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Kenswing
03-26-2020, 06:01 PM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

DianeM
03-26-2020, 06:02 PM
All the more reason to stay home.

dewilson58
03-26-2020, 06:50 PM
NY ignored the issue too long and now they are "paying for it."

The NY area is over 1/2 of the USA cases and they are 10 times the next state.

dewilson58
03-26-2020, 06:53 PM
& over 90% of China has recovered already.

Taltarzac725
03-26-2020, 06:56 PM
We do have a huge number of medical professionals to deal with this crisis. We should help them out by social distancing as much as possible so we do not get them sick as well. They do have to do grocery shopping, walk their dogs and like just like non medically trained people.

One of my dog park friends works in one of the hospitals near the Villages Regional Hospital.

Paper1
03-26-2020, 07:00 PM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

The sad part of this for me is PPE should be readily available for all of us but it seems the mighty USA can't even get masks to their hospitals. Early on a number of "experts" said wearing an N95 mask would not help curb transmission of the virus, bull!!!!. It is costing thousands of dollars to treat a single person with this virus while these masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer cost almost nothing. Everyone going into a grocery store or working in a store should be wearing at least a N95 mask and gloves but none are available. I know we Americans think we are a lot more intelligent than the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese but I can't help notice they are all wearing masks and gloves. But cheer up the stock market rallied today with record unemployment claims and there are a million checks going out to everyone who can vote, maybe we can attach a couple rubber bands on them and use them for a mask. Thank you for letting me vent.

dewilson58
03-26-2020, 07:02 PM
Early on a number of "experts" said wearing an N95 mask would not help curb transmission of the virus, bull!!!!.




Obviously they were not experts.

I never heard wear to prevent.
I always hear, DON'T!!

Bucco
03-26-2020, 07:16 PM
NY ignored the issue too long and now they are "paying for it."

The NY area is over 1/2 of the USA cases and they are 10 times the next state.

We had dramatically more warning, more time, and better health care infrastructure than China. Our total failure to get this under control despite that is a matter of great concern.

Bucco
03-26-2020, 07:29 PM
Actually, Both SOuth Korea and USA got their first cases on *exactly* the same day

South Korea mobilized with testing, manufacturing of supplies and a national effort

US ???

GoodLife
03-26-2020, 07:31 PM
NY ignored the issue too long and now they are "paying for it."

The NY area is over 1/2 of the USA cases and they are 10 times the next state.

3 weeks ago Mayor Deblasio was urging New Yorkers to go out on the town.

DianeM
03-26-2020, 08:01 PM
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DianeM
03-26-2020, 08:06 PM
Thankfully none but leadership quotes what info they have on a given day.

npwalters
03-26-2020, 08:24 PM
Actually the report is that the US has the most REPORTED cases. It is highly likely that China (for instance) had many unreported cases. The US has been aggressive in testing for COVID19 and that drove the number up. Good information to have but it should not be used purely as a measure of our response - or lack of.

The statistics would be more useful and meaningful if the number of cases was reported as a percentage of the population.

GoodLife
03-26-2020, 08:27 PM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

Believing anything China says is dangerous for your health,

Nucky
03-26-2020, 08:40 PM
RUN, LIE, DENY. It's time for all the N.Y. Officials to take cover, point fingers and accuse others and perform magic by letting X amount of New Yorkers escape so the have less people to treat. It's really not time to get down on any of these fools. Less people for them to treat while they let their own citizens infect people all over the country. News Conferences to cry about Equipment they could have bought and didn't while people who are possibly infected leaked outta town

The time is now to get the supplies, the Medical Ship and the proper equipment in the proper place. Did you see the pictures on all news channels tonight where they cruised thru the Subway and Central Park? Pictures of Time Square empty. Unbelievable. God Help The Citizens and Healthcare people all over our country but for now especially where they have been failed by the local people they hired. The Facts have been said already. Go out and eat don't worry, IDIOT!

Enter the Spin Doctors.

Northwoods
03-26-2020, 08:53 PM
NY ignored the issue too long and now they are "paying for it."

The NY area is over 1/2 of the USA cases and they are 10 times the next state.

And they're all flying down here to escape the quarantine (and to enjoy the warm weather and cheap airline fares). Entitled. Not following orders. How can this end well?

Topspinmo
03-26-2020, 10:48 PM
& over 90% of China has recovered already.

Who says? China? I would believe anything that comes out of that government’s mouth.

Topspinmo
03-26-2020, 10:54 PM
The sad part of this for me is PPE should be readily available for all of us but it seems the mighty USA can't even get masks to their hospitals. Early on a number of "experts" said wearing an N95 mask would not help curb transmission of the virus, bull!!!!. It is costing thousands of dollars to treat a single person with this virus while these masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer cost almost nothing. Everyone going into a grocery store or working in a store should be wearing at least a N95 mask and gloves but none are available. I know we Americans think we are a lot more intelligent than the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese but I can't help notice they are all wearing masks and gloves. But cheer up the stock market rallied today with record unemployment claims and there are a million checks going out to everyone who can vote, maybe we can attach a couple rubber bands on them and use them for a mask. Thank you for letting me vent.

Well should be deleted due to political over tone.

Can’t get toilet paper either, where do you think majority are made? CHINA, what happens when there run of on anything? It becomes very, very, VERY hard to get. Takes time for company to quadruple production of anything in crisis.

Topspinmo
03-26-2020, 10:57 PM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

Majority of us watch the news also.
I wouldn’t trust anything Chinese government says.

jswirs
03-27-2020, 05:15 AM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)
Hmmm, yes, I think the "grim statistics" state that 1,000 people in the U.S. are now deceased from the covid 19 virus. So 79,000 more people would have to die from the current virus to match the amount of people that died from influenza just 2 years ago.

blueash
03-27-2020, 05:19 AM
Actually the report is that the US has the most REPORTED cases. It is highly likely that China (for instance) had many unreported cases. The US has been aggressive in testing for COVID19 and that drove the number up. Good information to have but it should not be used purely as a measure of our response - or lack of.


I am not sure of your definition of aggressively testing. IMO the US is still actively avoiding aggressively testing and has in place a policy of very selectively testing only the most ill patients. And even with that policy there are still shortages of test kits, testing sites. In Italy they are doing mass testing of everyone in some regions. Not just the symptomatic but those who have absolutely no symptoms. That defines aggressive testing. South Korea had walk in testing for everyone, no doctor's order. That is aggressive testing.
Here, you need a doctor's order to have private testing done. The doctor must collect the sample unless you happen to have a mobile lab set up for a few days in your polo field. Most doctors are NOT collecting samples.
But the point is, the US is among the most restrictive in testing both because of the way our health care system is organized, the still great shortage of testing kits and sites. Do you really believe that if today you developed a sore throat and mild runny nose that there is anyplace you could get a Covid test easily done?
If there is anything about testing rates in the US, it is how unaggressive or unprepared we have been so far. I have a distant relative in rural Ohio, in bed with 102 fever and respiratory symptoms. She has been told she does not need testing. No test for her. There have been no reported cases in her rural county. Do you see why?
Are other countries less prepared than the US, certainly. Are other countries struggling with lack of testing, certainly. Are countries fudging their numbers.. I don't know.

Things are improving as to test kits and in terms of people and leaders taking this much more seriously than they did 2 weeks ago. Both of those attitude adjustments will help. But we have certainly not changed the approach from very selective testing to anything aggressive. When you get that phone call from someone you ate with last week who now has cold symptoms and you ask, "Did you get a Covid test?", you know that it is very likely the answer will be "I called my doctor and I don't qualify." So now you're in the dark about that potential exposure. Then it won't seem like we're aggressively testing anymore.

blueash
03-27-2020, 05:35 AM
3 weeks ago Mayor Deblasio was urging New Yorkers to go out on the town.

Absolutely accurate. It was Gov Cuomo who shut down Broadway, and the St Patricks Day parade when De Blasio didn't. The Governor gets high marks for acting to flatten the curve. De Blasio failed to act until NYC was in trouble.

Lindsyburnsy
03-27-2020, 05:43 AM
3 weeks ago Mayor Deblasio was urging New Yorkers to go out on the town.

Florida’s Governor still hasn’t ordered everyone to stay home except groceries or prescriptions. Does he intentionally want Florida residents to get sick?

Why so many non symptom testing available in TV but none available for other states? Just keeping voters intact?

CharlesNT
03-27-2020, 06:00 AM
Exactly, not to mention from the start the Chinese have lied about and distorted the severity of the problem they had.

A comparison to tests vs population, percentage of tests that were done that came back positive, and positive tests vs deaths are far better indicators of the severity of the problem.

In yesterday’s press conference they said only 15% of the tests come back positive.

dewilson58
03-27-2020, 06:05 AM
Who says? China? I would believe anything that comes out of that government’s mouth.




Jus reporting data from John Hopkins.

TNLAKEPANDA
03-27-2020, 06:09 AM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

You can not trust any information from China. No one really knows what is going on there!

Leadbone1
03-27-2020, 06:13 AM
At this time it is more of a New York problem than it is a U. S. problem. And the reason why we’re showing more cases is because we have tested more than anyone or any country despite what you may hear...

Leadbone1
03-27-2020, 06:15 AM
We have done significantly more testing than South Korea did!

jacksonbrown
03-27-2020, 06:15 AM
"The US has been aggressive in testing for COVID19 and that drove the number up. "

Exactly!

And, I see no mention of the number of those suffering from seasonal flu.

kenoc7
03-27-2020, 06:33 AM
Believing anything China says is dangerous for your health,

Believing anything that is said in the Coronavirus task force news conferences except by the doctors is extremely dangerous for your health.

kenoc7
03-27-2020, 06:35 AM
We have done significantly more testing than South Korea did!

Significantly less in terms of population - South Korea's population is 1/6th of the USA.

xNYer
03-27-2020, 06:41 AM
Hmmm, yes, I think the "grim statistics" state that 1,000 people in the U.S. are now deceased from the covid 19 virus. So 79,000 more people would have to die from the current virus to match the amount of people that died from influenza just 2 years ago.

The CDC estimates 34200 deaths from the flu in the 2018-2019 season.

Bucco
03-27-2020, 06:55 AM
I realize the "national" message is to attack those in New York. Have you checked out Mass ? You have your head in the sand concentrating on New York.

The National message was almost exactly the same as New York's at exactly the same time.

Our leaders are National......again, as much as I can....let's stop laying blame. This is a National crisis, not one in which we look to the mayor of New York for leadership.

If these diversions help you fine, but your "aim" is way way off.

BarbC2016
03-27-2020, 07:13 AM
It always bothers me how people use numbers. Having worked with stats and risk analysis for many years when I hear numbers out of context it really bothers me. There are two numbers here that are important. Percent of total population and profile of people who died. Yes, we have surpassed Italy in the total number of cases, but Italy has ~ 61 million people, we have as of the end of January almost 330 million people. So to effectively match Italy's death rate we would have 5 X the number of deaths. Also, it is known that the disproportionate number of deaths is in people over 80 with three or more underlying conditions, followed by people over 65, also with one or more underlying conditions. A risk based analysis says - target the "hot spots" and prioritize your approach with the resources you have available. What is going on now tells me that the available, or soon to be available resources, need to be sent to the critical areas as quickly as possible (as is the current plan), the guidelines for slowing the spread need to be followed and you and I must assess our personal risk and do what we need to do to be safe. It also says we should not cripple our children's future by destroying jobs and panicking the entire population. It is interesting to note that the target population in the 1918 flu were young people. It has been suspected that older people had had a weaker version of the flu at some point previously and developed an immunity, which is why they were not so heavily affected. Stay safe.

forebubba
03-27-2020, 07:14 AM
Just a month ago we were told the cases would go to zero and people believed him

skip0358
03-27-2020, 07:19 AM
Yea and now we're going to let a Cruise ship with sick people onboard dock here. Why?
We have enough sick people of our own!

jbrown132
03-27-2020, 07:33 AM
The sad part of this for me is PPE should be readily available for all of us but it seems the mighty USA can't even get masks to their hospitals. Early on a number of "experts" said wearing an N95 mask would not help curb transmission of the virus, bull!!!!. It is costing thousands of dollars to treat a single person with this virus while these masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer cost almost nothing. Everyone going into a grocery store or working in a store should be wearing at least a N95 mask and gloves but none are available. I know we Americans think we are a lot more intelligent than the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese but I can't help notice they are all wearing masks and gloves. But cheer up the stock market rallied today with record unemployment claims and there are a million checks going out to everyone who can vote, maybe we can attach a couple rubber bands on them and use them for a mask. Thank you for letting me vent.
Maybe the problem is that all those masks, hand sanitizer etc. are made in China

Lindamct
03-27-2020, 07:39 AM
We have more test kits! According to the CDC the US is 6th in number of deaths from the corona virus, just over 1,000. According to the United Nations World Population Prospects report, approximately 7,452 people die every day in the United States
Pass facts please not fear.

By the way...
The reports are that the truckers are getting supplies to the stores. People are stocking the shelves all night and letting old people shop first. Carnival Cruise line told Trump “We can match those big Navy Hospital ships with some fully staffed cruise ships” GM said hold our cars and watch this; we can make those ventilators where we were making cars starting next week. Women and children are making homemade masks and handing out snacks to truckers. Restaurants and schools said, We’ve got kitchens and staff; we can feed kids.” Churches are holding on-line services and taking care of their members and community. NBA basketball players said, “Hold our basketballs while we write checks to pay the arena staff.” Construction companies said, “Here are some masks for the medical staff and doctors”. Breweries are making sanitizer out of the left-over ingredients. We thought we couldn’t live without Baseball, NASCAR, NBA or going to the beach, restaurants or a bar. Instead, we’re trying to keep those businesses open by ordering take-out.

What communist China didn't count on was America saying "Hey, hold my beer and watch this."

I think a Japanese Admiral in the middle of the Pacific said it best in 1941, "I think we have awakened a sleeping giant."

Give us a few more weeks (maybe months) and we will be doing much better! And stop listening to the hysterical media!!

Sharing this from another FB friend. We have wonderful country and an amazing God.

God’s got us!🇺🇸🙏🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸

#unitedwestand

Copy and pasted. Author unknown.

ts12755
03-27-2020, 07:41 AM
That's because we test more and our test kits work. We also have the lowest death rate because our health services and treatment is much better than letting people die

merrymini
03-27-2020, 07:42 AM
How can you believe anything coming out of China? They lie continuously and then accuse US of spreading the virus to THEM and now have closed their boards so FOREIGNERS do not being the virus into their country? Really? Who knows what the status is there now? We did a good job and if we can improve on that, we should and will.

NotGolfer
03-27-2020, 07:45 AM
3 weeks ago Mayor Deblasio was urging New Yorkers to go out on the town.

And now...he's criticizing the gov't for not doing more.

jacksonbrown
03-27-2020, 07:48 AM
In cases per million, we're quite low: 239, to Italy's 1,333, Spain's 1,202, Germany's 521, France's 447, ...

We're low on deaths per million.

We're high in total cases mainly because we're high in total population.

We're low in per-million deaths because the feds shut down a lot of transportation early and closed the borders.

ladybugsmom
03-27-2020, 08:03 AM
But not in deaths....

LSTOWELL
03-27-2020, 08:24 AM
Correct don't wear a mask if you are not sick.it does not prevent particles from flying in.. if you are out and about and have a compromised immune system then I wouldn't hesitate to wear one but normally no...

merrymini
03-27-2020, 08:47 AM
The death toll here was supposed to be 3.4 percent but looks like it may be as low as 1.5 percent. Italy had a 10 percent death rate.

toeser
03-27-2020, 08:47 AM
Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

Seriously, you believe the numbers out of China? As to other countries, the U.S. has far fewer cases RELATIVE TO POPULATION than most countries in Europe. Italy, for example, has 60 million people. The U.S. has 330 million.

rsb03
03-27-2020, 09:06 AM
Leave the N95s in short supply to the brave medical workers who need them.

cassjax2
03-27-2020, 09:07 AM
Have you considered that we are doing more testing than other countries?

davem4616
03-27-2020, 09:19 AM
if you need the Governor of FL to order you to stay home you're not really cable of behaving like a responsible adult

yeah, China lies and tried to hide this....yeah the NYC mayor is an egotistical jerk that failed as a leader

as far as the news is concerned I don't trust that I'm not hearing biased reporting....remember 'no matter how flat the pancake is, there's always two sides to it'

billethkid
03-27-2020, 09:30 AM
I did not see any responses to the question why are cruise ships with known sickness being allowed to dock in FL?

Cruise lines are not being as diligent in screening. We have family that have returned from cruises in the past 2 weeks that upon departure, not a single word of precaution, or self quarantine for 14 days just in case, or checks upon debarkation (Princess).

Royal Caribbean docks in Charleston after promising to screen passengers during debarkation. Absolutely nothing different than any other debarkation....walk off, grab your bag and go.

The un-screened flights from NY dumping into FL everyday.

The too high of a percentage of those who do not follow the self home confinement guidelines.......

Not closing the beaches to non residents.....

Etc.

All, potentially, create an opportunity for FL to become an outbreak epicenter. Not the sky is falling...just concerned about the lack of more stringent enforcement of guidelines to better protect FL.....hence vulnerable!!!

npwalters
03-27-2020, 09:32 AM
I am not sure of your definition of aggressively testing. IMO the US is still actively avoiding aggressively testing and has in place a policy of very selectively testing only the most ill patients. And even with that policy there are still shortages of test kits, testing sites. In Italy they are doing mass testing of everyone in some regions. Not just the symptomatic but those who have absolutely no symptoms. That defines aggressive testing. South Korea had walk in testing for everyone, no doctor's order. That is aggressive testing.
Here, you need a doctor's order to have private testing done. The doctor must collect the sample unless you happen to have a mobile lab set up for a few days in your polo field. Most doctors are NOT collecting samples.
But the point is, the US is among the most restrictive in testing both because of the way our health care system is organized, the still great shortage of testing kits and sites. Do you really believe that if today you developed a sore throat and mild runny nose that there is anyplace you could get a Covid test easily done?
If there is anything about testing rates in the US, it is how unaggressive or unprepared we have been so far. I have a distant relative in rural Ohio, in bed with 102 fever and respiratory symptoms. She has been told she does not need testing. No test for her. There have been no reported cases in her rural county. Do you see why?
Are other countries less prepared than the US, certainly. Are other countries struggling with lack of testing, certainly. Are countries fudging their numbers.. I don't know.

Things are improving as to test kits and in terms of people and leaders taking this much more seriously than they did 2 weeks ago. Both of those attitude adjustments will help. But we have certainly not changed the approach from very selective testing to anything aggressive. When you get that phone call from someone you ate with last week who now has cold symptoms and you ask, "Did you get a Covid test?", you know that it is very likely the answer will be "I called my doctor and I don't qualify." So now you're in the dark about that potential exposure. Then it won't seem like we're aggressively testing anymore.

I guess you have missed the news reports of drive up testing at many sites; including The Villages. True that there are spot shortages in some hot spots and only those that are truly symptomatic are being tested. Several labs and universities have developed tests that can show results in as little as 30 minutes.

npwalters
03-27-2020, 09:36 AM
In cases per million, we're quite low: 239, to Italy's 1,333, Spain's 1,202, Germany's 521, France's 447, ...

We're low on deaths per million.

We're high in total cases mainly because we're high in total population.

We're low in per-million deaths because the feds shut down a lot of transportation early and closed the borders.

Spoken like a man who can actually see the big picture and think for yourself. Well done.

jswirs
03-27-2020, 09:38 AM
The CDC estimates 34200 deaths from the flu in the 2018-2019 season.
80,000 U.S. citizens died from the flu during the 2017 - 2018 season. Source - market watch

jswirs
03-27-2020, 09:42 AM
In cases per million, we're quite low: 239, to Italy's 1,333, Spain's 1,202, Germany's 521, France's 447, ...

We're low on deaths per million.

We're high in total cases mainly because we're high in total population.

We're low in per-million deaths because the feds shut down a lot of transportation early and closed the borders.
But will this information dispel the worries of the masses? I think not.

mydavid
03-27-2020, 10:15 AM
I could also be said, that Florida is going down the same path.

bumpygreens
03-27-2020, 10:47 AM
Since the first case of COVID 19 in the USA, 2,400 Americans have died from Corona virus.

During that same time:
7,800 to 9,000 have died from influenza.
17,833 have died in Planned Parenthood Centers.
1 in 10,000 Floridians have tested positive for COVID 19...one third of them live in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale.
2.45 in 10,000 Americans have tested positive for COVID 19...nearly half of them live in New York.
Nearly 4,000,000 have filed for unemployment. That's 300 in every 10,000 workers. That number is likely to go much, much higher.
Over 10% of restaurants have already gone bankrupt, and will not re-open regardless of any stimulus package. I don't have estimates for other small businesses.

Congress is going to add $2,000,000,000,000 (at a minimum) to our national debt in just one bill..an 8.6% increase overnight, and no one is mentioning the additional $4,000,000,000,000 the Federal Reserve is authorized to put into the financial sector.

It seems to me that we are all passengers on a bus that is speeding toward a cliff, while the politicians and the media argue over who should be driving the bus. Donald Trump wondered aloud if maybe we should pump the brakes and everyone snarled at him.

I'm not trying to downplay the potential seriousness of this pandemic. We in the Villages along with others in our age group are the most at risk from this illness. I just have to wonder if the cost in lives and finances would both be much lower if we focused on ways to insulate retirees while everyone else goes about their business.

xNYer
03-27-2020, 10:55 AM
Hmmm, yes, I think the "grim statistics" state that 1,000 people in the U.S. are now deceased from the covid 19 virus. So 79,000 more people would have to die from the current virus to match the amount of people that died from influenza just 2 years ago.

You are implying that the flu is worse. Did you self quarantine and maintain social distance during flu seasons? Are you doing so now, or not worrying since you seem to believe the flu is worse?

npwalters
03-27-2020, 10:56 AM
Since the first case of COVID 19 in the USA, 2,400 Americans have died from Corona virus.

During that same time:
7,800 to 9,000 have died from influenza.
17,833 have died in Planned Parenthood Centers.
1 in 10,000 Floridians have tested positive for COVID 19...one third of them live in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale.
2.45 in 10,000 Americans have tested positive for COVID 19...nearly half of them live in New York.
Nearly 4,000,000 have filed for unemployment. That's 300 in every 10,000 workers. That number is likely to go much, much higher.
Over 10% of restaurants have already gone bankrupt, and will not re-open regardless of any stimulus package. I don't have estimates for other small businesses.

Congress is going to add $2,000,000,000,000 (at a minimum) to our national debt in just one bill..an 8.6% increase overnight, and no one is mentioning the additional $4,000,000,000,000 the Federal Reserve is authorized to put into the financial sector.

It seems to me that we are all passengers on a bus that is speeding toward a cliff, while the politicians and the media argue over who should be driving the bus. Donald Trump wondered aloud if maybe we should pump the brakes and everyone snarled at him.

I'm not trying to downplay the potential seriousness of this pandemic. We in the Villages along with others in our age group are the most at risk from this illness. I just have to wonder if the cost in lives and finances would both be much lower if we focused on ways to insulate retirees while everyone else goes about their business.

Well said and reflects a train of thought that many are pondering. I'm sure someone will quibble with your stats but the discussion is valid.

RedBoneJones
03-27-2020, 11:46 AM
There are more cases in NY because they are doing more testing than anyone else, plus there are likely more international travelers in NY than elsewhere.. If and when we begin testing more a lot of states are going to up their numbers....

Ramone
03-27-2020, 12:24 PM
And now we get a 1000 New York low life on cheap fares infused into our Florida numbers. Why did the gov not followup on this fleeing of the virus crowd coming in?

prntxpresn
03-27-2020, 12:36 PM
My doctor now hands masks & sanitizer outside premises. She also wears a mask.

jklfairwin
03-27-2020, 01:48 PM
The sad part of this for me is PPE should be readily available for all of us but it seems the mighty USA can't even get masks to their hospitals. Early on a number of "experts" said wearing an N95 mask would not help curb transmission of the virus, bull!!!!. It is costing thousands of dollars to treat a single person with this virus while these masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer cost almost nothing. Everyone going into a grocery store or working in a store should be wearing at least a N95 mask and gloves but none are available. I know we Americans think we are a lot more intelligent than the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese but I can't help notice they are all wearing masks and gloves. But cheer up the stock market rallied today with record unemployment claims and there are a million checks going out to everyone who can vote, maybe we can attach a couple rubber bands on them and use them for a mask. Thank you for letting me vent.

I do notice that the masks that most people in other countries are wearing are the basic surgical masks which provide minimal protection , not the N95 masks. Those N95 masks are desperately needed by health care workers who are constantly exposed to the virus, not by the general public.

Bucco
03-27-2020, 02:29 PM
Have you considered that we are doing more testing than other countries?

Need a link to validate that fact.

I know we talk more about it

Sorry, the gross numbers, you are correcT. i ALWAYS look at per capita stats and of course with our large population center, we lack by a lot......better and quicker start maybe help ?

xNYer
03-27-2020, 02:41 PM
South Korea has tested 0.7% of its population, or about 1 test for every 149 residents over that eight-week period. The United States has tested about 0.1% of its population, or 1 test for about every 1,038 residents over the eight-day period.

Aces4
03-27-2020, 02:43 PM
Need a link to validate that fact.

I know we talk more about it

Sorry, the gross numbers, you are correcT. i ALWAYS look at per capita stats and of course with our large population center, we lack by a lot......better and quicker start maybe help ?

That’s funny, people will barely cooperate now with the deceased at their feet just imagine the hysteria if any of these provisions would have been instituted on January 1st of this year. There are a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks and then there is reality.

DeanFL
03-27-2020, 02:45 PM
yikes! almost 100,000 cases in the USA, and almost 1500 deaths as of now.

Who would have thought 2 months ago. How our world has changed...

ColdNoMore
03-27-2020, 05:59 PM
Believing anything that is said in the Coronavirus task force news conferences except by the doctors is extremely dangerous for your health.

YEP...EXACTLY!


:boom:

ColdNoMore
03-27-2020, 06:01 PM
I realize the "national" message is to attack those in New York. Have you checked out Mass ? You have your head in the sand concentrating on New York.

The National message was almost exactly the same as New York's at exactly the same time.

Our leaders are National......again, as much as I can....let's stop laying blame. This is a National crisis, not one in which we look to the mayor of New York for leadership.

If these diversions help you fine, but your "aim" is way way off.


Nailed it! :boom:


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golfing eagles
03-27-2020, 06:13 PM
yikes! almost 100,000 cases in the USA, and almost 1500 deaths as of now.

Who would have thought 2 months ago. How our world has changed...

YIKES! 33 million cases and 37,000 deaths from influenza A as of now.

Paper1
03-27-2020, 06:34 PM
I do notice that the masks that most people in other countries are wearing are the basic surgical masks which provide minimal protection , not the N95 masks. Those N95 masks are desperately needed by health care workers who are constantly exposed to the virus, not by the general public.

I am not at all saying we should be taking mask for medical workers just that an ounce of prevention sometimes saves a pound of cure. These masks should have been readily available considering what we know about infectious disease.

Bucco
03-27-2020, 06:49 PM
I am not at all saying we should be taking mask for medical workers just that an ounce of prevention sometimes saves a pound of cure. These masks should have been readily available considering what we know about infectious disease.

Maybe we should have had a "Rapid Response Team".....just saying.