View Full Version : Red Smart car - Lake Deaton plaza - Fri Eve
mgkw1
02-28-2020, 06:49 PM
You are a street vehicle, complete with registration and plates. Stay OFF the golf cart path. You may be the same size but you are not allowed. You would have been at fault as you were speeding around the corner if you hit someone out for a jog or on their way home from Publix in their golf cart.
coffeebean
02-28-2020, 07:15 PM
Aren't Smart Cars larger than golf carts? Smart Cars fit in the tunnels?
EdFNJ
02-28-2020, 08:54 PM
You are a street vehicle, complete with registration and plates. Stay OFF the golf cart path. You may be the same size but you are not allowed. You would have been at fault as you were speeding around the corner if you hit someone out for a jog or on their way home from Publix in their golf cart.
Are you actually talking about a SMART (brand) car or one of the Atomic Golf Carts that are street legal and sorta resemble a Smart (brand) car and have registration and FL plates and is an LSV which is LEGALLY and SPECIFICALLY permitted on the MMP's by the District Council and is posted as such on the VCDD website. They are sometimes confused to be a Smart (brand) car when it actually is a street legal golf cart AKA LSV which is why I have a sticker on mine. This link is ACTUALLY a Smart (brand) car which is NOT allowed: mini electric cars and micro urban cars | smart USA (https://www.smartusa.com/). I have seen the Smart (brand) cars once on the MMP going thru the LSL tunnel.
Please clarify. These are both examples of LEGAL cars on the paths and golf courses (when they have turf-tires):
EdFNJ
02-28-2020, 08:57 PM
Aren't Smart Cars larger than golf carts? Smart Cars fit in the tunnels? I have seen a Smart (brand) vehicle ILLEGALLY on the paths going through a tunnel at LSL without problem. :D They aren't that much larger than a golf cart and some of the YESTERYEAR or STREET ROD carts are actually larger however the 2 pictured above are permitted.
asianthree
02-28-2020, 11:54 PM
Smart car will fit in a golf cart garage with no problem. Our cart is a few inches longer, and about the same height
mgkw1
02-29-2020, 10:13 AM
I was on the road in my cat and this thing was passing me. Not quite golf cart speed
photo1902
02-29-2020, 11:17 AM
Is your cat street legal? :)
bigallis1
03-01-2020, 05:39 AM
Any vehicle with an active/registered license plate "IS NOT" permitted on golf cart paths......
jswirs
03-01-2020, 05:59 AM
Any vehicle with an active/registered license plate "IS NOT" permitted on golf cart paths......
Really? Because I have seen golf carts that have a Fl. plate and are street legal. These are not permitted on golf cart paths?
theruizs
03-01-2020, 07:01 AM
You are a street vehicle, complete with registration and plates. Stay OFF the golf cart path. You may be the same size but you are not allowed. You would have been at fault as you were speeding around the corner if you hit someone out for a jog or on their way home from Publix in their golf cart.
Smart cars (if it really is a smart car) are not allowed because of their engine size if gas (must 49cc or less), or the speed of their motor if electric (high speed motors not allowed). Being street legal with registration and plates has nothing to do with it. LSVs are street legal with registration and plates and are allowed on these paths.
theruizs
03-01-2020, 07:03 AM
Any vehicle with an active/registered license plate "IS NOT" permitted on golf cart paths......
That IS NOT true. LSVs are allowed.
theruizs
03-01-2020, 07:11 AM
I was on the road in my cat and this thing was passing me. Not quite golf cart speed
LSVs are allowed up to 25mph on the streets, but on the paths are supposed to obey the 20mph speed limit. But a LOT of regular golf carts have been illegally modified to go even faster than 25mph, so get used to being passed.:icon_wink:
ladybugsmom
03-01-2020, 07:35 AM
Wow, glad you posted this! Thanks.
TandHSTAR@AOL.com
03-01-2020, 07:37 AM
If you go through all the expense of getting Fl. Plates and the mandatory insurance why do you need to use the Multi Media paths. You are going too fast to make it safe for walkers and golf carts. You cannot stop or maneuver as fast when you are going 30 mph. The golf cart paths are not straight so you need to slow down around the many curves but instead you probably end up in the middle not knowing whats around the bend and God forbid there is a golf cart coming at you or a biker ir pedestrian. So here you are you can't move over because there is a golf cart next to you on their side if the road and I will let you guess what happens next.
toeser
03-01-2020, 08:00 AM
You are a street vehicle, complete with registration and plates. Stay OFF the golf cart path. You may be the same size but you are not allowed. You would have been at fault as you were speeding around the corner if you hit someone out for a jog or on their way home from Publix in their golf cart.
A few weeks ago, I met a full sized motorcycle (like a Harley) on a path near Hacienda.
juscause
03-01-2020, 08:29 AM
This is absolutely correct. There isn't much difference between going 20 mph and going 25 mph. If the street legal cart that can go 25 mph goes more than 20 mph on the paths, they are in violation of the speed limit and can be ticketed. Nonetheless, they are free to use the paths within the law. Don't post things as an "absolute" if you don't know the law.
nn0wheremann
03-01-2020, 09:04 AM
The county police have no jurisdiction on the MMPs because these are private property. The Community Development Districts lack police power, so they cannot enforce rules. I have seen snowbirds grinning ear to ear riding motorcycles on the MMP next to El Camino Real, right past Sumter sheriff’s deputy’s running radar. You could run wild with a Mack Truck on the MMP, but don’t leave a white cross in your flower bed!
Bogie Shooter
03-01-2020, 09:22 AM
This is absolutely correct. There isn't much difference between going 20 mph and going 25 mph. If the street legal cart that can go 25 mph goes more than 20 mph on the paths, they are in violation of the speed limit and can be ticketed. Nonetheless, they are free to use the paths within the law. Don't post things as an "absolute" if you don't know the law.
Where did you find the published speed limit of 20MPH on paths??
twoplanekid
03-01-2020, 10:06 AM
from the District web site -> PDF Viewer (https://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=%27/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)
in the above pdf " If the districts were to adopt rules for use of the multi-modal paths, such as speed limits, or types
of conveyance usage, then the method of enforcement would be an issue.Community Development Districts do not possess any law enforcement powers."
and -> Multi-Modal Path Information and Safety (https://www.districtgov.org/community/MultiModal.aspx)
dmarti1973
03-01-2020, 10:46 AM
Good heavens. Lighten up!
Bogie Shooter
03-01-2020, 12:04 PM
Good heavens. Lighten up!
:what:
BobnBev
03-02-2020, 05:16 PM
Sounds like many people don't know the difference between a "Golf cart path" and a "Multi Modal Path":boom:
VApeople
03-02-2020, 08:06 PM
If anyone does not like what is happening on the MMPs, then I suggest you drive a car and use the roads.
Paul1934
03-03-2020, 07:58 AM
Have seen some scary users on the paths, but just as dangerous are the pedestrians who use the designated cart/bike lanes on the roads and refuse to move out of way. Repeatedly had to stop due to cars passing and wait for the walkers to pass by.
427dave
03-03-2020, 03:49 PM
Smart cars (if it really is a smart car) are not allowed because of their engine size if gas (must 49cc or less), or the speed of their motor if electric (high speed motors not allowed). Being street legal with registration and plates has nothing to do with it. LSVs are street legal with registration and plates and are allowed on these paths.
That is an interesting statement as most golf car gas engines are 300-360 cc. You are thinking of mopeds/scooters if less than 49cc don't need a motorcycle endorsement to drive.
fleipy57
03-04-2020, 10:08 AM
I have an Atomic Car and obey the 20 mile per hour on the golf paths. It is not registered Street Legal. While driving on the golf cart paths I have been passed by many, many, golf carts going over the speed limit. Those drives actually tailgate you trying to push you faster. It is not just the newer style golf cars that are the issue. Golf cart owners are in violation too!!
VApeople
03-04-2020, 12:27 PM
Those drivers actually tailgate you trying to push you faster.
So what?
That happens on any road. Like all of us, you must have learned how to deal with it years ago.
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