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Guest
07-13-2010, 11:18 AM
...that there has been no talk, here at political, about the mosque at ground zero. I personally think it is an atrocity.

Guest
07-13-2010, 02:10 PM
...that there has been no talk, here at political, about the mosque at ground zero. I personally think it is an atrocity.

I think that we are being overwhelmed with the number of outrageous attacks on our freedoms and liberties as I questioned in another thread. I agree it's an atrocity and to be expected, if you understand their motives. The muslim religion, along with some others believe that to show victory over your enemies, you must destroy what is sacred to them and replace it with a symbol of your beliefs, in this case, a mosque. There is great symbolism in getting a mosque built at that site.

Guest
07-13-2010, 04:48 PM
I think that we are being overwhelmed with the number of outrageous attacks on our freedoms and liberties as I questioned in another thread. I agree it's an atrocity and to be expected, if you understand their motives. The muslim religion, along with some others believe that to show victory over your enemies, you must destroy what is sacred to them and replace it with a symbol of your beliefs, in this case, a mosque. There is great symbolism in getting a mosque built at that site.

And do you think BH is involved in any way?

Guest
07-13-2010, 04:55 PM
Funny. The Muslims I knew and worked with in Boston didn't share those views. I suppose all Catholics support child rape because a few priests did it. I suppose all Christians advocate bombing any building with a woman's clinic in it because a few fundys have done it. I suppose all politicians are gay because of one Senator at the Minneapolis airport.

Guest
07-13-2010, 05:33 PM
And do you think BH is involved in any way?

possibly as an enabler???? Never directly.

Guest
07-13-2010, 06:24 PM
Funny. The Muslims I knew and worked with in Boston didn't share those views. I suppose all Catholics support child rape because a few priests did it. I suppose all Christians advocate bombing any building with a woman's clinic in it because a few fundys have done it. I suppose all politicians are gay because of one Senator at the Minneapolis airport.

I suppose you took it the way you did because I used the word 'religion'. Let me re-phrase somewhat. It was common practice among islaamic societies AND MANY OTHERS to remove things important or sacred to their enemies and to replace them with their own, to drive home the point of their victory. If you believe they want to build the mosque to honor the innocent people killed there, you are sadly mistaken. The point of the mosque is to celebrate the success of those who flew the planes into the WTC buildings. Even though they can't yet say that.

Guest
07-13-2010, 06:53 PM
I suppose you took it the way you did because I used the word 'religion'. Let me re-phrase somewhat. It was common practice among islaamic societies AND MANY OTHERS to remove things important or sacred to their enemies and to replace them with their own, to drive home the point of their victory. If you believe they want to build the mosque to honor the innocent people killed there, you are sadly mistaken. The point of the mosque is to celebrate the success of those who flew the planes into the WTC buildings. Even though they can't yet say that.

:agree:

Guest
07-13-2010, 07:56 PM
Okay, let me see if I get this right. CBS refused to air a commercial by the Republican opponents of the construction of an Islamic mosque and community center on Ground Zero because the commercial showed actually footage of the Islamic jihadist flying into the twin towers. It might be offensive to viewers.

But it isn't offensive to allow believers in Islam who declared war against us to build a religious symbol reflecting the beliefs of the muslims on the very sight. It would be easier for me to understand quantum physics than to understand this.

I mean really folks, not everyone in the Third Reich was bad. They weren't all Nazis and anyway not all Nazis were bad. Not every person in the German Army believed in the things Hitler was doing. Let's build a monument to the Third Reich in the middle of Auschwitz.

In the words of human-rights group Stop Islamicization of America. executive director Pamela Geller:

"What could be more insulting and humiliating than a monster mosque in the shadow of the World Trade Center buildings that were brought down by an Islamic jihad attack? Any decent American, Muslim or otherwise, wouldn't dream of such an insult. It's a stab in the eye of America."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mosque_madness_at_ground_zero_OQ34EB0MWS0lXuAnQau5 uL#ixzz0tc5v7Uof

Watch the commercial here.

http://politifi.com/news/Death-to-the-Mosque-The-Commercial-CBS-Refuses-to-Air-919637.html

Guest
07-14-2010, 07:02 AM
Have you heard about this one? It's just a learning center, right?


"MLEETA: As construction workers put the finishing touches on the doorframe in the lobby of this extravagant complex, a familiar voice can be heard booming from within. A child sits on his father’s lap among a row of chairs, a couple in front in the next row, all watching a large screen on the far wall. There, Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah is issuing his now famous riposte: 'If you hit our airports, we will hit your airports, if you hit our infrastructure, we will hit your infrastructure.'

"Inaugurated on May 25 to mark the 10th anniversary of Israel’s withdrawal from most of its south Lebanon 'occupation zone' in 2000, this multimillion-dollar 'resistance tourist center' in the hills of south Lebanon represents perhaps the first museum ever built to celebrate the victories of a war still ongoing.

"With this complex, in the small mountain town of Mleeta in the area Hizbullah first launched their campaign against Israeli bases, the group shows how the Lebanese Resistance drove Israeli forces from the south.

“ 'This is the real story, the one people come here to see,' says the tour guide Abou Hassan, as he shows the group a room filled with war booty from the 2006 conflict. The first wall features a chart with the names of every division in the Israeli Army from President Shimon Peres down to the lowest troops.


“ 'We’ve mapped every soldier out to show them we are watching and that we are ready for them,' warns Abou Hassan."



Read more here:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=116024#axzz0telNF4ot

Guest
07-14-2010, 07:26 AM
Last time I checked I haven't heard of any Catholics or Christians flying airplanes into buildings, beheading people, threatening to wipe out Israel, strapping bombs to their chests or driving cars filled with explosives into crowed civilian areas, etc, etc, etc. All the while certain "communities" in the US remain strangely silent... unless they want to build a mosque.

Guest
07-14-2010, 08:26 AM
stated "...I fear we have awakened the paper tiger...".

That was then.

Now the tiger has not only gone back to sleep, but to paper again and de-clawed and de-toothed to become a laughable (to our enemies and adversaries) permissive pacifist society with linguine spined special interest minority (not race) group, let's not offend anybody leadership....

WHILE THE MAJORITY JUST SITS BY AND CONTINUES TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.

No mystery here!

btk

Guest
07-14-2010, 09:24 AM
stated "...I fear we have awakened the paper tiger...".

That was then.

Now the tiger has not only gone back to sleep, but to paper again and de-clawed and de-toothed to become a laughable (to our enemies and adversaries) permissive pacifist society with linguine spined special interest minority (not race) group, let's not offend anybody leadership....

WHILE THE MAJORITY JUST SITS BY AND CONTINUES TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.

No mystery here!

btk
Sorry, BTK, but Admiral Yamamoto's statement was: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Let us pray that is the situation again and I believe it is. If we truly display our resolve in November, we have a chance to take out nation back. The past 50 years have been like the frog in the pot of water with the heat being slowly turned up. It's time to stop this nonsense and get back to being Americans - people who take care of themselves and eachother at the same time. It worked very well in the past and can again in the future. We must just regain our work ethic and stop being greedy little piglets at the nipple of big government.

Guest
07-15-2010, 10:28 PM
Funny. The Muslims I knew and worked with in Boston didn't share those views. I suppose all Catholics support child rape because a few priests did it. I suppose all Christians advocate bombing any building with a woman's clinic in it because a few fundys have done it. I suppose all politicians are gay because of one Senator at the Minneapolis airport.

As a practicing Catholic, I find your comments completely illogical.

Guest
07-15-2010, 11:03 PM
In case you didn't see it on network news or CNN or MSNBC

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2010/06/stop-the-mosque-at-ground-zero-part-ii/

Guest
07-15-2010, 11:04 PM
Had trouble with your link buddy.

Guest
07-16-2010, 11:05 AM
In case you didn't see it on network news or CNN or MSNBC

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2010/06/stop-the-mosque-at-ground-zero-part-ii/

INCREDIBLE!!!! This travesty cannot happen--not in my America!!!

Guest
07-16-2010, 04:45 PM
dklassen: No, the Catholic Church has much smaller scale racketeering going on to protect their child rapists. They gave up their killing a few hundred years ago. Since Christianity got a 900 year or so head start on Islam, perhaps it'll just take another 900 years before Islam is 'down' to 'only' raping kids.

Yes, this is a REAL hot button with me. Just because Christians aren't flying planes into buildings - oh, wait, one did last year (though it was a small plane) doesn't give them a pass.

Make no mistake - it's not Christianity or Islam that I have a problem with - it is the organized heirarchies that whip their troops up into a frenzy.

Guest
07-16-2010, 04:49 PM
As a practicing Catholic, I find your comments completely illogical.

20 radical Muslims committed the worst act of terror on American soil. Yet, no Muslim I have ever known would even THINK of such a thing.

It is estimated now that anywhere between 2% and 5% of all Catholic priests have sexually molested children. None that I dealt with in my life are among that crowd.

If you condemn all Islam for the actions of a few SELF DESCRIBED RADICALS who even want to wipe out members of different sects of their own faith, then one wonders why the same standard doesn't apply to Christians.

I mean, it's not like Christians would march in the street and throw firebombs or kill people in markets. Oh - wait - I forgot about Northern Ireland.

Guest
07-16-2010, 05:38 PM
20 radical Muslims committed the worst act of terror on American soil. Yet, no Muslim I have ever known would even THINK of such a thing.

It is estimated now that anywhere between 2% and 5% of all Catholic priests have sexually molested children. None that I dealt with in my life are among that crowd.

If you condemn all Islam for the actions of a few SELF DESCRIBED RADICALS who even want to wipe out members of different sects of their own faith, then one wonders why the same standard doesn't apply to Christians.

I mean, it's not like Christians would march in the street and throw firebombs or kill people in markets. Oh - wait - I forgot about Northern Ireland.

You mix Catholics and Christians as one in your anti religion rants and they are not exactly the same thing.

You may as well be correct in those you condemn !!

I actually find fault with anyone, yourself included, that would be so self indulged to condemn somebody's faith.

The referrals to Muslims in simply a reaction to the news stories heard every single day and the violence reports, NOT a condemnation of the religion. I might also suggest that you do some reading on the Muslim faith or at least sects, thereof, that DO IN FACT preach jihad....fact is they refer to it as DEFENSIVE JIHAD since the belief is that any non muslim in the mideast is an invader and thus must be destroyed...they also do not and will never recognize Israel.

All muslims are not bad for sure and did not read anyone say or imply that !

Guest
07-17-2010, 05:55 PM
Also keep in mind how many hundreds of years that so-called Christians had a 'jihad' out for Muslims.

And, yes, I know well that there's adifference between Catholic and Christian - since I was raised a Catholic. There are Christians out there who don't consider Catholics to be Christian, though Catholics (for the most part) consider themselves Christian.

Guest
07-17-2010, 06:04 PM
What does any of that have to do with the insensitivity of building the mosque near ground zero?

Guest
07-17-2010, 06:32 PM
Also keep in mind how many hundreds of years that so-called Christians had a 'jihad' out for Muslims.

And, yes, I know well that there's adifference between Catholic and Christian - since I was raised a Catholic. There are Christians out there who don't consider Catholics to be Christian, though Catholics (for the most part) consider themselves Christian.


I just dont understand how Catholics, or christians became the subject of this thread. If you read YOU are the one who brought them up and cant let go of that.

If your point was that there are bad in every religion, fine but the constant harrangue on a thread which originally had to do with a religious building being structred at the site of an attack on our country by folks who were doing so, whether the majority or not, in the name of their religion and that structure being built there being a structure OF that religion.

How does any of that relate to your comments on Catholics, not Methodists, not Mormons...just Catholics ?

Guest
07-22-2010, 08:24 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

Guest
07-22-2010, 08:34 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

Thank-you for posting the link. That was the video that inspired me to start this thread but I was a little gun shy to post it myself.


:BigApplause:

Guest
07-22-2010, 08:50 PM
Thank-you for posting the link. That was the video that inspired me to start this thread but I was a little gun shy to post it myself.


Isn't it sad to be "gun shy" about posting an opinion or facts out of fear of offending someone associated with terrorism. Not a reflection on you by any stretch. Just a reflection on how we have all allowed ourselves to be conditioned to accept the unacceptable, call wrong right and twist lies into half truths all in the name of not being offensive.

Thank you islandgal. I like you more and more everyday.

Guest
07-23-2010, 04:32 AM
Last time I checked I haven't heard of any Catholics or Christians flying airplanes into buildings, beheading people, threatening to wipe out Israel, strapping bombs to their chests or driving cars filled with explosives into crowed civilian areas, etc, etc, etc. All the while certain "communities" in the US remain strangely silent... unless they want to build a mosque.

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Guest
07-23-2010, 04:58 AM
I don't appreciate the degradation of Christians this way. We are responsible for just as many killings as Muslims and we should get the credit for it. We may never be matched for our killing of women and children at Hiroshima Japan. Don't sit there and take away our wonderful killing accomplishments. Lots of Christians were involved in the annihilation of 6 Million Jews in Europe. 6 million, lets see the Muslims beat that. :grumpy:Know your history before you condemn us Christians for falling short in the Killing game.

You are twisting history to satisfy your twisted opinions.

Guest
07-23-2010, 05:28 AM
You are twisting history to satisfy your twisted opinions.

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Guest
07-23-2010, 05:46 AM
That's right Lou Card. Good for you. As you are keeping score, make sure you give credit to the appropriate teams - good against evil.

Guest
07-23-2010, 05:58 AM
I believe both things I stated really happened. I also believe that in the short history of the United States that we are the most prolific killers in the world. I am not here to defend all the killings, just to demand our right to say we have killed more humans in the last several hundred years than anyone else. Go Christians. Were number one.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

If that is your attempt at humor, you have failed miserably. And on behalf of all my ancestors who have bravely died defending this great country.:cus::boxing2:

Guest
07-23-2010, 06:50 AM
but reported as having happened, therefore one of the conclusions COULD be as stated.

A big HOWEVER, to my knowledge, there wasn't and there isn't any directive like there is in some Muslim groups to "kill as many Americans as possible".

After the fact statistics can be used to justify almost any position. It is the intent that should be the driver of basis.

btk

Guest
07-23-2010, 08:27 AM
I agree with you billethkid except for the statement of the directive of some muslim groups to "kill as many Americans as possible".

The objective of some muslim groups, like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and others in these shiite sects, is to kill the non-muslim infidel regimes and apostates - not just Americans - in order to usher in the great battle of armageddon and the rule of allah.

Guest
07-23-2010, 09:31 AM
I believe both things I stated really happened. I also believe that in the short history of the United States that we are the most prolific killers in the world. I am not here to defend all the killings, just to demand our right to say we have killed more humans in the last several hundred years than anyone else. Go Christians. Were number one.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

I take back saying your opinions are twisted because they are sick and very much so.

Read the Coran and the Bible and you will see where the problem lies which you seriously fail to see.

I am again wondering about you. Maybe you don't believe the crap you put out Maybe you are just a disturber.

Guest
07-23-2010, 11:45 AM
If that is your attempt at humor, you have failed miserably. And on behalf of all my ancestors who have bravely died defending this great country.

Well, I served in the US Army for 22 years and spent my time in combat, I just did not die doing my part. Before you come down on the Muslims for killing Americans, remember our history. Christian nations are no less violent than any other religion. Christianity has a guy named Jesus Christ that popped up 2000 years ago and gave a Sermon O the Mount in hopes to start a better loving faith, but we took that ball and stayed in first place on the kill board. My point is we are no better and maybe worse than Radical Islam when it comes to killing. Lets get out of other peoples killing fields before we expect them to get out of ours. I would love to live with PEACE ON EARTH AND GOOD WILL TO MAN, but we need to look within as well as over the fence. If I was called on by my country, I would be in the middle east killing our enemy immediately.

:crap2:

Guest
07-23-2010, 03:53 PM
I don't appreciate the degradation of Christians this way. We are responsible for just as many killings as Muslims and we should get the credit for it. We may never be matched for our killing of women and children at Hiroshima Japan. Don't sit there and take away our wonderful killing accomplishments. Lots of Christians were involved in the annihilation of 6 Million Jews in Europe. 6 million, lets see the Muslims beat that. :grumpy:Know your history before you condemn us Christians for falling short in the Killing game.

Excuse my ignorance but could you tell me which Christians were involved with the killing of 6 million Jews? Just curious. Maybe I missed something.

Guest
07-23-2010, 04:09 PM
Excuse my ignorance but could you tell me which Christians were involved with the killing of 6 million Jews? Just curious. Maybe I missed something.

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Guest
07-23-2010, 04:39 PM
The Holocaust that happened in Europe around the time of the Second World War. Germany was made up of the following religions during the war:

Protestant 34%, Roman Catholic 34%, Muslim 3.7%, unaffiliated or other 28.3%

You still haven't told me which Christians did these things. Maybe it was the 28.3% unaffiliated or the "other"?

I have never met a Christian that would ever wantly kill another human being, except in war where it is kill or be killed against an armed enemy.

Guest
07-23-2010, 05:23 PM
If that is your attempt at humor, you have failed miserably. And on behalf of all my ancestors who have bravely died defending this great country.

Well, I served in the US Army for 22 years and spent my time in combat, I just did not die doing my part. Before you come down on the Muslims for killing Americans, remember our history. Christian nations are no less violent than any other religion. Christianity has a guy named Jesus Christ that popped up 2000 years ago and gave a Sermon O the Mount in hopes to start a better loving faith, but we took that ball and stayed in first place on the kill board. My point is we are no better and maybe worse than Radical Islam when it comes to killing. Lets get out of other peoples killing fields before we expect them to get out of ours. I would love to live with PEACE ON EARTH AND GOOD WILL TO MAN, but we need to look within as well as over the fence. If I was called on by my country, I would be in the middle east killing our enemy immediately.

:crap2:


Could you please clarify your motives here ?

I dont know whether your intent is to defend the Muslim's who preach killing and then do kill in the most hideous and public ways....OR to criticize this country..you know the one that has been sucked into wars for the most part to save other people from dying.

Just need to know which way you are going with this !!!

I am reallyconfused...I watch the videos of the public beheading of people who are murdered because they are NOT MUSLIM or ARE AMERICAN.

Guest
07-23-2010, 06:14 PM
Could you please clarify your motives here ?

I don't know whether your intent is to defend the Muslim's who preach killing and then do kill in the most hideous and public ways....OR to criticize this country..you know the one that has been sucked into wars for the most part to save other people from dying.

Just need to know which way you are going with this !!!

I am reallyconfused...I watch the videos of the public beheading of people who are murdered because they are NOT MUSLIM or ARE AMERICAN.

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Guest
07-23-2010, 06:54 PM
I love this country more than my life. I would destroy every enemy of the US without hesitation given the opportunity.

I am just saying that when it comes to killing Innocent civilians over the past 2000 years, Christians are in first place. Yes, Muslims seem to have more dedication to their cause than we do with their car booms and the like, and for that reason, we are very fortunate they do not have the weapons that we have or there would not be a Christian, Jew etc. left in the world. Muslims are raising money right here in the US for the purpose of helping them to finance our eventual death. Not to mention oil money and countries like IRAN. Because we are wealthy and far advanced in war fair, we have been able to kill in mass numbers over the past several hundred years helping to keep us safe. Yes the Muslims are on a path to kill us all and they will succeed if we do not get our head out of, well you get the idea. It sickens me to say and believe that but it is a fact. Americans have lost a lot of our tribal mentality that keeps us protected from the more homicidal members of the cave on the other side of the mountain. This is one area where Dick and George knew the real deal. Don't get me wrong, I still think Obama is the Man and he has my full support.

You were making real good sense until you wrote the last sentence.:ohdear:

Guest
07-23-2010, 06:58 PM
I love this country more than my life. I would destroy every enemy of the US without hesitation given the opportunity.

I am just saying that when it comes to killing Innocent civilians over the past 2000 years, Christians are in first place. Yes, Muslims seem to have more dedication to their cause than we do with their car booms and the like, and for that reason, we are very fortunate they do not have the weapons that we have or there would not be a Christian, Jew etc. left in the world. Muslims are raising money right here in the US for the purpose of helping them to finance our eventual death. Not to mention oil money and countries like IRAN. Because we are wealthy and far advanced in war fair, we have been able to kill in mass numbers over the past several hundred years helping to keep us safe. Yes the Muslims are on a path to kill us all and they will succeed if we do not get our head out of, well you get the idea. It sickens me to say and believe that but it is a fact. Americans have lost a lot of our tribal mentality that keeps us protected from the more homicidal members of the cave on the other side of the mountain. This is one area where Dick and George knew the real deal. Don't get me wrong, I still think Obama is the Man and he has my full support.

I am sorry...I still dont get your point or why you would bring up such a thing.

And, please....work on your choice of heros...."Obama is the Man",,how you could forgive all the lying he has done...how you could overlook his past (as the press did)..how you could overlook his outward hypocritical actions is well beyond me. He lied to a lot of folks who believed in what he said...I was not one of them but know many.

You should read about his background...oh, and for such a young man he has a number of biographies....you should read them also since he is "the man"....when you do both (check into his real background and read the conficts in his TWO biographies) perhaps you will come to a far different conclusion. He has you conned totall....sweet talking con man. PLEASE PLEASE read about his background, his training and his associates !!!

Guest
07-24-2010, 07:27 AM
I am sorry...I still dont get your point or why you would bring up such a thing.

And, please....work on your choice of heros...."Obama is the Man",,how you could forgive all the lying he has done...how you could overlook his past (as the press did)..how you could overlook his outward hypocritical actions is well beyond me. He lied to a lot of folks who believed in what he said...I was not one of them but know many. Politicians lying is the norm and Obama is less a hypocrite that so many others I let that go as status normal..

You should read about his background...oh, and for such a young man he has a number of biographies....you should read them also since he is "the man"....when you do both (check into his real background and read the conficts in his TWO biographies) perhaps you will come to a far different conclusion. He has you conned totall....sweet talking con man. PLEASE PLEASE read about his background, his training and his associates !!!Again, they all have those issues.

Obama has done so many good things, I can overlook a few discrepancies in his colorful past. No pun intended.
You will see great things in the country with 18 months that will change your vote from GOP to DEM

Guest
07-24-2010, 07:33 AM
I love this country more than my life. I would destroy every enemy of the US without hesitation given the opportunity.

I am just saying that when it comes to killing Innocent civilians over the past 2000 years, Christians are in first place. Yes, Muslims seem to have more dedication to their cause than we do with their car booms and the like, and for that reason, we are very fortunate they do not have the weapons that we have or there would not be a Christian, Jew etc. left in the world. Muslims are raising money right here in the US for the purpose of helping them to finance our eventual death. Not to mention oil money and countries like IRAN. Because we are wealthy and far advanced in war fair, we have been able to kill in mass numbers over the past several hundred years helping to keep us safe. Yes the Muslims are on a path to kill us all and they will succeed if we do not get our head out of, well you get the idea. It sickens me to say and believe that but it is a fact. Americans have lost a lot of our tribal mentality that keeps us protected from the more homicidal members of the cave on the other side of the mountain. This is one area where Dick and George knew the real deal. Don't get me wrong, I still think Obama is the Man and he has my full support.

When are you going to tell us why you support Obama and what he has done to help you and most Americans?

Do you have a special connection to the future that no one else has? Are you saying Because of your ability to see the future you are so much smarter than the rest of us? Or have you read all the thousands of pages in Obama's new laws and figured out that in 18 months we will all be better off? Do you mean you still are HOPIE AND CHANGIE ?

Guest
07-24-2010, 07:37 AM
Again, they all have those issues.

Obama has done so many good things, I can overlook a few discrepancies in his colorful past. No pun intended.
You will see great things in the country with 18 months that will change your vote from GOP to DEM


1. PLEASE PLEASE tell me the great things he has done..PLEASE

2. I NEVER vote party thus your last statement is not applicable. A straight party vote is a wasted vote !

BUT PLEASE LIST ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT OBAMA HAS DONE !!! This is one list I must see

Guest
07-24-2010, 07:43 AM
Again, they all have those issues.

Obama has done so many good things, I can overlook a few discrepancies in his colorful past. No pun intended.
You will see great things in the country with 18 months that will change your vote from GOP to DEM

Yes, old wise one, tell us of all great deeds and accomplishments you see in your crystal ball that the Anointed One will perform to amaze and amuse us all.

Guest
07-24-2010, 07:44 AM
1. PLEASE PLEASE tell me the great things he has done..PLEASE

2. I NEVER vote party thus your last statement is not applicable. A straight party vote is a wasted vote !

BUT PLEASE LIST ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT OBAMA HAS DONE !!! This is one list I must see


Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act
Signed: Monday, May 17, 2010
Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010
Signed: Friday, April 23, 2010
Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010
Signed: Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Signed: Tuesday, March 23, 2010
Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment (HIRE) Act
Signed: Thursday, March 18, 2010
Emergency Aid to American Survivors of the Haiti Earthquake Act
Signed: Wednesday, January 27, 2010
2009 Tax Breaks for Haiti Donations
Signed: Friday, January 22, 2010
Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009
Signed: Friday, October 30, 2009
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010
Signed: Wednesday, October 28, 2009
Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
Signed: Thursday, October 22, 2009
Cash For Clunkers Extension
Signed: Thursday, August 6, 2009
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Signed: Monday, June 22, 2009

Guest
07-24-2010, 08:01 AM
I'm outta here - have the shakes
:shrug:

Guest
07-24-2010, 08:34 AM
Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act
Signed: Monday, May 17, 2010
Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010
Signed: Friday, April 23, 2010
Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010
Signed: Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Signed: Tuesday, March 23, 2010
Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment (HIRE) Act
Signed: Thursday, March 18, 2010
Emergency Aid to American Survivors of the Haiti Earthquake Act
Signed: Wednesday, January 27, 2010
2009 Tax Breaks for Haiti Donations
Signed: Friday, January 22, 2010
Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009
Signed: Friday, October 30, 2009
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010
Signed: Wednesday, October 28, 2009
Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
Signed: Thursday, October 22, 2009
Cash For Clunkers Extension
Signed: Thursday, August 6, 2009
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Signed: Monday, June 22, 2009

I don't even know what to say to you on this. I don't know where you copied this list from, but if you do any reading whatsoever...any real thinking about the problems facing this country both domestically and internationally, then you would be embarassed to post this. So much of this list was passed overwhelmingly and would have passed without this President even being on the planet.

You underestimate what a President means to this country. You obviously have been told to follow him and you are, but you really should get out and read about what is REALLY happening.

One poster said she was leaving with the shakes...I am not strong enough to leave :)...I started to respond about each item but realized the inane reasoning, and hope someday you will learn by reading and learning what is really happening in this world.

When I saw your list the first thing on there was the Daniel Pearl act, one of those that was passed overwhelmingly, perhaps unanimously...but what I remember is the criticism of this President who at the signing never even mentioned WHO killed him or HOW (PUBLIC BEHEADING).

Guest
07-24-2010, 08:51 AM
Not only did Obama fail to mention the murder and beheading of Pearl, at the end of the signing of the Freedom of Press Act, Obama refused to take questions from the press. How freaking crazy is that???

When asked if he'd take a couple of questions, Obama said, "You’re certainly free to ask the question. I won’t be answering, I’m not doing a press conference today, but we’ll be seeing you in the course of the week.”

I thought we'd already passed the freedom of the press act anyway in that pesky little thing called the First Amendment?

Guest
07-24-2010, 08:58 AM
The second one on the list, the Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010. That's a good one. Glenn Beck is doing a fundraiser for the sponsors of this bill, The Wounded Warrior Project, on August 28. And Bill OReilly gives every penny of proceeds from his website purchases to this project. Oh by the way, the NAACP is protesting Beck's fundraiser and twisting the truth about the entire Restoring Honor project. Isn't it ironic??

Guest
07-24-2010, 09:16 AM
Spend, spend and more spending



http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWE4ZWJjYjEzMTM4ZGY4M2IyZWU1NDhkMjhlMzQ3MjI=

Guest
07-24-2010, 10:51 AM
I don't even know what to say to you on this. I don't know where you copied this list from, but if you do any reading whatsoever...any real thinking about the problems facing this country both domestically and internationally, then you would be embarassed to post this. So much of this list was passed overwhelmingly and would have passed without this President even being on the planet.

You underestimate what a President means to this country. You obviously have been told to follow him and you are, but you really should get out and read about what is REALLY happening.

One poster said she was leaving with the shakes...I am not strong enough to leave :)...I started to respond about each item but realized the inane reasoning, and hope someday you will learn by reading and learning what is really happening in this world.

When I saw your list the first thing on there was the Daniel Pearl act, one of those that was passed overwhelmingly, perhaps unanimously...but what I remember is the criticism of this President who at the signing never even mentioned WHO killed him or HOW (PUBLIC BEHEADING).

This whole list and you have nothing favorable to say about any of them. Shame on you. I guess if it does not put more money in your bank account it is not a good cause. With all the negativity on this site, I am sure you will be happy to find that I will not be commenting on existing posts, but only posting original strings myself in an attempt to let other free thinking people know they are not alone on this site. So many of the posters on this site seem to be negative, hateful and the majority constantly talk about MY MONEY. Taxes are collected to benifit all americans and just for repaving the road in front of your home. I would rather live poor helping others than rich and selfish.

Guest
07-24-2010, 11:20 AM
Ah, quit your whining. Also, you are poorer then you think. The national debt is equal to over $600,000 for every family in the USA. Most of our debt can be traced back to you liberal democrats.
So, your great grandchildren will get your wish to live poor.

Guest
07-24-2010, 03:32 PM
This whole list and you have nothing favorable to say about any of them. Shame on you. I guess if it does not put more money in your bank account it is not a good cause. With all the negativity on this site, I am sure you will be happy to find that I will not be commenting on existing posts, but only posting original strings myself in an attempt to let other free thinking people know they are not alone on this site. So many of the posters on this site seem to be negative, hateful and the majority constantly talk about MY MONEY. Taxes are collected to benifit all americans and just for repaving the road in front of your home. I would rather live poor helping others than rich and selfish.


You may take your elitist attitude ("shame on you")...you have quite an inflated view of yourself, and you have every right to post what you want, HOWEVER...THUS FAR you have posted on not ONE SINGLE ISSUE...simply hate messages at folks who dont agree with you.

If you post on ISSUES, AND NOT SIMPLY THE HATE OF THOSE WHO DONT AGREE WITH YOU, you may find out how...well, lets just say that thus far your posts indicate you are very uninformed !

Guest
07-24-2010, 05:44 PM
When you can't handle the facts, tell Lou Card that he is "uninformed"...
On an earlier thread, you can have your own opinion but NOT your own facts...So sorry LouCard, this thread is not heard by the silent MAJORITY!!!!, just six or seven Radicals over and over and over and over again....Ugh!