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alemorkam
03-18-2020, 11:27 AM
From the daily sun facebook page.

JUST IN: The first Villages resident has tested positive for COVID-19 at UF Health Leesburg Hospital. The case has been deemed travel-related. The Florida Department of Health has also confirmed the first case in Sumter County.

Chatbrat
03-18-2020, 11:38 AM
It would be great if we knew what Village the person lived in and where they traveled--its beginning--its going to be a rough ride

JoMar
03-18-2020, 11:57 AM
As testing becomes more available and done, the cases will increase. We don't know what we don't know but available testing will help us learn.

blueash
03-18-2020, 12:04 PM
The Daily Sun's facebook page may have more information than the Florida Dept of Health, but the Dept's website reports as of 11 AM today:

Sumter County, Florida
Total Cases: 1
Sumter Residents: 1
Sumter Residents Treated Elsewhere: 0
Non-Sumter Residents: 0

Demographics:
Men: 1
Women: 0
Age Range:


More Information:
Travel-Related Cases: 0
Known Contact with Case: 0
Note: A person can be both a travel-related case and a known contact case, just one of those, neither of those, or be pending investigation.

It does NOT list this case as travel related at this time.
Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

mariad
03-18-2020, 02:29 PM
It would be great if we knew what Village the person lived in and where they traveled--its beginning--its going to be a rough ride
We need to have any person in contact with this person to be tested. This should be a REQUIREMENT when a Villager has COVID19!!!!!!!!

Bucco
03-18-2020, 02:31 PM
To be accurate it is the Chinese Coronavirus, COVID-19.

From the OP...

"The first Villages resident has tested positive for COVID-19"

will1546
03-18-2020, 02:32 PM
Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

Up to date cases

Bonnie@bonniecook.com
03-18-2020, 02:38 PM
I agree

Currahee71
03-18-2020, 02:41 PM
So true. People hoarding TP and water...
Virus attacks the lungs not your intestines.

Dorothy51
03-18-2020, 02:41 PM
The person who has tested positive will be questioned by The Public Health Department and they will reach out to contact anyone who has been in contact with this person. This information is private and has no business being published in TOTV. If the person wishes to reveal themselves it is their business. If a recreation center, club or particular area has been involved that will be revealed by Health Department. Let’s not try and take over the job of the Health Department by spreading rumors or panicking. We should all just take advice for seniors given by CDC .

nututv
03-18-2020, 02:52 PM
Person gets Flu. News at 11. God I'm sick of all the hype.

Houselover
03-18-2020, 02:56 PM
Forget the politics. The virus is here. Let's concentrate on getting information that helps us all to fight this epidemic ..

Spalumbos62
03-18-2020, 02:57 PM
Why???

manaboutown
03-18-2020, 03:02 PM
From the OP...

"The first Villages resident has tested positive for COVID-19"

Larry Elder - Once upon a time, calling the Chinese... | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TakeBackThisCountry/photos/a.1032125603520777/2773947352671918/?type=3&theater)

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Bjeanj
03-18-2020, 03:03 PM
The person who has tested positive will be questioned by The Public Health Department and they will reach out to contact anyone who has been in contact with this person. This information is private and has no business being published in TOTV. If the person wishes to reveal themselves it is their business. If a recreation center, club or particular area has been involved that will be revealed by Health Department. Let’s not try and take over the job of the Health Department by spreading rumors or panicking. We should all just take advice for seniors given by CDC .

Good post.

DONKEY10
03-18-2020, 03:04 PM
Anyone realize there was a 5.7 earthquake in Utah this morning?

Joanne19335
03-18-2020, 03:06 PM
We need to have any person in contact with this person to be tested. This should be a REQUIREMENT when a Villager has COVID19!!!!!!!!

I understand everyone’s desire to know who this person is and which village he or she lives in. However, to reveal a name would be a violation under federal law. I doubt very much that HIPPA will be repealed since the federal government is still way behind the rest of the world in dealing with this virus.

gman13
03-18-2020, 03:21 PM
Finally a voice of reason. Publishing this persons personal information or even giving any hint of where they may live violates both Federal and State laws. I would be more concerned about all the people standing shoulder to shoulder at the "outdoor bars" in The Villages. That's a disaster waiting to happen. The Governor ordered ALL bars in the State of Florida to close and all restaurants to space their tables at least six feet apart. Apparently when you operate a restaurant with an outdoor bar you fit through the loop hole in the law, and that's very dangerous right now.

Dennis and Rose
03-18-2020, 03:24 PM
From the daily sun facebook page.

JUST IN: The first Villages resident has tested positive for COVID-19 at UF Health Leesburg Hospital. The case has been deemed travel-related. The Florida Department of Health has also confirmed the first case in Sumter County.

To the person who states we must know who this is?? Ever hear of HIPA laws.

Dennis and Rose
03-18-2020, 03:26 PM
HIPA laws. They cannot release the persons name. As it should be

perrjojo
03-18-2020, 03:27 PM
Anyone realize there was a 5.7 earthquake in Utah this morning?
Yes, and the airport is closed

rmd2
03-18-2020, 03:31 PM
So true. People hoarding TP and water...
Virus attacks the lungs not your intestines.

I agree people should not hoard water but one of the symptoms of CV is diarrhea.

carhirsch
03-18-2020, 03:32 PM
So true. People hoarding TP and water...
Virus attacks the lungs not your intestines.

I believe the toilet paper is in case of quarantine.

theruizs
03-18-2020, 04:12 PM
If they knew people would not panic and dip into “me first” mode, they might share more information about this case. But they know if they say a village, many in that village would start calling their doctor to get pre-screened for a test they don’t really need yet, possibly even lying about symptoms. I sure hope that doesn’t happen, but given the hoarding going on I would not bet on it. I imagine as the people this person came in contact with are notified, more info about it will eventually get out. Let’s be cautious but stay rational and think about the well being of all, not just ourselves.

fancy514
03-18-2020, 04:15 PM
The report said Sumter County. How do you know the person lives in The Villages?

BonitaB443162
03-18-2020, 04:19 PM
We need to have any person in contact with this person to be tested. This should be a REQUIREMENT when a Villager has COVID19!!!!!!!!

Would everybody please quit repeating that everyone should get the tested for COVID-19, so they can add to the blame on one person for there being limited numbers of kits?

Please read what Dr. Fauci said when speaking for himself on why everybody should not get tested, especially since the federal government cannot have 330 million test kits at this time.

I can't post a link as a new user, or I would.

Devan Cole, CNN
Updated 1553 GMT (2353 HKT) March 15, 2020

Washington (CNN) Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Sunday that he is not currently planning to get tested for coronavirus because he's not symptomatic and because he doesn't think every American should take a test.

"I'm not taking the test for a simple reason: I have no symptoms. I'm practicing pretty good social distancing," Fauci told CNN's Brianna Keilar on "State of the Union" after being asked if he was planning to be tested for the disease.

"Not everybody in the United States should take a test," Fauci said. "I mean I have no symptoms, there's no reason for me to take a test. If I'm in a situation where I'm at a higher risk, I will take a test."

gatorbill1
03-18-2020, 04:33 PM
My golfing buddy called me today and said he had flu like symtoms with a 100.3 temperature. Called his Dr who gave him health dept to call who said he is not in group that needs to be tested. What happened to anyone who wants it can be tested??
This is not political this is a serious health problem.

PugMom
03-18-2020, 04:36 PM
My golfing buddy called me today and said he had flu like symtoms with a 100.3 temperature. Called his Dr who gave him health dept to call who said he is not in group that needs to be tested. What happened to anyone who wants it can be tested??
This is not political this is a serious health problem.have the friend call the dr's office back & ask where do they go from here? better yet, see if they can get to 1 of those drive-up tents in various parking lots

Sandy and Ed
03-18-2020, 04:37 PM
The person who has tested positive will be questioned by The Public Health Department and they will reach out to contact anyone who has been in contact with this person. This information is private and has no business being published in TOTV. If the person wishes to reveal themselves it is their business. If a recreation center, club or particular area has been involved that will be revealed by Health Department. Let’s not try and take over the job of the Health Department by spreading rumors or panicking. We should all just take advice for seniors given by CDC .
Thank you. We don’t need to know. We will be notified as appropriate by those who have the job of doing so.

xcaligirl
03-18-2020, 04:43 PM
We need to have any person in contact with this person to be tested. This should be a REQUIREMENT when a Villager has COVID19!!!!!!!!
I agree!! How do they think they can control the spread if they don't want to tell the entire story!

DONS999
03-18-2020, 04:48 PM
Hey when I was in an iron lung in the early '50s with polio and our house was being quarantined

that was epidemic

When we get past the 17,000 death toll of the swine flu back in 2010 then maybe
" pandemic" and other terms can start to be used

xcaligirl
03-18-2020, 04:53 PM
The person who has tested positive will be questioned by The Public Health Department and they will reach out to contact anyone who has been in contact with this person. This information is private and has no business being published in TOTV. If the person wishes to reveal themselves it is their business. If a recreation center, club or particular area has been involved that will be revealed by Health Department. Let’s not try and take over the job of the Health Department by spreading rumors or panicking. We should all just take advice for seniors given by CDC .
I agree it's private however this is not a "personal health issue", this is a health issue that could involve a lot of people, If the person was at a Publix, Bealls, whatever restaurant, I think it is our business to know if we could've come in contact with him. If this person has only been in certain parts of the Villages then it's "none of my business" but a concern for the person or persons having it or getting the virus.

Marathon Man
03-18-2020, 05:03 PM
I agree it's private however this is not a "personal health issue", this is a health issue that could involve a lot of people, If the person was at a Publix, Bealls, whatever restaurant, I think it is our business to know if we could've come in contact with him. If this person has only been in certain parts of the Villages then it's "none of my business" but a concern for the person or persons having it or getting the virus.

If you were given the name, would you know if they passed you in the store?

golfing eagles
03-18-2020, 05:23 PM
My golfing buddy called me today and said he had flu like symtoms with a 100.3 temperature. Called his Dr who gave him health dept to call who said he is not in group that needs to be tested. What happened to anyone who wants it can be tested??
This is not political this is a serious health problem.

Ummmm---that was NEVER the case?????

BonitaB443162
03-18-2020, 05:23 PM
Hey when I was in an iron lung in the early '50s with polio and our house was being quarantined

that was epidemic

When we get past the 17,000 death toll of the swine flu back in 2010 then maybe
" pandemic" and other terms can start to be used

Sadly, you're talking to people who listen only to themselves and Dr. Google when claiming that vaccines (like polio vaccine) are more harm than good and therefore they do not get them....to the detriment of other innocent souls like school children.

golfing eagles
03-18-2020, 05:26 PM
I agree it's private however this is not a "personal health issue", this is a health issue that could involve a lot of people, If the person was at a Publix, Bealls, whatever restaurant, I think it is our business to know if we could've come in contact with him. If this person has only been in certain parts of the Villages then it's "none of my business" but a concern for the person or persons having it or getting the virus.

Doesn't matter, HIPPA is the current law

BonitaB443162
03-18-2020, 05:37 PM
My golfing buddy called me today and said he had flu like symtoms with a 100.3 temperature. Called his Dr who gave him health dept to call who said he is not in group that needs to be tested. What happened to anyone who wants it can be tested??
This is not political this is a serious health problem.

1. Nobody ever said "anyone who wants it can be tested".

2. Try Canada:

Carly Weeks, Health Reporter
Published March 12, 2020
Updated March 13, 2020
(REUTERS) Despite assurances from public health officials that coronavirus tests are widely available, some front-line physicians say they’re having trouble getting patients tested, creating potentially dangerous gaps that could leave Canada vulnerable to outbreaks.


www. theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-doctors-say-coronavirus-test-criteria-is-inconsistent-could-lead-to/

:)

Bucco
03-18-2020, 05:46 PM
1. Nobody ever said "anyone who wants it can be tested".

2. Try Canada:

Carly Weeks, Health Reporter
Published March 12, 2020
Updated March 13, 2020
(REUTERS) Despite assurances from public health officials that coronavirus tests are widely available, some front-line physicians say they’re having trouble getting patients tested, creating potentially dangerous gaps that could leave Canada vulnerable to outbreaks.


www. theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-doctors-say-coronavirus-test-criteria-is-inconsistent-could-lead-to/

:)

Hope you are kidding......first said on video on March 6...

““Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-18-2020, 05:53 PM
Doesn't matter, HIPPA is the current law

It's HIPAA. It stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act

ColdNoMore
03-18-2020, 06:02 PM
Forget the politics. The virus is here. Let's concentrate on getting information that helps us all to fight this epidemic ..

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

BRK1939
03-18-2020, 06:16 PM
You have to be kidding that this person should be kept anonymous ! This isn't a fun game we are playing, testing positive will be the death sentence for many Villagers. We should have ALL been isolated days ago. One gets the feeling that only Marshall law will bring home how serious this virus is to too many people having little concern for themselves or others of their species.

ColdNoMore
03-18-2020, 06:18 PM
Ummmm---that was NEVER the case?????

Hope you are kidding......first said on video on March 6...

““Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

In taking my own advice, I'm not going to point fingers as to why it was stated, but in the interest of the truth and accuracy...it WAS definitely said.

To verify and hear it, one only has to search using the phrase...“anyone who wants a test can get a test.” :shrug:

ColdNoMore
03-18-2020, 06:21 PM
It's HIPAA. It stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act

I thought everyone knew that by now? :oops:

Topspinmo
03-18-2020, 06:39 PM
It's HIPAA. It stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act

LOL can’t even get you’re personal health information without paying for it, basic keeps you’re health records from you, but insurance companies have free access.

dsnrbec
03-18-2020, 06:41 PM
I know for a fact that a person south of 466A off Hillsborough has tested positive and is currently hospitalized in The Villages

Boomer
03-18-2020, 06:42 PM
It's HIPAA. It stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act


Thank you, OBB. I was just getting ready to type the same thing.

Aaaaaaaaaaugh!! I do not usually correct people but this thread is makinmecrazy!!

And, while I’m at it, I might as well say everything I want to:

The population of TV includes every personality type imaginable. Most with common sense but most certainly quite a few control freaks along with those who seem like they keep dossiers because they are so damned nosy and intrusive.

Just imagine if the person’s name got out — Villagers showing up with torches and pitchforks?

Let the professionals in the system do their jobs.

Pogo was right!

Sincerely,
Grouchy Boomer

PS: Btw, if I owned this site, I would be sure that absolutely no identifying patient info shows up here.

TABOR8
03-18-2020, 06:49 PM
Absolutely right.

ColdNoMore
03-18-2020, 06:52 PM
Thank you, OBB. I was just getting ready to type the same thing.

Aaaaaaaaaaugh!! I do not usually correct people but this thread is makinmecrazy!!

And, while I’m at it, I might as well say everything I want to:

The population of TV includes every personality type imaginable. Most with common sense but most certainly quite a few control freaks along with those who seem like they keep dossiers because they are so damned nosy and intrusive.

Just imagine if the person’s name got out — Villagers showing up with torches and pitchforks?

Let the professionals in the system do their jobs.

Pogo was right!

Sincerely,
Grouchy Boomer

PS: Btw, if I owned this site, I would be sure the patient’s name, or any type of specifically identifying info, did not appear here — ever.

YEP! :thumbup:

manaboutown
03-18-2020, 06:59 PM
The Chinese Coronavirus has now gotten to a member of Congress, a Florida Representative no less. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart is first congressman to announce testing positive for coronavirus | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mario-diaz-balart-positive-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR0a1dQpzw2pLCfXv7YWfjnNZ0uwY BPrxjXA1wboAetJTc4EyAmrS_2UNMQ)

Aloha1
03-18-2020, 07:10 PM
As many so -called laws ( bureaucratic crud) have already been suspended, so should certain aspects of HIPAA. No names need to be released but where this person came from ( cruise, airline, etc) and how long they may have been infected need to be released for the greater good of the public. The last thing we want now is a group of unsuspecting carriers hanging out at City Fire or innocently shopping at Walmart unintentionally infecting others.

ColdNoMore
03-18-2020, 07:16 PM
As many so -called laws ( bureaucratic crud) have already been suspended, so should certain aspects of HIPAA. No names need to be released but where this person came from ( cruise, airline, etc) and how long they may have been infected need to be released for the greater good of the public. The last thing we want now is a group of unsuspecting carriers hanging out at City Fire or innocently shopping at Walmart unintentionally infecting others.

Seriously, at this point, why does ANY of that personal info...even matter? :oops:

Do what the authorities say and keep yourself away from others as much as humanly possible and it won't matter where/what/why...about anyone else. :ohdear:

rmd2
03-18-2020, 07:36 PM
This just in today:
A new study published in The American Journal of Gastroenterology reports that some people who get the coronavirus will experience digestive symptoms like diarrhea as a first sign of the virus.

eyc234
03-18-2020, 08:29 PM
As testing becomes more available and done, the cases will increase. We don't know what we don't know but available testing will help us learn.

:ohdear: Who do you test? How many times? If I get tested this week does it mean I have no worries? Will they have enough kits to test every citizen multiple times over the next few months? Not sure that testing is going to do anything more than identify some in are infected but does nothing to truly stop the spread because is it not too late at that point? Do not have answers but reality is testing is not going to stop or even possibly slow the virus.

eyc234
03-18-2020, 08:35 PM
This just in today:
A new study published in The American Journal of Gastroenterology reports that some people who get the coronavirus will experience digestive symptoms like diarrhea as a first sign of the virus.

:blahblahblah: So what kind of quote is this, some. Putting out these type of vague statements create panic and fear. If this truly came from a real medical journal they should be ashamed of putting this kind of fear and hysteria out there. Why has this not been mentioned by any other medical organization as a symptom to look for to identify this virus.

EdFNJ
03-18-2020, 08:55 PM
This just in today:
A new study published in The American Journal of Gastroenterology reports that some people who get the coronavirus will experience digestive symptoms like diarrhea as a first sign of the virus.

:blahblahblah: So what kind of quote is this, some. Putting out these type of vague statements create panic and fear. If this truly came from a real medical journal they should be ashamed of putting this kind of fear and hysteria out there. Why has this not been mentioned by any other medical organization as a symptom to look for to identify this virus.
Likely the comment is related to the hoarding of toilet paper. I actually heard it as well from a physician being interviewed on TV.

B767drvr
03-18-2020, 09:07 PM
This just in today:
A new study published in The American Journal of Gastroenterology reports that some people who get the coronavirus will experience digestive symptoms like diarrhea as a first sign of the virus.

Sorry to be argumentative... but NO, this is NOT just in. This has been known and PUBLISHED for many weeks as a symptom SOME report.

CFrance
03-18-2020, 10:49 PM
Why???
Why what? Please quote the post you're responding to.

karostay
03-19-2020, 06:07 AM
signing..... Its a small world after all....... It's a small small world

MOMOH
03-19-2020, 06:41 AM
Exactly right...if you know this person, and interacted with him, you will be contacted. If you are staying home, and following directives, you would not have interacted with him, and you have nothing to worry about. DUH!

kenoc7
03-19-2020, 07:08 AM
Person gets Flu. News at 11. God I'm sick of all the hype.

It isn't hype!

nututv
03-19-2020, 07:15 AM
Anyone realize there was a 5.7 earthquake in Utah this morning?

Not scary enough. It has no staying power. This flu thing will go on like the energizer bunny from all the wackos.

Hplaw
03-19-2020, 07:18 AM
You have to be kidding that this person should be kept anonymous ! This isn't a fun game we are playing, testing positive will be the death sentence for many Villagers. We should have ALL been isolated days ago. One gets the feeling that only Marshall law will bring home how serious this virus is to too many people having little concern for themselves or others of their species.

This is exactly why the need for privacy. People hoarding toilet paper and essentials from others shows just how human nature can play out. Imagine if a person is identified; panic, finger pointing, blame, burn them mentality will be rampant. We have been too healthy, wealthy and clueless for too long. Stay home....if you are lucky you won't get it. To retrace your steps for the last 2 weeks or LONGER would be impossible. No blame, this is new to everyone. Even your government.

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 07:42 AM
[QUOTE=Currahee71;1729569]So true. People hoarding TP and water...
Virus attacks the lungs not your intestines.[/QUOTE

COVID-19 Symptoms vary. Some people do have GI symptoms.

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 07:46 AM
Hey when I was in an iron lung in the early '50s with polio and our house was being quarantined

that was epidemic

When we get past the 17,000 death toll of the swine flu back in 2010 then maybe
" pandemic" and other terms can start to be used

Sorry for your suffering. Do you really want others to suffer like you did?

gregcharlesnelson@gmail
03-19-2020, 07:49 AM
how about pickelball? People sitting on a bench??

Bonnevie
03-19-2020, 07:52 AM
Person gets Flu. News at 11. God I'm sick of all the hype.

and yet here you are commenting on it. if you are truly sick of the hype, why not avoid these discussions?

SHerlick
03-19-2020, 07:57 AM
Let the panic begin. Keep calm and limit contact with others. Wash your hand and don't touch your face. Since you don't know who the patient is you have about 100,000 to 1 chance you even SAW this person.

skyking
03-19-2020, 08:00 AM
My golfing buddy called me today and said he had flu like symtoms with a 100.3 temperature. Called his Dr who gave him health dept to call who said he is not in group that needs to be tested. What happened to anyone who wants it can be tested??
This is not political this is a serious health problem.

Gatorbill1, Why would you want to be tested? If you have flu symptoms you are instructed to stay home, self quarantine and wait for your body to recover.

If you had a positive test you would be instructed to stay home, self quarantine and wait for your body to recover.

Unless you have life threatening complications, like difficulty breathing, the treatment is the same.

It is the "worried well" who will bring down our healthcare system.

Linnberg
03-19-2020, 08:03 AM
Hope you are kidding......first said on video on March 6...

““Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

Only said by 45. All other national health said please “only if you have symptoms and you traveled, and first line defenders, doctors nurses etc”
Once all of them tested then we can test more. Despite what our president says we still do not have anywhere enough testing available. Therefore self quarantine and wait until all the priority people are tested first.

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 08:08 AM
My golfing buddy called me today and said he had flu like symtoms with a 100.3 temperature. Called his Dr who gave him health dept to call who said he is not in group that needs to be tested. What happened to anyone who wants it can be tested??
This is not political this is a serious health problem.

If everyone in the US would be tested that would be 327 million tests And it would measure only one point in time. Repeated tests would be needed. It’s not possible.

Just act as though you have a positive result. Take care of yourself and protect others.

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 08:27 AM
As many so -called laws ( bureaucratic crud) have already been suspended, so should certain aspects of HIPAA. No names need to be released but where this person came from ( cruise, airline, etc) and how long they may have been infected need to be released for the greater good of the public. The last thing we want now is a group of unsuspecting carriers hanging out at City Fire or innocently shopping at Walmart unintentionally infecting others.

You assume that “unsuspecting carriers”
are not already in all of those places. Wrong. Social distancing and quarantines are being recommended because carriers can have no symptoms for many days while they are shedding virus everywhere. The majority of people have mild or no symptoms. By complying with guidance, we are all compassionately hoping to protect the ones who would get seriously ill or die from this...which could be you or me or someone we love.

dougjb
03-19-2020, 08:36 AM
33 people have been tested in the Villages....out of how many of us here?

EnglishJW
03-19-2020, 08:37 AM
I understand everyone’s desire to know who this person is and which village he or she lives in. However, to reveal a name would be a violation under federal law. I doubt very much that HIPPA will be repealed since the federal government is still way behind the rest of the world in dealing with this virus.

At the moment, I would agree with every word of the response, especially with regard to HIPPA. However, I assume HIPPA could indeed be modified to carve out the coronavirus given the massive level of ongoing concern. If there is a way to know if others have been directly exposed to a victim/carrier, they should be tested.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-19-2020, 09:03 AM
We need to have any person in contact with this person to be tested. This should be a REQUIREMENT when a Villager has COVID19!!!!!!!!

One of the things that makes this virus so difficult to slow down is that symptoms don't show for two weeks after contracting the virus. Most people are not going to remember every single person that they had come into contact with over that two week period. Even if they did, they may have left the virus on every door knob and other surface that they touched. It's impossible to tell how many people contracted the virus from that one person.

One thing that seems certain is that there are far more cases than are being reported. I don't say that because the government is being dishonest, I say it because they can only report on cases that they have been detected. They can only report "known" cases.

Even if we could test everyone in the country, it wouldn't help. A person that tests negative is only negative at the time of that test.

Consider this. You have some symptoms and you go to get tested. Three days later you get your results and you are negative. But, on the day that you got tested a person that does have the virus came into the testing center behind you and left the virus on the door knob that you touched on the way out of the testing facility. You contracted the virus on the way out.

Even though you tested negative, you have Covid-19 and are likely to have spread it.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-19-2020, 09:04 AM
At the moment, I would agree with every word of the response, especially with regard to HIPPA. However, I assume HIPPA could indeed be modified to carve out the coronavirus given the massive level of ongoing concern. If there is a way to know if others have been directly exposed to a victim/carrier, they should be tested.

I believe that the government has allowed for certain violations of HIPAA in the case of Covid-19.

LadyPenO
03-19-2020, 09:09 AM
Absolutely! As Seniors following all of our government's warnings, we need to quarantine ourselves if we've come into contact with the first person.... WE ARE SENIORS LIVING HERE, AND ARE THE "AT RISK" Group, WE NEED TO KNOW THE IDENTITY. Let's nip this in the bud before we wipe our an entire community.

Quixote
03-19-2020, 10:14 AM
You assume that “unsuspecting carriers”
are not already in all of those places. Wrong. Social distancing and quarantines are being recommended because carriers can have no symptoms for many days while they are shedding virus everywhere. The majority of people have mild or no symptoms. By complying with guidance, we are all compassionately hoping to protect the ones who would get seriously ill or die from this...which could be you or me or someone we love.

Would everybody please quit repeating that everyone should get the tested for COVID-19, so they can add to the blame on one person for there being limited numbers of kits?

Please read what Dr. Fauci said when speaking for himself on why everybody should not get tested, especially since the federal government cannot have 330 million test kits at this time.

I can't post a link as a new user, or I would.

Devan Cole, CNN
Updated 1553 GMT (2353 HKT) March 15, 2020

Washington (CNN) Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Sunday that he is not currently planning to get tested for coronavirus because he's not symptomatic and because he doesn't think every American should take a test.

"I'm not taking the test for a simple reason: I have no symptoms. I'm practicing pretty good social distancing," Fauci told CNN's Brianna Keilar on "State of the Union" after being asked if he was planning to be tested for the disease.

"Not everybody in the United States should take a test," Fauci said. "I mean I have no symptoms, there's no reason for me to take a test. If I'm in a situation where I'm at a higher risk, I will take a test."

Not that I’m looking to be tested, but it was my understanding that one of the gravest (no pun intended) dangers of coronavirus is that one is highly contagious well before any symptoms appear. Yet the highest authority on infectious diseases in the country is saying that he has no reason to be tested BECAUSE HE HAS NO SYMPTOMS!

Huh?

ColdNoMore
03-19-2020, 10:18 AM
Absolutely! As Seniors following all of our government's warnings, we need to quarantine ourselves if we've come into contact with the first person.... WE ARE SENIORS LIVING HERE, AND ARE THE "AT RISK" Group, WE NEED TO KNOW THE IDENTITY. Let's nip this in the bud before we wipe our an entire community.

Puhleeze. :oops:

There is absolutely no reason, other than being purely nosy (and possibly with intent to harrass)...in identifying the names of people testing positive.

How in the world would anyone who didn't already know the person...know if they've even been within 10 miles of them?

Answer... you wouldn't. :ohdear:

ColdNoMore
03-19-2020, 10:25 AM
A question for those biting at the bit...wanting names.

If the name(s) were published...what would YOU do in response?

:popcorn:

perrjojo
03-19-2020, 10:44 AM
So you want to be tested? Your test is negative. What about next week? Will you still be negative. The test only measures one moment in time. Yes, some may be positive and quarantine but being constantly tested is unreasonable and undoable.

shariys
03-19-2020, 11:18 AM
From the daily sun facebook page.

JUST IN: The first Villages resident has tested positive for COVID-19 at UF Health Leesburg Hospital. The case has been deemed travel-related. The Florida Department of Health has also confirmed the first case in Sumter County.
Maybe now everyone will start taking it seriously, instead of acting like oh, it's just the flu, it's just the common cold; or worse yet, it's a hoax started by a political party you don't like. Stop listening to self-serving politicians and commentators, and realize this thing is FOR REAL, and in a place like the Villages, it could be absolutely catastrophic.

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 11:41 AM
Not that I’m looking to be tested, but it was my understanding that one of the gravest (no pun intended) dangers of coronavirus is that one is highly contagious well before any symptoms appear. Yet the highest authority on infectious diseases in the country is saying that he has no reason to be tested BECAUSE HE HAS NO SYMPTOMS!

Huh?

If Dr. Fauci instead demanded to be tested every day he’d be condemned for wasting precious testing resources for his own benefit. Is he practicing social distancing as best he can since he has no symptoms? He is asking all of us not to request a test unnecessarily while we self-isolate.

coffeebean
03-19-2020, 12:15 PM
Exactly right...if you know this person, and interacted with him, you will be contacted. If you are staying home, and following directives, you would not have interacted with him, and you have nothing to worry about. DUH!

Hunkering down at home means just that with exceptions. The exceptions are going to the grocery store for food and other necessities. Going to the pharmacy to pick up medication. It is nice when there is a drive through window but not all pharmacies have a drive through window.

Walking through a grocery store you can be very mindful of not being too close to others but there is still that chance you can contract the virus. In this case, there is no way to track down which people could have been exposed to the virus.

Marvic 1
03-19-2020, 12:24 PM
how about pickelball? People sitting on a bench??

Not only sitting on the bench, how about touching the pickleball that everyone else has touched already.....:22yikes:

Marathon Man
03-19-2020, 12:39 PM
Those that demand to know the name and home location of the infected Villager: How would this information change your behavior?

Right now, I am assuming that everyone I see is potentially infected, and i am acting accordingly.

Villageswimmer
03-19-2020, 12:48 PM
Those that demand to know the name and home location of the infected Villager: How would this information change your behavior?

Right now, I am assuming that everyone I see is potentially infected, and i am acting accordingly.

Amen.

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 12:54 PM
Hilton hotel employee in ICU on respirator

44-year-old Capital Hilton Hotel worker hospitalized with COVID-19, workers quarantined | WJLA (https://wjla.com/live/manassas-man-hospitalized-with-covid-19)

He is 44 years old.

Praying for him.

conniest
03-19-2020, 01:02 PM
Everyone should be wearing a mask when they go out. It doesn't help 100%, but any % is better than 0%.

Koapaka
03-19-2020, 01:12 PM
HIPA laws. They cannot release the persons name. As it should be

Now if the NEWSPAPER just felt the same way about releasing MEDICAL/PRIVATE info when they decide to print a NEWS story, right???

How strange that street of privacy does not lead both ways. :(

ALadysMom
03-19-2020, 01:45 PM
Wow.

Coronavirus shatters New Jersey family, kills 3 with 4 more in hospitals

"I went to sleep having 10 aunts and uncles! Friday I woke up and found out I only had 9, just a few minutes ago I found out I only have 8," a relative said.

Coronavirus shatters New Jersey family, kills 3 with 4 more in hospitals (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1163696)

Fishers2tall
03-19-2020, 02:35 PM
So true. People hoarding TP and water...
Virus attacks the lungs not your intestines.

Actually that’s not completely true. The following is straight from the World Health Organization website:
“The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, tiredness, and dry cough. Some patients may have aches and pains, nasal congestion, runny nose, sore throat or diarrhea.”

sipops
03-19-2020, 02:36 PM
One came back from NY. I believe that was the one from Lady Lake.

golfing eagles
03-19-2020, 02:39 PM
Everyone should be wearing a mask when they go out. It doesn't help 100%, but any % is better than 0%.

In essence it helps 0%, don't bother buying or wearing one unless you are sick yourself

johnphil
03-19-2020, 03:20 PM
Amen

golfing eagles
03-19-2020, 03:41 PM
33 people have been tested in the Villages....out of how many of us here?

Where does that number come from. As of 5 minutes ago the Florida DOH reports 2 cases in Lake Co., 1 in Sumter and 0 in Marion. There are no statistics on the number tested

photo1902
03-19-2020, 04:24 PM
Where does that number come from. As of 5 minutes ago the Florida DOH reports 2 cases in Lake Co., 1 in Sumter and 0 in Marion. There are no statistics on the number tested

My guess is that they pulled that number from the area on a persons body where toilet paper is used.

golfing eagles
03-19-2020, 04:27 PM
My guess is that they pulled that number from the area on a persons body where toilet paper is used.

Not possible, there is no TP left to use:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

blueash
03-19-2020, 06:15 PM
Florida Dept of Health is now reporting a second positive in Sumter Co. on its Covid dashboard

big guy
03-19-2020, 06:49 PM
It would be great if we knew what Village the person lived in and where they traveled--its beginning--its going to be a rough ride

What would you do with the information? Stone their house? Stone them? Would you help or hinder?

big guy
03-19-2020, 06:51 PM
In essence it helps 0%, don't bother buying or wearing one unless you are sick yourself

You will wonder if you get it.

big guy
03-19-2020, 06:56 PM
This is exactly why the need for privacy. People hoarding toilet paper and essentials from others shows just how human nature can play out. Imagine if a person is identified; panic, finger pointing, blame, burn them mentality will be rampant. We have been too healthy, wealthy and clueless for too long. Stay home....if you are lucky you won't get it. To retrace your steps for the last 2 weeks or LONGER would be impossible. No blame, this is new to everyone. Even your government.

Well said. I can't imagine after what I saw in the grocery store how people would behave with that information.

golfing eagles
03-19-2020, 07:24 PM
You will wonder if you get it.

No, not in the least. The masks you can get are about 0% effective in preventing viruses from getting into your respiratory tract. I'm pretty sure I've explained this about 6 times on the different CV threads

Topspinmo
03-19-2020, 08:12 PM
No, not in the least. The masks you can get are about 0% effective in preventing viruses from getting into your respiratory tract. I'm pretty sure I've explained this about 6 times on the different CV threads

Then, why do doctors and nursing wear them, and why is there plea for them due to shortage? Why are they ramping up production?

blueash
03-19-2020, 09:01 PM
In essence it helps 0%, don't bother buying or wearing one unless you are sick yourself

Then, why do doctors and nursing wear them, and why is there plea for them due to shortage? Why are they ramping up production?

There is a well tested method of scientific evaluation, the grandmother test. If your grandmother knows it's true, then it's true and no further evaluation is needed.

Golfing's pronouncement that they are 0% effective lacks any references. However the major health organizations have said that there is no reason to wear the typical paper surgical mask. However we have all seen the photos especially from Asian communities of large numbers of people wearing surgical masks as they are out and about. It does seem logical that some filtration is better than no filtration. So has this been evaluated and if so what does the data show? Keeping in mind that one study is not proof, you may want to take a look at a few references.

Feb 2009 Emerg Inf Dis (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/)

Conclusion in part:
the relative reduction in the daily risk of acquiring a respiratory infection associated with adherent mask use (P2 or surgical) was in the range of 60%–80%. .. We emphasize that this level of risk reduction is dependent on the context, namely, adults in the household caring for a sick child after exposure to a single index case. We urge caution in extrapolating our results to school, workplace, or community contexts, or where multiple, repeated exposures may occur, such as in healthcare settings. The exact mechanism of potential clinical effectiveness of face mask use may be the prevention of inhalation of respiratory pathogens but may also be a reduction in hand-to-face contact. Our study could not determine the relative contributions of these mechanisms.

That study looked at transmission within a home of influenza like illnesses and the decrease in transmission to family members of the illness by having the well members wear no mask, a simple surgical mask, or mask [P2] similar to the N95 but not fitted to the user. The participants did not do a good job of actually wearing their masks, but in the small group that did wear them, both the surgical and P2 masks reduced the spread of illness.

Nov 2009 JAMA (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19797474)

This study compared the efficacy of having nurses in a hospital wear fitted N95 masks vs surgical masks as they cared for patients with influenza like illnesses. Again in this study simple surgical masks worked as well as fitted N95 masks
RESULTS:
Between September 23, 2008, and December 8, 2008, 478 nurses were assessed for eligibility and 446 nurses were enrolled and randomly assigned the intervention; 225 were allocated to receive surgical masks and 221 to N95 respirators. Influenza infection occurred in 50 nurses (23.6%) in the surgical mask group and in 48 (22.9%) in the N95 respirator group (absolute risk difference, -0.73%; 95% CI, -8.8% to 7.3%; P = .86), the lower confidence limit being inside the noninferiority limit of -9%.
CONCLUSION:
Among nurses in Ontario tertiary care hospitals, use of a surgical mask compared with an N95 respirator resulted in noninferior rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza.

So as grandma would have suggested something is better than nothing. And the surprise would be that a simple surgical mask may not be inferior to an N95 mask.

And HERE (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705692/) Is a study from China that had no mask, surgical mask, intermittent fitted N95 use or continuous N95 use in a hospital setting. Only continuous N95 use was strongly beneficial, plus no value to wearing a surgical mask was shown.

For a long list of publications on the topic of face masks click HERE (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic-review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05)

RG0119
03-20-2020, 08:04 PM
We need to have any person in contact with this person to be tested. This should be a REQUIREMENT when a Villager has COVID19!!!!!!!!

Good Luck getting any Name(s), Village and or other identifiers. That’s a HIPA violation.

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-20-2020, 08:52 PM
Good Luck getting any Name(s), Village and or other identifiers. That’s a HIPA violation.

Good luck getting "any" person who was "in contact" with the patient to get tested.

1. There aren't enough tests to do that.
2. Testing is reserved for people who have symptoms, plus the super wealthy, the "well-connected," and celebrities apparently.
3. If that person went to the town square one night two weeks ago and was there for an hour, he probably exposed many hundreds of people to the virus, each of whom have further exposed people to it by way of contact at stores, supermarkets, their own family, friends and neighbors, etc. One person can have contact with thousands of people in a week's time and this person wasn't diagnosed until after he showed symptoms. That means he was probably infected - and contagious - for at LEAST a week before that.

EdFNJ
03-20-2020, 08:55 PM
33 people have been tested in the Villages....out of how many of us here?

Where does that number come from. As of 5 minutes ago the Florida DOH reports 2 cases in Lake Co., 1 in Sumter and 0 in Marion. There are no statistics on the number tested

That's CASES not TESTED and that is now increased as well and yes, there are statistics: FL DEPT OF HEALTH STATISTICS PER COUNTY (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

My guess is that they pulled that number from the area on a persons body where toilet paper is used.

Yep, you can stand up now. ;)



Actually it's 51 tests in Sumter so it might be a fairly logical number to come up with 33 here.

Negative 36
Pending 13
Positive 2




https://i.postimg.cc/gcfMNpL2/tests.jpg (https://postimg.cc/DmPdwtc9)

benegan48
03-20-2020, 08:57 PM
people, be calm and blame no one right now. do what is necessary to stop the spread in your own place. wash your hands stay a distance and keep as clean as possible. blaming anyone is ignorance stopping the spread is as much as you can do, so do your part.

One thing I have noticed is that people are more courteous and understanding especially in cars and golf carts. A good sign . stay the course.