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Regor
03-27-2020, 09:37 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
DianeM
03-27-2020, 09:39 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
I agree with you completely. That money needs to go to people who really need it. Many have lost their jobs and are suffering. If and when I receive it, I’m seriously considering donating it to a food pantry or something like that.
Tom53
03-27-2020, 09:43 AM
The check will be based on your income, a good number of people here will receive nothing, as it should be. Last I read, the income would be based on your 2018 returns, don't know it that changed.
GoodLife
03-27-2020, 09:44 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.
Polar Bear
03-27-2020, 09:45 AM
I think the intent is for you to SPEND IT!
It’s then a win-win...helping you and struggling businesses to get people BACK to work.
skip0358
03-27-2020, 09:50 AM
Agree not everyone here retired with large pensions and or SSI checks, some have also lost their spouses and their incomes so they could certainly use the check when it comes. It's based on your filing income whether or not you get one and how much it will be period .
retiredguy123
03-27-2020, 09:51 AM
Why are retirees getting a check? The same reason the Kennedy Center is getting $25 million. Politics.
Villagevip
03-27-2020, 10:02 AM
Don't desire a government check? This, after all the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers monies wasted and stolen? Better in my hands to waste....
Marvic 1
03-27-2020, 10:20 AM
Why don't you think of this instead of picking on those on SS...
If your out of work and were making $99,000 a year (that's almost $2,000 a week) you will be getting $2,000 unemployment benefits every week for sitting at home. As Electrician 12 years ago I was making $80+K per/year, when I went on furlough I got $246 per/week not $1,500 from unemployment benefits, $246.00 was the cap at that time, thank God my Union was able to supplement that....
Fredman
03-27-2020, 11:26 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
Don’t want your money then donate it to an organization that could use it more than you.
Decadeofdave
03-27-2020, 11:35 AM
It's working out good for me, just sent IRS 1200 dollars for 2019 taxes.Now I get my 1200 back - even steven
golfing eagles
03-27-2020, 11:52 AM
There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.
True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.
Mleeja
03-27-2020, 11:58 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
Have you not noticed the number of seniors working here in The Villages? Many are doing so to supplement their SSI and may be affected due to business and restaurant closings. I bet they do not qualify for unemployed payments so the $1200 will be a big help!
If you do not need the money donate it to a church or local food bank. I am sure they will be very appreciative of you donation.
GoodLife
03-27-2020, 12:04 PM
True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.
That would be super simple to figure out, probably take only a year or two.
golfing eagles
03-27-2020, 12:07 PM
That would be super simple to figure out, probably take only a year or two.
A decade or two if the GAO tries to figure it out:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
cegallup
03-27-2020, 12:23 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
"FREEDOM" and "LAWS" are difficult for some to conceptualize. I think the whole Bill is 50% pork - and it puts us further into future Bankruptcy. But I'm not going to tell anyone what to do with their "GIFT". If you like, donate it . . . .
brianherlihy
03-27-2020, 02:46 PM
give it to your kids
brianherlihy
03-27-2020, 02:49 PM
give it to the homeless :bigbow::clap2::clap2:
Topspinmo
03-27-2020, 03:26 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
You don’t have to cash it. Or are just mad others are getting it? Just cause you and I don’t need it don’t mean every retiree in the same boat.
Cissy
03-27-2020, 03:27 PM
If you think it's such a dumb idea, return the check!
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Rapscallion St Croix
03-27-2020, 03:28 PM
As a lover of irony, I will use money given to me by the federal government to pay for certain products deemed illegal by said federal government but allowed under Florida law.
billlaur
03-27-2020, 03:34 PM
give it to me ,I NEED IT:pray:
Bogie Shooter
03-27-2020, 03:43 PM
There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.
So, explain how they are effected financially by the virus. Still get their SS check.
Regor
03-27-2020, 03:46 PM
It sounds like someone is trying to buy votes!
Bogie Shooter
03-27-2020, 03:47 PM
I think the intent is for you to SPEND IT!
It’s then a win-win...helping you and struggling businesses to get people BACK to work.
Then give it to those in need to spend.
Bogie Shooter
03-27-2020, 03:49 PM
True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.
My God, this is so simple, why is it so hard to understand?
Regor
03-27-2020, 04:25 PM
With everything closed, where do you spend it that can help?
Mleeja
03-27-2020, 05:37 PM
So, explain how they are effected financially by the virus. Still get their SS check.
I am not 100% sure which side of the fence you are coming down on. It appears you are suggesting people receiving SSI do not need the check because their income situation has not changed. This concept could be expanded further. There are millions of folks that have not lost their jobs and they will be getting the checks as well. Because they have not lost their jobs should they be denied the payment as well?
Villageswimmer
03-27-2020, 06:06 PM
Don’t want your money then donate it to an organization that could use it more than you.
I think many here will do that.
billethkid
03-27-2020, 06:11 PM
If you don't need it, think you don't deserve it....now you can just go out and spend that much more than you usually would in the local small businesses in TV.
golfing eagles
03-27-2020, 06:16 PM
i am not 100% sure which side of the fence you are coming down on. It appears you are suggesting people receiving ssi do not need the check because their income situation has not changed. This concept could be expanded further. There are millions of folks that have not lost their jobs and they will be getting the checks as well. Because they have not lost their jobs should they be denied the payment as well?
yes
Paper1
03-27-2020, 06:22 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
Election coming Nov, expecting you to vote. That said I agree with you
Topspinmo
03-27-2020, 06:24 PM
give it to me ,I NEED IT:pray:
You’ll have to beat me in one pocket for it:super:
Topspinmo
03-27-2020, 06:28 PM
So, explain how they are effected financially by the virus. Still get their SS check.
They are on very limited income anything puts them in bind. Evidently Only the poor Would understand?
Topspinmo
03-27-2020, 06:29 PM
Election coming Nov, expecting you to vote. That said I agree with you
So, you think career politicians have the answers?
ColdNoMore
03-27-2020, 06:37 PM
I am just hoping that those on the lower end of the income scale...are the ones getting money.
The amount of annual income, should also include those drawing yearly from investment income.
In other words, as far as I'm concerned, ALL money flowing into a household, regardless of the source...should be used in calculating who is eligible to receive money from this bill.
As far as I'm concerned, I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of it should go toward those who need it the most and whose entire current household income...should not exceed $60K single and $100K total.
What I'm afraid of however, is that those making that amount of money right now may end up losing their jobs permanently and then all bets against us slipping into an actual DEPRESSION...are off. :ohdear:
One thing is for sure though, the biggest beneficiaries of the last 'Great Tax Cut' have the least to worry about...and shouldn't get a damned dime this time around.
While I shouldn't qualify for anything on this new relief bill, if there is a screw up and "they" end up sending me any amount of money...it won't be with me for long.
If you read/hear about someone wandering around grocery stores, handing out Benjamin's (with gloved hands of course) to those appearing to need it the most (and yes, I realize that one can be fooled by appearances)...I say in advance that I don't know anything about it.
GoodLife
03-27-2020, 07:23 PM
Calculator for coronavirus check
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/coronavirus-stimulus-check-calculator/
Its pretty simple, based on your 2019 (or 2018) tax return and adjusted gross income
Easy to figure out if you're going to be handing out benjamins at Publix soon :1rotfl:
JoMar
03-27-2020, 07:37 PM
yes
The payment is based on your income as reported in your 2019 tax return and if you haven't filed it goes to your 2018 return. I agree that most of us don't need it and shouldn't get it but I also agree that those that are currently getting government aid should not. Their income hasn't changed, what they made in 2019 is what they make now so their life and budget doesn't change. The 1200 won't make that much of a difference. If someone is working now they shouldn't get it now but there should be a mechanism that if they lose their job as a result of the virus impact they can file and receive it. Let the bashing begin.
thomp679
03-27-2020, 08:46 PM
I am just hoping that those on the lower end of the income scale...are the ones getting money.
The amount of annual income, should also include those drawing yearly from investment income.
In other words, as far as I'm concerned, ALL money flowing into a household, regardless of the source...should be used in calculating who is eligible to receive money from this bill.
As far as I'm concerned, I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of it should go toward those who need it the most and whose entire current household income...should not exceed $60K single and $100K total.
What I'm afraid of however, is that those making that amount of money right now may end up losing their jobs permanently and then all bets against us slipping into an actual DEPRESSION...are off. :ohdear:
One thing is for sure though, the biggest beneficiaries of the last 'Great Tax Cut' have the least to worry about...and shouldn't get a damned dime this time around.
While I shouldn't qualify for anything on this new relief bill, if there is a screw up and "they" end up sending me any amount of money...it won't be with me for long.
If you read/hear about someone wandering around grocery stores, handing out Benjamin's (with gloved hands of course) to those appearing to need it the most (and yes, I realize that one can be fooled by appearances)...I say in advance that I don't know anything about it.
I'm with you, ColdNoMore and I find it interesting no discussion on Socialism with this topic. A government handout usually causes a big blowup on this forum and is not favored.
When I first heard about this potential windfall, I thought it would be a good time to buy the bike I was considering. Then I sat back and thought about all those people and their families that just had their livelihood knocked out beneath them. Cornavirus hits and we worry about no toilet paper. Many people have to worry about how to get food on the table and keep roofs over their heads.
There was 3.8m people who filed for unemployment in one week!! At certain points in each of our lives, most of us could have been in their shoes. These people have to worry about money and a pandemic, simultaenously.
Now these government payments may be needed by some here in the Villages, but many of us can survive without it. Most of us should step up and join ColdNoMore in handing out Benjamins in the next few weeks. Seek out your favorite server or retail clerk that has been laid off. See a hard working hero like a nurse or grocery clerk who is risking their health and hand them a bonus. Is the fitness instructor no longer able to help you...maybe help them. There are any number of ways. You can always give it to a foodbank or similar place of assistance, but in this time, maybe direct assistance will better benefit an individual.
Anyhow...keep safe. We will get through this if we help each other, but it will take a bit to get back to normal or at least the new normal.
DianeM
03-27-2020, 09:20 PM
So... I was thinking. If you do receive a stimulus check of $1200 or any amount really, if you are comfortable without it, how about investing it in a stock that you like. That would bolster the company, and face it, most are in trouble. This would ultimately pay you a dividend down the road so both the company and you win. Without companies, there are no jobs and without jobs, we become Venezuela.
After 9/11 When Wall Street took a big hit, there was a campaign in New York to buy “just one share” to start rebuilding. I bought one share of Walt Disney stock and to this day I do receive a quarterly dividend. It’s not much, change really, but it was something to show support after a really tough time. We are facing a horribly rough time head of us.
Northwoods
03-27-2020, 09:43 PM
True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.
I totally agree.
Domenick
03-27-2020, 10:09 PM
You will be giving it back and more in taxes to pay for all this.
thomp679
03-27-2020, 10:46 PM
So... I was thinking. If you do receive a stimulus check of $1200 or any amount really, if you are comfortable without it, how about investing it in a stock that you like.
How can you take a socialistic payment and keep it for yourself. Corporations are not the ones that need a bailout. It is the small business owner and their workers that need the assistance. Try thinking of someone other than how to benefit yourself in these tough times.
BTW, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration, a common misconception about the U.S. economy is that is dominated by huge corporations. Small business makes up roughly 99 percent of all independent enterprises in the country. Small business are defined as those that employ fewer than 500 people. This means small businesses technically dominate the markets in the United States, accounting for 52 percent of all workers.
Find ways to help the true backbone of this country.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-27-2020, 10:50 PM
How can you take a socialistic payment and keep it for yourself. Corporations are not the ones that need a bailout. It is the small business owner and their workers that need the assistance. Try thinking of someone other than how to benefit yourself in these tough times.
BTW, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration, a common misconception about the U.S. economy is that is dominated by huge corporations. Small business makes up roughly 99 percent of all independent enterprises in the country. Small business are defined as those that employ fewer than 500 people. This means small businesses technically dominate the markets in the United States, accounting for 52 percent of all workers.
Find ways to help the true backbone of this country.
Exactly. The point of a STIMULUS check is to SPEND the money. Not save it, not keep it, not invest it. The point of stimulus funds is to re-circulate the economy. Get the money flowing, not just sitting in one spot or building up in investments and stocks.
If you want to support your local bike shop, then BUY that bike. That is what this money is for.
If you want to enjoy take-out every day for the next month, PERFECT. That is exactly what this money is for.
If you want to pay a phone bill so that you can afford to indulge in some new clothes purchased from your local boutique (delivered, of course, since the store is closed) then go for it. That's what the money is for.
So you can support these shops that you love so much, and keep them in business by BUYING from them.
patfla06
03-28-2020, 12:13 AM
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patfla06
03-28-2020, 12:16 AM
Calculator for coronavirus check
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/coronavirus-stimulus-check-calculator/
Its pretty simple, based on your 2019 (or 2018) tax return and adjusted gross income
Easy to figure out if you're going to be handing out benjamins at Publix soon :1rotfl:
I went to the website you provided.
It said a married couple making less than $150K
will be eligible for the checks of $2,400.
That seems ridiculous to me. :ohdear:
sandybill2
03-28-2020, 01:04 AM
We have Family members and a young Friend (Orlando Restaurant Manager) who have already been affected financially by this Pandemic. We have already helped them some and will continue to do so as needed. That is where our checks will go.
Skunky1
03-28-2020, 05:15 AM
The check is to be spent so as to stimulate the economy. Unfortunately some of us are not fortunate enough to receive a higher pay back from Social Security like my brother worked hard all his life and he only got 625 a month! suck it up buttercup
Bay Kid
03-28-2020, 05:30 AM
Why do non citizens get money?
MarkGoldberg
03-28-2020, 05:35 AM
I couldn’t agree with you more. Those who have not lost income should be happy and not use the government’s money. Of course, there are a lot of other things government officials provide themselves resulting in more money which they should not do either.
Heyitsrick
03-28-2020, 05:40 AM
There are no "rules" for how to spend these checks. It's your money. Do with it as you please. You don't think you deserve it? It's a great opportunity for donating to charities. Give it away to loved ones. You can send the money to the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Public Debt. I'm not getting the guilt here. No one says you need to keep it.
That said, there are many small businesses around the area that could easily benefit from people spending this money there. That's helping the local economy. That's helping local employees.
By the way, there are many places in this country where $150K in income (couples) is far from being wealthy. Try living around the NY metro area on that income. Don't even ask about the San Francisco area. If you're single and making up to $75K in NYC, good luck with your living arrangements.
Byte1
03-28-2020, 05:45 AM
I am just hoping that those on the lower end of the income scale...are the ones getting money.
The amount of annual income, should also include those drawing yearly from investment income.
In other words, as far as I'm concerned, ALL money flowing into a household, regardless of the source...should be used in calculating who is eligible to receive money from this bill.
As far as I'm concerned, I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of it should go toward those who need it the most and whose entire current household income...should not exceed $60K single and $100K total.
What I'm afraid of however, is that those making that amount of money right now may end up losing their jobs permanently and then all bets against us slipping into an actual DEPRESSION...are off. :ohdear:
One thing is for sure though, the biggest beneficiaries of the last 'Great Tax Cut' have the least to worry about...and shouldn't get a damned dime this time around.
While I shouldn't qualify for anything on this new relief bill, if there is a screw up and "they" end up sending me any amount of money...it won't be with me for long.
If you read/hear about someone wandering around grocery stores, handing out Benjamin's (with gloved hands of course) to those appearing to need it the most (and yes, I realize that one can be fooled by appearances)...I say in advance that I don't know anything about it.
According to several news outlets, there IS a limit to how much a family can make and receive the money. You said $100K but I believe the limit is $75K, but I may be mistaken. Part of the idea of giving folks money is to put the money back into the economy so that we don't fall into a depression. I don't know if it will work, but they think it will and some experts feel that it is worth the try. Some folks will get the money that others do not believe deserve it. What's so different from welfare recipients getting money that some feel do not deserve it? Some Villagers are on a limited income and to pay extra to shop all over three counties looking for TP or some other item NEEDED or to order delivery or shop on line for items, is an added expense. Just saying.
I am not arguing your opinion, just stating my view on the subject which is not a whole lot different than yours; just looking at it from a different angle.
Chatbrat
03-28-2020, 05:49 AM
If you were living on your income without the $1200.00 you don't need it--it will be in the form of a direct deposit if you are on SS--
Too bad there isn't a method to block the payment--I'm not being selfish, because we are above the income guidelines
Mikee1
03-28-2020, 06:26 AM
Any government in this Country has no money. They can only redistribute hat they have taken from others (you). Wait till you get the bill with interest, new tax rates.
Annie66
03-28-2020, 06:33 AM
The check will be based on your income, a good number of people here will receive nothing, as it should be. Last I read, the income would be based on your 2018 returns, don't know it that changed.
If you filed already for 2019, then the amount of your check is based on 2019. If you have not filed as yet, it will be based on 2018 returns.
Singerlady
03-28-2020, 06:35 AM
I plan on giving it back in tips to those who were affected financially by this situation.
PJackpot
03-28-2020, 06:39 AM
If they can give $25 million dollars to the Kennedy Center, they can give $1,200 to me.
Jackiemc
03-28-2020, 06:39 AM
Me too
Elmartin3
03-28-2020, 06:42 AM
many seniors work to make a living wage. Not easy to figure out who so all who pays taxes deserve the benefit
ladybugsmom
03-28-2020, 06:46 AM
You are so right! That is why we are giving hours to some local charities.
mydavid
03-28-2020, 06:52 AM
Then I suggest that if you get a check, you could give the money to someone or some place, like a dog shelter. Not all seniors on SS live in a place like the Villages, many of them could this money.
Cheapbas
03-28-2020, 06:53 AM
provide as much as $1,200 per person and $2,400 per couple in the U.S. amid the coronavirus outbreak and skyrocketing jobless claims...... and aid would be phased down at adjusted gross income thresholds of $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 per couple
MandoMan
03-28-2020, 06:56 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
I agree with you! (And my first Social Security check is supposed to be deposited in my bank account today!) You know what would be fun? Go to an ATM (several times), get a stack of twenties, and pass them out to people who work in restaurants, stores, etc. Walk around your favorite stores giving one to each employee you spot and saying “Thank you for your service.” We may not need that money, but some people sure do!
DeanFL
03-28-2020, 07:02 AM
When I first heard about the Feds plan for the $1200, my first thought was WHY? We really don't need it - and other retirees with mucho$$$ (than us) in savings, retirement, income certainly don't either. Give more to the families with limited (or no) income now.
The Bill does exclude higher-income folks, which is a good thing.
As fate would have it... I've had a crowned tooth that has had 'discomfort' for about 5 months now. Being a guy, well - you know. Finally it got worse. Went to my dentist and referred me for a root canal. App for the procedure next Tuesday.
Guess how much the charge is (after a small insur discount) $1200. Fate.
Quixote
03-28-2020, 07:07 AM
How can you take a socialistic payment and keep it for yourself. Corporations are not the ones that need a bailout. It is the small business owner and their workers that need the assistance. Try thinking of someone other than how to benefit yourself in these tough times.
BTW, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration, a common misconception about the U.S. economy is that is dominated by huge corporations. Small business makes up roughly 99 percent of all independent enterprises in the country. Small business are defined as those that employ fewer than 500 people. This means small businesses technically dominate the markets in the United States, accounting for 52 percent of all workers.
Find ways to help the true backbone of this country.
I’ve never heard the expression “socialistic payment.” The way I was brought up and choose to live my life, the word “socialistic” implies a recognition that we are part of a “society” rather than “I’m only for myself, and if you’re in trouble through no fault of your own, that’s your problem.” Perhaps I’m missing something?
I do agree that major corporations should not get a bailout. Last year they received a virtually unprecedented huge tax cut. Working people paid—or given the effect of the tax cut on the astronomical federal deficit will continue to pay—for that primarily corporate tax cut. What’s the bottom line difference between a bailout and a tax cut?
I agree too that those who receive a “stimulus payment” (this I understand, not “socialistic payment”) who doesn’t need it should donate it locally, not to a major corporate (so-called) charity. IMHO, the local food pantry is a great idea. When I can manage it, I write a rent check to a local worker I know who has to take time off from work to take a child for cancer treatments, and because her employer has to hire a sub to fill in for her, she is not paid. If I receive a check, that’s where mine will go.
And I’m once again reminded of an economy based on what President Bush Senior described as “voodoo economics”....
Bogie Shooter
03-28-2020, 07:12 AM
They are on very limited income anything puts them in bind. Evidently Only the poor Would understand?
You still didn't say how they were affected financially>
DianeM
03-28-2020, 07:14 AM
Chill people. It was just a thought.
Michael R
03-28-2020, 07:16 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
Then do what we are going to do ...give it to a cause..we are buying defibs.. for our n..hood
Nanny32162
03-28-2020, 07:20 AM
I have wondered the same thing, people who rely on tips for a large portion of their income need this more than. I do. I am looking for a charitable foundation, which provides needed funds to the most needy. I will donate my check to that organization. Yes, I will make sure that it is nit a scam organization.
skip0358
03-28-2020, 07:31 AM
I want to see when all is said and done and everything is open again. When you go out to eat, have a cocktail, get you hair done or a haircut remember these people have been out of work. When the bill comes remember this when you drop your tip on the table or write it on your tab. When I see people leave silver or a buck on the bar after pounding them down remember they've had nothing. OK you can beat me up now! Also remember there are plenty here in TV living on SSI and small if any pensions. That's another reason we have so many different models of homes. Not everyone is making 6 figures on retirement believe me!
Two Bills
03-28-2020, 07:32 AM
Really can't see what all the fuss is about.
If you have too much, you wont get it.
If you get it and do not want it, give it to someone who needs it.
But' if you're a low incomer, out of work, it could be a life saver.
I personally think that only laid off workers should be getting payment, and monthly, not one off.
jonathanb
03-28-2020, 07:36 AM
Based on 2019 if you filed. 2018 if you haven’t filed 2019.
hotdog
03-28-2020, 07:36 AM
Its for everyone with a social security number. The reason is to get the economic engine running smooth again not just to help out people that have become unemployed.
robinsdw2
03-28-2020, 07:42 AM
Couldn’t agree more. My income is not affected. I’ve been wondering about this and writing our congressman as to why. As usual no response.
capecodbob
03-28-2020, 07:46 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
Easy Peasy...send the checks back.
Samfl
03-28-2020, 07:51 AM
You don’t know every retiree’s financial situation. I don’t know too many retiree’s that couldn’t use some extra money especially in these uncertain times. Glad To hear you’re so well off.
msilagy
03-28-2020, 07:55 AM
It's a case of damned if you don't and damned if you do!!! Give it to a needy family so you know where it's going! Geez
Bob45
03-28-2020, 07:56 AM
I plan on increasing my tips to 50% or maybe 100% when things open up.
paulajr
03-28-2020, 07:57 AM
Maybe YOU don’t need it...but many of us need it to pay our bills. Not all Villagers are floating in dough!! My husband got laid off and the $ will help.
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
USMCVNG
03-28-2020, 07:58 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
It is a Stimulus for the Economy to support business' so the, ones that are open can stay open, and others will follow their lead. you may be retired but younger people need to work, and business is down. I don't like the fact that fat cats can by stock cheap, and air lines get support. Warren Buffet is one of the airline stock holders an he don't need the money. he should be like Disney who are paying their people without a check from us the tax payer.
Westie Man
03-28-2020, 08:01 AM
There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.
The primary purpose of the total bill is to provide liquidity, income support for individuals is secondary
VirgoGirl
03-28-2020, 08:08 AM
The privileged tone of the OP makes me cringe.
Isn't it good that we will be able to help local small businesses by spending the check.
4557Spahr
03-28-2020, 08:10 AM
I volunteer at an organization that hears stories of widows or widowers who live on minimal social security. They are in poverty and barely getting by. $1200 will be life changing for them. If you don’t need your $1200 let me know and I will help direct you to some people who desperately need it.
Westie Man
03-28-2020, 08:10 AM
Why do non citizens get money?
Because the Democrats want their votes
Tdsch5012@yahoo.com
03-28-2020, 08:14 AM
If you really don’t need the $$$. Then save it and spend it at local business establishments when they reopen to support them. ☺️
600th Photo Sq
03-28-2020, 08:22 AM
I have a great idea !
Write a letter or message The Kennedy Center to reject the whopping $25 million and donate 1/2 the money to the homeless in San Francisco, and the other half to the New York homeless.
Regor
03-28-2020, 08:24 AM
The privileged tone of the OP makes me cringe.
Isn't it good that we will be able to help local small businesses by spending the check.
Being the OP on this topic, I can tell you that our gross income for 2019 was under 45K. That is for a married couple. And you can't spend money at a local business if they are closed.
Regor
03-28-2020, 08:28 AM
Because the Democrats want their votes
Our leader is taking credit for this whole thing.
BeauJangles
03-28-2020, 08:29 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
You are free to donate your check to a charitable organization.
ColdNoMore
03-28-2020, 08:34 AM
I went to the website you provided.
It said a married couple making less than $150K
will be eligible for the checks of $2,400.
That seems ridiculous to me. :ohdear:
I totally agree.
I definitely shouldn't be getting a penny...as it should be.
ColdNoMore
03-28-2020, 08:38 AM
I agree with you! (And my first Social Security check is supposed to be deposited in my bank account today!) You know what would be fun? Go to an ATM (several times), get a stack of twenties, and pass them out to people who work in restaurants, stores, etc. Walk around your favorite stores giving one to each employee you spot and saying “Thank you for your service.” We may not need that money, but some people sure do!
An excellent idea! :thumbup:
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GoodLife
03-28-2020, 08:39 AM
I totally agree.
I definitely shouldn't be getting a penny...as it should be.
Look on the bright side, if you qualify for a check you can post a video on youtube giving benjamins out at Publix :clap2:
murray5258
03-28-2020, 08:40 AM
our ss is so low we don't even file a return. our medical bills are so that we could use this money to pay some of them.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-28-2020, 08:47 AM
If you were living on your income without the $1200.00 you don't need it--it will be in the form of a direct deposit if you are on SS--
Too bad there isn't a method to block the payment--I'm not being selfish, because we are above the income guidelines
It's not a "payment." It's not a work bonus. It's stimulus money. The point is to SPEND it. Hopefully you don't "need" it. But if you do, it'll help pay a bill or two. If you don't need it, THAT IS AWESOME! SPEND IT! Spend it on people who DO need it. Spend it on restaurants and supermarkets that are struggling because their employees are being laid off, reduced hours, having to work overtime when they're only part-time employees, just flat out need a bonus for the major butt-kicking they're receiving right now.
Give $1200 cash to the guy who delivers your gourmet dinner the week after the deposit arrives in your account, as a tip.
That's what this is FOR. It is for two things only:
1) for people who need it, to relieve some of that need.
2) for people who don't need it, to spend at places they want to see kept in business.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-28-2020, 08:52 AM
I have wondered the same thing, people who rely on tips for a large portion of their income need this more than. I do. I am looking for a charitable foundation, which provides needed funds to the most needy. I will donate my check to that organization. Yes, I will make sure that it is nit a scam organization.
You solved the issue of wondering what to do with the money in your first sentence, and then decided on a different solution. Seems pretty illogical and roundabout.
Why not give it to those people who rely on tips? Buy something from someone who relies on tips - and TIP them. Delivery people rely on tips. You can splurge on take-out every single day for a month, AND tip incredibly well in the process, use up every cent of that stimulus money, and still have enough left over for gas in the car when the virus has run its course and the country is back up and running again.
DavidK
03-28-2020, 08:55 AM
If fighting this virus is a war, we need to realize that time is more important than money. One of the expectations of government is to protect the people. If they had to take the time to ask or calculate who wants or needs the money, it would take a year. As a result of their quick action, the money will get to those who need it as well as to a percentage of those who do not. When the country is open for normal commerce again, spend it to help those hurt by the shutdown, pay off a debt, give it to a charity, or save it for a rainy day. There are many decisions made during war that are made to win the war, not to see that all is fair and even. Have you ever seen war videos of our troops pushing perfectly good helicopters off the deck of an aircraft carrier and into the ocean because the pilots and mechanics were being sent home to their families and there was no inexpensive way to get the equipment back to the states?
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-28-2020, 08:56 AM
Look on the bright side, if you qualify for a check you can post a video on youtube giving benjamins out at Publix :clap2:
Hey CNM let me know when you get the check - I'll give you my schedule so you can slip me one of those benjamins while I'm bagging your groceries!
Two Bills
03-28-2020, 08:56 AM
Payment is to stimulate the economy.
But with a large majority of 'goods' imported, whose economy is being stimulated the most?
VirgoGirl
03-28-2020, 08:57 AM
Being the OP on this topic, I can tell you that our gross income for 2019 was under 45K. That is for a married couple. And you can't spend money at a local business if they are closed.
Online ordering? Buy a gift card?
Maybe stores will open again?
kkeennyy
03-28-2020, 08:59 AM
Pay it Forward to our waiters that tack care of us that basically live of the TIPS they like i`am going to do when i get the money.....
greenflash245
03-28-2020, 09:00 AM
because you are a u s retiree
HimandMe
03-28-2020, 09:02 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
Nothing to prevent you from giving it to Salvation Army or those in need. In this crisis our minds need to be on solutions.
Tnbrewer
03-28-2020, 09:02 AM
Bingo!
I don’t have a good pension or my wife.
Don’t want your money send it to me and I will put it towards my mortgage.
Have a lot of things I could use it for to buy and stimulate the economy.
I say
Thank you mr government for the gift
I only worked 45 years and paid taxes every year I worked
I will look at it as a rebate 😎
Texased
03-28-2020, 09:03 AM
Why are retirees getting a check? The same reason the Kennedy Center is getting $25 million. Politics.
Exactly ! :boom:
davem4616
03-28-2020, 09:04 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
so donate your $1200 check to a local food bank
think outside the box
ColdNoMore
03-28-2020, 09:09 AM
our ss is so low we don't even file a return. our medical bills are so that we could use this money to pay some of them.
Sending good wishes your way, that your situation will change for the better...very soon.
Good luck. :)
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Johnsocat
03-28-2020, 09:12 AM
Agree not everyone here retired with large pensions and or SSI checks, some have also lost their spouses and their incomes so they could certainly use the check when it comes. It's based on your filing income whether or not you get one and how much it will be period .
The point is that this virus has not changed your financial situation. The relief was supposed to assist those whose monthly incomes have been affected...
Plain&peanut
03-28-2020, 09:15 AM
I love the idea of people who are getting checks that are doing fine without it, donate to a needy cause. Excellent idea
Marvic 1
03-28-2020, 09:20 AM
I plan on giving it back in tips to those who were affected financially by this situation.
I believe those that are affected will also receive the $1,200 check, PLUS 100% pay they were making at their job from the unemployment office every week...
rjsantos592
03-28-2020, 09:20 AM
Then maybe you should just accept it and give it to someone that needs it. Or maybe give it to your favorite politician so they can add it to their stimulus package raise.
Ritabob
03-28-2020, 09:21 AM
I would suggest that you donate your check to someone who is laid off since you don’t seem to understand why the checks are being issued.
Johnsocat
03-28-2020, 09:21 AM
I am not 100% sure which side of the fence you are coming down on. It appears you are suggesting people receiving SSI do not need the check because their income situation has not changed. This concept could be expanded further. There are millions of folks that have not lost their jobs and they will be getting the checks as well. Because they have not lost their jobs should they be denied the payment as well?
Yes. This is supposed to be a covid crisis assistance bill. Any money's having nothing to do with the effects of the virus across the spectrum should not have been included, i.e. libraries, planned parenthood, PBS radio, etc. $2 trillion? This money is corrupted and is definitely not "free". It is wasteful and in some cases fraudulent spending by those we elected to be trusted stewards of our hard earned dollars
Pommom91
03-28-2020, 09:24 AM
You will only get a check if you make under $75,000 a year. It’s my understanding that this will be based on the 2018 return unless you have already filed the 2019.
Ritabob
03-28-2020, 09:25 AM
The checks are being issued to everyone so when we are over this crisis, you go out and spend them to stimulate the economy. That’s why people who are earning up to $75000 per year are getting checks for the full amount.
skip0358
03-28-2020, 09:29 AM
The point is that this virus has not changed your financial situation. The relief was supposed to assist those whose monthly incomes have been affected...
Trust it will go to a good cause at least in our house!
jjonesmim
03-28-2020, 09:30 AM
MANY Retired people in The Villages are still working part-time for financial reasons but currently furloughed, and MANY Retired people outside of our paradise barely survive on their SS. People in either situation will appreciate the reprieve of additional funds. And the money will be spent ... further stimulating the economy to rebound. If you receive the funds and don't need them, then feel blessed and donate them....PLENTY of options for that! Honestly not a dumb plan. (But I do agree......$ to the Kennedy Center .... dumb plan!)
stan the man
03-28-2020, 09:32 AM
I will send my check back right after big business sends theirs back
Rosebud1949
03-28-2020, 09:34 AM
For those on a low income SS, it will be helpful to many to pay the Villages the CDD fee FOR NON USE OF THE SPORTS FACILITIES they are still going to charge us for...... they could use this time to get the REPAIRS done to ALL these facilities. Some of the complexes at Softball, the stands, toilets, and the courts at Pickleball are filthy and disgusting. Trolleys that had water dispensers were shameful, and needed disinfecting before, more so now, not cleaned for months. No wonder we have a virus. the further down the Villages, builds in Sumter, the more the older places get forgotten with maintenance.............. Been here 12.5 years.. trust me....
Many retirees have a hard time living with their SS checks and can use the money. If you don't need it then donate it to someone who does. Like the local restaurant workers or soap kitchens.
villageuser
03-28-2020, 09:48 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
You can 1) return it to the government, 2) give it to a charity, 3) give it to someone you know who needs it, 4) go to go fund me.com and send it to someone whose cause you support, 5) order take-out and delivery and each time give the worker a very good tip.
No one said you have to keep it if you don’t need it. You decide how you can help your community with it. The retirees who can sure use it, are very grateful for it.
OhioBuckeye
03-28-2020, 09:53 AM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
I'm like you, I really don't need it but I'm sure there's some people that live just on S.S. Maybe not in TV but I do know some people that live on just S.S. & when they get their checks they're gone in about a week from paying bills & groceries. Regor, we're the fortunate ones that live OK. But I worry a little about what I have in my savings in the bank. I know some people say it won't get so bad that the govt. will start using the banks for extra cash. I always felt if the Federal Govt. has their fingers into the banks which they do they can take what they want whether you want them to or not. Personally I don't think it'll get that bad, but you never know! I agree with your comment, thanks for your opinion.
Nancy@Pinellas
03-28-2020, 09:57 AM
It’s a stimulus package... to jump start the economy. Or it could be a bribe for your vote.
Marvic 1
03-28-2020, 10:07 AM
It’s a stimulus package... to jump start the economy. Or it could be a bribe for your vote.
You were doing so GOOD until you entered your last sentence... :shocked:
coastalnh
03-28-2020, 10:08 AM
The check will be based on your income, a good number of people here will receive nothing, as it should be. Last I read, the income would be based on your 2018 returns, don't know it that changed.
You are misinformed about this. If you make between $0 and $75000, you get the $1200 check. After the income of $75000, you get less. Most of us on SS will be getting a check.
Fred2016
03-28-2020, 10:38 AM
Why is Boeing getting 17 billion dollars
I’ll take my $1,200
Shamp
03-28-2020, 10:41 AM
As previously mentioned, there are seniors, many of whom are living on 1200. per month, especially those who are single. I'm happy for you that you don't need it. Great opportunity for you to do something good for others! Contribute to Corona research, the project to feed the less fortunate school children who depend on the generosity of people who make sure they get the food they need, so they can learn. There are a million options. Please do us all a favor and let us know what you end up doing with your excess $1200.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-28-2020, 10:48 AM
I think the intent is for you to SPEND IT!
It’s then a win-win...helping you and struggling businesses to get people BACK to work.
Exactly. It's to spend on products and services that you might not otherwise purchase. That will boost business and keep people working.
murray5258
03-28-2020, 11:03 AM
i am hoping we get our checks. we don't get enough i S.S. to even file income tax . this would help pay for some of our medical bills. My hat gets tipped to the people who don't need the money.
DianeM
03-28-2020, 11:23 AM
How can you take a socialistic payment and keep it for yourself. Corporations are not the ones that need a bailout. It is the small business owner and their workers that need the assistance. Try thinking of someone other than how to benefit yourself in these tough times.
BTW, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration, a common misconception about the U.S. economy is that is dominated by huge corporations. Small business makes up roughly 99 percent of all independent enterprises in the country. Small business are defined as those that employ fewer than 500 people. This means small businesses technically dominate the markets in the United States, accounting for 52 percent of all workers.
Find ways to help the true backbone of this country.
I’m not keeping it. I’m putting it back into the companies that provide most of what we use. My ROI is minuscule but that’s not the point anyway.
Small business is great but they don’t provide all that much employment. The deli can maybe hire 2 workers at minimum wage where larger establishments hire many more at better wages.
Do small businesses provide you with your light bulbs, your car, your medications or even the cereal you had for breakfast? Of course not. And that’s why we need to bolster all phases of the economy including farmers.
DianeM
03-28-2020, 11:33 AM
Why is Boeing getting 17 billion dollars
I’ll take my $1,200
Do you or anyone else you know ever planning to fly somewhere again? That’s why Boeing and Delta and American are getting money.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-28-2020, 11:34 AM
i am hoping we get our checks. we don't get enough i S.S. to even file income tax . this would help pay for some of our medical bills. My hat gets tipped to the people who don't need the money.
If you didn't file a tax return for 2019, you won't get a check.
I didn't know that there is a minimum income level to file. I thought all income is supposed to be reported. In fact, if your income is that low, you;'re probably eligible for earn income credits in which the government would send you money.
golfing eagles
03-28-2020, 11:40 AM
If you didn't file a tax return for 2019, you won't get a check.
I didn't know that there is a minimum income level to file. I thought all income is supposed to be reported. In fact, if your income is that low, you;'re probably eligible for earn income credits in which the government would send you money.
2019 returns aren't due until July 15, so do you mean filed 2018?
skip0358
03-28-2020, 11:42 AM
True some people are going to need it to help pay for all the stuff they’ve been hoarding from the Supermarket. Repair job needed. it will be spent and then some!
cemlopez
03-28-2020, 11:42 AM
Have you check the value of any of your investments lately?, also I know that there are quite a few retires which live in a very tie budget, also that money will be feed right back into circulation via expenditures.
retiredguy123
03-28-2020, 11:45 AM
The income eligibilty to get a check is based on your 2018 tax return. But, I think if you are on social security, you will get a check even if you didn't need to file a 2018 return. Also, the earned income credit only applies when you have earned income.
golfing eagles
03-28-2020, 11:45 AM
i am hoping we get our checks. we don't get enough i S.S. to even file income tax . this would help pay for some of our medical bills. My hat gets tipped to the people who don't need the money.
I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.
DianeM
03-28-2020, 11:55 AM
I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.
Nailed It !
GoodLife
03-28-2020, 12:07 PM
I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.
Gee that's funny, whenever I go to my local gas/convenience store I am always waiting in line behind fat white villagers buying 12 packs, 50 lotto games and a pack of camels who then jump into their $12k golf carts.
Steven carrier
03-28-2020, 12:09 PM
I'm using mine to buy tp, paper towels and a gun with ammo.
coastalnh
03-28-2020, 12:13 PM
Its amazing to me that so many do not understand the reasoning behind the shecks that we will be receiving. These are not meant for helping those affected by the virus (ie,those that have been laid off). The checks are for SPENDING by everyone with the purpose of stimulating the economy. Hence the name - Stimulus Checks. Those who have lost jobs are being helped by the longer Unemployment Compensation times and upgraded minimum $ amounts.
golfing eagles
03-28-2020, 12:32 PM
Gee that's funny, whenever I go to my local gas/convenience store I am always waiting in line behind fat white villagers buying 12 packs, 50 lotto games and a pack of camels who then jump into their $12k golf carts.
Yes, but they're buying it with their own money, not the taxpayer's
golfing eagles
03-28-2020, 12:36 PM
Its amazing to me that so many do not understand the reasoning behind the shecks that we will be receiving. These are not meant for helping those affected by the virus (ie,those that have been laid off). The checks are for SPENDING by everyone with the purpose of stimulating the economy. Hence the name - Stimulus Checks. Those who have lost jobs are being helped by the longer Unemployment Compensation times and upgraded minimum $ amounts.
That's true IN THEORY, but when they give checks to people who don't need he money, it just ends up in their portfolio. I will be spending the same amount of money whether I get a check or not, so I plan on giving it to people WHO NEED IT---they're the ones that will spend it. In that scenario, it's OK to give it to people who are marginal on their SS alone, since they will spend it as well.
mooned
03-28-2020, 12:39 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
I may mistaken but have seen this on several web sites.
The $1200 checks will be payed back in the 2020 tax year as a deduction on our refunds or a increase in our tax debt. I read this to mean that if I was going to receive a $2,000 tax return next year I would first be debited the $1,200, and only receive $500 for my 2020 tax return. Not sure how they plan to handle the people who actually own taxes or do not receive a refund greater than the $1,200 but I for one plan on banking my $1,200 until I know for sure I won't be charged for it next year. Experience has shown that there is seldom a free lunch.
retiredguy123
03-28-2020, 12:42 PM
I may mistaken but have seen this on several web sites.
The $1200 checks will be payed back in the 2020 tax year as a deduction on our refunds or a increase in our tax debt. I read this to mean that if I was going to receive a $2,000 tax return next year I would first be debited the $1,200, and only receive $500 for my 2020 tax return. Not sure how they plan to handle the people who actually own taxes or do not receive a refund greater than the $1,200 but I for one plan on banking my $1,200 until I know for sure I won't be charged for it next year. Experience has shown that there is seldom a free lunch.
According to Clark Howard, who has read the entire bill, the checks will not be used to offset any current year or back taxes owed.
ccgrier
03-28-2020, 01:13 PM
If you don't need it don't cash the check if it come's by mail or help someone in need.
amlvarni
03-28-2020, 01:36 PM
Because we are able to retire and be financially secure, we then can do things like donate any "extra" money to, say ... local medical facilities to purchase need supplies or any NGO that helps those in need. I think this always applies, especially today: “‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me’”. Enjoy sharing your wealth!
bear5770
03-28-2020, 01:46 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
If you don’t need it, may I suggest you use it to support local businesses and to feed those in your area who are hungry.
dewilson58
03-28-2020, 01:49 PM
If you don’t need it, may I suggest you use it to support local businesses and to feed those in your area who are hungry.
:bigbow:
Exactly................spend it, donate it into the economy.
NavyVet
03-28-2020, 01:52 PM
I'm sure hairdressers/dog groomers/housekeepers have lost clients or are not working at all due to closures. I'm also going to order takeout and give big tips to all the servers at our favorite restaurants. Then whatever is left I will send to local animal shelters and rescues.
Another idea to give to the needy: Wildwood school district is always hurting for school supplies, etc. A lot of the kids are at or near poverty levels. Just a thought.
jryley2@yahoo.com
03-28-2020, 01:55 PM
Donate it
Marvic 1
03-28-2020, 02:03 PM
You should be more worryed about how many millons of this stimulus tax payers money will be stolen then to point your finger at those that collect SS and put them into shame!
DianeM
03-28-2020, 02:21 PM
I'm using mine to buy tp, paper towels and a gun with ammo.
Great idea
Bertram00
03-28-2020, 03:54 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
It's called a stimulus check. The idea is that it not only helps those that need the extra help, but also stimulates the economy in being spent, whether by you or someone who can use the help.
skip0358
03-28-2020, 04:23 PM
All those posting on here how we & they don't need it and it should go to this one or that one. Remember that when you go out to eat, have a few cocktails, get your hair or nails done, they're the ones who've been out of work or at least some of them and will need the money!
Nick B
03-28-2020, 04:36 PM
Yes
Snoopy
03-28-2020, 05:03 PM
I DEFINIETLY NEED IT! I'm truly glad you don't need it. My SS check isn't enough, so I've been using retirement. Now I hate to take it out since I've lost so much. Donate if you can. Stay safe.
DARFAP
03-28-2020, 05:12 PM
Well then, donate it.
Topspinmo
03-28-2020, 05:16 PM
I agree with you! (And my first Social Security check is supposed to be deposited in my bank account today!) You know what would be fun? Go to an ATM (several times), get a stack of twenties, and pass them out to people who work in restaurants, stores, etc. Walk around your favorite stores giving one to each employee you spot and saying “Thank you for your service.” We may not need that money, but some people sure do!
Well, I’m not going to give my savings away I worked for for 48 years. I might need it.
Topspinmo
03-28-2020, 05:23 PM
Our leader is taking credit for this whole thing.
You’re opinion
Topspinmo
03-28-2020, 05:27 PM
You still didn't say how they were affected financially>
I can see why you don’t understand.
Bogie Shooter
03-28-2020, 05:28 PM
our ss is so low we don't even file a return. our medical bills are so that we could use this money to pay some of them.
Because of the virus?
Topspinmo
03-28-2020, 05:32 PM
I totally agree.
I definitely shouldn't be getting a penny...as it should be.
In some ares where taxes have been out of control for decades 150K not that much.
Bogie Shooter
03-28-2020, 05:36 PM
I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.
So well stated...………………………..
Topspinmo
03-28-2020, 05:39 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
If you’re living in villages IMO 98% don’t need it, look around you when you get out of the land of OZ. Plenty of hard working poor people just trying to survive.
Nucky
03-28-2020, 05:59 PM
Everybody has a work-life and family or health story prior to finding this place to finish the last 30 yards of life into the End Zone. Some lived Charmed Lives Some did not.
That being said lets turn the situation around. Virus hits, 2 Trillion Dollar Stimulation Package released and no money Zero, Zippety Do Da to Senior Citizens and Disabled People. You wouldn't be able to go to Publix without an Umbrella because of the Tears that would be a flowing! There is no way that anybody can win no matter what they do nowadays. So if you don't want the check burn it. If you don't like that cash it and spread it around. If you need it use it. It's coming sooner or later. If it doesn't make your day they have it make someone else's day. Stay healthy till this thing passes (Listen To Those Who Know) or it will be us that passes.
I have a plan for our gigantic Atlantic City Windfall. It's private cause those that profess they will spread it around are full of bull! The world can't even handle this without controversy! :pray:
I wonder how many Little White Crosses you can buy with 12 Benjamin's? :1rotfl:
ts12755
03-28-2020, 06:40 PM
Everyone's getting a check working or not working retired or disabled as long as your income is under $75,000 a year
pcacace
03-28-2020, 07:38 PM
More than likely, you had to file a w-2 form to show income, or loss of income. We need a better explanation on how this is going to work!
John Barracato
03-28-2020, 08:12 PM
It’s a stimulus check to stimulate the economy. Spend it at our local businesses or donate it to a local charity.
Veiragirl
03-28-2020, 09:16 PM
I plan to find local folks and donate it
DeafDeaf
03-28-2020, 09:33 PM
Both White House and Congress hope that you all will spend a few trillion dollars to get the economy from being crashed!
thomp679
03-28-2020, 09:57 PM
Its amazing to me that so many do not understand the reasoning behind the shecks that we will be receiving. These are not meant for helping those affected by the virus (ie,those that have been laid off). The checks are for SPENDING by everyone with the purpose of stimulating the economy. Hence the name - Stimulus Checks. Those who have lost jobs are being helped by the longer Unemployment Compensation times and upgraded minimum $ amounts.
You did a good job justifying to yourself that spending the money on yourself if you have not been impacted is the best use of the funds. Yes, if you spend it on yourself, it will provide stimulus to the economy. However, if you gave the money to those that have been laid off or in more need, I have a suspicion that they will also spend the money to help the economy. Then if you spend your existing funds on your needs, then you really will provide additional stimulus into the economy. Win-Win.
BTW, the recovery will be longer than most are estimating so you are fooling yourself if you think that those that have lost their jobs will be remotely made whole by the extended unemployment funds. The majority of us Villagers should count our blessings.
Polar Bear
03-28-2020, 10:26 PM
You did a good job justifying to yourself that spending the money on yourself if you have not been impacted is the best use of the funds...
And you’ve done a good job of convincing yourself that you’re wiser and more selfless than the poor, ignorant common folk out there.
collie1228
03-29-2020, 07:35 AM
I don't "need" it either, but I can imagine the firestorm that would result if the leadership of this country said, "No checks to senior citizens as they don't need them". It's a ridiculous premise that older Americans shouldn't be part of this financial stimulus package. I plan to send the money to my kids and suggest anyone who feels they don't need the money to the same or donate it to some worthy cause.
MEbner2805
03-29-2020, 08:06 AM
Oh don’t be stupid! There are strict restrictions on those checks! Full Retirees will never get them! Only working people who lost jobs! The details of this will be out soon! Nobody retired is expecting this money! 🤦*♀️
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-29-2020, 08:11 AM
Oh don’t be stupid! There are strict restrictions on those checks! Full Retirees will never get them! Only working people who lost jobs! The details of this will be out soon! Nobody retired is expecting this money! 🤦*♀️
You are absolutely positively completely entirely incorrect.
This has nothing to do with whether or not you're working or retired.
It has to do with your actual INCOME. If your retirement income is low, then you will receive the check. There are people who live on pensions, who are not working because they're retired, but their pensions aren't high enough to hit that cap of $99,999 per person. And so, they will receive a stimulus check.
There are people who are retired, live on pensions, and don't collect social security yet (you have to be 62 or older to collect, many people retire before they reach that age even if they're not wealthy).
There are people who collect social security but no pension, and their social security checks are modest and under that threshhold.
There are people who are not working, and not retired yet. They'll be getting a check too. This isn't money people are getting because they've "earned" it. It is money people are getting so the citizens can boost the local economy and prevent more stores from closing, and prevent more people in the unemployment lines.
Tom53
03-29-2020, 08:16 AM
Hope that was sarcasm!
retiredguy123
03-29-2020, 08:31 AM
Oh don’t be stupid! There are strict restrictions on those checks! Full Retirees will never get them! Only working people who lost jobs! The details of this will be out soon! Nobody retired is expecting this money! 🤦*♀️
Here is a link to Clark Howard's website that has a lot of information about the checks. People on Social Security will get checks.
What You Need to Know About Your Upcoming Stimulus Check - Clark Howard (https://clark.com/personal-finance-credit/coronavirus-stimulus-checks/)
GoodLife
03-29-2020, 08:33 AM
What a lovely bunch of comments! We have:
virtue signalers telling us they will hand out benjamins at Publix
cranky old men demanding proof that virus must have affected you financially to get check
people who say they don't need it, will donate
people who say they need it, will spend it
If you followed this legislation closely, you would know a few facts
Original bill drafted by republicans in senate had means testing at the top and the bottom, no check if you made over 100k, smaller check ($600) if you collected SS but did not have at least $2500 in additional earnings.
After negotiations with Schumer and Pelosi, who screamed unfair to include the bottom means testing and wanted a whole truckload of other crap added to the bill. In the end they compromised and we have the bill as signed into law.
Spend it, donate it however you want. Hopefully it helps revive the economy.
dillywho
03-29-2020, 09:13 AM
What I am seeing here from many is the usual knee-jerk reaction. No matter what, some are not going to be happy with what our government does or doesn't do. Maybe many here don't "need" the money. Fine. But can you imagine how long it would take for anyone who desperately needs it to get it if there had to be additional screening first? Some people here may have children that have been put out of work and need it. Send it to them. Buy food and supplies specifically to donate to food banks, etc. Pay someone's hospital bill whose insurance doesn't stretch that far. There are so many ways to put this money to use.
How about putting the money to good use, instead of complaining about it? It's a done deal, so now go from there. Complaining accomplishes nothing good.
msm1948
03-29-2020, 09:27 AM
Because we pay taxes to. They want us to spend it to help the economy
OhioBuckeye
03-29-2020, 09:49 AM
Why is Boeing getting 17 billion dollars
I’ll take my $1,200
They’re a business, you’re 1 person!
Marvic 1
03-29-2020, 10:08 AM
Oh don’t be stupid! There are strict restrictions on those checks! Full Retirees will never get them! Only working people who lost jobs! The details of this will be out soon! Nobody retired is expecting this money! 🤦*♀️
Sorry to inform you but that is totally BS my friend...
Rapscallion St Croix
03-29-2020, 10:12 AM
The best way to get this money into the hands of those who need it is to spend it wisely...when it is safe to do so. Buy from a produce stand. Order food from a Mom and Pop operation. Tip when appropriate. Have your home power washed. Surely there are local businesses whose service/product you can use.
TexaninVA
03-29-2020, 07:23 PM
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
If you don't need the money, then donate it to a supermarket worker, first responder or health care worker.
Bay Kid
03-30-2020, 06:04 AM
Why is the Kennedy Center getting money? We can't even go inside.
CFrance
03-30-2020, 08:57 AM
Why is the Kennedy Center getting money? We can't even go inside.
Plus they just announced they will not be paying their National Symphony Orchestra performers after next week. Despite the fact that it is in their contract that there must be 6-weeks notice for stopping salary.
Marvic 1
03-30-2020, 09:26 AM
How about this one -
$350 Million for: Relocation of immigrants and illegal aliens (to a comfortable place near you)...
TexaninVA
03-30-2020, 10:07 AM
How about this one -
$350 Million for: Relocation of immigrants and illegal aliens (to a comfortable place near you)...
That is literal insanity ... WTH is wrong with people in DC?? That makes me furious.:MOJE_whot:
Nell57
03-30-2020, 10:20 AM
When the check arrives go to local businesses and buy gift cards.
Donate the cards to a food bank or charity. You have stimulated the economy and supported your fellow man.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-30-2020, 12:19 PM
When the check arrives go to local businesses and buy gift cards.
Donate the cards to a food bank or charity. You have stimulated the economy and supported your fellow man.
This is an awesome idea! I'll earmark $100 for that out of mine. Maybe 10 $10 gift cards to Publix and bring all 10 to a food pantry, to give out to those hardest hit by poverty. That doesn't sound like much to most of you but...
You get a jar of spaghetti sauce on sale, a BOGO of spaghetti (at $1.49 total for 2 pounds), half a pound of ground chuck, and salad greens - assuming the household has oil and vinegar in the pantry...
That's dinner for 4, for 2 nights. There's likely to be enough left over from that $10 for 4 bananas - fry those up with some brown sugar and butter, and call it dessert.
RonaldJ
03-30-2020, 03:51 PM
I don't need it either but our kids that are out of work and we have to help out do!What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!
retiredguy123
03-30-2020, 04:00 PM
It's hard for even the Federal Government to spend $2 trillion without wasting some of it. Here is some interesting math: $2 trillion ÷ 320 million people. That is $6,250 for every man, woman, and child in the country.
Polar Bear
03-30-2020, 06:34 PM
Oh don’t be stupid! There are strict restrictions on those checks! Full Retirees will never get them! Only working people who lost jobs! The details of this will be out soon! Nobody retired is expecting this money! 🤦*♀️
When you make such insulting and absolute statements, you should at least try to be right. Your ignorance just adds to the absurdity of your post.
prettyw102@aol.com
03-30-2020, 07:55 PM
I agree with you 100%. I was thinking the same thing!
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-30-2020, 09:17 PM
I agree with you 100%. I was thinking the same thing!
Who are you agreeing 100% with? Please either use the "reply with quote" button feature when replying to someone specific, or post their name in your reply, so people know who you're talking to.
tophcfa
03-30-2020, 09:26 PM
Because retirees are people too, and many desperately need the money. Many retirees live on a fixed income that goes up by X every year, while their expenses go up by X squared. Those retirees that are fortunate enough to not need the money are free to donate it as they wish.
manaboutown
03-30-2020, 11:23 PM
I am glad we US retirees are receiving checks.
skip0358
03-31-2020, 06:55 AM
Hate to break some peoples bubble but there are many people in TV that work to supplement their pensions or social security checks because they need to make ends meet. Yea the younger people lost their jobs but so did a lot of older people living here that needed to work. Not only the Bars & Restaurants are closed but many of the stores are also closing now. Remember that when we go back out to play again. Remember that when you ask why are retirees getting these checks? We're not all rich and well off,we don't all have a stock portfolio or huge amounts of money stashed away. There are those that are or were living day to day. If you were successful in the workforce good for you. Not everyone was which is why some people left where they were and moved here. The Villages is at least half of what I was paying up North and I couldn't stay there so we moved. I know I'm not alone so remember that!
ChicagoNative
03-31-2020, 07:57 AM
The latest info is that the stimulus is based on 2018 filing. If you’ve already filed 2019, they will use those those more current figures.
Ours is a situation that I’ve not seen discussed so far: We sold our longtime northern home in 2019 and downsized to a small condo. We made a profit which artificially inflated our 2019 income and resulted in a huge tax amount due. We already filed and paid, so we will not qualify. $2400 isn’t going to make or break us, but it would’ve been nice to have, because we certainly don’t make what our 2019 return shows.
At this point, we’re thankful for our health and praying for the whole world.
CFrance
03-31-2020, 08:09 AM
The latest info is that the stimulus is based on 2018 filing. If you’ve already filed 2019, they will use those those more current figures.
Ours is a situation that I’ve not seen discussed so far: We sold our longtime northern home in 2019 and downsized to a small condo. We made a profit which artificially inflated our 2019 income and resulted in a huge tax amount due. We already filed and paid, so we will not qualify. $2400 isn’t going to make or break us, but it would’ve been nice to have, because we certainly don’t make what our 2019 return shows.
At this point, we’re thankful for our health and praying for the whole world.
Our son has a similar situation. Because his company was bought by a competitor, each person who had been there a number of years received two shares of stock, resulting in his making $1 over the amount. That was just a one time deal.
When I learned they would base the stimulus check on the last income tax return you filed, I emailed him. He was set to push the button to send his tax return in but will now wait until the July deadline in hopes that he might receive a stimulus check.
He is hardworking and frugal, never bought a new car in his life, makes ends meet on his normal income, put his windfall in savings. If he doesn't get a check and I do, he will get mine. We don't need the money, and he could use it. We already give a generous portion of our earnings to charity and spend a boatload of our income locally.
I am so tired of the last two "tax reforms" benefiting the wealthy and taking it out on the middle class.
Kerry Azz
04-01-2020, 06:13 AM
The check will be based on your income, a good number of people here will receive nothing, as it should be. Last I read, the income would be based on your 2018 returns, don't know it that changed.
That’s just not how it’s going to work, if you are on SS and retired you will get a $1200. Stimulus check, if you are a dead beat parent you won’t get a check. Anyone that feels they don’t need or deserve the check can always donate it to a the Wildwood food pantry or another local charity.:MOJE_whot:
dewilson58
04-01-2020, 06:21 AM
that’s just not how it’s going to work, if you are on ss and retired you will get a $1200. stimulus check, if you are a dead beat parent you won’t get a check. Anyone that feels they don’t need or deserve the check can always donate it to a the wildwood food pantry or another local charity.:moje_whot:
maybe.
Jayhawk
04-01-2020, 08:05 AM
The latest info is that the stimulus is based on 2018 filing. If you’ve already filed 2019, they will use those those more current figures.
Ours is a situation that I’ve not seen discussed so far: We sold our longtime northern home in 2019 and downsized to a small condo. We made a profit which artificially inflated our 2019 income and resulted in a huge tax amount due. We already filed and paid, so we will not qualify. $2400 isn’t going to make or break us, but it would’ve been nice to have, because we certainly don’t make what our 2019 return shows.
At this point, we’re thankful for our health and praying for the whole world.
As long as you lived in your primary home for 2 of the last 5 years, the first $500,000 of PROFIT is tax-free. Unless you exceeded the cost basis (purchase price plus improvements) by $500k you should not have tax due.
If you didn't have over $500,000 profit after taking out the cost and improvements, you can file an amended return and get your money back.
If you have a capital gain from the sale of your main home, you may qualify to exclude up to $250,000 of that gain from your income, or up to $500,000 of that gain if you file a joint return with your spouse. Publication 523, Selling Your Home provides rules and worksheets
Selling a House? Avoid Taxes on Capital Gains on Real Estate in 2019-2020 - NerdWallet (https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/taxes/selling-home-capital-gains-tax/)
blueash
04-01-2020, 04:20 PM
Posted by Tom53
The check will be based on your income, a good number of people here will receive nothing, as it should be. Last I read, the income would be based on your 2018 returns, don't know it that changed.
Guessing you never read the details
That’s just not how it’s going to work, if you are on SS and retired you will get a $1200. Stimulus check
Right from the mouth of the IRS
Economic impact payments: What you need to know | Internal Revenue Service (https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/economic-impact-payments-what-you-need-to-know)
Who is eligible for the economic impact payment?
Tax filers with adjusted gross income up to $75,000 for individuals and up to $150,000 for married couples filing joint returns will receive the full payment. For filers with income above those amounts, the payment amount is reduced by $5 for each $100 above the $75,000/$150,000 thresholds.
I am not typically required to file a tax return. Can I still receive my payment?
Yes. People who typically do not file a tax return will need to file a simple tax return to receive an economic impact payment.
So you need to have filed in 2018 or 2019 and there are income limits. It is simply not true that anyone receiving Soc Sec is getting a check. Being retired or not retired plays no role in the process.
Bowtorc
04-01-2020, 06:08 PM
Donate it,send it back or don't cash it. Let others do what they want. Climb down from your pedestal .
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