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Houselover
03-11-2020, 06:01 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
JoMar
03-11-2020, 06:26 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility? Disney is still open, movie theaters are still open, Broadway theaters are still open, restaurants are still open, and here, the squares and all the stores and restaurants are also open. Self quarantine is an option if you are concerned (assuming you can find toilet paper). Minor league baseball continues, NASCAR continues, Olympic trials continue so not sure "the rest of the sports world" is with the NBA and college basketball. That may change but asking government to take charge of my life is not anywhere near my wheelhouse.
billethkid
03-11-2020, 06:38 PM
YOU are the very best option to control your exposure (or not).
There is no need to have the government or anyone else to dictate the common sense precautions that need be taken.
Be careful what you wish for....YOU are the very best option to control your exposure.
Marathon Man
03-11-2020, 06:54 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
Personal resonsibility is alive and well. I would like to make my own decisions, thank you very much. I want government to step in only when idications are that they need to. So far, "The Villages" does not need to.
Those who are concerned about being around crowds are invited to make their own decision and stay home.
anothersteve
03-11-2020, 07:55 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
Again..........ridiculous..............the freaking sky is not falling people!
Steve
NotGolfer
03-11-2020, 08:46 PM
As with anything personal, you need to be your own self-advocate and that goes for health issues as well. The Villages isn't our baby-sitter and we all have a choice on whether we participate in activities or not. I have autoimmune issues where "some" would say hibernate, but I refuse to give up what mobility I do have. I still will shop, go the church, the dr. etc. Just use common sense, wash your hands and do what "they're" telling you to do to maintain health. IF you feel sick or coming down with something----stay home!!
cbg150
03-12-2020, 01:23 AM
Remember, this is not just about YOU and your preferences. Social distancing is one of the best ways to prevent the spread of the Coronavirus in a community. Limiting large scale events is a good preventative measure, especially among our demographic group. Each of us can sacrifice a little during the height of the outbreak and prevent this pandemic from overwhelming the hospitals and bringing harm to our neighbors.
villageuser
03-12-2020, 05:31 AM
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility? Disney is still open, movie theaters are still open, Broadway theaters are still open, restaurants are still open, and here, the squares and all the stores and restaurants are also open. Self quarantine is an option if you are concerned (assuming you can find toilet paper). Minor league baseball continues, NASCAR continues, Olympic trials continue so not sure "the rest of the sports world" is with the NBA and college basketball. That may change but asking government to take charge of my life is not anywhere near my wheelhouse.
Canceling potentially big-turn-out events is not just about telling people what or what not to do. It is about resolving the situation of people throwing an event, having to hire people, caterers, entertainers, etc, for an event that nearly nobody will come to if they are wanting to be careful with their health and the health of their friends, family, and neighbors. Better to reimburse people for canceling an event rather than going through that stress, I figure. That way everyone is on the same page.
Travel41
03-12-2020, 05:36 AM
The Sharon and the Savannah do not have large numbers attending like NBA games. Please don’t cancel shows at these venues.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 05:41 AM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
Forget the rest of the world, certain areas are in a completely different situation.
So, aside from the NBA which had a PLAYER test positive, what has been cancelled? No announcement from MLB, Disney is open, Players championship starts today.
Your point will be well taken if cases start to show up here, but until then, no need to panic
skarra
03-12-2020, 05:43 AM
Remember, this is not just about YOU and your preferences. Social distancing is one of the best ways to prevent the spread of the Coronavirus in a community. Limiting large scale events is a good preventative measure, especially among our demographic group. Each of us can sacrifice a little during the height of the outbreak and prevent this pandemic from overwhelming the hospitals and bringing harm to our neighbors.
I agree COMPLETELY, even though I lean libertarian.
I'm reminded of a young person I had a conversation with yesterday who didn't care as no-one under-30 has died from the disease and they were quite happy to expose themselves to high risks. The point is that the more people that get it (including this under-30 year old), the more at risk the rest of us are. ALL of us. And especially anyone over 60.
If this gets a hold in the villages I see a lot of people not making it through this. And the infection curve is very steep. Look at Coronavirus Update (Live): 126,673 Cases and 4,641 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus) to see what we are up against. Hospitals are going to be overwhelmed very quickly.
If you are good at completely avoiding the flu each year then perhaps you have a chance, otherwise why risk it or why would you want to have someone else take that risk for you??
Drdoug49
03-12-2020, 05:46 AM
The villages is composed of vulnerable elderly people, yet we continue to have nightly entertainment at the squares, recreational centers do not have sanitizers in rooms, why not
jebartle
03-12-2020, 05:54 AM
Shocked that "our petri dish" of coronavirus "could be recipients" here in Villages has not reared it's ugly head. We qualify for the age group, we travel, we gather for numerous activities. Be safe folks and self isolate.
Cheapbas
03-12-2020, 05:56 AM
I think I agree with you houselover vs. the last 6 posts. There are 2, not 1, ways to combat this. 1) yes, of course, take care of yourself, thats your responsibility. 2) CONTAINMENT, the responsibility of local officials.
Look at the numbers on the WHO page regarding those who contracted this.....over 80 - 15% of this age group passed away; over 70 - 7% of this age group; over 60 - 4% of this group. So, 26% at extreme risk
So you can do the math. Projections 70-150m people out of 370m US population, 20-40% contract. Apply to village population and then take 26% of that.
I sincerely hope this blows over, but the plan should not be to sincerely hope this blows over.
For me, always assume the worst case scenario, and plan according
hollywoodz
03-12-2020, 06:01 AM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
I have read the comments to this post and find those that oppose Village officials from being more pro active in reducing social contacts to be not in touch with reality. Folks, it is predicted that over 1 million of us will get this virus. Folks, why are studio audiences being canceled with probably no more than a couple of hundred in attendance? Why is it that a major university now forbids gatherings of more than 100? Why is it that a major city is stopping gatherings of more than 250? We are told to avoid large gatherings, yet Village officials refuse to issue advisories to curtail large group gatherings at its own recreation centers, maybe some with hundreds in attendance. I have emails from a Village official to confirm this point! Those of you that want to take risks by being part of a gathering of seniors, many with pre-existing medical conditions just ripe for the virus, by all means continue you in your ways. That is quite foolish in my opinion, as is the Villages not being more proactive as the leading experts tell us. Oh, go ahead and continue to hug and shake hands too, just like the president and vice-president say they intend to keep on doing-you know, the ones that have been misleading us from the get-go about this crisis! As well, we are all exposed to this disease, particularly since the testing for it, so far, has been abysmal. I'd rather be safe than sorry at this point, so if Village officials won't lead the way, I will.
kenoc7
03-12-2020, 06:17 AM
The NBA took the action it did because a Utah player tested positive.
noslices1
03-12-2020, 06:32 AM
Cheapass, your math is a little suspect. 15% over 80, 7% over 70 and 4% over 60 does not equal 26% of the population in The Villages. You have to “average” those three and that would equal a little over 8%, not 26%.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 06:34 AM
Cheapass, your math is a little suspect. 15% over 80, 7% over 70 and 4% over 60 does not equal 26% of the population in The Villages. You have to “average” those three and that would equal a little over 8%, not 26%.
And even those percentages do not account for the cases that are asymptomatic or mild and never tested, which lowers the mortality rate considerably
Texased
03-12-2020, 06:35 AM
I have read the comments to this post and find those that oppose Village officials from being more pro active in reducing social contacts to be not in touch with reality. Folks, it is predicted that over 1 million of us will get this virus. Folks, why are studio audiences being canceled with probably no more than a couple of hundred in attendance? Why is it that a major university now forbids gatherings of more than 100? Why is it that a major city is stopping gatherings of more than 250? We are told to avoid large gatherings, yet Village officials refuse to issue advisories to curtail large group gatherings at its own recreation centers, maybe some with hundreds in attendance. I have emails from a Village official to confirm this point! Those of you that want to take risks by being part of a gathering of seniors, many with pre-existing medical conditions just ripe for the virus, by all means continue you in your ways. That is quite foolish in my opinion, as is the Villages not being more proactive as the leading experts tell us. Oh, go ahead and continue to hug and shake hands too, just like the president and vice-president say they intend to keep on doing-you know, the ones that have been misleading us from the get-go about this crisis! As well, we are all exposed to this disease, particularly since the testing for it, so far, has been abysmal. I'd rather be safe than sorry at this point, so if Village officials won't lead the way, I will.
When, not if, the first case hits The Villages you will see a complete shutdown here but until that time money is the only reality that drives the officials.
Mrs. Heck
03-12-2020, 06:47 AM
Some replies miss the larger point. Yes, avoiding the crowds will protect you. But having infected persons within those crowds will spread the virus wider, quicker, and more will be infected. More will need a hospital that is already at capacity. More will die. TV is full of old folks with health conditions already.
wsachs
03-12-2020, 07:01 AM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
As of early March, the coronavirus outbreak had infected more than 100,000 people and killed more than 3,000 globally, the majority in China, where the illness was first detected in December. More than 750 people in the United States have been diagnosed, including at least 25 people who have died.
By comparison, influenza — known as the common flu — has infected as many as 45 million Americans since October and killed as many as 46,000, according to estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Bonnevie
03-12-2020, 07:05 AM
even if coronavirus rate of mortality is "only" 1%, that's 10 times the rate of the flu. coronavirus a is a novel virus....we have no built up immunity from past exposures. there is no shot as there is for the flu. the constant comparison to the flu is causing a false sense of security to some.
stadry
03-12-2020, 07:06 AM
seems to me tv folks're in a higher risk group than general population when we consider avg age & health status,,, that being my theory, can we anticipate opportunities to buy deceased homeowners' properties to increase arithmetically OR geometrically ?
most of the medical advice seems common sense - 'use your head !' there often is a lack of it especially when confronting the herd mentality
Drdoug49
03-12-2020, 07:14 AM
TV owners have to take protective action based on CDC guidelines. Most TV people still think it’s no big deal
PugMom
03-12-2020, 07:19 AM
there is a population in the Villages, of which i am one, who believe this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion for whatever reason. i'm not taking any special precautions. i continue to go about my business which includes shaking hands & greeting new people. if for some reason i should become ill, i'll heal up the way i did with any other flu. it is what it is.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 07:20 AM
even if coronavirus rate of mortality is "only" 1%, that's 10 times the rate of the flu. coronavirus a is a novel virus....we have no built up immunity from past exposures. there is no shot as there is for the flu. the constant comparison to the flu is causing a false sense of security to some.
Not necessarily true. According to DNA/RNA sequencing, all of our "modern" coronaviruses (swine, bird, SARS, MERS) are direct descendants of the 1918-1919 Spanish flu virus, so there will be some degree of "herd immunity", in addition to natural immunity from B cell histocompatibility testing within our own lymphatic and reticuloendothelial systems
SnowflakeinDeLaVista
03-12-2020, 07:22 AM
So many people are making good points here. Each of us bears a personal responsibility to ourselves and those we interact with—yes. Our public officials also have a responsibility to act on our behalf. This is a virus that may not show symptoms for some time, so can be spread across a wide range before we know it. Many say it isnot here so why be inconvenienced? Well, how do you know it isn’t on our doorstep? There are not enough tests to know where it really is. We are being discouraged from wearing masks even though the primary means of spreading is by touching your mouth— because there is a fear there will not be enough masks for health care workers. What does that tell us? Venues in the villages are open because of financial concerns NOT public safety concerns. If this virus grabs villagers there will be lots of houses on the market next spring, I’m afraid.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 07:23 AM
A question posted anonymously: Do some posters that have "dr" in their user name actually have a medical degree and if so, in what specialty?
Joanne19335
03-12-2020, 07:28 AM
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility? Disney is still open, movie theaters are still open, Broadway theaters are still open, restaurants are still open, and here, the squares and all the stores and restaurants are also open. Self quarantine is an option if you are concerned (assuming you can find toilet paper). Minor league baseball continues, NASCAR continues, Olympic trials continue so not sure "the rest of the sports world" is with the NBA and college basketball. That may change but asking government to take charge of my life is not anywhere near my wheelhouse.
You don’t seem to be taking this pandemic quite serious enough. Yesterday a gentleman walked into a pro shop To check in and announced that he had just returned from Italy. He was coughing and wiping his nose. I think we all should be concerned since we are in a most vulnerable age group here in The Villages. Although you may not like government interference in your life, it is very important that you follow the guidelines that they have suggested. Not to do so would be foolish and selfish. Frankly, I am hoping that many of the concerts scheduled in the very near future are canceled. It is just a matter of time before Sumter county is affected. We do not live in a “bubble.“ Wake up, sir or madam.
danglanzsr
03-12-2020, 07:35 AM
The villages is composed of vulnerable elderly people, yet we continue to have nightly entertainment at the squares, recreational centers do not have sanitizers in rooms, why not
Apparently people are stealing the sanitizers from the rec centers. They were there.
Drdoug49
03-12-2020, 07:43 AM
Desperate people steal sanitizers, tough times ahead. Hope Iam wrong. I have a Ph.D. Not an MD
Lil GTO
03-12-2020, 07:46 AM
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility? Disney is still open, movie theaters are still open, Broadway theaters are still open, restaurants are still open, and here, the squares and all the stores and restaurants are also open. Self quarantine is an option if you are concerned (assuming you can find toilet paper). Minor league baseball continues, NASCAR continues, Olympic trials continue so not sure "the rest of the sports world" is with the NBA and college basketball. That may change but asking government to take charge of my life is not anywhere near my wheelhouse.
This is exactly correct!
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 07:49 AM
You don’t seem to be taking this pandemic quite serious enough. Yesterday a gentleman walked into a pro shop To check in and announced that he had just returned from Italy. He was coughing and wiping his nose. I think we all should be concerned since we are in a most vulnerable age group here in The Villages. Although you may not like government interference in your life, it is very important that you follow the guidelines that they have suggested. Not to do so would be foolish and selfish. Frankly, I am hoping that many of the concerts scheduled in the very near future are canceled. It is just a matter of time before Sumter county is affected. We do not live in a “bubble.“ Wake up, sir or madam.
What course? IF that actually happened, it could be a real game changer, IF he was infected. We can expect the first cases here in 5-10 days, again IF that actually happened and IF he has COVID-19. He also would win this month's Darwin award.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 07:51 AM
Desperate people steal sanitizers, tough times ahead. Hope Iam wrong. I have a Ph.D. Not an MD
In virology? Microbiology? Or medieval French literature??? Sorry, couldn't help myself, it's just that you have some valid points and others that are a little bit in left field
riamd1954
03-12-2020, 07:53 AM
First of all the nba is coming on board a little late !! And the best thing was stopping any travel to and from China!! And now Europe!!
Bonnevie
03-12-2020, 07:54 AM
from Sumter County
https://www.districtgov.org/PdfUpload/2020-03-10%20COVID19%20Precautions%20Press%20Release.pdf
Villageswimmer
03-12-2020, 08:01 AM
there is a population in the Villages, of which i am one, who believe this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion for whatever reason. i'm not taking any special precautions. i continue to go about my business which includes shaking hands & greeting new people. if for some reason i should become ill, i'll heal up the way i did with any other flu. it is what it is.
Just my opinion and certainly not personal, but I think people who continue to shake hands are very selfish. If one doesn’t care about their own health, that’s their privilege but don’t pass germs on to others.
Why even wash your hands?
rzalla1
03-12-2020, 08:03 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you can't distort the math. If there were 100 people in each age group, there would be 26 cases in 300 people. That's less than 9%, not 26%.
Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com
03-12-2020, 08:04 AM
All that you have to fear is fear itself said eloquently by FDR, you don’t want to be exposed, stay home, the only chances that you have to contract this is contact with an individual that has it, currently there are no one with Corona Virus anywhere close to here. Live your life, but please let others live theirs as they choose, yes the Hospitals are on top of all the issues and if anyone is exposed there are procedures in place right now. Again don’t fuel the fears Our media is overdoing it and scaring people!!!! Just be cautious wash your hands often, maintain a bottle of alcohol based sanitizer in every vehicle and if female in your pocketbook, use it often!!!!!!!!! by the way masks are of no use unless you get an actual respirator
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 08:04 AM
Just my opinion and certainly not personal, but I think people who continue to shake hands are very selfish. If one doesn’t care about their own health, that’s their privilege but don’t pass germs on to others.
Why even wash your hands?
In that case, why even get within 100 yards of another person???? But I agree, handshaking is something that we should dispense with for now. Of course , if the person offering a hand is "selfish" then the person accepting it is "stupid"
karostay
03-12-2020, 08:04 AM
Ugg
caljeff
03-12-2020, 08:06 AM
Cancelling an event is also about controlling the "spread". In my view, one should not take cancellation policies as a personal affront, but attempts to take "control" of Covid-19.
Jus' sayin'
Cheapbas
03-12-2020, 08:08 AM
It was 26% of people over 60 who contracted the disease. But either % is too high.
My main point was “contain”, that word was used countless times in press Briefings yesterday
Koapaka
03-12-2020, 08:08 AM
And then you have idiots like this to worry about! People, BE CAREFUL AND BE THOUGHTFUL!!!!!
Passenger tests positive for coronavirus on JetBlue flight (https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-in-ny-passenger-on-jetblue-flight-from-jfk-tests-positive/)
Villageswimmer
03-12-2020, 08:11 AM
In that case, why even get within 100 yards of another person???? But I agree, handshaking is something that we should dispense with for now. Of course , if the person offering a hand is "selfish" then the person accepting it is "stupid"
The “100 yards” analogy to shaking hands is absurd. Huge difference, Doc.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 08:15 AM
The “100 yards” analogy to shaking hands is absurd. Huge difference, Doc.
Just a hyperbole on how far people would be willing to go to "socially distance" themselves
kens613
03-12-2020, 08:16 AM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
Stanford parent wrote and posted this. Very insightful...
It was posted on stsnford parents Facebook page.
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I am in Milan in the heart of the coronavirus red zone . I know we are all sick of hearing about it. I certainly am, but I wanted to share these thoughts because I feel like there is a lot of misinformation out there. Considering we've been in some form of lockdown for three weeks now (now drastic measures are being taken and we are quarantined at home), I feel like I've become somewhat of an expert on this. At least, this is my experience and what I've learned in these weeks.
We are fine physically (for now), but, mentally, quarantine conditions and the devastating news around us does take its toll. To anyone anywhere saying, “Hey, it’s just the flu” or “The flu causes more deaths per year,” STOP. The rate of transmission with coronavirus is much higher and none of us is vaccinated against it. Worse, it causes a type of pneumonia that can leave patients in intensive care for weeks. The idea that it only affects the elderly or those with immune disorders is also wrong.
No healthcare system in the world can handle the onslaught this virus brings with it, and we should not put our doctors and nurses in a position where they have to decide who gets the last bed in intensive care, who gets the last respirator.
The hospital down the road where my children were born has had to adopt a “selection protocol” whereby they decide who lives or dies, and this is something that hasn’t been enacted since World War II. As someone who has been mired in all of this since Feb. 24. I would just like to give some advice to anyone in the world in an area where coronavirus is starting to ramp up. First and foremost, you don’t necessarily need to hoard toilet paper but you should get stocked up on your prescriptions. Primary-care doctors are at great risk of being exposed to coronavirus, so if they are taken out of commission (and even once the madness reaches fever pitch), it makes it harder for you to get the things you need. Also, once this is widespread, medical offices, hospitals and pharmacies are not places you want to hang out.
Finally, we are all soldiers in this fight. The less we are out and about, moving around, the more this virus dies out. We may have to be inconvenienced or have to change our habits for a while, but our actions have a direct impact on the lives of everyone around us, with effects that are felt far and wide.
Michelle Schoenung, freelance journalist and translator living in Milan
jimmio
03-12-2020, 08:30 AM
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility? Disney is still open, movie theaters are still open, Broadway theaters are still open, restaurants are still open, and here, the squares and all the stores and restaurants are also open. Self quarantine is an option if you are concerned (assuming you can find toilet paper). Minor league baseball continues, NASCAR continues, Olympic trials continue so not sure "the rest of the sports world" is with the NBA and college basketball. That may change but asking government to take charge of my life is not anywhere near my wheelhouse.
One of THE most intelligent and concise replies I've ever read in this forum.
Thanks.
DecaturFargo
03-12-2020, 08:32 AM
Nice advice, but The Villages is in a unique position that is unique inthe world. We are more suseptible to the extreme cases, when it hits. I expect The Villages to inform us that yhe are enough test kits for anyone who needs to be tested, as well as hospital personnel trained and ready to care for people who contract the virus. THAT's what we need to hear.
Bonnevie
03-12-2020, 08:41 AM
All that you have to fear is fear itself said eloquently by FDR, you don’t want to be exposed, stay home, the only chances that you have to contract this is contact with an individual that has it, currently there are no one with Corona Virus anywhere close to here. Live your life, but please let others live theirs as they choose, yes the Hospitals are on top of all the issues and if anyone is exposed there are procedures in place right now. Again don’t fuel the fears Our media is overdoing it and scaring people!!!! Just be cautious wash your hands often, maintain a bottle of alcohol based sanitizer in every vehicle and if female in your pocketbook, use it often!!!!!!!!! by the way masks are of no use unless you get an actual respirator
this article explains why cancelled events can save lives.
Coronavirus US: How canceled classes and events and self-quarantines save lives, in one chart - Vox (https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation?fbclid=IwAR2PVb4UTbaoHS1QoSnkc-VwbRsl9Y9OojwDRbasUD-ngdI1IVmLkBcEBPo)
ALadysMom
03-12-2020, 08:43 AM
even if coronavirus rate of mortality is "only" 1%, that's 10 times the rate of the flu. coronavirus a is a novel virus....we have no built up immunity from past exposures. there is no shot as there is for the flu. the constant comparison to the flu is causing a false sense of security to some.
Unlike most seasonal flu and H1N1, Coronovirus (COVID-19) has no effective antiviral treatment drugs and Corona has had a lack of testing.
Undiagnosed illnesses means all of the statistics are understated. Both the numbers of those infected as well as those who have died have been under-reported. If someone had no positive diagnostic test and died at home, the cause of death would NOT have been reported as Coronovirus.
And why should we entrust our lives to China or Iran’s reports. They aren’t honest. They don’t want the economic issues and panic so why wouldn’t they report less infections and deaths?
PLEASE Use your own best judgment to protect yourself. If you get sick, ONE will be the only number you’ll care about. Denial increases your risk of exposure. And those who deny they are sick may inflict their illness on others.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 08:44 AM
Nice advice, but The Villages is in a unique position that is unique inthe world. We are more suseptible to the extreme cases, when it hits. I expect The Villages to inform us that yhe are enough test kits for anyone who needs to be tested, as well as hospital personnel trained and ready to care for people who contract the virus. THAT's what we need to hear.
We're not all that unique. We are one of many 55+ retirement communities in Florida and other states. And since the treatment at this time is purely supportive, medical personnel don't need any special training
ALadysMom
03-12-2020, 08:49 AM
Some replies miss the larger point. Yes, avoiding the crowds will protect you. But having infected persons within those crowds will spread the virus wider, quicker, and more will be infected. More will need a hospital that is already at capacity. More will die. TV is full of old folks with health conditions already.
If 1% death rate is accurate then that’s 3.3 million Americans who would die.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 09:04 AM
If 1% death rate is accurate then that’s 3.3 million Americans who would die.
Ridiculous That assumes 100% of the population gets infected. Get real and stop adding to the panic
nisaalf
03-12-2020, 09:11 AM
I'm with you Mrs. Heck 100% percent!!
ALadysMom
03-12-2020, 09:13 AM
All that you have to fear is fear itself said eloquently by FDR
That was from a man (FDR) who had POLIO—a communicable illness that had no vaccine nor treatment at the time he contracted it.
He was not referring to a virulent communicable illness when he said that.
Since he personally suffered lifelong after-effects, I doubt FDR would have been cavalier about viral illnesses.
JanetMM
03-12-2020, 09:17 AM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
Let me know when public schools close. That is the true litmus test on what the government considers safe. Not saying if it is right or not. Just what government thinks is safe or not. Hey, just saying.
Pematson3
03-12-2020, 09:18 AM
you are welcome to self quarantine.When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
ALadysMom
03-12-2020, 09:21 AM
Not necessarily true. According to DNA/RNA sequencing, all of our "modern" coronaviruses (swine, bird, SARS, MERS) are direct descendants of the 1918-1919 Spanish flu virus, so there will be some degree of "herd immunity", in addition to natural immunity from B cell histocompatibility testing within our own lymphatic and reticuloendothelial systems
Didn’t keep my son from becoming seriously ill from H1N1 and did not keep my cousins 24 year old healthy daughter from dying from seasonal flu type B in 2018.
herd immunity did not help them.
It will matter a lot more to you if it infects you or someone you love.
When I hear about annual flu deaths I always think that one of those was her.
Drdoug49
03-12-2020, 09:29 AM
South Korea took drastic action and cut the spread. We all give up certain liberties , we use seatbelts because it’s mandated by federal law. It’s called living in civilization
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 09:30 AM
Didn’t keep my son from becoming seriously ill from H1N1 and did not keep my cousins 24 year old healthy daughter from dying from seasonal flu type B in 2018.
herd immunity did not help them.
It will matter a lot more to you if it infects you or someone you love.
When I hear about annual flu deaths I always think that one of those was her.
And flu vaccine isn't 100% effective, and not every storm ends with a rainbow, and bad things happen to good people. Was there a point in there, since the post shows a complete lack of understanding of immunity and epidemics. Basically, the post is what the media does all the time---find the worst case, or the worst outcome of anything and feature that on the news, even if it's the minority result
JanetMM
03-12-2020, 09:31 AM
All that you have to fear is fear itself said eloquently by FDR, you don’t want to be exposed, stay home, the only chances that you have to contract this is contact with an individual that has it, currently there are no one with Corona Virus anywhere close to here. Live your life, but please let others live theirs as they choose, yes the Hospitals are on top of all the issues and if anyone is exposed there are procedures in place right now. Again don’t fuel the fears Our media is overdoing it and scaring people!!!! Just be cautious wash your hands often, maintain a bottle of alcohol based sanitizer in every vehicle and if female in your pocketbook, use it often!!!!!!!!! by the way masks are of no use unless you get an actual respirator
In one sense wearing a mask as a preventative of catching the disease is true. however it is a good reminder to keep your hands away from your face. So in that sense wearing any type of mask can aid some people
Drdoug49
03-12-2020, 09:34 AM
Good point about masks. If masks didn’t protect you, why do healthcare workers wear them?
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 09:37 AM
Good point about masks. If masks didn’t protect you, why do healthcare workers wear them?
To prevent them from spreading anything to the patient. Would like your surgeon not to wear a mask???? BTW, I have this strange sense of deja vu since I've answered this about 4 times
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-12-2020, 09:41 AM
Good point about masks. If masks didn’t protect you, why do healthcare workers wear them?
Because a) they spend 8-14 hours every DAY very physically close to, and touching, and being breathed on, coughed on, spit on, sneezed on, slobbered on, and bled on by sick people and the risk of catching ANYTHING from sick people is so preposterously high compared to the average housewife at the supermarket, it's ridiculous to even ask the question.
and b) because they should not be spreading THEIR germs to their patients, even if they're not sick with an illness. Everyone - including healthy doctors - harbors bacteria in their mouths, noses, on their skin, in their pores, in their digestive systems, in the fluids of their eyeballs. Exhaled breath contains microscopic specks of bacteria. Most of it is benign. But combined with someone who is deathly ill, in the hospital, and your patient, it could be a death sentence.
Those two reasons are why hospital staff wear masks in hospitals. Just the question itself is - insanely ridiculous.
It's like asking why you don't carry an air compressor in your car, but auto mechanics keep one in their shops all the time.
Windguy
03-12-2020, 09:44 AM
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility?
Well, yes and no. People spent good money on those tickets and I guess many would like (expect?) a refund. But that sort of thing might make a business go under, too. From my perspective, I would prefer places like the Sharon survive the pandemic and still be there when the coast is clear. I really feel sorry for the small businesses and restaurants and their employees. We retirees might see our retirement accounts take a temporary hit, but people like servers are really going to be hurting. If you do go out to eat, tip well!
Silver Streak
03-12-2020, 09:57 AM
We were supposed to go see the band America in Orlando a week from Sunday. (I have a writer friend whose husband is in the band and she got us tickets). She just let me know America has canceled its whole tour because of Coronavirus. A band member (not her husband) was at the same large event in Australia that Tom Hanks and his wife attended. (You've probably seen that they're now stuck in Australia because they both tested positive?) That'll be a TON of refunded tickets and both the band and the venues (LOTS of venues, WAY bigger than any in The Villages) will lose a ton of money. That's what happens when you have a pandemic. Better lost money than lost lives.
We have NO way of knowing how many cases are already here in The Villages because THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY TESTING here yet. This disease has a long incubation period, up to 14 days, when people can spread it without symptoms. We have an unusually vulnerable population here with the vast majority over 55. It's absolutely nuts to assume we can just ignore this and it will go away. Sure, it's a nice thought, but it's one that's likely to kill a lot more people here than necessary.
Apparently people are stealing the sanitizers from the rec centers. They were there.
I was told yesterday at one of our rec centers that the hand sanitizers were being stolen so they keep them behind the desk, but they still have them there for us.
Joanne and Mike
03-12-2020, 10:04 AM
We are not immune here in the Villages. Anyone who recently returned from a cruise through Port Everglades needs to be especially cautious. Broward County has declared a State of Emergency after the 3rd Port Everglades employee (now 4) tested positive for COVID-19. They are employed by Metro Cruise Services. This company is responsible for guiding people off cruise ships and providing other guest services.
it can be difficult to find information specific to Florida. The Florida Department of Health has a page, updated daily, that provides statistics by county, by age. Here is the link: COVID-19 | Florida Department of Health (http://www.floridahealth.gov/diseases-and-conditions/COVID-19)
WalkerLoop
03-12-2020, 10:10 AM
There will be a number of cancellations announced this afternoon. Don't know how broad they will be but there will be cancellations until March 22nd.
Bonnevie
03-12-2020, 10:20 AM
And flu vaccine isn't 100% effective, and not every storm ends with a rainbow, and bad things happen to good people. Was there a point in there, since the post shows a complete lack of understanding of immunity and epidemics. Basically, the post is what the media does all the time---find the worst case, or the worst outcome of anything and feature that on the news, even if it's the minority result
but if it happens to you, who cares if your are in the minority. the poster wasn't claiming to be an expert in epidemics and immunity, but shared personal experiences as is his or her right. I understand you are a physician but that does not mean everyone else can not read what the experts are saying.
have you read the reports in Italy about how the hospitals are unable to keep up with serious cases and running out of ICU beds and have to make decisions on who gets a respirator, that younger people are not coming in as critical?
we can "flatten the curve" by choosing to avoid large functions. we don't need to panic, but it's like when a hurricane threatens and then turns away at the last minute. People complain that all the preparations were unnecessary but it's a matter of "hope for the best but prepare for the worse".
Don Wilson
03-12-2020, 10:55 AM
Didn't your real estate agent explain to you that The Villages is GOD's waiting room?
papixie
03-12-2020, 11:01 AM
It’s not only about you . It’s about the safety of others. Some people will go to these events get the virus snd then spread it to others who chose not to go. That’s why mandatory closings are in effect.
golfing eagles
03-12-2020, 11:17 AM
but if it happens to you, who cares if your are in the minority. the poster wasn't claiming to be an expert in epidemics and immunity, but shared personal experiences as is his or her right. I understand you are a physician but that does not mean everyone else can not read what the experts are saying.
have you read the reports in Italy about how the hospitals are unable to keep up with serious cases and running out of ICU beds and have to make decisions on who gets a respirator, that younger people are not coming in as critical?
we can "flatten the curve" by choosing to avoid large functions. we don't need to panic, but it's like when a hurricane threatens and then turns away at the last minute. People complain that all the preparations were unnecessary but it's a matter of "hope for the best but prepare for the worse".
No, the poster was extrapolating 2 personal experiences to the population as a whole, which is a fallacy. No, "herd immunity" and histocompatibility antibody testing is not going to save many, my point was that there is always some immunity running around to these viruses. It's an epidemic---resources may get exhausted and people will die, period. Hard choices may have to be made, we cannot control the trajectory of this pandemic, but we can mitigate it somewhat.
There are 5 or 6 coronavirus threads (and one carona virus thread. My problem with them is that this is a serious, and potentially very serious public health threat. However, about 1/2 of the posts are purely political in nature, 20% are ignorant, 20 % are irrelevant and God only knows what the rest are. Add to that the overlay of out of control media hype so that now you can't find a roll of TP.
People, just turn off the TV, ignore the political pundits, and follow what the CDC and the Florida DOH state. They may be conservative with their recommendations, but they are not "lying" or "hiding" the truth
eschiavo
03-12-2020, 11:27 AM
It’s only a matter of time until the virus hits our Villages. Catastrophic when it does. The Villages should start taking precautions now. With over 140,000 residents many will be infected...too late to take public precautions once the break out occurs. Good luck everyone. World health has called it pandemic....occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exceptionally high proportion of the population...again it’s just a matter of time.
RedChariot
03-12-2020, 11:38 AM
When, not if, the first case hits The Villages you will see a complete shutdown here but until that time money is the only reality that drives the officials.
You just hit the nail on the head! How unfortunate for all of us.
twoplanekid
03-12-2020, 12:00 PM
My wife who spends two days a week helping a teacher in the classroom received this today->
Wildwood Volunteers Canceled Week of March 16, 2020
Tutors for Kids received the following information from Mr. Temple, principal of Wildwood Elementary School:
"We are asking all volunteers not to come in next week (3/16-3/20).
This is only precautionary, there are no known cases in Sumter at this time.
Please let all our tutors know, our staff is working to make sure we take all precautions to keep everyone healthy and safe."
You may also hear from your teacher and STC but we'd rather you receive this information several times than miss anyone. We will keep you informed if there are updates.
blueash
03-12-2020, 01:00 PM
I "overheard a conversation in a bar" that the Sumter county health department director has for several days been trying to get the Family to issue orders to stop large group events. And that the Family is beginning to see the wisdom of that action. It is not going to be a good look if the virus hits here hard and it turns out that public health had asked the Family to be proactive and instead they felt it was dollars over disease prevention. It may turn out that the compromise will be that the health department, if the state allows, will issue the edict and then the Family will be able to say, we didn't stop you from having fun, it was the government.
dewilson58
03-12-2020, 01:01 PM
I "overheard a conversation in a bar" that the Sumter county health department director has for several days been trying to get the Family to issue orders to stop large group events. And that the Family is beginning to see the wisdom of that action. It is not going to be a good look if the virus hits here hard and it turns out that public health had asked the Family to be proactive and instead they felt it was dollars over disease prevention. It may turn out that the compromise will be that the health department, if the state allows, will issue the edict and then the Family will be able to say, we didn't stop you from having fun, it was the government.
I will ask my postman's cousin barber to confirm.
70 Challenger
03-12-2020, 01:18 PM
I agree with those who want to make their own decisions. Any one afraid of catching it stay at home and just don’t go out. As for me, I am going to continue enjoying my life, as we all have go at some point.
mollyb
03-12-2020, 01:26 PM
You nailed it.
mollyb
03-12-2020, 01:34 PM
You nailed it!
Drdoug49
03-12-2020, 01:36 PM
Your on your own here, people still grabbing door handles with bare hands to open them, not covering their mouths when they cough, social Darwinism at work
mollyb
03-12-2020, 01:38 PM
Personal responsibility. I carry small amount of hand sanitizer with me when out
dwhite5773
03-12-2020, 02:28 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
So let’s not cancel events, all the people who just returned from cruises return and go to Savannah Center, etc. Other unsuspecting guest go, now they contract the virus. 5-7 days later, boom and away it goes! Yes, I agree you control your own destiny, but now you’ve just continued the cycle in a very susceptible population!! Why has the president banned travel to Europe, most every governor asked for bans of gatherings over 250, NBA, NCAA canceled or suspended play! YES, activities in the VILLAGES SHOULD BE SUSPENDED until clear!
Bonnevie
03-12-2020, 04:41 PM
it's starting to happen. trivia tomorrow night has been cancelled. also, a meeting on Sat.
Villageswimmer
03-12-2020, 05:05 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
After reviewing the new study wrt how long COVID-19 remains active on surfaces, I couldn’t agree more. And, yet, there are some here who think, for example, it’s ok to shake hands. Incredible.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-12-2020, 05:11 PM
So let’s not cancel events, all the people who just returned from cruises return and go to Savannah Center, etc. Other unsuspecting guest go, now they contract the virus. 5-7 days later, boom and away it goes! Yes, I agree you control your own destiny, but now you’ve just continued the cycle in a very susceptible population!! Why has the president banned travel to Europe, most every governor asked for bans of gatherings over 250, NBA, NCAA canceled or suspended play! YES, activities in the VILLAGES SHOULD BE SUSPENDED until clear!
He hasn't banned travel to Europe. He has banned travel FROM Europe, except for the UK, for anyone who isn't a US Citizen. And US Citizens coming FROM a trip abroad have to be screened before being given re-entry.
Sandy and Ed
03-12-2020, 06:10 PM
Actually broadway is now closed, and so is Disney in california.
Bjeanj
03-12-2020, 06:16 PM
I agree with those who want to make their own decisions. Any one afraid of catching it stay at home and just don’t go out. As for me, I am going to continue enjoying my life, as we all have go at some point.
I agree that if you are concerned, just stay home.
Curtisbwp
03-12-2020, 06:18 PM
Why oh why would any intellegent person even consider waiting for a responce from any gonernment to keep them safe? We have an over abundance of information on the virus. .you should take your health into your hands.
billethkid
03-12-2020, 06:20 PM
Since TV is involved one way or another in most things entertainment and group oriented, they cannot do just this one or that one. The criteria for closing one would dictate they close everything.
Must be Disney World and the other FL theme parks are owned/by by the greedy bad guys....they are all still open.
I am truly amazed at the number of people who are more upset about their plans being TEMPORARILY interrupted than they are about supporting the reasons why to help reduce the threat.
They actually refuse to accept the reality of the health crisis we are in.
Inconsiderate and complete lack of common sense....in my humble opinion.
manaboutown
03-12-2020, 06:27 PM
I am now seeing the new policies TV is administering turning up in FB posts of The Daily Sun.
twoplanekid
03-12-2020, 06:42 PM
District Staff has alerted all CDD boards whose meetings were scheduled for next week that those board meetings will be canceled. Next week a decision for the cancelation of more board meeting for the following week will be made based on the events that might dictate more changes.
npmcnmom
03-12-2020, 06:49 PM
We can make our own decisions about going to the movies, shows, restaurants etc. but what about the pools? Do we have people cleaning the loungers, wiping the hand rails? I think not, it’s time to be concerned and protect our neighbors!!!
SamsClub, Walmart , Publix, Winn Dixie need to ration the wipes, toilet paper and water for the people who live here in The Villages!
twoplanekid
03-12-2020, 07:06 PM
District Staff has alerted all CDD boards whose meetings were scheduled for next week that those board meetings will be canceled. Next week a decision for the cancelation of more board meeting for the following week will be made based on the events that might dictate more changes.
more important information is found on the district web page -> Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/)
please read this latest information!
600th Photo Sq
03-12-2020, 07:11 PM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
For me this is over reaction to the extreme ! I realize the serious of this however, the media and people like yourself is fueling panic.
That is not healthy, it only leads to self survival. I shake my head on what is going on, stay calm this will go away in a very short period of time.
Panic is not good try to relax, turn off the news in particular CNN, tune into the BBC, and atleast get what is really going on. And....:pray:
Lindsyburnsy
03-12-2020, 07:17 PM
Are you sure?
Velvet
03-12-2020, 07:24 PM
Unlike most seasonal flu and H1N1, Coronovirus (COVID-19) has no effective antiviral treatment drugs and Corona has had a lack of testing.
Undiagnosed illnesses means all of the statistics are understated. Both the numbers of those infected as well as those who have died have been under-reported. If someone had no positive diagnostic test and died at home, the cause of death would NOT have been reported as Coronovirus.
And why should we entrust our lives to China or Iran’s reports. They aren’t honest. They don’t want the economic issues and panic so why wouldn’t they report less infections and deaths?
PLEASE Use your own best judgment to protect yourself. If you get sick, ONE will be the only number you’ll care about. Denial increases your risk of exposure. And those who deny they are sick may inflict their illness on others.
I agree. Born in a European country under Communism where the government was your direct enemy, I am suspicious of the extent of government’s “good will” anywhere. I take what they say “under advisement” but it is up to each one of us to look after our own well being. With this virus, to make sure that we survive it. The stakes are as high as they can get. Since there is no known antidote or treatment at this time, it can be our lives.
So those of you who like to play Russian roulette, good luck to you. I prefer a little caution myself.
Velvet
03-12-2020, 07:34 PM
To prevent them from spreading anything to the patient. Would like your surgeon not to wear a mask???? BTW, I have this strange sense of deja vu since I've answered this about 4 times
Yes, thank you I didn’t realize that before.
Velvet
03-12-2020, 07:52 PM
Your on your own here, people still grabbing door handles with bare hands to open them, not covering their mouths when they cough, social Darwinism at work
Or perhaps just old habits, at our social a few days ago (yes, I went) even though we were warned in an email we will not be shaking hands, the first thing I did when introduced to our president is shake her hand. Realizing my faut pas I immediately offered her a sterilizing wipe I carry in my purse everywhere always from flying frequently. She had her own. After that we just sort of kicked feet as greetings.
Kstastny
03-12-2020, 08:18 PM
The Sharon and the Savannah do not have large numbers attending like NBA games. Please don’t cancel shows at these venues.
Well they just did, 40 minutes before the curtain at the Savannah center.
It is my understanding that the decision was made early in the day, but nobody was notified, including the cast.
As many of us do, we go to dinner prior to a show so Glenview, Lopez, Palmer and many local restaurants were packed, apparently that's not a risk. Instead at 6 22 the email of the closing was sent via the Villages box office email list and the cast was told only AFTER they were dressed and ready to perform, remember the decision was made earlier in the day.
They could have given us notice of closing effective say Friday and if you are worried you can get a refund if you chose to not attend, that would have given them some liability relief.
So they kept all country club restaurants open (profit motivation?) with no concern for our safety.
Poor planning and inappropriate timing.
Tomorrow I am playing golf and having lunch at a Country Club restaurant, I guess that is of no concern for safety.
kcrazorbackfan
03-12-2020, 08:55 PM
Well they just did, 40 minutes before the curtain at the Savannah center.
It is my understanding that the decision was made early in the day, but nobody was notified, including the cast.
As many of us do, we go to dinner prior to a show so Glenview, Lopez, Palmer and many local restaurants were packed, apparently that's not a risk. Instead at 6 22 the email of the closing was sent via the Villages box office email list and the cast was told only AFTER they were dressed and ready to perform, remember the decision was made earlier in the day.
They could have given us notice of closing effective say Friday and if you are worried you can get a refund if you chose to not attend, that would have given them some liability relief.
So they kept all country club restaurants open (profit motivation?) with no concern for our safety.
Poor planning and inappropriate timing.
Tomorrow I am playing golf and having lunch at a Country Club restaurant, I guess that is of no concern for safety.
You can start by pulling your big person pants up and start making rational decisions about your life and not waiting on a profit driven entity to tell you whether to stay home or not.
I played golf today with our Thursday group and rode solo because I didn't know where the people in my group had been or who they had been around. I didn't stay and eat afterwards because I didn't know where the masses of people had been or who they had been around.
Trust your instincts.
kittygilchrist
03-12-2020, 11:05 PM
It is not if it is when CV cases will be in The Villages. We are kidding ourselves to think otherwise. The virus is exploding exponentially in cities. If we keep rubbing noses here, we will be in the same situation. Please stay home. Period. If you MUST go out, act like everybody has the plague and is trying to give it to you. Be ok with awkward situations, letting people down, looking foolish or unmanly. Florida is just getting started and To think we might not have it in The Villages is magical thinking. Trump had that problem when he shook hands with Brazilian Pres Bolsonaro and his aide last weekend. The aide tests positive, Bolsonaro is quarantined and thankfully the WH is now closed. Rick Scott met them too and is quarantined. How many public servants could Trump and Scott have possibly infected since then? This is not time for playing as usual. Floridatoday.com has a picture of the large crowd that met at Maralago, date 3/12. Johns Hopkins provides a coronavirus map and stats that will pop your eyeballs. Good. Let’s wake up.
Drdoug49
03-13-2020, 05:00 AM
Disney is now closed, when will TV follow the CDC and close gatherings of 250 people or more?
If there is an outbreak at TV, could the FAMILY be sued for billions because of negligence? Their risking every by their behavior
golfing eagles
03-13-2020, 05:39 AM
Disney is now closed, when will TV follow the CDC and close gatherings of 250 people or more?
If there is an outbreak at TV, could the FAMILY be sued for billions because of negligence? Their risking every by their behavior
Probably not, unless they abducted people and dragged them to a gathering of more than 250. Individuals can choose to stay home
PS: With a PhD, you should use they're and not their
merrymini
03-13-2020, 06:18 AM
Apparently, they are following the closure route which will have a staggering economic impact. You do not know if it was the right thing to do until it is all over and then you cannot prove a negative, so erring on the side of caution seems to be the rule here. I understand both sides but the media has lost it’s mind and is spreading panic. Not good.
Bay Kid
03-13-2020, 06:29 AM
1/2 the people that died from this virus died in the same location. How many have died from this virus? Most people have no idea. How many have died from the flue this year? Seems like someone is playing this.
thegfrerers@comcast.net
03-13-2020, 06:35 AM
Tv already cancelled craft fairs, Sharon and Savannah shows and many indoor rec activities
jswirs
03-13-2020, 06:58 AM
When will The Villages get on board with the rest of the world and cancel events at the Sharon, Savannah Center, and other events where large numbers of people gather in a confined area? Is the NBA and the rest of sports world the only organization who understand the serious nature of the Corona virus..
Again...What you fear you will attract! Just one more of the unwritten laws of the universe.
ladybugsmom
03-13-2020, 07:08 AM
They are starting to cancel events now. Quite a bit of an overreaction to everything. More people die of the flu, then of the coronavirus! Only three people have died in the whole state of Florida! Taking precautions, and taking care of ourselves, goes along way! Now I hear they’re closing schools for two weeks up in Ohio. Unbelievable!
TandHSTAR@AOL.com
03-13-2020, 07:24 AM
If you are concerned don't attend. Common sense. Why do you need authority to tell you to look out for yourself. If we close down the world who will collect garbage. Deliver goods from food to everything. Who will.pick up the money workers will lose if everything is closed. Will the bill collectors say it's ok we understand. Will the banks say we forgive your mortgage payments. Common sense if you are concerned do not go out see how long you can last. Do you have enough food etc. In the house for how long?
Windguy
03-13-2020, 07:47 AM
Cheapass, your math is a little suspect. 15% over 80, 7% over 70 and 4% over 60 does not equal 26% of the population in The Villages. You have to “average” those three and that would equal a little over 8%, not 26%.
Thank you, somewhat. My mathematical brain screamed in pain from that illogical math, but even yours is wrong. You have to take a weighted average. You have to multiply the percent who die by the percent each age group represents in the total population, sum them, and then divide by 100%.
Suppose only 100 people were over 60 and there were 7 billion under 60 and none of them die. The fraction of the population who die would be a tiny fraction of a percent. So, even 8% is wrong.
Windguy
03-13-2020, 07:55 AM
It was 26% of people over 60 who contracted the disease. But either % is too high.
My main point was “contain”, that word was used countless times in press Briefings yesterday
Still wrong.
Lisa Woodward
03-13-2020, 07:56 AM
All theme parks are closed. Need to update your info.
Cher1119
03-13-2020, 07:59 AM
Was announced this morning that all public and private schools in the entire state of Michigan be closed until sometime on April......that's as of now..due to the COVID-19 virus. I look for more states to follow.
Diverdave
03-13-2020, 08:24 AM
Again..........ridiculous..............the freaking sky is not falling people!
Steve
People are loosing their perspective and their minds about this darned virus. Take reasonable precautions, decide where you want to go and realize that life is a contact sport, wear a cup...
mikeritz53
03-13-2020, 08:42 AM
I agree with the personal responsibility, but Spring Training is cancelled, any gathering over 500 people in NYS is cancelled, Disney and Universal are shutting down after Sunday night, so please do not downplay the seriousness of this cirrnt event.
DonnaNi4os
03-13-2020, 08:42 AM
They have. I have tickets for tonight’s show featuring Trisha Yearwood at the Savannah Center tonight. It has been cancelled. Feel better now?
Carolynphelps
03-13-2020, 08:45 AM
They have! It’s in today’s newspaper.
Velvet
03-13-2020, 09:05 AM
If you are concerned don't attend. Common sense. Why do you need authority to tell you to look out for yourself. If we close down the world who will collect garbage. Deliver goods from food to everything. Who will.pick up the money workers will lose if everything is closed. Will the bill collectors say it's ok we understand. Will the banks say we forgive your mortgage payments. Common sense if you are concerned do not go out see how long you can last. Do you have enough food etc. In the house for how long?
Ah, if only common sense was common. Just look at the driving in the roundabouts.
Velvet
03-13-2020, 09:16 AM
As of early March, the coronavirus outbreak had infected more than 100,000 people and killed more than 3,000 globally, the majority in China, where the illness was first detected in December. More than 750 people in the United States have been diagnosed, including at least 25 people who have died.
By comparison, influenza — known as the common flu — has infected as many as 45 million Americans since October and killed as many as 46,000, according to estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
While we are at it, why not let us compare the death rate from the Corona virus to the death rate from the hydrogen bomb. The virus looks soooo much safer....
What difference does it make what other illnesses etc are like? We are talking about the dangers of this virus, for which we have nothing to defend ourselves from.
chewy
03-13-2020, 09:34 AM
In the past 24 hours ALL major sporting events have been cancelled as have theaters ,concert venues, schools, churches, amusement parks, schools, etc. With our Villages lifestyle many of us travel from our homes around the world. There is the possibility with a 14 incubation that right now there residents who have contracted the virus but do not know it. Add to that possibility of many out of state visitors now here or coming for spring break. Simply speaking I see a simple choice . Make you decision on restrictions but most importantly what is the worst case scenario for the choice you will make.
jarodrig
03-13-2020, 09:40 AM
If you're concerned don't go. Why do we always expect organizations or governments or corporations to usurp personal responsibility? Disney is still open, movie theaters are still open, Broadway theaters are still open, restaurants are still open, and here, the squares and all the stores and restaurants are also open. Self quarantine is an option if you are concerned (assuming you can find toilet paper). Minor league baseball continues, NASCAR continues, Olympic trials continue so not sure "the rest of the sports world" is with the NBA and college basketball. That may change but asking government to take charge of my life is not anywhere near my wheelhouse.
Check your facts as things have changed overnight and continue to change almost minute by minute....
rstert13
03-13-2020, 09:51 AM
Wrong. People who think they don't need government wind up needing it the most.
eschiavo
03-13-2020, 09:54 AM
Bill Gates video in 2015 predicted what is happening today all over the world. The government didn’t listen. He hit the virus outbreak right on the head.. Made 5 years ago who would think his prediction would happen 5 years later. Mind blowing. The Villages leaders should watch it take precautions now before it’s too late.
Why isn’t The Villages taking more precautions to protect us from The coronavirus ??? With so many massive closings, Disney parks, colleges, schools, businesses, nursing homes, professional sports, etc to prevent this virus from spreading we should be concerned we are not preparing TV to be safe. They expect this virus to multiply rapidly over the next few weeks killing many. We don’t want to be another Italy. If it could close down a country it could close The Villages because of our age group and Massive size
It will only take ONE positive case to spread here like wildfire. IT WILL BE CATASTROPHIC FOR ALL OF US.
We can’t escape it with 140,000 plus residents. It’s just a matter of time. It will be here !!! Our age group may not survive it as they say over 70 many will die like what is happening in the nursing homes. Most patients in our age group. Daily More and more cases now showing up in Florida.
Why not close the squares and Rec centers week to week. Yes, many don’t want this but they will close everything when the virus arrives. Will be too late for all of us. Closed for a few weeks or closed for months and quarantined possibility for months. Which do you prefer. WE are not going to escape this virus. !!!!
FYI: Did you know cardboard boxes hold the virus for 24 hours. Wash your hands immediately after opening any package. Also anything steel is a magnet for the virus germs and the virus lives for days. Yes, I research this virus daily for hours. Why? I am very concerned and scared for all our residents and myself.
Please no negative replies as I took the time to write this to help protect all of us. Thank you
Velvet
03-13-2020, 10:10 AM
Again...What you fear you will attract! Just one more of the unwritten laws of the universe.
I certainly hope so, if it takes fear before we take appropriate action.
To The Villages decision makers, glad to see action taken finally. Better safe than sorry.
I do feel for those who are economically impacted by the closures. My workers will continue to be compensated.
judithamorrison
03-13-2020, 11:55 AM
Disney is closed.
judithamorrison
03-13-2020, 11:58 AM
So is Broadway closed.
Two Bills
03-13-2020, 12:09 PM
Just my opinion and certainly not personal, but I think people who continue to shake hands are very selfish. If one doesn’t care about their own health, that’s their privilege but don’t pass germs on to others.
Why even wash your hands?
Shaking hands with the virus threat?
It's a bit like being gay.
Not for most, but fine among consenting adults!:icon_wink:
Mdesert
03-13-2020, 05:29 PM
Anyone know if the Brownwood market has been cancelled tomorrow?
eltingg
03-13-2020, 08:19 PM
The Villages and government needs to protect it's citizens...that is the purpose of government since individuals do not have the knowledge or capacity to make fact based decisions. Your attitude that you will take of yourself is how this virus spreads so rapidly since you do not have the knowledge to make good decisions.
Suzieque
03-13-2020, 09:03 PM
The governor of Wisconsin closed all schools today from March 18 - April 6th.
Suzieque
03-13-2020, 09:16 PM
Hope you're happy, it happened today. No St Patrick's celebration or music at the squares. Saturday craft fairs canceled.
Drdoug49
03-13-2020, 10:08 PM
Social distancing is the key to stopping this killer virus. The president has declared a national state of emergency , this is what I’ve been advocating to the virus deniers
golfing eagles
03-14-2020, 05:49 AM
Social distancing is the key to stopping this killer virus. The president has declared a national state of emergency , this is what I’ve been advocating to the virus deniers
Now that's one of the most sensible posts you've made:bigbow:
JerseyGirl.Blue
03-15-2020, 08:47 PM
Well said. Let's get ahead of this and avoid becoming quarantined. Be safe, and concerned about your neighbors.
kittygilchrist
03-15-2020, 09:29 PM
We are up to 155 cases in Florida. Thank God people here have gotten the hint.
Taltarzac725
03-15-2020, 09:53 PM
We are up to 155 cases in Florida. Thank God people here have gotten the hint.
It is a matter of when a case shows up in the Villages and not if. Are they even testing for it yet here?
Drdoug49
03-15-2020, 10:00 PM
Government exists to protect society. Yet the majority of TV people engage in self destructive behaviors like overeating, drinking alcohol, sedentary behavior with over reliance on TV golf carts that shorten their lives. Humans can be self destructive, we have to follow CDC guides before it’s too late
Pickbent
03-16-2020, 11:03 AM
Village residents evidently got serious about the virus-absurd panic buying at food markets, drugstores,etc. at same time, they ignore the six ft. Personal distance guideline!
Mendy
03-16-2020, 11:18 AM
Well worth the 20 minutes to read the following three articles that were recently published to learn more about why this is so important for us to do:
Flattening the Coronavirus Curve - The New York Times (https://nyti.ms/38SrKy7)
Coronavirus is past containment, but USA can limit scope of epidemic (http://bit.ly/38Qfyha)
Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium (http://bit.ly/2vjeiFA)
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