Estate ,garage and yard sales helping spread the Virus

[Debelg]

Dear Villagers , I want to ask you all to help out with this problem . Yesterday I paused by a Estate sale in the area where I was walking because I was just in disbelieve as I observed what was going on . There were about 30 to 40 people ,they were all touching the items for sale and putting back the ones they had no interest in . then at the checkout money changed hands . There were 18 adds in yesterdays paper for these kind of events and another 11 adds in todays paper . All these people could be potentially carriers of the Virus . Lets just say 40 people that come in contact with 2 other people that have no clue that they were at these kind of events that would make 80 additional carriers if those people come in contact with 2 more that would give an additional 160 …….do you get it ? please tell your friends not to attend those events and/or contact the paper not to print these adds until this situation is under control
please be safe
Thank you

[Chatbrat]

They should be halted during the emergency, time to bite more than one bullet--that bargain might be the most expensive bargain in a person's life

[Mendy]

These sales must stop immediately! Not only is this irresponsible, but gatherings of more than 10 could result in a fine or arrest in some areas. Please be smart and watch out for your neighbors. Thank you!

[Chatbrat]

The Daily Sun should pull the plug on all adds for garage & estate sales immediately

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The Daily Sun should pull the plug on all adds for garage & estate sales immediately

I think a lot of people don't see the big picture here. An "estate sale" is usually held after the estate owner dies. The government, utility companies, mortgage lenders, credit card companies, etc... want to get their money from the estate. Often upon death, all debts become immediately due in full.

Whoever inherits the estate, also inherits the debt unless an Executor is able to pay it off from bank assets. Once the actual monetary assets are depleted, the rest has to be handled so as to minimize tax responsibility and maximize whatever the beneficiary is allowed to receive.

The only way to do that is to sell the assets. That is what an estate sale is for. It's to get rid of things that belonged to someone who is now dead, so that the grandchildren aren't stuck with the burden of upkeep on things they can't or won't keep.

[gadaboutgal]

The grandchildren are not burdened by the upkeep of property that ends up in these Estate sales. They are choosing to sell the property in this way so that they can inherit more financially.
Holding Estate sales now just seems to not be in the best interest of the public at large. If the family must get rid of the items immediately, then I suggest they give the property away to charities. A hard thing to do-but right now we are all being asked to do what is hard.

[Debelg]

I think a lot of people don't see the big picture here. An "estate sale" is usually held after the estate owner dies. The government, utility companies, mortgage lenders, credit card companies, etc... want to get their money from the estate. Often upon death, all debts become immediately due in full.

Whoever inherits the estate, also inherits the debt unless an Executor is able to pay it off from bank assets. Once the actual monetary assets are depleted, the rest has to be handled so as to minimize tax responsibility and maximize whatever the beneficiary is allowed to receive.

The only way to do that is to sell the assets. That is what an estate sale is for. It's to get rid of things that belonged to someone who is now dead, so that the grandchildren aren't stuck with the burden of upkeep on things they can't or won't keep.
Thank you for your reply ,I think we all know why those estate sales are here for but I also really believe that the percentage of kids/grandkids that walk away with debt rather then money is very small in the Villages ,but all of that is besides the point . I feel that if I can safe only one person from getting sick or even dead with bringing awareness to this problem then it is well worth the protentional monetary loss of money . What do you think all those service related people are going through . This is NOT everyday life ,like the president said WE ARE AT WAR some of us didn't get this message

[billethkid]

Thank you for your reply ,I think we all know why those estate sales are here for but I also really believe that the percentage of kids/grandkids that walk away with debt rather then money is very small in the Villages ,but all of that is besides the point . I feel that if I can safe only one person from getting sick or even dead with bringing awareness to this problem then it is well worth the protentional monetary loss of money . What do you think all those service related people are going through . This is NOT everyday life ,like the president said WE ARE AT WAR some of us didn't get this message

I would say that too many believe any messaging of inconvenience does not apply to them.

[Velvet]

My understanding is that you can only inherit debt if your signature is on the account.

[vintageogauge]

the parking lot at Publix on Kristine Way is packed with cars, I could not imagine how crowded it is inside and would not attempt to even enter that store. It is 100 times worse than any estate sale and I would guess that people are touching everything in the stores too. Not much they can do about the crowded conditions inside the grocery stores and those conditions will help to spread the virus or the flu.

[Chatbrat]

Monetary obligations can be fixed, you can't fix death--no more garage & estate sales--there are lots of people who live here are absolutely clueless

[golfing eagles]

Monetary obligations can be fixed, you can't fix death--no more garage & estate sales--there are lots of people who live here are absolutely clueless

I think if the government can delay tax day by 3 months, close restaurants and entertainment venues, limit gatherings to 10 or less and in some places order you to stay at home, then they can require creditors to delay any collection proceedings after a person dies.

[Chatbrat]

So correct--

[Fishers2tall]

Whoever inherits the estate, also inherits the debt unless an Executor is able to pay it off from bank assets. Once the actual monetary assets are depleted, the rest has to be handled so as to minimize tax responsibility and maximize whatever the beneficiary is allowed to receive.

This is not the case in Florida. If the deceased person’s estate doesn’t have enough assets or cash to pay all the debts then in almost all circumstances those debts go unpaid and cannot be transferred to the people who inherit the estate. Per the Federal Trade Commission website - “Does a debt go away when the debtor dies? No. The estate of the deceased person owes the debt. If there isn't enough money in the estate to cover the debt, it typically goes unpaid.”

There are a few rare exceptions such as having co-signed for the debt or living in a community property state like California (Florida is not a community property state.) Now I am not an attorney and this shouldn’t be construed as legal advice so you should seek the advice of a Florida Elder law attorney if you are involved in settling or inheriting either part or the entirety of an estate.

[golfjuly11]

There are two motivators in life, fear and greed! Greed is obviously taking over on this issue but fear and common sense of spreading COVID-19 should prevail.

[coffeebean]

Dear Villagers , I want to ask you all to help out with this problem . Yesterday I paused by a Estate sale in the area where I was walking because I was just in disbelieve as I observed what was going on . There were about 30 to 40 people ,they were all touching the items for sale and putting back the ones they had no interest in . then at the checkout money changed hands . There were 18 adds in yesterdays paper for these kind of events and another 11 adds in todays paper . All these people could be potentially carriers of the Virus . Lets just say 40 people that come in contact with 2 other people that have no clue that they were at these kind of events that would make 80 additional carriers if those people come in contact with 2 more that would give an additional 160 …….do you get it ? please tell your friends not to attend those events and/or contact the paper not to print these adds until this situation is under control
please be safe
Thank you

Your hands can be full of the virus but as long as you do not put your hands on your face and touch your nose, mouth or eyes, you can not contract the virus from virus on your hands. This is why you MUST thoroughly wash your hands when you get back into your home. The virus goes down the drain and you are safe once again. Hand washing is key.

The second way to contract the virus is through droplets from an infected person coughing or sneezing which come in contact with your nose, mouth or eyes. The 6 foot social distancing will eliminate the possibility of contracting the virus in this mode of transmission.

Attending gatherings such as yard sales can not guarantee that you can keep 6 feet between you and the person next to you. I'm finding even walking the aisles of the grocery store can be a challenge in keeping 6 feet away from someone. There are folks out there who are not heeding the advice from our government and the infection control experts. You just never know when someone may sneeze in your direction and not cover their nose and mouth or start coughing and not cover their nose and mouth the proper way. It is a mine field out there!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think if the government can delay tax day by 3 months, close restaurants and entertainment venues, limit gatherings to 10 or less and in some places order you to stay at home, then they can require creditors to delay any collection proceedings after a person dies.

I don't know if they can or not - but so far, they haven't done that. So at the moment, creditors are free to begin collection proceedings on the estate if the owner of the estate dies.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Your hands can be full of the virus but as long as you do not put your hands on your face and touch your nose, mouth or eyes, you can not contract the virus from virus on your hands. This is why you MUST thoroughly wash your hands when you get back into your home. The virus goes down the drain and you are safe once again. Hand washing is key.

The second way to contract the virus is through droplets from an infected person coughing or sneezing which come in contact with your nose, mouth or eyes. The 6 foot social distancing will eliminate the possibility of contracting the virus in this mode of transmission.

Attending gatherings such as yard sales can not guarantee that you can keep 6 feet between you and the person next to you. I'm finding even walking the aisles of the grocery store can be a challenge in keeping 6 feet away from someone. There are folks out there who are not heeding the advice from our government and the infection control experts. You just never know when someone may sneeze in your direction and not cover their nose and mouth or start coughing and not cover their nose and mouth the proper way. It is a mine field out there!

So true. The risk of contracting ANY virus by going to an estate sale is fairly low, unless the person who owned the estate died in the home as a result of an infectious virus (because that stuff will be all over EVERYTHING).

The risk of contracting this by shopping in a supermarket and refusing to respect even half!!! of the 6' social distancing protocol is probably a whole lot higher.

I've had people come within inches of me - I've seen customers cough into their fists and then reach for packages on the shelf with the same hand. I've seen kids sitting IN shopping carts (not on the top where they belong), grabbing the carts on the sides, saw one kid sneeze...

seriously - an estate sale should be the least of your worries. You're not likely to see the kinds of crowds you see at the supermarket. Just don't go, if it bothers you. It's equally likely that all the people who DO go to them - are going to wash their hands at some point that day after returning home.

[EdFNJ]

They won't satisfy much "debt" with an estate sale. Most estate sales here are just garage sales run by 2 or 3 local companies who call them estate sales who take a huge amount of the proceeds and keep everything that isn't sold.

[Bogie Shooter]

They won't satisfy much "debt" with an estate sale. Most estate sales here are just garage sales run by 2 or 3 local companies who call them estate sales who take a huge amount of the proceeds and keep everything that isn't sold.

So true.
All this babble about settling an estate at a garage sale is malarkey.

[Blessed2BNTV]

I rode my bike through a few Villages and saw in disbelief several garage sales.

Hubby and I are very social people however NO ONE has been in our home for weeks and we have NOT been in the home of our friends.

People were in their garage picking up items. I was shocked by their stupidity.