enough we managed. There was no womens' room or mens' room. If we heard the shower running, we'd call loudly to find out who was in it. If a guy answered when I knocked on the door, I'd yell that I'd come back later. Soon as he was out, I went in. If it was a woman, I'd tell her I'm coming in to use the toilet, or brush my teeth, or whatever.

Eventually it stopped mattering, but we were all adults and could handle a little awkwardness the first week of school.

Not a single one of them attempted to molest any of the others, or feel threatened by any of the others.

This whole "omg a man in a woman's bathroom is gonna molest mah babbeh" stuff is just paranoia. Even in shared bathrooms with individual toilet stalls, there's really nothing to worry about except MAYBE an 8-year-old boy peeking under the stall in a woman's bathroom, and giggling because he sees Susie perched on the toilet.

Trauma, it isn't.



I am not a homophobe nor am I concerned with gender of any kind but I do think the man and woman signs are fine and see no reason for anyone to get their pink or blue knickers in a hitch to change them in order to appear kinder and more superior to others. You can't legislate kindness or acceptance and the ones who carry banners about bullying on this forum are often the most angry people looking to shout down others based on the others inferior assessment of the universe.

We cannot make people more sensitive by being harsh and mean. Most people are born with recognizable genitalia but many people have mannerisms and behavior that do not mesh with their equipment. No one likes to be looked down on. A lot of things dealt to us at birth are not a choice.

I don't think any of our very complicated problems about gender can be solved by changing the mens and ladies signs on bathrooms.

[Velvet]

Alternative suggestions to long line up at restrooms when you really have to go? Anybody?

As a brand new, inexperienced teacher, I remember asking one of my grade 2 students to wait a couple of minutes to use the restroom due to a certain situation. This child did not like to be told what to do, he pulled down his pants and went under his desk. Other teachers told me he had a habit of doing this. I sometimes wonder what he does now as an adult.

[emtacba]

i do not understan d why this would be a problem. If it's aroom with one toilet and sink and locks why would anyone care?

i agree completly.
Signs should just read: “restroom.”

[SteveL]

OH Sorry, I left the seat up.

[emtacba]

For single use restrooms, it should not matter. Sign should read: “RESTROOM.” Anyone can use either. Sometimes people with conditions or urgency cannot wait !!! Please understand that. Leave them alone. Better than they have an accident on the floor while waiting.
If there are two single use RR side by side, just let the person use whichever is empty. Take down the men & women signs. Put up Restroom instead !
No problems. I have seen in large restrooms all over where people have gone into either gender’s side when there were long lines. They could NOT wait. It was URGENT “or else.”
Understand? Please be considerate and compassionate. ������

[villagerjack]

i agree completly.
Signs should just read: “restroom.”

But they don’t. So please obey the signs. You don’t get to decide which signs to obey and which signs to disregard. It creates chaos especially for others who follow the rules.

[emtacba]

Just let anyone enter a single use RR. Take down the signs and just put up a RESTROOM sign.
True story: Here 30 years. Was at McD’s on 466A. Suddenly had to go. Men’s room full. Ran into Ladies Room. Friend who was with me stood outside the door until I was out. Had I not done that, it would have been a severe diarrhea accident on the floor requiring the place to shut down!
No one would want that disaster.
So, please be considerate and understanding ! Thanks!

[coffeebean]

You miss the point. It is not that toilets are different in ladies and men’s rooms. They are not. At home, I can be assured that my wife or I will not be assaulted in my bathroom but allowing men unquestioned entrance to a public ladies room where they can hide, yes even in a single use bathroom, is very dangerous. Spotting a man Entering a ladies room should send an alarm but mainstreaming it will not. Obey the signs on the doors. It’s that simple and it has worked for decades. Not broke...don’t fix.[

But.....you are missing the point. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Most women will not go into a single toilet men's room if there is a reasonable line for the ladies room. However.....if and when a women has to REALLY go, the line for the ladies room is 10 deep and there is NO LINE for the single toilet men's room, why not use the available men's room? That truly is a no brainer.

[emtacba]

LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE. Single use restrooms should not matter. Many times the need is urgent. “Any port in a storm.” Better than having an accident of urine or diarrhea on the floor.
Please understand that people with medical conditions sometimes just CANNOT wait. Please show compassion and empathy. See my explanation further down on here.
Peace !

[coffeebean]

Pure baloney as far as a single use restroom, with a lock, being any less safe for women, than say...a parking lot. :oops:

Anyone with even half a brain, can see exactly...what the real agenda is here. :ohdear:


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Esplain, Lucy!

[emtacba]

PLEASE READ MY REPLY , #190, DOWN BELOW.
THANKS.
What should I have done? Suggestions?

[coffeebean]

I am a woman, I have used men's rooms, when it was a single seater. Sometimes someone goes into a lady's room and seems to never come out. If the men's room next door is empty, why not use it? What difference does it make? I thought I had read every possible complaint and yet...... here's a new one. It's a bathroom, it doesn't matter who uses it, as long as there aren't multiple stalls.

Oh my gosh, YES!!! I forgot about that scenario. I'm standing there with my legs crossed, next to go into the single toilet Ladies restroom and the door is still locked and no one comes out. That has happened to me a few times. What do I do? I use the single use men's room. DONE!

[coffeebean]

Men waiting in line outside a Mens room that’s in use, door unlocks and a woman comes out. Men look but don’t say a word and the next in line goes in. Now, women waiting in line outside a Ladies room that’s in use, door unlocks and a man comes out. His funeral is tomorrow. ;-)

Not really, but that is funny! We have all come to realize, as long as we have lived on this earth, that if there is going to be a line outside of a single toilet restroom, it will most assuredly be outside the ladies room. It is quite odd to see a man leaving the ladies room than vice versa. It is what it is.

[billethkid]

common sense usually goes a long way, even on this subject!

[emtacba]

Please read my reply, #190 below, and advise.
What should I have done?
What would You have done?
Not a joke. Serious.
Thanks!

[CWGUY]

Just let anyone enter a single use RR. Take down the signs and just put up a RESTROOM sign.
True story: Here 30 years. Was at McD’s on 466A. Suddenly had to go. Men’s room full. Ran into Ladies Room. Friend who was with me stood outside the door until I was out. Had I not done that, it would have been a severe diarrhea accident on the floor requiring the place to shut down!
No one would want that disaster.
So, please be considerate and understanding ! Thanks!

:ohdear: TMI :boom:

[villagerjack]

For single use restrooms, it should not matter. Sign should read: “RESTROOM.” Anyone can use either. Sometimes people with conditions or urgency cannot wait !!! Please understand that. Leave them alone. Better than they have an accident on the floor while waiting.
If there are two single use RR side by side, just let the person use whichever is empty. Take down the men & women signs. Put up Restroom instead !
No problems. I have seen in large restrooms all over where people have gone into either gender’s side when there were long lines. They could NOT wait. It was URGENT “or else.”
Understand? Please be considerate and compassionate.

������

To solve a problem it has to be defined. Why is it that there is a line for one restroom so the other restroom has to be used? Until you know the answer to this question, no solution can be had. In the meantime, obey the signs. They are there for a reason. The situation you describe is indeed very rare and we should not be changing the norms of society ...our many signs....based upon exceptional events. I am sure that if an urgent request was made, it would be honored by most if not all of the people involved.

[CWGUY]

Please read my reply, #190 below, and advise.
What should I have done?
What would You have done?
Not a joke. Serious.
Thanks!

:ho: Hate to answer a question with a question...... but if both were occupied what would you have done? :shrug:

Also:
There is a big difference in having an "emergency situation" once in awhile and wanting the world to be "gender neutral" which is what I'm thinking is the agenda with some posters. :ohdear:

[graciegirl]

To solve a problem it has to be defined. Why is it that there is a line for one restroom so the other restroom has to be used? Until you know the answer to this question, no solution can be had. In the meantime, obey the signs. They are there for a reason. The situation you describe is indeed very rare and we should not be changing the norms of society ...our many signs....based upon exceptional events. I am sure that if an urgent request was made, it would be honored by most if not all of the people involved.

I thought I wrote a sensible and kind and open minded answer on here but it didn't stay. I am not for changing the signs. I will say again, changing the signs will not change people's ideas and thoughts.

[graciegirl]

I am not a homophobe nor am I concerned with gender of any kind but I do think the man and woman signs are fine and see no reason for anyone to get their pink or blue knickers in a hitch to change them in order to appear kinder and more superior to others. You can't legislate kindness or acceptance and the ones who carry banners about bullying on this forum are often the most angry people looking to shout down others based on the others inferior assessment of the universe.

We cannot make people more sensitive by being harsh and mean. Most people are born with recognizable genitalia but many people have mannerisms and behavior that do not mesh with their equipment. No one likes to be looked down on. A lot of things dealt to us at birth are not a choice.

I don't think any of our very complicated problems about gender can be solved by changing the mens and ladies signs on bathrooms.

Oh. It didn't disappear. I get my feelings hurt too easily.

[villagerjack]

Just let anyone enter a single use RR. Take down the signs and just put up a RESTROOM sign.
True story: Here 30 years. Was at McD’s on 466A. Suddenly had to go. Men’s room full. Ran into Ladies Room. Friend who was with me stood outside the door until I was out. Had I not done that, it would have been a severe diarrhea accident on the floor requiring the place to shut down!
No one would want that disaster.
So, please be considerate and understanding ! Thanks!

It sounds like your problem was handled properly. So why change the signs that most people, by their acceptance of signs on Restrooms for a hundred years, because you had to go one time in MacDonalds.

[JSR22]

It is time to remove gender signs on single stall rest rooms with locks. It is absurd to have several people waiting in line for one rest room when the other is empty. This is the 21st century. Things change.

[villagerjack]

[QUOTE=villagerjack;1721087]Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys.......>>>

PLEASE READ MY POST, #190, and ADVISE. THANKS.

There are products on the market to handle such events for folks with conditions such as yours. Societal norms, like signs for example, are not changed because one person does not think they are appropriate.

[emtacba]

I would have run outside in the bushes. Emergency! You do what you gotta do.
Look at NYC and SF and elsewhere: the streets are now public toilets.

[CWGUY]

Just let anyone enter a single use RR. Take down the signs and just put up a RESTROOM sign.
True story: Here 30 years. Was at McD’s on 466A. Suddenly had to go. Men’s room full. Ran into Ladies Room. Friend who was with me stood outside the door until I was out. Had I not done that, it would have been a severe diarrhea accident on the floor requiring the place to shut down!
No one would want that disaster.
So, please be considerate and understanding ! Thanks!

:1rotfl: Burger King does it to me! And I'm not even going to talk about Taco Bell......:rolleyes:

[emtacba]

There are NO products on the market that could handle such a HUGE elimination. You do NOT understand. Depends might help with urine. Not able to contain diarrheal feces.
People need to be informed and the ignorance about fecal incontinence must stop. Sorry to be so clinical but people need to know.
With single use RR , it should not matter.
Peace!

[emtacba]

it is time to remove gender signs on single stall rest rooms with locks. It is absurd to have several people waiting in line for one rest room when the other is empty. This is the 21st century. Things change.

you are totally correct.

[villagerjack]

It is time to remove gender signs on single stall rest rooms with locks. It is absurd to have several people waiting in line for one rest room when the other is empty. This is the 21st century. Things change.

What has changed? Are people going to the bathroom more frequently? Please explain why there is a line for one restroom while the other is empty? Pointing out what Century we live in is not a valid reason to alter societal norms for gender and restroom equality.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Getting very puzzling out there. Was Eating in 5 Guys Brownwood and headed for the Mens Room. There was a lady standing outside both rooms which are adjacent to each other. I went to enter the Men’s Room and the lady gave me a look and said “there is a line”. But there were no men on the “line”, only her. I was taken aback by her remark but held back commenting because it was “in use” and I went on my way. I thought to myself that I would NEVER, EVER attempt to enter a Ladies Room but it appears some attitudes and rules have changed? This is dangerous territory especially for women if this becomes normalized. Under some rare and really crowded circumstances, I could see the desire to share these facilities but I think women in particular should be careful in mainstreaming this. Be careful what you wish for. It could get dangerous.

Are you sure that the she was a she and not a he in she clothing?

[JSR22]

Good luck explaining to the dense, something that should be obvious...as I give up. :oops:


:D

What has changed? Are people going to the bathroom more frequently? Please explain why there is a line for one restroom while the other is empty? Pointing out what Century we live in is not a valid reason to alter societal norms for gender and restroom equality.

It was in the last century blacks and whites had separate rest rooms. Equality of race eliminated the separate race bathrooms. Equality of gender should be the norm in the 21st century. It is time for change! The reason for the lines is men unzip most of the time. Women have to remove clothing all of the time.

[villagerjack]

There are NO products on the market that could handle such a HUGE elimination. You do NOT understand. Depends might help with urine. Not able to contain diarrheal feces.
People need to be informed and the ignorance about fecal incontinence must stop. Sorry to be so clinical but people need to know.
With single use RR , it should not matter.
Peace!


It sounds like you have a medical problem that you want others to solve for you. That is not the way polite society functions. We all have issues, especially in a retirement community. I cannot read the menus in most fast food places. What should I do? Demand them to move them closer, use larger lettering, have a staff member read the menu to me? You want to change something that most people are comfortable with because you have a problem. I think you should solve your own problem and I will deal with mine.

[villagerjack]

It was in the last century blacks and whites had separate rest rooms. Equality of race eliminated the separate race bathrooms. Equality of gender should be the norm in the 21st century. It is time for change! The reason for the lines is men unzip most of the time. Women have to remove clothing all of the time.

I already addressed this for you. No ones rights are being violated and to use that travesty to make your point is beyond the pale. We do have Restroom Equality. Equal number of Men’s and Ladies Restrooms. My wife and I usually use different facilities at the same time and 100% of the time she is out before I am. So perhaps you should find another solution. The one you propose is blatant Restroom INEQUALITY. Perhaps a course in Restroom Efficiencies could be more appropriate than tipping the balance of of Equality to favor one gender over the other.

[graciegirl]

There are NO products on the market that could handle such a HUGE elimination. You do NOT understand. Depends might help with urine. Not able to contain diarrheal feces.
People need to be informed and the ignorance about fecal incontinence must stop. Sorry to be so clinical but people need to know.
With single use RR , it should not matter.
Peace!

STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have the visual.

[JSR22]

I already addressed this for you. No ones rights are being violated and to use that travesty to make your point is beyond the pale. We do have Restroom Equality. Equal number of Men’s and Ladies Restrooms. My wife and I usually use different facilities at the same time and 100% of the time she is out before I am. So perhaps you should find another solution. The one you propose is blatant Restroom INEQUALITY.

My choice! If one is empty I will use the empty restroom. The signs are a suggestion not a law.

[Velvet]

Oh, and that reminds me, is there a fine for using the “wrong” restroom? Should there be? Or should us ladies take a temporary sign with us, like the construction workers and erect it incase of emergency.

[villagerjack]

Oh, and that reminds me, is there a fine for using the “wrong” restroom? Should there be? Or should us ladies take a temporary sign with us, like the construction workers and erect it incase of emergency.

Bathroom emergencies have existed for centuries for men and women and until now no one suggested that this Could be solved by removing all signs from restrooms. Perhaps you could get the ball rolling with businesses and Management by lobbying for change rather than violating societal norms. Until then we should obey the signs. There were no open tables at Mc Donald’s the other day except the one labeled handicapped. I was pleased to see that this sign was honored because shortly thereafter a gentleman that needed it was able to use it. Thank God for signs. Signs matter.

[coffeebean]

Does that mean that you can park in a No Parking Zone when all the spots are filled? Use the Exit in the theater when the Entrance has a line? Convenience should not take a back seat to safety. Signs on bathrooms have been there for as long as I lived, perhaps longer. Why do you want to change it now? Perhaos some bright mind could come up with a better solution to shorten the time women take in bathrooms because it is not Men demanding to use Womens Rest Rooms, but Women demanding to use Men’s Rooms.

Women do need to take longer than men in the restroom for the normal act of number one. (I can not believe I'm actually typing this. LOL!) Men don't refresh make-up? Men don't pull up a girdle or panty hose. You get the idea. There is just more going on in a ladies room than a mens room. Give us ladies a break. We do take longer in the restroom than men. It is a fact of life.

[coffeebean]

Yes.... Yes it does... If you are an entitled villager and the rules don't apply to you!

It would help if you quoted the person you are replying to. Without using the quote function, I have no idea who you are addressing. Thank you.

[coffeebean]

The problem originated because for some unexplained reason, women take longer than men. If the opposite were true you would not hear women saying that it was OK for Men to use the Ladies Rooms. In fact, they would likely defend their turf. In all these posts there has not been a single comment from anyone with a suggestion as to how Women could do their part for other Women by shortening their stay in the ladies room, which after all is the problem. There is not that much of a difference in procedures between men and women so what ever else is going on on there should be addressed by women and no need to invade the rooms reserved for Men for at least 100 years or more.

All I can say to this is "Wake up and smell the coffee". You aren't serious. Are you???????

[coffeebean]

I personally prefer not to use the men's room as us ladies have to sit on the seat and sometimes the men (no offense) miss where they are aiming! Ladies rooms should be for Ladies and Men's rooms for Men!

You mean you haven't mastered the " public restroom - hover over the toilet with the seat up and aim directly into the center of the water in the toilet move?" I thought that was toilet training 101 for young girls.

[dewilson58]

200 posts.


I think we have this covered.


:faint:

[coffeebean]

I just went back and reread the OP...... I'll be damned if I see an agenda. I also didn't see single use or lock in the first 4 posts. Then it started to go down hill. :popcorn:

I think this thread is a hoot. I'm having so much fun and lots of laughs!