Surgical Masks

[retiredguy123]

I saw a few people wearing surgical masks at Walmart today. And, I checked Amazon and they have no masks for sale with Prime delivery. So, a lot of people are buying them. The CDC and other briefings on television seem to be continually advising people that, only sick people and health care workers, should be using masks to prevent the spread of the Coronavirus. But, there are numerous health articles online that say masks can offer some protection to prevent healthy people from getting a virus. I am a skeptical person. It seems to me that, if you are travelling on an airplane, wearing a mask would provide some protection. At least, if you touch a surface with an active virus on it, having a mask on would remind you and prevent you from touching your mouth. I don't want to dispute the CDC, but I would feel safer wearing a mask on an airplane. Would anyone else?

[JSR22]

I would not feel any safer. I am not buying a mask.

[Two Bills]

For a mask to provide any protection it has to to have completee coverage of nose and mouth. No gaps.
The majority of masks being sold are no better than holding a handkerchief to your face, in fact not as good.

[dewilson58]

If we have a shortage of masks and the healthcare providers can't get them, we are in real trouble.

[Kenswing]

Just yesterday the hospital my wife works at was custom fitting hospital personnel with N-95 masks. Then again we're pretty much the current epicenter of the virus in the U.S. I'm guessing it might already be too late for a good number of nurses but it might provide some measure of protection from spreading it.

[thelegges]

Just yesterday the hospital my wife works at was custom fitting hospital personnel with N-95 masks. Then again we're pretty much the current epicenter of the virus in the U.S. I'm guessing it might already be too late for a good number of nurses but it might provide some measure of protection from spreading it.

That fitting is done yearly, medical people are exposed daily to whatever. One may not find out for a week or two, of the exposure.

[quilting3grammy]

They only remind you to stop touching your face and keep you from transferring germs by touching it. JetBlue sent me an email stating that they have brought in a doctor to advise them on how to keep the planes and the crew safer. They are increasing the cleaning and disinfecting of everything and on request will provide passengers with sanitizer and disinfecting wipes. Since this virus has more of an effect on older people you are bound to see more masks here, but unless they are sealed to their face they are useless. I've been trying to find hand sanitizer and wipes, but the stores are sold out as fast as they come in. I was given a recipe to make hand sanitizer that includes rubbing alcohol and aloe vera, and guess what? Yup those are empty spots on the store shelves as well. Washing your hands with soap is the best defense and do it often.

[dewilson58]

They only remind you to stop touching your face and keep you from transferring germs by touching it.




Not true.

[MOMOH]

I agree that health care workers NEED them...but stop trying to tell me that they will work for health care workers, but they won't work for me.

[rockandroller]

"having a mask on would remind you and prevent you from touching your mouth"

That seems to be the consensus.

[Drdoug49]

N95 respirator masks will offer some protection . You can go to YouTube and learn how how healthcare workers are trained to wear them properly. If they did not protect you, why would healthcare workers wear them??
I bought mine at the end of January This coronavirus is coming to America and it hits people over 65 very very hard

[dewilson58]

"having a mask on would remind you and prevent you from touching your mouth"

That seems to be the consensus.




consensus does not make fact..................check with CDC.


:ohdear:

[Ronlynch@comcast.net]

Plane travel: Carry disinfectant wipes and wipe down everything you might touch (seat pockets, tray tables, armrests, etc.). Have antiseptic hand lotion and use if after the wipe down. Offer them to your seat mate as well. If possible, stay out of the toilets; if not, use same procedure with wipes and lotion. Air is probably safe (at least the aircraft ventilation). Most are HEPA filtered and the air is bleed air from the engines. If someone sneezes / coughs, the particles can travel 6 ft. or more if not captured in a tissue or handkerchief. All airlines have implemented increased cleaning procedures but not completely thorough. Masks (even N-95 non custom) serve little purpose except with those already infected to help prevent spread. The primary mode of transmission is touching a contaminated surface and then your nose, mouth, eyes, etc.). The regular Flu this year is primarily an influenza B strain and is more potent than the more typical influenza A strain. Currently much more widespread than COVID 19 worldwide. Travel safe.

[Drdoug49]

Again if n95 masks don’t protect you, why is their a shortage for healthcare workers. They protect them if used properly and you can be trained to wear them properly like I have

[Bay Kid]

Over 18,000 have died in the US from the flu this year. The sky is falling.

[dewilson58]

Again if n95 masks don’t protect you, why is their a shortage for healthcare workers. They protect them if used properly and you can be trained to wear them properly like I have


:bigbow:

Exactly.


Most bozo's on the street don't.

[airstreamingypsy]

I bought two N95 masks, in case I get sick and have to go to a doctor or hospital.

[juscause]

Well. It seems obvious to me that if Amazon isn't carrying something, how can there be a need for it?

[Windguy]

They only remind you to stop touching your face and keep you from transferring germs by touching it. JetBlue sent me an email stating that they have brought in a doctor to advise them on how to keep the planes and the crew safer. They are increasing the cleaning and disinfecting of everything and on request will provide passengers with sanitizer and disinfecting wipes.

I bought Sonos wipes years ago because I was flying so much and getting colds when traveling. The wipes ended that. We also wipe down hotel rooms and cruise cabins. I also carry hand sanitizer when traveling.

The Sonos are great because, unlike most wipes, they kill viruses. I’ve heard that the tray tables are the most-important things to wipe down, but I clean everything I might touch. You need to let it dry for a few minutes for full effectiveness.

It’s not surprising that they are currently sold out, but here’s the link for Amazon:

SONO Travel Safe Medical Grade Disinfecting Wipes for Airplanes, Cruise Ships, Gyms, Schools, Offices, Kitchens, Bathrooms, Toilets, CPAP Masks and Machines, Vinyl Upholstery, Cell Phones (3 Pack) Robot Check (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WV94SJJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ItLyEbSJ4C4PR)

[theruizs]

The flu has already killed more people this year than the coronavirus. You are much better off keeping your hands clean. The mask won’t keep you from touching your eyes or when you are taking it off and putting it on. Health care workers wear them for two reasons, yes to minimize their chance of getting it due to the volume of sick people they may see, but more importantly not transfer it to all the people they see if they themselves get it (takes awhile for symptoms to show). Same reason surgeons wear them, to keep the patient safe. Minimize your contact with others if you’re really worried, and wash, wash, wash, your hands.

[Regor]

16,000 people have died from the flu this season, so far. Yet hardly anyone seems to be worried about the flu! Why? That is just in the U.S.

[MollyJo]

No, not flying & breathing all the germs in. Imagine being quarantined on the tarmac for 2 weeks? No. Thank. You. Lol.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

They only remind you to stop touching your face and keep you from transferring germs by touching it. JetBlue sent me an email stating that they have brought in a doctor to advise them on how to keep the planes and the crew safer. They are increasing the cleaning and disinfecting of everything and on request will provide passengers with sanitizer and disinfecting wipes. Since this virus has more of an effect on older people you are bound to see more masks here, but unless they are sealed to their face they are useless. I've been trying to find hand sanitizer and wipes, but the stores are sold out as fast as they come in. I was given a recipe to make hand sanitizer that includes rubbing alcohol and aloe vera, and guess what? Yup those are empty spots on the store shelves as well. Washing your hands with soap is the best defense and do it often.

You don't "have" to use aloe vera gel. The gel is just what you mix it with so that the alcohol isn't so drying to your skin. You can use pure rubbing alcohol; you'll just have shrivelled fingers (which you can then add moisturizer to).

Why don't you already have a bottle of rubbing alcohol in your house? I just assumed everyone had one in the bathroom cabinet.

[rmd2]

Yes I would want one on a plane.

[OhioBuckeye]

I saw a few people wearing surgical masks at Walmart today. And, I checked Amazon and they have no masks for sale with Prime delivery. So, a lot of people are buying them. The CDC and other briefings on television seem to be continually advising people that, only sick people and health care workers, should be using masks to prevent the spread of the Coronavirus. But, there are numerous health articles online that say masks can offer some protection to prevent healthy people from getting a virus. I am a skeptical person. It seems to me that, if you are travelling on an airplane, wearing a mask would provide some protection. At least, if you touch a surface with an active virus on it, having a mask on would remind you and prevent you from touching your mouth. I don't want to dispute the CDC, but I would feel safer wearing a mask on an airplane. Would anyone else?
I guess it's a matter of choice but I guess it would be a little protection. Me personally I don't want to look like I'm from China. It's just a little to much for me because you could get Coronavirus just touching products at the store or if someone sneezes & that person that sneezes is up wind from you, you could walk right into their infection 15 ft. away. You couldn't eat in restaurants because you would have to eat from their utensils, touch the bill to pay, touch the door to leave or come in. It's just a little to much for me to wear a mask. I would be so paranoid that I couldn't use my hands again. Me myself I just wash my hands all the time but I still could catch it. But if you don't mind wearing a mask where one but that really doesn't mean you couldn't catch the virus. But it would help some I guess!

[OhioBuckeye]

:bigbow:

Exactly.


Most bozo's on the street don't.

I'm one of those bozo's that don't. But if a person that has Coronovirus walks by you & somehow you catch the virus, you like me, wouldn't be name calling, I personally would be PO'd that I didn't wear a mask. I really think if you're going to catch the virus, you'll catch it even if you have the whole Coronavirus suit on, because all you have to do is have one little slip up!

[captdot]

I agree that health care workers NEED them...but stop trying to tell me that they will work for health care workers, but they won't work for me.

It's not that masks will work for one and not the other... There is a difference between the plain paper surgical mask and the N-95. The function of the paper mask would only be to remind YOU not to touch your face. Masks that the healthcare providers are being fitted for are "form-fitted" to your face and can filter viruses.

[Kenswing]

It's not that masks will work for one and not the other... There is a difference between the plain paper surgical mask and the N-95. The function of the paper mask would only be to remind YOU not to touch your face. Masks that the healthcare providers are being fitted for are "form-fitted" to your face and can filter viruses.
Yep.. Where my wife works all nurses are now wearing fitted N-95's and if they're treating a COVID-19 positive patient they have to wear a PAPR..

[DeanFL]

at the local coffee shop>

[dewilson58]

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[Alana33]

Just think about all the hundreds different things we touch every single day.

[Kenswing]

If you're cruising.. lol
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[thelegges]

N95 respirator masks will offer some protection . You can go to YouTube and learn how how healthcare workers are trained to wear them properly. If they did not protect you, why would healthcare workers wear them??
I bought mine at the end of January This coronavirus is coming to America and it hits people over 65 very very hard

In health care that mask is changed multiple times. TB is one reason it’s used, along with special gowns. Do they protect the medical staff, most of the time. But even if you are using mask correctly you change mask multiple times. It is a one and done. Why does medical personnel wear them, cause it’s mandatory.
Does it keep you safe, not all the time. For years most skipped the mask, and still live to tell. You will find medical personal don’t panic about such things.

[Two Bills]

As a kid I survived WW2 bombing of London, later, IRA bombings of London, mlitary service, Asian flu. Spanish flu, Flu flu, several broken bones, a dodgy parachute, most of the scares on Mr Helpful's post, all the 'Man Colds' nature has thrown at me, plus my Sainted Mothers cooking, yet 80+years later, I am still here!
But I must say that I get a bit paranoid sometimes, that something out there is trying to get me!

[Carlsondm]

Wear gloves if you want to reduce touching your face or eyes. You will notice if you do. Also, scrub like a nurse if you are safety oriented. Scrub and wash hair if it is long or swings in your face. The best thing you can do is stay healthy and strong and minimize transfer of the virus. Fly when you are healthy and stay hydrated. N95 masks need to be properly fitted to be effective and they are ridiculously expensive for a disposable. Let the pros and well trained overexposed folks use them. You can use many other means to stay healthy. Good luck!

[Velvet]

Hmmm... N95 mask $8.99 on Amazon, I use it just to go to the basement to do work up north.

[retiredguy123]

Very short video, but very funny and also sad.

Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/nkosibooi/status/1235627900616966145)

[MoNonnon]

My sister-in-law is a nurse in NY. The boxes of masks that came in for them to use were all stolen. People are getting out of control.

[pdfortin]

If the virus can enter from a mucus membrane, a mask will do you very little good, your eyes are open..... Panic and fear . Children and elderly are always more likely to get viruses. How many die each year from the flu?

Why not look into boosting your immune system. Also, think about staying away from crowds when possible and remember, SICK people go to doctors, walk ins, and hospitals so guess what you could get there?

None of this is new to any one , just a new panic and fear mode. Yes, this is a problem and it could get bad but guess what, next year will be a new issue.

Something to think about, your immune system (mainly kids). Is this what you get when you teach a generation not to touch anything or play in the dirt because you could get sick ? "Don't touch that, you don't know who touched it."

What happened to the Indians long ago?... They got sick and died. From what? What was introduced to them from others.

Something to think about when ordering things online. Do you pop the airbags and bubble wrap in packaging? ....Where did the air in them come from ? LOL!! When you open the box, whom packed it and did they wash their hands? ... LOL !!
Shipping today is fast.... Fear and panic.... :boxing2:

[Drdoug49]

Thanks. Better to be an alive alarmist than a dead denier

[dewilson58]

I'm one of those bozo's that don't. But if a person that has Coronovirus walks by you & somehow you catch the virus, you like me, wouldn't be name calling, I personally would be PO'd that I didn't wear a mask. I really think if you're going to catch the virus, you'll catch it even if you have the whole Coronavirus suit on, because all you have to do is have one little slip up!




You misunderstood my post. :ohdear:

[Sensei]

This hoax was not perpetrated by any political group. It is the Scalawags' Society that seeks to inspire mask wearing as common place, socially acceptable attire. Then, scalawags and ne'er-do-wells, following a robbery or other crime can easily blend into the crowd.
Sadly we come to realize not everyone wearing a mask will turn-out to be the Lone Ranger.

[OhioBuckeye]

You misunderstood my post. :ohdear:

Sorry, no I understood what you were trying to say, I just got carried away with my own idea's about the virus, sorry. I should of just stuck with your question!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

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...because "these are bad things happening, and most of them can be minimized by taking equally minimal, but important, precautions" is too much work.

[theruizs]

It's not that masks will work for one and not the other... There is a difference between the plain paper surgical mask and the N-95. The function of the paper mask would only be to remind YOU not to touch your face. Masks that the healthcare providers are being fitted for are "form-fitted" to your face and can filter viruses.

Right. Some of the masks I have seen worn won’t filter out a virus. They are micron sized and even Hepa filters do not work 100% of the time on viruses. Even with an N95 the odds that you or even health care workers will get it 100% sealed and pretty small. But health care workers see a lot of people some of whom will have the virus, and some of the workers will get the virus anyway so the mask helps the, from spreading it if they aren’t aware they have it right away. We have a choice, minimizing contact and washing hands correctly will do far more than any mask, IMHO.

[regas56]

All 3 of my Doctors told me the exact same thing, unless I have the flu, NO MASK.. Over the last few weeks I've knocked down popcorn texture mudded and sanded 20 gallons of drywall mud on my job so I've worn a mask pretty much the entire time I'm at work.. Last week one of my painters missed 4 days with the flu and this week I missed 3 days with the flu, WTH where did I catch it? Home to work, work to home an empty house zero contact with ANYONE..... that makes no sense.. at least until the owners came by to drop off some paper work and the wife apologized for not stopping by to see us for awhile she was out sick with the flu and only came by when no one was there. hahahaha The flu is like death when it wants ya it's gonna get ya no matter how careful you are.. Kinda like the guy awhile back in Fla. that was reading from the safe confines of his bed when a sink hole swallowed him up.. Keep you hands sterile and in your pockets... with your fingers crossed..

[seoulbrooks]

I guess it's a matter of choice but I guess it would be a little protection. Me personally I don't want to look like I'm from China. It's just a little to much for me because you could get Coronavirus just touching products at the store or if someone sneezes & that person that sneezes is up wind from you, you could walk right into their infection 15 ft. away. You couldn't eat in restaurants because you would have to eat from their utensils, touch the bill to pay, touch the door to leave or come in. It's just a little to much for me to wear a mask. I would be so paranoid that I couldn't use my hands again. Me myself I just wash my hands all the time but I still could catch it. But if you don't mind wearing a mask where one but that really doesn't mean you couldn't catch the virus. But it would help some I guess!

The Chinese/Koreans/Japanese/Asians/Health Care providers wear them so they do not look like someone from the Villages......

[dewilson58]

I'm wearing a coffee filter with masking tape.




Masking tape.............:MOJE_whot:

[retiredguy123]

On his show tonight, Tucker Carlson reported that the Government has been lying to us about masks being useless in protecting us against the Coronavirus. I always suspected it.

[Koapaka]

Right. Some of the masks I have seen worn won’t filter out a virus. They are micron sized and even Heppa filters do not work 100% of the time on viruses. Even with an N95 the odds that you or even health care workers will get it 100% sealed and pretty small. But health care workers see a lot of people some of whom will have the virus, and some of the workers will get the virus anyway so the mask helps the, from spreading it if they aren’t aware they have it right away. We have a choice, minimizing contact and washing hands correctly will do far more than any mask, IMHO.

You DO realize that a "surgical mask" is sufficient when patients are required to undergo invasive procedures under sterile conditions, correct???? NO, not as effective as N-95 (when available) but historically used when the patient is surgical and invasive procedures leave them most at risk for nosocomial infections????

[queasy27]

This is my layman's thought process about masks.

We have been told to wear standard masks (because most citizens don't have access to the others) only if we have symptoms, in order to protect others. If an inexpensive mask is recommended to help prevent the spread of the virus when we cough or sneeze, it makes sense to me that wearing one will similarly help prevent me from being infected by others. Emphases on HELP prevent. Even if it's only a little, why not.

Another factor for me personally is an autoimmune disease that affects my lungs and causes a dry cough. I rarely leave the house but I've had to be out a few times this month and don't want any people who see and hear me coughing to start putting tree trunks across my driveway.

[oldtimes]

If the virus can enter from a mucus membrane, a mask will do you very little good, your eyes are open..... Panic and fear .

Best post I have seen. Forget the masks and just stay home and wash your hands.

[JoMar]

There have been some positive reports on the creative and entrepreneurial spirit as more and more individuals are finding ways to manufacture the stuff that's needed. There was a report last night on a surgeon who took the "blanket" that covers the surgical instruments in the operating room and wondered if he could breath through it. Hmmmm.....he could. Today individual seamstress's are making them and a major company is now looking at it for mass production. The American spirit continues to fight

[jebartle]

Meanwhile Wuhan (all use face mask) are recovering from virus. Must be a good idea.

[Velvet]

I like masks! I think they can be quite stylish and keep away bad breath and people from spitting and you have to take them off to smoke. So even under “normal” circumstances they could be a good idea. Also I find people keep thinking I’m a lot younger when I wear a mask. :)

[JoMar]

On his show tonight, Tucker Carlson reported that the Government has been lying to us about masks being useless in protecting us against the Coronavirus. I always suspected it.

Oh great, lets all listen to the talking heads on the network of your choice and believe what they say so we can all be safe. Lets not listen to doctors or science, what the heck do they know.

[retiredguy123]

Oh great, lets all listen to the talking heads on the network of your choice and believe what they say so we can all be safe. Lets not listen to doctors or science, what the heck do they know.
I just saw Dana Perino intervew Dr. William Haseltine, former Harvard Medical School professor. He said it is a good idea for anyone to wear a mask when going out, and that he just ordered some masks.

[Two Bills]

On his show tonight, Tucker Carlson reported that the Government has been lying to us about masks being useless in protecting us against the Coronavirus. I always suspected it.


When and how to use masks (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks)

[JoMar]

I just saw Dana Perino intervew Dr. William Haseltine, former Harvard Medical School professor. He said it is a good idea for anyone to wear a mask when going out, and that he just ordered some masks.

He said that if you are infected or sick or experiencing symptoms it protects other people around you, it will also have a spacing impact by making you aware of people around you so you can keep your distance and if you touch something it may prevent you from touching your face. He also said that there is a psychological impact, it may make you calmer and feel safer. He did not say it would prevent you from getting it but it would help change behavior, make you feel better and give you an awareness which should keep you safer. Most of what I read is that the cloth masks will not seal so if someone coughs or sneezes near you it will find the gaps.

[retiredguy123]

He said that if you are infected or sick or experiencing symptoms it protects other people around you, it will also have a spacing impact by making you aware of people around you so you can keep your distance and if you touch something it may prevent you from touching your face. He also said that there is a psychological impact, it may make you calmer and feel safer. He did not say it would prevent you from getting it but it would help change behavior, make you feel better and give you an awareness which should keep you safer. Most of what I read is that the cloth masks will not seal so if someone coughs or sneezes near you it will find the gaps.
Basically, I agree that is what he said. But, it is very contrary to what other doctors have been saying for the past month or so. In fact, some are saying that the mask will have a negative psychological impact by creating a false sense of security. Obviously, nothing is going to totally prevent you from getting or spreading the virus. But, when you can spread the disease when you don't even have symptoms, wearing a mask will surely have some preventive effect on giving it to someone else. And, it will be a reminder to yourself to not touch your face. Also, the doctor told Dana Perino that he had ordered masks for his own use.

[blueash]

The issue of masks has been discussed in other threads. I posted a few studie (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/first-villager-tests-positive-304000/index4.html#post1730337)s on use of simple surgical masks vs N95 masks vs no masks before.

To summarize there have very few studies studying utility of masks. One from China showed no benefit (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705692/) to a simple surgical mask in a hospital setting. The N95 masks did work

A study from Canada (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19797474) in hospital nurses had both N95 and simple surgical masks equally effective or equally ineffective. There was no control group to see what the rate with no mask might have been.

Lastly a study from Australia (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/) where there was a sick child with flu like illness in the home. Some were given no mask, some a simple surgical mask, some an N95 mask with no specific fitting and the rate of the adults becoming ill was compared. The wearing of any mask was calculated to reduce contagion by 60-80% with no difference in success with either mask over the other. There are lots of imperfections in this study including this was intense exposure, poor compliance with keeping the mask on, and exposure to the sick child before entry into the study. But there was clear evidence that a simple mask in an intense exposure was much better than nothing.

I could not find any studies on wearing a mask in a community setting. But it makes sense to me that some barrier is better than no barrier. Whether the barrier works by keeping droplets from being inhaled or just as a reminder to not touch your face, or scares strangers away from you, whatever the mechanism. When the CDC says there is no evidence that wearing a mask will protect you from Covid in a community setting, that is 100% true. However the reverse is also true. There is no evidence that it won't help.

The CDC is correctly trying to advise on evidence of what does help.. hand washing, proven, avoid touching your face, strongly suggestive proof based on mode of entry, spacing based on knowledge of droplet mechanics. Mask.. no evidence or weak and contrary studies. But those who say it can't hurt, other than depriving medical personnel of PPE [a big point not to be ignored] have some merit in their argument.

[retiredguy123]

There are studies, and there is common sense.

[blueash]

There are studies, and there is common sense.

So if there were a well designed study and the findings were the opposite of that which you might define as common sense, which would you believe? It was common sense that the earth was flat, that the sun went around the earth, that the stars and the planets effected our lives, that the devil caused epilepsy, that drawing blood cured illnesses, that white people were better than black or brown or yellow or red people. I know which I'd use to make my decisions when the two are in conflict.

[retiredguy123]

So if there were a well designed study and the findings were the opposite of that which you might define as common sense, which would you believe? It was common sense that the earth was flat, that the sun went around the earth, that the stars and the planets effected our lives, that the devil caused epilepsy, that drawing blood cured illnesses, that white people were better than black or brown or yellow or red people. I know which I'd use to make my decisions when the two are in conflict.
I agree. But, as an engineer, I trust that buildings are designed for safety. But, whenever I step into an elevator, I always look to see if there is a floor to step onto. To me, that is common sense.

[Two Bills]

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I knew keeping our WW2 gas masks would pay off one day!
Still have the three of them.
Problem is the filters have broken down, and you can't breath in them!

[Paper1]

I agree that health care workers NEED them...but stop trying to tell me that they will work for health care workers, but they won't work for me.

I agree 100% with your post. I like most of us understand our medical professionals have to have them first because they work but please don’t tell if the General public wore N95 masks it would not have a positive effect on flattening curve. We plain ass got caught flat footed and can’t come up with the PPE for ordinary citizens so must rely on the near complete shutdown of economy.

[Number 10 GI]

Meanwhile Wuhan (all use face mask) are recovering from virus. Must be a good idea.
How do you know for certain that everyone there uses a face mask? If you believe that because the Chinese government said it, I have some bridge property on I75 and I4 that I will let go real cheap.

[martine48]

A few days ago there was a post on this forum of a Youtube by the head South Korean doctor who specializes in fighting virus such as Coronavirus. I suggest anyone who has doubts of the efficiency of face masks should look at this Youtube. The only reason the Pense task force was not recommending face masks was because there weren't any masks available for the general population
On the issue of selling bridges are you having any luck..oh and by the way do you have any TP going cheap.:MOJE_whot:

[GoodLife]

A few days ago there was a post on this forum of a Youtube by the head South Korean doctor who specializes in fighting virus such as Coronavirus. I suggest anyone who has doubts of the efficiency of face masks should look at this Youtube. The only reason the Pense task force was not recommending face masks was because there weren't any masks available for the general population
On the issue of selling bridges are you having any luck..oh and by the way do you have any TP going cheap.:MOJE_whot:

See graph for info on how S Korea is doing vs the world

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[billethkid]

This has been posted before. Fauci equivilant in S Korea.

Hear what he has to say about the use and impact of masks:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/medical-health-discussion-94/koreas-foremost-infectious-disease-expert-dr-fauci-counterpart-304737/