View Full Version : Is this really a gated community?
jswirs
02-28-2020, 11:59 AM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
manaboutown
02-28-2020, 12:11 PM
I think you nailed it.
EdFNJ
02-28-2020, 12:11 PM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
AFAIK they don't and they def aren't. Where did you see The Villages advertised as a true "gated community?" The gates are mostly only for traffic control and to allow golf carts a running chance for a free 3 seconds to cross but not for security.
Marathon Man
02-28-2020, 12:13 PM
Use the search function. Enter "gates" and choose titles only. Lots of discussion on this topic.
retiredguy123
02-28-2020, 12:15 PM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
Where and when did The Villages call themselves a gated community? I think that would be false advertising. Can you cite a source for the information?
EdFNJ
02-28-2020, 12:16 PM
Use the search function. Enter "gates" and choose titles only. Lots of discussion on this topic. Why would anyone want to do that as it would eliminate 50 Costco, Trader Joes and dog poop threads! :1rotfl:
biker1
02-28-2020, 12:17 PM
I have never seen any material from The Villages that claims this is a "gated community". It is a community with gates but the roads are all county roads with the exception of the roads in the CYVs. In a true "gated community", the roads are owned and maintained by the community, not the county. The gates in The Villages are primarily for traffic flow control where the MMPs cross in front of the entrances to the various Villages. Without the gates, golf carts would be in jeopardy.
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
NotGolfer
02-28-2020, 12:31 PM
PLUS could you all see how many more accidents we would have??? The gates AND the round abouts are for traffic control. IF you want a true gated community perhaps a Dell Webb or similar would be perfect for you! Mostly the folks "manning" the gates are they to give directions or information (that's why the "visitor's" lane). There is a purpose despite many not seeming to see it.
retiredguy123
02-28-2020, 12:36 PM
PLUS could you all see how many more accidents we would have??? The gates AND the round abouts are for traffic control. IF you want a true gated community perhaps a Dell Webb or similar would be perfect for you! Mostly the folks "manning" the gates are they to give directions or information (that's why the "visitor's" lane. There is a purpose despite many not seeming to see it.
I wouldn't call the Del Webb community on Rt 441 a true gated community either. They have a restaurant that is open to the public, and anyone can just drive up to the gate and say they are going to the restaurant. Same situation at Stonecrest.
asianthree
02-28-2020, 03:20 PM
Without the gates, golf carts would be in the frogger game. You wouldn’t get 3 lives.
jswirs
02-28-2020, 03:33 PM
I did not say TV is a "true" gated community...please re-read my post. This is a oxymoron, since TV is a community with gates, but it is not a gated community.
Velvet
02-28-2020, 03:36 PM
The answer is no, TV is not a gated community. As OP mentions, more than gates are needed for a “gated community”.
vintageogauge
02-28-2020, 04:45 PM
I did not say TV is a "true" gated community...please re-read my post. This is a oxymoron, since TV is a community with gates, but it is not a gated community.
You stated that they call it "a gated community"
vintageogauge
02-28-2020, 04:50 PM
My son lives in a true gated community, although it is not in a high or even medium crime area it has 24 hour "armed" security at the entrance. There are two lanes leading up to one gate, the owners have a remote, guests have to talk with security to get it. It is meaningless, you can say you are there for an open house or to look at the exterior of a home for sale, going to pick up a set of clubs, meeting for golf, or just say your visiting a son or parent and they let you in. A true criminal will get in wherever they want, be it here or there.
biker1
02-28-2020, 05:06 PM
What you describe is not the way all gated communities work. With many gated communities, you are not going to talk your way in. I have lived in one such community and unless your name was on a list or the guard contacted the resident, you were not getting in through the front gate. This does not mean you could not find a place to climb over the walls.
My son lives in a true gated community, although it is not in a high or even medium crime area it has 24 hour "armed" security at the entrance. There are two lanes leading up to one gate, the owners have a remote, guests have to talk with security to get it. It is meaningless, you can say you are there for an open house or to look at the exterior of a home for sale, going to pick up a set of clubs, meeting for golf, or just say your visiting a son or parent and they let you in. A true criminal will get in wherever they want, be it here or there.
ColdNoMore
02-28-2020, 05:33 PM
What you describe is not the way all gated communities work. With many gated communities, you are not going to talk your way in. I have lived in one such community and unless your name was on a list or the guard contacted the resident, you were not getting in through the front gate. This does not mean you could not find a place to climb over the walls.
Yep.
My last home was in a truly gated, golf course community...and that's pretty much the way it worked. It was actually a bit of overkill...in my honest opinion.
If the name(s) weren't already on your list (you kept up with it online), the guard would call the homeowner. If the homeowner didn't answer...tough luck.
Or if you said you were golfing, they would call the clubhouse to verify your tee time.
We had one particular guard that thought she was Hitler and the visitor line early every morning, from yard crews/house crews/Etc...was beyond ridiculous. :oops:
My yard guy and housekeeper said the guards verified identification information from every single person in the vehicle and this one...seemed to enjoy taking her time doing it.
I probably wouldn't have put up with it myself...regardless of how much I was getting paid.
OrangeBlossomBaby
02-28-2020, 07:39 PM
... The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is.
...it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
I did not say TV is a "true" gated community...please re-read my post. This is a oxymoron, since TV is a community with gates, but it is not a gated community.
The Villages does not call itself a gated community. Once you get that part straight, the rest of your concern no longer exists - whether a 'true" gated community or otherwise.
manaboutown
02-28-2020, 08:58 PM
May it could be described as a "stop gate" community; you know, like "stop sign" and "stop light".
Velvet
02-28-2020, 09:30 PM
May it could be described as a "stop gate" community; you know, like "stop sign" and "stop light".
:1rotfl: exactly!
bonrich
02-28-2020, 09:34 PM
This is not a gated community, but a community with gates.
Chatbrat
02-28-2020, 11:53 PM
No, its a community that uses gates as traffic control devices--can't fathom the reason for having manned gates helter/skelter,IMHO do away with the manned gates--one of the bushiest gates in TV ,St. Charles & Buena Vista is unmanned, the same goes for the gate @ Pinellas Pl & 466a
jswirs
02-29-2020, 05:50 AM
Yes, I stated a gated community, not a "True" gated community. I omitted the word "True" in my post. Please read again.
finbackwail
02-29-2020, 06:18 AM
Has to do with sales, of course. Gated community permits higher real estate value and enables small discount on home owners insurance. Nothing but a sales tool.
tsmall22204
02-29-2020, 06:33 AM
The Villages is not a gated community, it is a deeded community. Gates are there to control traffic.
Kay5301
02-29-2020, 07:16 AM
When I first visited a friend here back in 2005 off of Morse, we had to stop at the gate to her Village give our name which was on a list and wait for the guard to call her to confirm we were allowed to visit before he would open the gate for us to enter. Therefore at least part if not all of TV was a gated community at some point.
TomPerry
02-29-2020, 07:21 AM
OP stated “... The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is.“ This is not true! The Villages have NEVER called themselves a gated community!
biker1
02-29-2020, 07:21 AM
While you might have spoken to someone over the intercom at the gate (which are all pretty much gone now), if the roads were county roads then they cannot deny you access.
When I first visited a friend here back in 2005 off of Morse, we had to stop at the gate to her Village give our name which was on a list and wait for the guard to call her to confirm we were allowed to visit before he would open the gate for us to enter. Therefore at least part if not all of TV was a gated community at some point.
ColdNoMore
02-29-2020, 07:23 AM
When I first visited a friend here back in 2005 off of Morse, we had to stop at the gate to her Village give our name which was on a list and wait for the guard to call her to confirm we were allowed to visit before he would open the gate for us to enter. Therefore at least part if not all of TV was a gated community at some point.
Probably when the roads were still private and before being sold to the county?
Neighbors who have been here for over 15 years, have told me that the original plan was to make each village a truly gated community, but when the infrastructure was sold to the county and thus became public...this was no longer legal.
Which makes sense, because who could imagine a gate on say 466...that you had to be a resident to use? :shrug:
wirenail444
02-29-2020, 07:52 AM
Your are correct, it is not a true gated community. The roads are maintained by the county and access can not be denied. However, a picture is taken of every car that goes thru a gate and if there is a problem, the bad guy's car is available to the police. Next best thing and the bad guys know it.
Tmcbryan
02-29-2020, 08:01 AM
TV is a community with gates, not a gated community. The roads are owned maintained by the county, therefore driving on the roads is a public right.
jonathanb
02-29-2020, 08:04 AM
This is not a gated community. I was a sales rep here for almost 10 years and never sold it as gated. Anyone can drive around. The gates are used for information, slowing traffic down for golf cars and a possible deterrent.
Buckeyes76
02-29-2020, 08:14 AM
4 or 5 4” speed bumps would do the same at a much lower cost
billethkid
02-29-2020, 08:16 AM
Most homes in TV are accessible from multiple points either by golf cart or local roads/streets.
The only place I have ever heard the question about being gated is here on TOTV.
Perhaps, for some, a self ascribed status.
msilagy
02-29-2020, 08:18 AM
Theres cameras at many gates and it gives the illusion of being gated. People manning the gates can keep an eye on what is going in and out. I had a visitor that called me and asked how she gets thru the gates on DelMar. That says it all.
dewilson58
02-29-2020, 08:23 AM
4 or 5 4” speed bumps would do the same at a much lower cost
nope.
not enough break between cars
can't get my bugatti home
:ho:
graciegirl
02-29-2020, 08:30 AM
This is not a gated community. I was a sales rep here for almost 10 years and never sold it as gated. Anyone can drive around. The gates are used for information, slowing traffic down for golf cars and a possible deterrent.
Welcome new poster. Keep up the good work.
raney3099
02-29-2020, 08:31 AM
The Villages is a city, not a gated community.
dewilson58
02-29-2020, 08:32 AM
The Villages is a city,.
:ohdear:
Pdesensi
02-29-2020, 08:34 AM
Gates are there mostly for traffic flow
Cheche1
02-29-2020, 08:41 AM
It is good the folks at the gates have jobs but all a waste of money. Gates,shacks,buttons etc. Anyonecand everyone can get into the Villages. They do have good Community patrol but they could give the gate keepers jobs elsewhere and save alit of money for other things.
karostay
02-29-2020, 08:58 AM
2 speed bumps 50 ' apart at each gate would be more effective..As it stands now when gate are rises most think their at a NHRA race
PugMom
02-29-2020, 09:00 AM
PLUS could you all see how many more accidents we would have??? The gates AND the round abouts are for traffic control. IF you want a true gated community perhaps a Dell Webb or similar would be perfect for you! Mostly the folks "manning" the gates are they to give directions or information (that's why the "visitor's" lane). There is a purpose despite many not seeming to see it.not only that, the attendant keeps cars from merging into each other as you pass thru the gates. i have no problems with them being there. another thing--the gates, (as i was told by realtor), cause the cars to slow down so the camera can photo ur license plate, & keep track for future reference. i've also noticed a 2nd camera was placed @ our entry gate, attached to a pole above. you cant see it unless you look for it, but it's there.
chriskean82
02-29-2020, 09:02 AM
No only is every car videoed and the license plate recorded. When you stop to swipe card, or press button a photo of the driver is taken. The gates are also there to regulate cart flow at crossings and major roads.
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:04 AM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
You’re house didn’t cost enough, they do have gated and secure areas, but not in the peon areas. You get the vision of security.
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:06 AM
2 speed bumps 50 ' apart at each gate would be more effective..As it stands now when gate are rises most think their at a NHRA race
Yes, I can cut .020 light and get the feel of the front end coming off the ground.
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:08 AM
The Villages is a city, not a gated community.
Incorporated city.
willbush
02-29-2020, 09:08 AM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
It's the impression that it's a gated community that keeps is safer;also believe the gates themselves with or without personnel offers a sense of security for those who don't realize this isn't a gated community;likewise the community watch another layer of indirect security although not a police force;appears these things are working; The Villages was rated by the FBI as the safest place to live in Florida. Link follows the list.
ccording to the FBI
Metropolitan Statistical Area Crimes Per 100,000 Inhabitants
1. The Villages, FL M.S.A. 2,116
2. Punta Gorda, FL M.S.A. 2,648
3. Naples-Marco Island, FL M.S.A. 2,703
4. Port St. Lucie, FL M.S.A. 3,246
5. Homosassa Springs, FL M.S.A. 3,350
6. Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL M.S.A. 3,414
7. Sebastian-Vero Beach, FL M.S.A. 3,480
8. Lakeland-Winter Haven, FL M.S.A. 4,123
9. North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, FL M.S.A. 4,315
10. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL M.S.A. 4,323
11. Crestview-Fort Walton Beach-Destin, FL M.S.A. 4,509
12. Ocala, FL M.S.A. 4,980
13. Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL M.S.A. 5,027
14. Deltona-Daytona Beach-Ormond Beach, FL M.S.A. 5,125
15. Sebring-Avon Park, FL M.S.A. 5,236
16. Pensacola-Ferry Pass-Brent, FL M.S.A. 5,444
17. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL M.S.A. 5,791
18. Jacksonville, FL M.S.A. 6,147
19. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL M.S.A. 6,418
20. Gainesville, FL M.S.A. 6,917
21. Panama City, FL M.S.A. 7,257
22. Tallahassee, FL M.S.A. 7,733
here's the link. Copy & paste is browser: Safest Places to Live and Retire in Florida | FloridaforBoomers.com (https://www.floridaforboomers.com/safest-places-florida/)
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:08 AM
4 or 5 4” speed bumps would do the same at a much lower cost
With stop sign 🛑
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:11 AM
nope.
not enough break between cars
can't get my bugatti home
:ho:
Then you didn’t buy enough home:faint:
Marathon Man
02-29-2020, 09:11 AM
Has to do with sales, of course. Gated community permits higher real estate value and enables small discount on home owners insurance. Nothing but a sales tool.
Gates exist to help prevent collisions of golf carts and cars. And they do that very well.
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:13 AM
Yep.
My last home was in a truly gated, golf course community...and that's pretty much the way it worked. It was actually a bit of overkill...in my honest opinion.
If the name(s) weren't already on your list (you kept up with it online), the guard would call the homeowner. If the homeowner didn't answer...tough luck.
Or if you said you were golfing, they would call the clubhouse to verify your tee time.
We had one particular guard that thought she was Hitler and the visitor line early every morning, from yard crews/house crews/Etc...was beyond ridiculous. :oops:
My yard guy and housekeeper said the guards verified identification information from every single person in the vehicle and this one...seemed to enjoy taking her time doing it.
I probably wouldn't have put up with it myself...regardless of how much I was getting paid.
Here you’re just another peon among the minions. :1rotfl:
Topspinmo
02-29-2020, 09:15 AM
May it could be described as a "stop gate" community; you know, like "stop sign" and "stop light".
You mean some people actually stop at stop 🛑 signs? WOW haven’t seen that yet. :)
CTFORSBERG
02-29-2020, 09:29 AM
AFAIK they don't and they def aren't. Where did you see The Villages advertised as a true "gated community?" The gates are mostly only for traffic control and to allow golf carts a running chance for a free 3 seconds to cross but not for security.
That's exactly right, plus they cannot be truly gated as, in most cases, all the roads are public roads not private. It's for golf cart control (and to help sales) :icon_wink:
waynehal55
02-29-2020, 09:32 AM
I wouldn't call the Del Webb community on Rt 441 a true gated community either. They have a restaurant that is open to the public, and anyone can just drive up to the gate and say they are going to the restaurant. Same situation at Stonecrest.
This is true but, you have to stop at the gate and speak to an attendant before the gate arm is raised. Also a picture is taken of the car and license plate. If you plan on going to someone's home, the owner MUST either call before the arrival or enter the information into an updated computer system. This applies to all businesses - if not done they will be denied entrance. This also applies to the back gate.
Shamp
02-29-2020, 10:39 AM
It would be nice if we had stickers that automatically opened the gates. Then we could give guests the cards!
ColdNoMore
02-29-2020, 10:44 AM
Here you’re just another peon among the minions. :1rotfl:
I have absolutely no problem being..."another peon among the minions."
In fact...I quite enjoy it. :D
I long ago, made my mark professionally in my industry...so I have nothing to prove these days. :ho:
Waimola
02-29-2020, 10:47 AM
Stonecrest requires a license to get through the gate.
golfing eagles
02-29-2020, 10:49 AM
I have absolutely no problem being..."another peon among the minions."
In fact...I quite enjoy it. :D
I long ago, made my mark professionally in my industry...so I have nothing to prove these days. :ho:
Laxative tester????
Horse inseminator????
Dog dewormer???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Actually it's a quote stolen from "Two and a half men"
erojohn
02-29-2020, 11:34 AM
It just to slow traffic down and allowing Carts to cross. Talk about slowing down. Many treat round abouts as a race track. Some go 55 mph on Morse and BV. Slow down people we’re retired.
KLBNJ
02-29-2020, 12:33 PM
You have it all right. Well stated and correct. The gates are not necessary along with the guards. Both serve no purpose.
OhioBuckeye
02-29-2020, 12:43 PM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
Surprised nobody mentioned that the roads in TV are maintained by the county so TV can't tell anybody not to come in, their public roads & streets. The gate guards are their in hopes of if anybody comes in that they could remember things if something happened. Also a lot of younger people from Leesburg & Wildwood come here & some of the gate guards will take notice of that in case something get vandalized or robbed. Yea, it doesn't seem right but public streets mean just that, PUBLIC. I know someone will want to correct me on this, but some people really think our gates aren't worth the trouble. You could just call the front office & they probably could explain it to you in just about 5 mins.
TerryElzin
02-29-2020, 12:44 PM
I came from a so called gated community in MD. We had guards, we had stickers on our cars and we still had a lot of problems with people complaining about this same issue. If criminals want to get in they will. They do not have to go thru the gate to get to your home.
golfing eagles
02-29-2020, 12:49 PM
I came from a so called gated community in MD. We had guards, we had stickers on our cars and we still had a lot of problems with people complaining about this same issue. If criminals want to get in they will. They do not have to go thru the gate to get to your home.
True, but it doesn't have to be easy for them. Consider two houses next to each other. One has a monitored alarm system, cameras, dead bolts, a sign that say this home protected by Smith and Wesson and a large rottweiler inside. The other has unlocked doors and 4 newspapers laying in the driveway. Which one do you think the criminal will target?
Barborv
02-29-2020, 01:22 PM
If you go 55places.com , The Villages it is advertised as a gated community. Everything everyone is saying I completely agree with. It would be nice if every residential area had a gate house with someone there. If not for anything, but as a deterrent. That's the only thing I wish TV had. The next best things, folks, is get yourself the blink cameras and ring doorbell and alarm for peace of mind. Yes, I'm a New Yorker! lol
asianthree
02-29-2020, 01:45 PM
If you plan on going to someone's home, the owner MUST either call before the arrival or enter the information into an updated computer system. This applies to all businesses - if not done they will be denied entrance. This also applies to the back gate.
No one needs to call ahead. When we come down from summer house, No one ever asks what we are doing. Our uhaul came in at 2am, pushed the button and opened gate. Since 07 I have never heard of access being denied.
asianthree
02-29-2020, 01:47 PM
You have it all right. Well stated and correct. The gates are not necessary along with the guards. Both serve no purpose.
Next time you cross a road in your golf cart, rethink your quote
Jdavie1955
02-29-2020, 02:15 PM
We are a community with gates, NOT a gated community. They do not advertise it as one.
OlifOlif
02-29-2020, 02:23 PM
A gated community's purpose is for keeping those inside as inside with outside honors, and those on the outside to stay away to remain where they should be.
Bogie Shooter
02-29-2020, 02:24 PM
If you go 55places.com , The Villages it is advertised as a gated community. Everything everyone is saying I completely agree with. It would be nice if every residential area had a gate house with someone there. If not for anything, but as a deterrent. That's the only thing I wish TV had. The next best things, folks, is get yourself the blink cameras and ring doorbell and alarm for peace of mind. Yes, I'm a New Yorker! lol
I went to 55places.com and didn't see where The Villages or any other community was doing any advertising.
The site gives advice and offers a place for reviews.
Carla B
02-29-2020, 04:10 PM
No one needs to call ahead. When we come down from summer house, No one ever asks what we are doing. Our uhaul came in at 2am, pushed the button and opened gate. Since 07 I have never heard of access being denied.
Waynehal was talking about the Del Webb community on 441 N., not The Villages.
perrjojo
02-29-2020, 04:30 PM
If you go 55places.com , The Villages it is advertised as a gated community. Everything everyone is saying I completely agree with. It would be nice if every residential area had a gate house with someone there. If not for anything, but as a deterrent. That's the only thing I wish TV had. The next best things, folks, is get yourself the blink cameras and ring doorbell and alarm for peace of mind. Yes, I'm a New Yorker! lol
We ARE a gated community.we are NOT a secure, gated community.
Steve Mosher
02-29-2020, 04:55 PM
We are a gated community, not a secure community. The difference being, since the roads revert to the county for maintenance after 2 years, the roads cannot be secured from the general public but we can monitor anyone coming & going thru the gates with cameras.
Bogie Shooter
02-29-2020, 06:31 PM
I have never seen any material from The Villages that claims this is a "gated community". It is a community with gates but the roads are all county roads with the exception of the roads in the CYVs. In a true "gated community", the roads are owned and maintained by the community, not the county. The gates in The Villages are primarily for traffic flow control where the MMPs cross in front of the entrances to the various Villages. Without the gates, golf carts would be in jeopardy.
While you might have spoken to someone over the intercom at the gate (which are all pretty much gone now), if the roads were county roads then they cannot deny you access.
Probably when the roads were still private and before being sold to the county?
Neighbors who have been here for over 15 years, have told me that the original plan was to make each village a truly gated community, but when the infrastructure was sold to the county and thus became public...this was no longer legal.
Which makes sense, because who could imagine a gate on say 466...that you had to be a resident to use? :shrug:
Your are correct, it is not a true gated community. The roads are maintained by the county and access can not be denied. However, a picture is taken of every car that goes thru a gate and if there is a problem, the bad guy's car is available to the police. Next best thing and the bad guys know it.
TV is a community with gates, not a gated community. The roads are owned maintained by the county, therefore driving on the roads is a public right.
Surprised nobody mentioned that the roads in TV are maintained by the county so TV can't tell anybody not to come in, their public roads & streets. The gate guards are their in hopes of if anybody comes in that they could remember things if something happened. Also a lot of younger people from Leesburg & Wildwood come here & some of the gate guards will take notice of that in case something get vandalized or robbed. Yea, it doesn't seem right but public streets mean just that, PUBLIC. I know someone will want to correct me on this, but some people really think our gates aren't worth the trouble. You could just call the front office & they probably could explain it to you in just about 5 mins.
Most times it pays to read the posts...……………………………
There are probably more but I quit after these five.
ColdNoMore
02-29-2020, 06:56 PM
Most times it pays to read the posts...……………………………
There are probably more but I quit after these five.
Quitter.
:D
daylilylady
02-29-2020, 06:57 PM
Been here 24 years. It has never been a gated community. An allusion. Most of the roads are county roads.
rabonkmontage@msn.com
02-29-2020, 07:04 PM
Then you didn’t buy enough home:faint:
Rude
ColdNoMore
02-29-2020, 07:12 PM
Rude.
You catch on quickly. :thumbup:
Polar Bear
02-29-2020, 07:48 PM
Been here 24 years. It has never been a gated community. An allusion. Most of the roads are county roads.
The Morris vs Morse thread comes to mind. :D
manaboutown
02-29-2020, 09:50 PM
The Morris vs Morse thread comes to mind. :D
Illusion vs. allusion? lol
Polar Bear
02-29-2020, 09:54 PM
Illusion vs. allusion? lol
:thumbup:
Westie Man
02-29-2020, 10:45 PM
True, but it doesn't have to be easy for them. Consider two houses next to each other. One has a monitored alarm system, cameras, dead bolts, a sign that say this home protected by Smith and Wesson and a large rottweiler inside. The other has unlocked doors and 4 newspapers laying in the driveway. Which one do you think the criminal will target?
The house with the sign probably has more worth stealing.
Dennys37Packard
02-29-2020, 11:23 PM
I was told and I agree, the gates are there to slow traffic coming into a Village or area. Most areas directly behind the gates have golf cart crossings. Without slowing down for them, we would see a lot more near misses or worse between carts and cars. I know in ours as we enter Springdale off the cart path, we look for the gate to be down to cross over to our side of the road. Just my opinion.
karostay
03-01-2020, 08:28 AM
You mean some people actually stop at stop 🛑 signs? WOW haven’t seen that yet. :)
Must be talking about cyclist
Cathy A Mitchell
03-01-2020, 11:38 AM
The Villages isn't a gated community, on the tour we took and several since it is stated as a "community with gates", which is what it really is.
dewilson58
03-01-2020, 12:49 PM
gat·ed com·mu·ni·ty
/ɡādid kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun
adjective: gated; noun: gated community; plural noun: gated communities
a residential area with roads that have gates to control the movement of traffic and people into and out of the area.
con·trol
/kənˈtrōl/
noun
noun: control
1.
the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.
So yes it is.
:ho:
yabbadu
03-01-2020, 12:53 PM
Hi folks, We have been here for 8 months now, and my comment / question is; The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is. However, anyone can come through the gates, either by pressing the red button in the residents lane or going through the visitor lane. A true gated community has resident stickers with bar codes on the vehicles which allows access. I understand that when the red button is pressed a picture of the vehicle is taken, don't know if that is really true, but that does not do much to add to security. Please don't misunderstand, I don't have a problem, it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
Where does The Villages call themselves a gated community???? Your second sentence!
Curtisbwp
03-01-2020, 09:28 PM
After liveing in TV since 2003 I have NEVER been told that we are a gated community. We are a CONTROLED ACCESS COMMUNITY. YOU should have understood that from the beginning.
John_W
03-01-2020, 09:54 PM
Stonecrest and Del Webb Spruce Creek call themselves gated communties, but I've driven to the gatehouse and said I'm going to the golf course and was let right in.
If you want to see a real gated community of homes in the $200K to $300K range. Drive about 75 minutes southwest of here to Spring Hill and to Timber Pines on US 19 or it's sister community 5 miles south, Heritage Pines on County Line Road. Tell the gate agent you want to go to the golf course, or to see a house for sale, or to visit someone, and they'll tell you, you can't come in. Unless you're with an approved Realtor or a resident has left your name on the guest list for that day, you don't get in.
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