CoronaVirus | Club Events | Town Squares

[jimbo2012]

Just wondering if your scheduled club events are being canceled or not.

I run the Long Island Club and are now getting emails if our 4/7 event will happen or not.

What about the nitely squares

[thelegges]

Squares eww packed last night. So far none of our meetings have been canceled.

[rockandroller]

I have seen news of Bunco (at Miona?) and Jim / Carolyn's dance class at Captiva.

IMO, all it would take is one COVID-19 case in TV to balloon into a real panic.

[jimbo2012]

IMO, all it would take is one COVID-19 case in TV to balloon into a real panic.

Agree, with over 100,000 it is possible, people are still returning from cruises and points outside the country.

Moreover, with most of us in the high risk age group and surly not enough ICU beds in the area.

This could be avoided and limited, but step one is closing the squares perhaps for 30 days to see how it develops

Let's hope it doesn't happen

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[thelegges]

Agree, with over 100,000 it is possible, people are still returning from cruises and points outside the country.

Moreover, with most of us in the high risk age group and surly not enough ICU beds in the area.

This could be avoided and limited, but step one is closing the squares perhaps for 30 days to see how it develops

Let's hope it doesn't happen

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One does not have to worry about beds, every hospital has a emergency plan for an event. Hospitals can send all their OB to one facility, and set one hospital for another issue.
Triage is always set up in the parking lot, and then set to correct facility. Entire floors can be turned into whatever the need.

[jimbo2012]

April 7th Long Island Club event

This event scheduled for 6 p.m. is being canceled due to COVID-19 concerns. The event was to take place at the Eisenhower Recreation Center.

National and local health authorities have determined that social distancing reduces the risk of spreading or contracting this virus.

As the President I'm canceling out of an abundance of caution to avoid the possibility of unnecessarily exposing my friend's and fellow long Islanders.

Bob

[cbg150]

One does not have to worry about beds, every hospital has a emergency plan for an event. Hospitals can send all their OB to one facility, and set one hospital for another issue.
Triage is always set up in the parking lot, and then set to correct facility. Entire floors can be turned into whatever the need.
But how many respirators do you think we have in this area? If only 2 % of the population gets seriously ill, they may need to intubate 2000 people. We do not have the resources to make that happen. For some this will be a lethal illness and health practitioners will need to make some tough decisions.
In our demographic, we each need to take responsibility for prevention. Avoid large scale events that can quickly multiply the scale of the infection.

[thelegges]

But how many respirators do you think we have in this area? If only 2 % of the population gets seriously ill, they may need to intubate 2000 people. We do not have the resources to make that happen. For some this will be a lethal illness and health practitioners will need to make some tough decisions.
In our demographic, we each need to take responsibility for prevention. Avoid large scale events that can quickly multiply the scale of the infection.

No worries soon the population will drop in Florida. By the looks of I75 for the past 2 weeks the migration has started earlier than usual.
I have faith in medical emergency plans, it is what every staff member is trained for. Vents are portable, and can be moved to a facility quickly. This will not be the first time any medical staff need to make decisions, it’s not tough, it very cut and dry. There is protocol.

As for attending events, one should have made that decision weeks ago.

[billlaur]

Hope they still have the craft shows on saaaaturday..:pray:

[golfing eagles]

But how many respirators do you think we have in this area? If only 2 % of the population gets seriously ill, they may need to intubate 2000 people. We do not have the resources to make that happen. For some this will be a lethal illness and health practitioners will need to make some tough decisions.
In our demographic, we each need to take responsibility for prevention. Avoid large scale events that can quickly multiply the scale of the infection.

Intubate 2,000 people in our immediate area? You can't be serious. You are talking about the sickest of the sick who will need mechanical ventilation, so if 2,000 people out of say 120,000 need vent support, then probably 90+% of the population would be infected, (just an estimate, don't ask for a citation), making this worse than the bubonic plague of the 1300's

[wine5465]

I don't have the same comfort level in our hospitals meaning TV and Leesburg. I except Brownwood's new ER to this comment. I had several bronchitis with asthma and could not breathe but was kept waiting 5 hours in ER. A second time same year put in hallway in Leesburg as TV full up and had to wait gasping a while. That was 4 to 5 years ago. 2 years ago, waited 7 hours in ER with appendicitis. No improvement from 4 to 5 years ago.
Ocala has great ER and got in right away. I would hope Ugent Cares would expand hours to assist with some treatment although no beds

[024engine]

Stop posting these things please. You're only going to create Panic by doing so. The threat is not as large as people are making it out to be. Please just stop!!

[Bonnevie]

One does not have to worry about beds, every hospital has a emergency plan for an event. Hospitals can send all their OB to one facility, and set one hospital for another issue.
Triage is always set up in the parking lot, and then set to correct facility. Entire floors can be turned into whatever the need.

how many OB beds do you think the Villages hospitals have???? Italy's health system is in crisis to lack of ICU beds. we have over 100,000 people here in the age group and with pre-exisiting conditions that could require ICU beds and/or respirators. but beyond that is staffing....already the area hospitals suffer from lack of staffing. it would be a disaster here.

[golfing eagles]

how many OB beds do you think the Villages hospitals have???? Italy's health system is in crisis to lack of ICU beds. we have over 100,000 people here in the age group and with pre-exisiting conditions that could require ICU beds and/or respirators. but beyond that is staffing....already the area hospitals suffer from lack of staffing. it would be a disaster here.

I doubt there are many OB beds, since Villagers are generally over the childbearing age:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[thelegges]

how many OB beds do you think the Villages hospitals have???? Italy's health system is in crisis to lack of ICU beds. we have over 100,000 people here in the age group and with pre-exisiting conditions that could require ICU beds and/or respirators. but beyond that is staffing....already the area hospitals suffer from lack of staffing. it would be a disaster here.

I didn’t say OB here:faint: hospitals would put like cases out of harms way, say a newborn, or infant, and move them to the same facility. Leaving all of the old people in one spot. It amazes me that people think anywhere in the US that 2000 people could be vented, in the same area.

As far as staffing you must not have come from medical field. If you work at a facility, and it becomes a triage unit. Everyone day off, vacation are called to work. You do not have a choice, and you will not be leaving that facility until the crisis is over. Yep you live there. Yes you work 16 hours, 8 off if possible. I have had the pleasure to serve in this situation more than once.

Medical staff do not panic, if they did they are in the wrong field.

The bonus is this is not trauma, so the new grads, won’t be deer in the headlights.

[msilagy]

The Villages is being REACTIVE instead of PROACIVE - very disappointing! People have to be informed and precautions and containment put in place. Colleges have cancelled all classes in some states without even a case! We are all at risk....are they smarter? Apparently........

[billethkid]

How about a positive reaction?
Maybe, TV, like many other responsible organizations have certain go-no go levels of feedback.
The fact that schools and public venues here are currently remaining as per normal, could/should be a positive indicator.

And for many negative or prejudiced folks that will not fly. But like it or not....it is just as accurate.

One always has their own self containment that can be implemented at any time they choose (OR NOT!!).

[rmd2]

One does not have to worry about beds, every hospital has a emergency plan for an event. Hospitals can send all their OB to one facility, and set one hospital for another issue.
Triage is always set up in the parking lot, and then set to correct facility. Entire floors can be turned into whatever the need.

I don't know about your post. Was it a joke? Whatever might happen I agree with a former poster it would be huge if we had even one person with coronavirus. People at risk are already not coming to play bridge as of the last few days. We have some people who amazingly are still going on cruises in spite of Dr. Fauci's (NIH) advice not to do that. We do have quite a few people still traveling back and forth to The Villages. If we had even one case I think it would be pandemonium. I would not want to go to any hospital around here. I don't believe they are fully supplied or prepared for that virus.

[golfing eagles]

I don't know about your post. Was it a joke? Whatever might happen I agree with a former poster it would be huge if we had even one person with coronavirus. People at risk are already not coming to play bridge as of the last few days. We have some people who amazingly are still going on cruises in spite of Dr. Fauci's (NIH) advice not to do that. We do have quite a few people still traveling back and forth to The Villages. If we had even one case I think it would be pandemonium. I would not want to go to any hospital around here. I don't believe they are fully supplied or prepared for that virus.

Based on what FACTS????

[rmd2]

I didn’t say OB here:faint: hospitals would put like cases out of harms way, say a newborn, or infant, and move them to the same facility. Leaving all of the old people in one spot. It amazes me that people think anywhere in the US that 2000 people could be vented, in the same area.

As far as staffing you must not have come from medical field. If you work at a facility, and it becomes a triage unit. Everyone day off, vacation are called to work. You do not have a choice, and you will not be leaving that facility until the crisis is over. Yep you live there. Yes you work 16 hours, 8 off if possible. I have had the pleasure to serve in this situation more than once.

Medical staff do not panic, if they did they are in the wrong field.

The bonus is this is not trauma, so the new grads, won’t be deer in the headlights.

I worked in many ER trauma hospitals and I know that often we were overwhelmed with trauma cases and had to re-route to other ERs. Eventually all the ERs in the area were at times past capacity for new cases. I think this area could be a disaster just based on the lack of ability to handle the current routine ER situation. We better hope an outbreak here does not happen!

[Lottoguy]

You are correct about that "just one case". Many Villagers love to travel and I'm one of them. If one person gets the virus it will really hit the fan here. Crossing my fingers...

[rmd2]

Based on what FACTS????

Based on the fact that The Villages and Leesburg hospital ERs cannot handle the routine (non-carona virus) emergencies right now. Based on the wait times right now that are still long - up to 7-8 hours, based on no beds, people waiting for beds for hours in the hallways on a stretcher, based on substandard medical treatment that has occurred in the past.
These are just a few reasons why a coronavirus outbreak here could be very bad.

[golfing eagles]

Based on the fact that The Villages and Leesburg hospital ERs cannot handle the routine (non-carona virus) emergencies right now. Based on the wait times right now that are still long - up to 7-8 hours, based on no beds, people waiting for beds for hours in the hallways on a stretcher, based on substandard medical treatment that has occurred in the past.
These are just a few reasons why a coronavirus outbreak here could be very bad.

Bold=opinion
italic=ER waits are long everywhere
underlined= opinion

Still waiting for factual information about how local hospitals are not prepared. I'm not saying they are, but I have no evidence that shows they are not

[Bambi]

Hope they still have the craft shows on saaaaturday..:pray:
We are in the beginning of a world wide pandemic with global health, social and economic effects. We live within a population that likes to congregate in large numbers-many having serious existing health concerns. CDC has advised that people over sixty stay home and your bigger worry is a craft sale?

[vitacr]

The Catfish Fry scheduled for Sat. 3/14 is canceled because of the scare. The monthly meeting of the Louisiana Club might also be canceled. Sad....................
Just wondering if your scheduled club events are being canceled or not.

I run the Long Island Club and are now getting emails if our 4/7 event will happen or not.

What about the nitely squares

[rmd2]

Bold=opinion
italic=ER waits are long everywhere
underlined= opinion

Still waiting for factual information about how local hospitals are not prepared. I'm not saying they are, but I have no evidence that shows they are not
I just gave you 4 facts.
Further, you said ER waits are long everywhere. The shortest wait time in The Villages ER for the 2 times in 10 years that I went there was 7 1/2 hours. The 2 times I went to the Ocala ER near Del Webb my wait time was less than 5 minutes.

[golfing eagles]

I just gave you 4 facts.
Further, you said ER waits are long everywhere. The shortest wait time in The Villages ER for the 2 times in 10 years that I went there was 7 1/2 hours. The 2 times I went to the Ocala ER near Del Webb my wait time was less than 5 minutes.

No, you gave opinion, and one fact about wait time. Here's today's ER wait facts:
ER Wait Times Within 30 miles of 32162
These are the average wait times at hospitals near 32162. Actual wait times will depend on many factors.

Hospital - Share Your Experience
City

Total Wait Times

Leesburg Regional Medical Center Comment
Leesburg
3h 12m

Florida Hospital Waterman Comment
Tavares
3h 16m

Citrus Memorial Hospital Comment
Inverness
3h 24m

Villages Regional Hospital, The Comment
The Villages
3h 35m

Munroe Regional Medical Center Comment
Ocala
4h 42m

Where is the proof of "substandard care"?---that's right, it's all anecdotal, and many of the stories posted make no medical sense

Where the proof that they lack supplies? Did you take inventory?

You cannot conflagrate fact and opinion, that's what the mainstream media is for.

[Silver Streak]

What no one has mentioned is that we actually have NO idea whether there are already cases of Coronavirus here in The Villages because there's been NO testing. As of last night, according to Gov. DeSantis, fewer than 1000 people in the whole STATE of Florida have been tested and they're still waiting on results from almost half of those. I haven't heard of ANYONE being tested here yet. Tests are still in VERY short supply and being rationed out to hospitals. They're only allowed to test if there's actual evidence of exposure. By the time we know for sure how many are infected here, it'll be way too late to contain it. Having your favorite events canceled is a pretty small price to pay considering how many lives could be at stake with a population as vulnerable as ours.

[Bonnevie]

No, you gave opinion, and one fact about wait time. Here's today's ER wait facts:
ER Wait Times Within 30 miles of 32162
These are the average wait times at hospitals near 32162. Actual wait times will depend on many factors.

Hospital - Share Your Experience
City

Total Wait Times

Leesburg Regional Medical Center Comment
Leesburg
3h 12m

Florida Hospital Waterman Comment
Tavares
3h 16m

Citrus Memorial Hospital Comment
Inverness
3h 24m

Villages Regional Hospital, The Comment
The Villages
3h 35m

Munroe Regional Medical Center Comment
Ocala
4h 42m

Where is the proof of "substandard care"?---that's right, it's all anecdotal, and many of the stories posted make no medical sense

Where the proof that they lack supplies? Did you take inventory?

You cannot conflagrate fact and opinion, that's what the mainstream media is for.

that might be based on the time you are first checked by ER staff. I have personally been with people who waited hours for beds and who told there were beds but there is a lack of staff. at that time there were multiple patients on beds in the halls of the ER. although my friend was in ER from ambulance, I'm sure her official wait time was low, but she did not see a practitioner for several hours. Another friend of mine with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer was sent to leesburg for admission.....waited from about 10am until 9pm sitting in waiting room. Patient advocate said could not give time for bed to be available.

now these are anecdotal incidents, but I trust my own experiences over published waiting times and I feel several people here can share similar stories.

[jimbo2012]

If you want this thread shut down, keep talking politics :boxing2:

[Schneil]

Governor is announcing stopping large group venues.
Several cruise lines have suspended services for 60 days.

[Bonnevie]

If you want this thread shut down, keep talking politics :boxing2:


"but Mom, he started it" you're absolutely correct--knee jerk response on my part.

[golfing eagles]

that might be based on the time you are first checked by ER staff. I have personally been with people who waited hours for beds and who told there were beds but there is a lack of staff. at that time there were multiple patients on beds in the halls of the ER. although my friend was in ER from ambulance, I'm sure her official wait time was low, but she did not see a practitioner for several hours. Another friend of mine with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer was sent to leesburg for admission.....waited from about 10am until 9pm sitting in waiting room. Patient advocate said could not give time for bed to be available.

now these are anecdotal incidents, but I trust my own experiences over published waiting times and I feel several people here can share similar stories.

You're right, they ARE anecdotal. And I can share stories across tens of thousands of ER encounters, some not so good, most pretty average, and a lot spectacular, so what. I have a problem with the statement "trust my own experience"---it is limited compared to the thousands of data points that go into the published numbers
Please avoid any physician who states "in my experience", I'm more interested in the evidence based medicine that should be practiced.

[anothersteve]

If you want this thread shut down, keep talking politics :boxing2:

I hope every one of the threads on this crap gets shut down.

I pity America if there was a real national threat.
And No I do not think this is a real national threat.
Steve

[bargee]

Lets all be a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem.
#1 Wash your Hands, Wash your Hands,Wash your Hands ect.
#2 Avoid Crowds
#3 If you suspect you have been infected DO NOT head to the ER or your Doctors office,call a medical professional and describe your symptoms and follow their advice.

[Chatbrat]

Just heard , wash your clothing after you have been in a close public environment(might also mean take a shower, too), also open windows and ventilate your habitate as much as possible

[anothersteve]

Just heard , wash your clothing after you have been in a close public environment(might also mean take a shower, too), also open windows and ventilate your habitate as much as possible

And don't touch the mail, don't touch money if you don't know where it came from, don't touch doorknobs, don't pet others pets. don't touch the ATM, stay out of restaurants, don't touch eating utensils, don't touch the gas pumps, don't buy beverages form the bar huts at the squares, don't go shopping for anything that you think has been touched or breathed on...................
.................and for God's...DON'T BREATH IN PUBLIC PLACES!!
I hope everyone heeds these common sense suggestions.
Steve

[CarolY]

Stop posting these things please. You're only going to create Panic by doing so. The threat is not as large as people are making it out to be. Please just stop!!
Agree wholeheartedlly!

[stan the man]

Governor is announcing stopping large group venues.
Several cruise lines have suspended services for 60 days.

How about Disney World ??????? $$$$$$

[Velvet]

In my opinion, it’s better to take precautions. At our age in TV the (possible) panic won’t kill us. But the virus may. (Yes, I know I have changed my mind, but I am now considering the current information we have on the virus.)

For the deniers: remember the guy who fell off the 10 story building and said as he passed the 5th story, “So far so good”.

[John41]

that might be based on the time you are first checked by ER staff. I have personally been with people who waited hours for beds and who told there were beds but there is a lack of staff. at that time there were multiple patients on beds in the halls of the ER. although my friend was in ER from ambulance, I'm sure her official wait time was low, but she did not see a practitioner for several hours. Another friend of mine with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer was sent to leesburg for admission.....waited from about 10am until 9pm sitting in waiting room. Patient advocate said could not give time for bed to be available.

now these are anecdotal incidents, but I trust my own experiences over published waiting times and I feel several people here can share similar stories.

i agree . when the tornado hit the villages in 2007 the ER was overwhelmed and care substandard at least for us. imagine a pandemic. and the villages hospital gets the worst rating from medicare.

[CWGUY]

Hope they still have the craft shows on saaaaturday..:pray:

Cancelled :faint:

[Boston1945]

I have lived here for just about 50-years now.A few years back I had to use the ER at LRMC.This was due to food poisoning.(My fault)
This was on a Sunday.The ER was packed at the time.I checked in with the front desk and gave them the info they needed.Total wait time was about 30-MINUTES.You would have thought I was JC himself. On other visits it was just about the same thing.Never had to wait that long.Last year I used the new urgent care at LRMC and was treated the same way.

[Bonnevie]

You're right, they ARE anecdotal. And I can share stories across tens of thousands of ER encounters, some not so good, most pretty average, and a lot spectacular, so what. I have a problem with the statement "trust my own experience"---it is limited compared to the thousands of data points that go into the published numbers
Please avoid any physician who states "in my experience", I'm more interested in the evidence based medicine that should be practiced.

as a pharmacist, I am aware of "evidence based medicine". well, I remember a young cardiology fellow suggested using lasix as an IV infusion back in 1980s and was laughed at. however, he had seen it clinically beneficial during his residency. guess what, it's now an accepted treatment. give me a common sense doctor with a lot of clinical experience and an open mind any day over someone who bases all decisions on numbers. many new practitioners (and I include pharmacists in that) are fixated on "evidence based" medicine and have not a lick of common sense.

one of the finest cardiologists I ever knew told me he listened to everyone....the nurses, the aides, the housekeepers if they had information about his patient. you can combine that with the numbers.

sorry, it's one of the reasons I retired....the lack of common sense was getting to be too much. length of stays determined by "numbers" instead of how the patient actually looked....and the same patient being readmitted in days, polypharmacy because the practitioners don't have time to really look at past records.

[jdsl1998]

The Villages just closed down the production at Savannah Center tonight. It was closing night of The Producers and it was sold out. I'm bummed, but I understand.

[Northerner52]

This Corona Pandemic is crazy. The flu is worse. We don't shut down the world because of those deaths. Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year.

[xNYer]

This Corona Pandemic is crazy. The flu is worse. We don't shut down the world because of those deaths. Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year.

You can’t compare the flu with covid 19 which is only at the beginning stages. There is no way you know the flu is worse at this early stage of the pandemic.

[Bonnevie]

This Corona Pandemic is crazy. The flu is worse. We don't shut down the world because of those deaths. Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year.

you, are why this will be a problem. yes, flu kills this amount of people. the problem with a Covid 19 pandemic is that it has the ability to overwhelm a health system so that there is not enough staff or equipment to provide the care needed for the critical cases. Italy went from 2 cases on jan. 31 to total country shut down the beginning of March.

The first cases of the 2019–20 coronavirus in Italy were confirmed on 31 January 2020, when two Chinese tourists in Rome tested positive for coronavirus disease 2019, caused by SARS-CoV-2.[2] A week later, an Italian man repatriated back to Italy from the city of Wuhan, China, was hospitalised and confirmed to be the third case of the 2019–20 coronavirus in Italy.[3] A cluster of cases were later detected, starting with 16 confirmed cases in Lombardy on 21 February.[4] An additional 60 cases occurred on 22 February,[5] and Italy's first deaths were reported on the same day.

As of 12 March, among nations with at least one million citizens, Italy has the world's highest per capita rate of positive coronavirus cases at 206.1 cases per million people

[EdFNJ]

The Villages just closed down the production at Savannah Center tonight. It was closing night of The Producers and it was sold out. I'm bummed, but I understand.Good for them! They also just canceled ALL Savannah Center and Sharon Morse Center shows for at least the next week but (as of now) they are having St Patrick's Day in the the square tomorrow which (normally) draws packed crowds and packed bars with people hanging over each other. Go figure.

Just wait till the first case is announced here assuming anyone can get a test. Then all the naysayers themselves will be the first to go hide. Hey people, even el Presidente is pretending he believes it's real now. Just because more people die of the flu doesn't make it the same illness. According to the CDC something like 35 people in the US were tested yesterday and something like 100 reported from other state agencies vs 10,000/day in some other counties. Just wait until the tests are actually available.

[Velvet]

Reminds me of Jeremiah 7:27

"When you tell them all this, they will not listen to you; when you call to them, they will not answer.”

Btw, Disney World closes Sunday.

[chewy]

With all of the restrictions in Florida being seen outside The Villages (sporting events, concerts, theaters, churches, cruises, etc) I think considering the higher risk residents and possible restrictions would be prudent. I am concerned that with Spring Break we will be having many out of state visitors with guest passes who have not been screened for any recent health issues (as survey on a cruise). A challenging decision no matter which direction you go. The Village Administration would be able to at least tabulate the number of guest passes issued.

[Lychee]

It will close on Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Happinow]

Craft show this weekend has been canceled

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

With all of the restrictions in Florida being seen outside The Villages (sporting events, concerts, theaters, churches, cruises, etc) I think considering the higher risk residents and possible restrictions would be prudent. I am concerned that with Spring Break we will be having many out of state visitors with guest passes who have not been screened for any recent health issues (as survey on a cruise). A challenging decision no matter which direction you go. The Village Administration would be able to at least tabulate the number of guest passes issued.

I don't think you'll have to worry too much about spring break this year. Schools across the country are already closed as a preventative measure. Parents nationwide are a little more concerned with how they'll be able to take time off from work to take care of their kids for the next month or two, and not so much about whether or not to book a flight to Florida.

[Jack58033]

What would panic look like in the Villages? A run on toilet paper!

[Velvet]

More people would take up Solitaire?

[kittygilchrist]

Scrabble app

[Toymeister]

I am living in one of the worst locations for spread of the virus. You may take some insight on what precautions we have.

Afghanistan has Iran for a neighbor, Americans have 80 square feet of living space, most contractors have 50. We share latrine and shower trailers. We eat and work together in very close proximity. No virus.

Hand washing, sanitizer, and seeking medical attention if ill.
We cover our mouths when we cough. Pretty simple.

There are no limitations on gathering in groups.

It brings all the chit chat on this thread in perspective.

[Bay Kid]

The sky is falling.

[Chatbrat]

How many remember "POLIO" season, summer time everyone was scared to go to pools and beaches--it passed thanks to D. Jonas Salk- I was one of the test kids back in 54'--too bad there are no drive in movies anymore--great way to go see a movie safely--

[Jerseygirl08]

I recently met a good friend in Orlando for the day. She is a PHS - Public Health Service - Officer nurse who was deployed to Omaha, Neb for a week of clinical work for people who were on lock down after returning from cruises, other countries, etc. Her take away from that week of working with CDC officials:

1. This is not 20 times worse than a cold. It may be 3 times worse because the virus does a number on your lungs. So anyone with a pre-existing lung/breathing condition should take the highest precautions. And, of course, others who are at risk and most know who they are.
2. The most obvious symptoms are dry cough, high fever like over 101. If you take a deep breath and hold it for ten seconds, successfully, without coughing, good news. People with the virus cannot hold their breath without coughing. Some people with COPD cannot pass this test either, under normal conditions, so it's just a benchmark.
3. Wash your hands like crazy, especially when you return to your home. Go straight to the sink and wash. Some people say changing your clothes immediately is helpful as the virus can survive on objects, like clothing, for a long while.
4. Stay very well hydrated. gargle with salt water twice daily. Use a normal saline nasal spray to keep nasal passages moist. A dry respiratory tract invites viral cells to find their way into your lungs quicker.
5. If out of home and you sneeze, sneeze into your inner elbow so as not to spread droplets through the air. If you sneeze into your hand, wash your hands immediately following the sneeze.
6. No need to rush to get surgical masks to wear. Masks are for the sick person. Wearing a mask only invites the virus to cling to the mask then you touch the mask over and over and the virus is now on your hands and everything you touch afterwards. I know some may disagree, this is what the CDC has learned to be most effective in cases like spreading droplets in the air.
7. Avoid hugging and handshaking, no explanation needed.

It is my personal opinion that any event with alot of people, indoors especially, should be cancelled to prevent the likelihood of an infected person unknowingly spreading the virus here in the bubble. If you must go to a big indoor event, be sure to use good judgment in order to protect your self and those around you. Also, I think people who have been on a plane or a cruise should attempt to self quarantine, as best they can, for 14 days, as a precautionary measure.

We American's are so blessed in so many ways and I don't think we remember that fact enough. It's a sacrifice to miss out on events but we need to protect our most vulnerable friends and neighbors. In my opinion, even though it is a huge inconvenience and disappointment (I really wanted to go the craft fair on Saturday and cardio drumming today) I think avoiding crowds is the very best practice we can all do. It's for the sake of all of us, we are all here together and should give a little in order to protect each other, my opinion. I don't plan to debate what I've posted here, just wanted to share what I have learned and also share my opinion as a nurse.

[Chi-Town]

Sold out Trisha Yearwood at The Sharon is cancelled. St Patrick's Day at LSL is still on.

[Jerseygirl08]

You can’t compare the flu with covid 19 which is only at the beginning stages. There is no way you know the flu is worse at this early stage of the pandemic.

I think I've learned the Coronavirus is different because of the ability of the droplets to survive much longer, on all surfaces and in the air. Also, this strain goes right into your lungs.

It's really hard for any of us to determine if this is an unnecessary scare 'PANDEMIC" at all. The media is scarring the pants off of people. My friend in San Diego told me you can't buy bottled water, toilet paper (of all things), hand sanitize or Lysol wipes anywhere. All stores have been wiped out. American's are panicking and I sure hope this doesn't open the flood gates for ideas of how to do harm to American's in the future. Bad guys are watching the way we react. Also remember, China produces most of our antibiotics!!!! Ouch!!!

[DonnaNi4os]

The craft show has been cancelled

[fignewtons]

Ohio has cancelled school grades k-12 in all of ohio for 3 wks. Cleveland has shut down Playhouse square Museums are closed anything with crowds of 100 people or more.

[cj740@comcast.net]

I doubt there are many OB beds, since Villagers are generally over the childbearing age:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Sorry - don't know what OB beds are?

[cj740@comcast.net]

Sorry - don't know what OB beds are?

Ooops….just realized - OBstetrics….I'm a little slow this morning.:ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

Sorry - don't know what OB beds are?

Obstetrics

[CFrance]

No, you gave opinion, and one fact about wait time. Here's today's ER wait facts:
ER Wait Times Within 30 miles of 32162
These are the average wait times at hospitals near 32162. Actual wait times will depend on many factors.

Hospital - Share Your Experience
City

Total Wait Times

Leesburg Regional Medical Center Comment
Leesburg
3h 12m

Florida Hospital Waterman Comment
Tavares
3h 16m

Citrus Memorial Hospital Comment
Inverness
3h 24m

Villages Regional Hospital, The Comment
The Villages
3h 35m

Munroe Regional Medical Center Comment
Ocala
4h 42m

Where is the proof of "substandard care"?---that's right, it's all anecdotal, and many of the stories posted make no medical sense

Where the proof that they lack supplies? Did you take inventory?

You cannot conflagrate fact and opinion, that's what the mainstream media is for.
About those averages... My husband went to TVRH ER in August one year. Wait time: 0. My friend was in a horrible car accident and went to the same ER during the winter season. Wait time: 7 hours on a gurney in a hallway. Average wait time between those two: 3.5 hours.