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[Guy&Connie1103]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?

[retiredguy123]

I think the problem is that the rec centers are closed. The people who work in the rec center are also in charge of monitoring the pools, and testing the water. Apparently, there is no need to monitor the pickle ball courts.

[champion6]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?The Villages Recreation and Parks (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Recreation/recreation.aspx)
They are available to answer all your questions.

[CFrance]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?
Where did you see that? There's a limit of ten per court. Signs are on the court doors. Perhaps if you report it to the rec Dept they will take a count and possibly close the courts.

[xcaligirl]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?
I totally agree! No 6' distancing at the PB courts

[village dreamer]

pools are close because of people setting and touching chairs and table.

[golfing eagles]

Where did you see that? There's a limit of ten per court. Signs are on the court doors. Perhaps if you report it to the rec Dept they will take a count and possibly close the courts.

Yep, that ought to endear you to thousands of pickleball players (of which I am NOT one). If you're not playing either, what is your problem?

[coffeebean]

Yep, that ought to endear you to thousands of pickleball players (of which I am NOT one). If you're not playing either, what is your problem?

i don't play pickle ball either but I do have a problem with having to go grocery shopping with the same people that are playing Pickle Ball. If it is true that Pickle Ball players congregate as they are waiting to go on the court and are not following the guidelines for social distancing, that is the problem. If they are touching the same ball as they play, I just hope they do follow guidelines to wash their hands after they play.

[golfing eagles]

i don't play pickle ball either but I do have a problem with having to go grocery shopping with the same people that are playing Pickle Ball. If it is true that Pickle Ball players congregate as they are waiting to go on the court and are not following the guidelines for social distancing, that is the problem. If they are touching the same ball as they play, I just hope they do follow guidelines to wash their hands after they play.

That's fair. But in that case they should revoke the playing privileges of the offenders, not everybody

[charmed59]

I play tennis on courts near the pickle ball folks, and I must say, I’m pretty impressed with how safe they are. No mingling, no lines, they bring their own balls, often in what looks like a vat of disinfectant. Obviously they are six feet apart or they would hit each other when they swing. I’m not sure what it would look like playing pickle ball as a contact sport, but that is definitely not what I’m seeing out there.

[rz5drf]

We don’t have chlorinated pools.

[golfing eagles]

We don’t have chlorinated pools.

Really?? Why aren't they green? I haven't seen anyone dumping Bacquacil in them.

What do they use???

[Deebee007]

Please report to on FB to covid 19 police/TV

[Oneiric]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.

[Thirr]

Bromine. Here is a quick definition of the difference. The chemical “Bromine” is very similar to chlorine in the way that it kills bacteria and harmful contaminants, but the two chemicals react in different ways in the swimming pool water. Bromine is most commonly used to sanitize spas/hot tubs because it is more stable than chlorine in the warmer temperatures.

[Shadia328]

I am wearing a golf glove on my left hand. My right hand holds paddle. Therefore, I am not touching ball or latch on gate. We keep 6 feet apart, and do not touch each other.

[action jackson]

salt

[jeffy]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.
Quote........The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne. End quote.........What??? That is one of the easiest way for this virus to spread.

[Mikee1]

We don’t have chlorinated pools.

They offer a number of benefits over a regular chlorine pool. Saltwater swimming pools draw on dissolved salt in the water to generate chlorine. The salt cell or generator utilizes a process called electrolysis to break down or separate the salt also known as sodium chloride or NaCl in the water.

So yes they are chlorine pools.

[Carhar]

Pools closed indefinitely? The sign on the pool that I read said till March 31st.

Pools were closed (according to the newspaper) because people were breaking the 10 person gathering rule. The picture in the paper looked like it had at least 7 small children in the family pool. I’m sure we all agree that grandchildren are wonderful, but inviting them to a senior neighborhood when we are dealing with a pandemic is a little scary.

I think that should concern you more than the Pickleball players

[woderfulwendy1]

Pool requires toilets, PB and Tennis doesn't.

[DebRags]

It is my understanding that they are using their own equipment. I, personally have not seen “lines” of folks for the courts. In fact, I have seen more close contact in the grocery stores than on the courts.

[Singerlady]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.
Confused...then why must we stay 6 feet away from everyone? Are you a doctor?

[Mommabear]

I definitely agree!!

[hollywoodz]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?

I contacted Richard Baier and John Rohan over a week ago about this precise observation; they never responded. Yesterday (March 27) I casually went be two centers' pickleball courts and saw way more than 10 congregate, a clear violation of CDC rules. And as if to add salt to the wound, PoliticoFlorida reported as of last night at 6:30pm by writer Arek Sarkissian that coronavirus is now spreading in The Villages by community spread or close contact with others (according to the Florida Dept. of Health in Sumter County) with at least five residents having contracted the virus! 29 county residents have also contracted the virus; 24 tested positive in Lake County; 8 in Marion County. The reporter also wrote that TV is also receiving a 250-bed mobile hospital from the Fla. Div. of Emergency Services. It seems Village officials must be following Trump's lead by being "late to the party", and a deadly one at that. All courts need to be closed down for the health and safety of ALL Villagers, not just those that play the game---and I play it 2-3x/week.

[Oneiric]

Outdoors on pickleball court.

[Rsullbishop]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?

It's not the pool, chlorine kiils micro,s it's the closeness of people chatting. If one person does there laps or exercises that is great,but alas congradation in a no no

[arbajeda]

Really?? Why aren't they green? I haven't seen anyone dumping Bacquacil in them.

What do they use???

Watch/read this:

What is a Saltwater Pool? Chemistry, Lifespan, Cost, & More (https://www.riverpoolsandspas.com/blog/saltwater-pools)

[Domenick]

For those that are still not following the CDC’s recommendations for social distancing. You should have a tattoo put on the bottom of you foot. “ I AM AN _______ DON’T WASTE A VENTILATOR ON ME”

[arbajeda]

Quote........The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne. End quote.........What??? That is one of the easiest way for this virus to spread.

This is not an aerosol virus; that is, one that travels through the air by itself. It is contained in droplets of saliva and possibly other bodily fluids. Read this for more info:

How Coronavirus Spreads | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html)

[mjkspear]

People were not following the 6' rule at the pools, there were crowds.

[Florida17]

I would love to swim in this heat. To bad a few had to ruin for the many. (:

[rlcooper70]

Adults Pools were overcrowded and the people going to the pools were congregating in groups.
Pickle ball courts = four people far apart from each other. What's the mystery?

If the people at the pool self limited to ten or so the pools would be open - of course choline is good for killing the virus.

[maryl]

I agree also your safer in pool then playing contact sports

[Aloha1]

I contacted Richard Baier and John Rohan over a week ago about this precise observation; they never responded. Yesterday (March 27) I casually went be two centers' pickleball courts and saw way more than 10 congregate, a clear violation of CDC rules. And as if to add salt to the wound, PoliticoFlorida reported as of last night at 6:30pm by writer Arek Sarkissian that coronavirus is now spreading in The Villages by community spread or close contact with others (according to the Florida Dept. of Health in Sumter County) with at least five residents having contracted the virus! 29 county residents have also contracted the virus; 24 tested positive in Lake County; 8 in Marion County. The reporter also wrote that TV is also receiving a 250-bed mobile hospital from the Fla. Div. of Emergency Services. It seems Village officials must be following Trump's lead by being "late to the party", and a deadly one at that. All courts need to be closed down for the health and safety of ALL Villagers, not just those that play the game---and I play it 2-3x/week.
Perhaps you should self quarantine yourself if you are that concerned about what other people do.

[Syd2008]

I still play pickleball a couple of times a week. Only with the same group of 4. Always with our own equipment. If others ask to play when courts are available the answer is no!!
If courts get full which I have not seen in my area I would leave.

[Sharon Dent]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.
In fact, it ABSOLUTELY is transmitted airborne. That is THE most common way it’s getting transmitted. Hence the masks. Just be careful, everyone!

[LadyPenO]

We use salt in our pool. We were told by T & D, a long time pool contractor at The Villages, that ALL pools in the Villages were salt water pools. However, while witnessing a pool tender at Sunset Point adult pool when asked if that was salt he was hauling in, he stated, "No, none of the pools in The Villages are saltwater pools." Is he just uninformed or misinformed?

[robinsdw2]

I tried to get a response about this very topic from John Rohan but he won’t answer. These Pickleball players could be infected and not know it and carrying it into grocery stores where the rest of us have to go to buy food.

[jonathanb]

My wife and I are avid Pickleball players. For 2 weeks now we ONLY play against each other. When we go to a pod and see 3 courts in use we go to another pod. Use our own balls. Use our own chairs. Don’t touch anyone else’s Pickleballs and tell others not to touch ours. More need to do this.

[Max0431Zoe]

Of course they are chlorinated. Good grief !!! If not regular chlorine then by a salt water system which works by
“ a salt water sanitation system (also called a chlorine generator) produces chlorine through an electrolysis process. This process occurs when the salt, or sodium chloride (NaCl), dissolves in the water and separates into sodium ions and chloride ions”.
Health regulations would not allow pools without a sanitized system to be permitted.

[rrlavigne]

It's about infecting each other. IMO, as much as I love the pools, TV did the right thing. The pools were crowded and people outright REFUSED to keep to the 10 people max, 6 FT apart rule. (I paid my fees and I'm going swimming!!) And TV should consider stopping PB AND golf too, due to crowds all day long at the starter shacks. If we're SMART and just stay in our homes for a few weeks or at least stay away from each other, and not touch things others can touch, then in a matter of weeks the virus will be GONE. The more we act like "children" and break the rules "because we want to go out and play" the longer it'll take for the virus to go away. People are literally dying, let that sink in, ... it's not a HOAX or something happening someplace else, ... and the economy is tanking ... and we're ****ed because we can't "go out and play?" If people stay home this will go away quickly, then we can SAFELY get back to our lives of privilege and the rest of the world can get back to work.

[Bill1701]

The pools were closed because they were still crowded with people and many of the people were standing close together. Chairs and tables were being shared by many people. People on the PB courts are using the corner courts, not the middle ones, and are not standing in groups while waiting.

[Mustang428j]

If you go shopping for grocery's locally you are now around people of which you do not know where they have been and they may not be from the area "The Villages". If your so worried about yourself, stay home, watch CNN. You may get the Virus just watching the New's.

[NotGolfer]

SO....with all this "but, but, but.." type of conversation on discussing what they're doing is safe or not...what if the whole state declares a quaranteen? Where everyone is mandated to remain inside---except maybe to go to the store or to seek medical help? The few (or many) people who continue to do what they do because they have a need to get out---it will affect the rest. Look at NYC, look at other areas of the country as well. The folks from NY that are leaving and coming here as well...people still milling around as if there isn't a world-wide epidemic as we've never seen before. People are worrying about swimming pools, pickleball courts and the list can go on. I'm a little perturbed because I AM immuno-compromised and in the rare times I've left my house I always have to wonder "will this be it, when I catch the virus?" If you can think of your extended family---maybe your kids if you have them and your grandkids, if you can't think of your friends and neighbors and those around you that you don't know.

[TexaninVA]

If you go shopping for grocery's locally you are now around people of which you do not know where they have been and they may not be from the area "The Villages". If your so worried about yourself, stay home, watch CNN. You may get the Virus just watching the New's.

Watching CNN has been medically proven to be hazardous to normal people's mental health ... be careful..:MOJE_whot:

[Westie Man]

In fact, it ABSOLUTELY is transmitted airborne. That is THE most common way it’s getting transmitted. Hence the masks. Just be careful, everyone!

Everyone should stay home

[Jannygirl]

Instead of laying off the rec employees, why don’t they have them monitoring the pools. Most people who use the adult pools would abide by the 10 person rule and take turns 1 in—1out

[Nucky]

The Villages absolutely did the correct thing when they closed down the Pools. This isn't about Personal Integrity it is about Living/Dying and affecting others.

During this time of the year we are normally at a pool at least twice a day. We miss the exercise and our friend. I'll see them again when this is over. It will be

over one day if we do there things that are suggested with a favorable outcome.

[davem4616]

Really?? Why aren't they green? I haven't seen anyone dumping Bacquacil in them.

What do they use???


these are salt water pools, not fresh water pools...the treatment is different

why haven't you seen anyone treating the pools?...maybe it's because the expensive professional grade equipment designed into the system is constantly maintaining the water quality and the folks that check it haven't been told that they needed to call you every time before they stopped over....their bad....hopefully the Morse family will dock their pay for not letting you know, so that you can make sure they do their job

[Rodneysblue]

Reminds me of the skit on Saturday Night Live. "Schweddy Balls" with Alec Baldwin. NPR's Delicious Dish: Schweddy Balls - SNL - YouTube

[mastergolfer]

Salt water pools

[Guy&Connie1103]

They should be consistent. There is also more than 10 and in fact there are than 10 standing and sitting on the bench. I took a picture at Bradenton

[Fuzz323]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.

"The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne" That is not what I have been hearing since this miserable thing started. If that is the case why are medical folks in the trenches wearing these full face masks and in some cases fully enclosed air systems. I doubt because they are comfortable. I don't think this is something you want to be telling folks. :ohdear: The six foot "social distance" is the reason for the season!

[Debbraham]

Yes...we bring our own chairs and sit 6’ apart...only about 8 max people in our group so we are generally playing on courts in different sections...also we bring wipes and hand sanitizers to use between play and to clean the ball. Safer than going to the grocery store! Don’t put all pickleball in your complaint...I saw 8 people gathered in chairs last night in someone’s driveway and they were sitting all right next to each other...no distancing! Be more afraid of their behavior than pickleball players!

[StevieB]

The pools were closed because Villagers could not follow the rules. It was posted only 10 people in the pool. The Villages did a check and there were several pools with 20 plus people in them. You go to the squares and people and sitting in groups (not 6 feet apart). If people would follow the rules we would have more privileges. As always, a few people who don’t think the rules apply to them spoil for everyone. Social distancing is critical. People are dying from this disease. Let’s take it seriously.

[McGyver9]

I find it laughable that supposedly GROWN adults require a "monitor" to count to 10, or know what 6 foot distance is...
And any of them that CAN'T, are going to tell that "monitor" where to shove it anyway.
If you are there with the people that you LIVE with, golfing/playing PB/in the pool, 6' spacing doesn't apply..and how does ANYONE who doesn't know them know the difference?

This whole thread, as well as MOST posts I read on this forum, are just "sour grapes", if you ask ME.

As previously stated, pools are NOT conducive to cleanliness in several ways.

PB , you have ONE hand touching the ball/gate. (Or just leave the damn gate OPEN)
Keep your hand out of your mouth/off your face, till you wash your hand...before you get in your car/cart and touch the steering wheel/door handle.

Wearing a porous golf glove is not helping/blocking anything from you...
You'll ruin it soaking it in bleach water every day.
A virus can't get through your unbroken skin...just wash your hands when you're done.
Have a bottle of sanitizer with you...

If you want to get TOTALLY freaked out about something, think about how the store shelves are stocked....
Aldi, who just cuts the boxes open, looks a LOT more attractive/clean NOW...

[Cpelli10]

Let me just say this for what it’s worth..I’m in NJ and we wish all of the pickleball and basketball courts as well as all outside activities would have been shut down sooner. Hindsight is 20/20 and we are now fighting a huge crisis here. You are risking infecting others by being selfish. It’s a small sacrifice for something so monumental that you will regret. Please think about the very near future.

[TooColdNJ]

Last thing I heard was that it IS airborne as well, so is this new information?😷 a cough or a sneeze sends droplets into the air.

[newgirl]

I see more golfers standing in groups then issues on the courts . Golf is big $$$$ , they won’t close so why hurt pickleball players who are playing safe?

[davem4616]

he was totally uninformed, and most likely he doesn't fully understand the theory behind what he's doing....but that's why he does what he does for a living

[davem4616]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.


what???

wow, wake up

[graciegirl]

Instead of laying off the rec employees, why don’t they have them monitoring the pools. Most people who use the adult pools would abide by the 10 person rule and take turns 1 in—1out

It is my opinion that The Villages try in any way, shape or form, to NOT direct people in the form of telling them they cannot do things. I think they try very hard to treat us all as adults. And if they were to have rec employees at the pools and they would ask/tell someone not to do this or that and that someone wouldn't...………..then what??? Call the Village Watch who would call Law Enforcement? I don't think that there are laws governing that. And if we had the laws and our own law enforcement? Than someone has to pay for that and that someone would be us. I think closing the pools is a good idea. It won't be forever.

[dcorts]

I suppose if they close the pickle ball courts they should also close the sidewalks as people passing one another are not 6 feet apart

[soniak4@gmail.com]

Originally, the adult and sports pools were going to be left open. They wanted residents to self monitor and keep it to a group of 10 or less at a time. Apparently, residents were not adult enough to self monitor and people were gathering in much larger numbers. Therefore, the locked the pools. I would think adults in The Villages would be smart enough to NOT gather in large groups, waiting for a pickle ball court but apparently not. I don’t think there are locks on the pickle ball courts but who knows. I know I am staying away from large groups and so should you without being locked out of anything.

[gail swanson]

TE=coffeebean;1734727]i don't play pickle ball either but I do have a problem with having to go grocery shopping with the same people that are playing Pickle Ball. If it is true that Pickle Ball players congregate as they are waiting to go on the court and are not following the guidelines for social distancing, that is the problem. If they are touching the same ball as they play, I just hope they do follow guidelines to wash their hands after they play.[/QUOTE]

There are few people playing that I have observed. We spray the ball with a diluted Clorox spray after each game. I really doubt Pickleball players go to the grocery store before showering and washing their hands,

[Fred2016]

I have been told” oh they wear gloves playing PB”
Does not help.

[RDinelle]

Yep, that ought to endear you to thousands of pickleball players (of which I am NOT one). If you're not playing either, what is your problem?
The problem is, that if 1 person has or gets the virus, doesn’t know it yet, then goes to your store, and infects other people, then it is EVERYONES problem!

[cj740@comcast.net]

Adults Pools were overcrowded and the people going to the pools were congregating in groups.
Pickle ball courts = four people far apart from each other. What's the mystery?

If the people at the pool self limited to ten or so the pools would be open - of course choline is good for killing the virus.


THis confusing to me If ten people are in the pool.....is there a time limit to stay in the water so that the next 10 people can enjoy it too? And, while not in the pool, how many people are allowed in the surrounding areas assuming they will keep the proper distance?

[chuckster]

village pools chlorinated via a liquid chlorine system. They are not salt pools. Call pool control they maintain all sports pools, country club pools and neighborhood pools.

[golfing eagles]

The problem is, that if 1 person has or gets the virus, doesn’t know it yet, then goes to your store, and infects other people, then it is EVERYONES problem!

And the odds of that are very small. You're looking for a risk free world, but that doesn't exist. The universe is a dangerous place. Your odds of dying in an auto accident are greater than dying of CV19 that you picked up at a grocery store from someone who had played pickle ball.

[hviergever]

Really?? Why aren't they green? I haven't seen anyone dumping Bacquacil in them.

What do they use???
Salt water.... Salt (NaCl) has been thrown in the pool and the salted water flows through a cell which when needed, electronically splits the NaCl into Na+ and Cl- ions. The Cl- Chlorine ions join together to form chlorine molecules which destroy bad stuff in the pool... Then the Na+ (Sodium) finds the chlorine and splits it up and reconstitutes it to back to a NaCl molecule..
So yes, there is chlorine in the pool.
Hope this helps.

[wamley]

Other then the water

[wamley]

I find it interesting that there are always some people that, after having lost something they enjoy, they seek out something else that should be taken away from others. I guess it makes them feel better.

[Chksngr]

I agree about the pickle ball courts and any contact sports.... but, the pools are not chlorinated... they use saline here and aside from that... if everyone decides to go to the pool it would be impossible to control social distancing in and out of the pool area...even more worriesome is the fact that everyone that goes thru the gate to get in has to touch and hold the lock down and to get out and I’m positive that even if some people don’t use their hands without gloves...it only takes one person to infect everyone there. The risk is extremely high.

[Marathon Man]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?

Have you contacted the Rec Dept and given your opinion?

[Ramone]

The adult pools are closed indefinitely. I suppose chlorinated water and sunshine are bad for you.

Please explain why Pickle Ball courts are still open. Large groups of people gathered around talking waiting for a court. Not to mention the players handling a sweating ball being handled by multiple players.

The Villages should be consistent and close CONTACT SPORTS. There is no contact in the adult pools.
Who makes up these rules?
RJV Rule for Pools- Open at 50% capacity. 2 hour shifts of people. Chlorine/water bottle spray scattered around all tables and chairs. No one within 6 ft of another or asked to leave by attendants. Chlorine water and sun kills the virus. Let's go Villages Pools. Open so we can exercise and get some sun.

[JSR22]

I have not read anywhere chlorine and the sun kills the virus.

[dewilson58]

I find it interesting that there are always some people that, after having lost something they enjoy, they seek out something else that should be taken away from others. I guess it makes them feel better.




:bigbow:

[Veiragirl]

because they are salt water pools

[mjpuleo]

not for nothing folks, but living in a senior community what are the chances that no "senior" p**s in any of the pools (I don't because I don't go in the pools but one day/one hour out of the year when I have company). can totally understand the closures of the pool.

[EdFNJ]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.
WOW, JUST WOW! So much false information.

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.


Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.



How else would it get there? By telepathy?

[golfing eagles]

WOW, JUST WOW! So much false information.




How else would it get there? By telepathy?

telekinesis:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Skunky1]

They all met at the Square by the ice cream store at Sumter Landing. Forget it people with people acting like that we’re going to be in this for a long time

[xcaligirl]

You see this at ALL of the pickle ball courts in the Villages??? I know PB players and there is no way they do this...not ANY of it!

[coffeebean]

It's not the pool, chlorine kiils micro,s it's the closeness of people chatting. If one person does there laps or exercises that is great,but alas congradation in a no no

Lap swimmers do not congregate. They stay in their lane and do not "chat" with anyone. I would like to see the sports pools open to lap swimmers only.

[DARFAP]

Are they salt water? I don't think so.

[Marathon Man]

The virus is killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet light. Players use wipes on their hands, paddles, and ball after every game. They do not touch other players or their faces with their hands. The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne.

This is a perfect example of why the virus spreads. People believe what they want to believe rather than get the facts. They continue doing what they want to do, and justify it by citing the false information that they cling to.

[Knighterrant]

My fear is going to the grocery store with stupid and/or ignorant people who insist on sharing ill-informed opinions regarding topics they do not understand - like how the COVID-19 virus is spread, how the COVID-19 virus reacts in different environments, what a contact sport is, the difference between a rule and a recommendation, or how a salt water pool works. I fear such people are ill-informed regarding personal hygiene; thereby, putting everyone at risk. However, such people have likely mastered the art of social distancing, albeit via default, due to others not wanting to be around them.

With that stated, I would wager whatever logic The Villages utilized to justify closing the pools, recreation centers and dog parks could be applied to close every activity in The Villages including golf, pickle ball, tennis, archery, etc.

FYI - "Saltwater swimming pools draw on dissolved salt in the water to generate chlorine. The salt cell or generator utilizes a process called electrolysis to break down or separate the salt also known as sodium chloride or NaCl in the water. The chemical reaction created by electrolysis produces chlorine in the form of sodium hypochlorite and hypochlorous acid. These sanitizing / disinfecting / oxidizing agents are the same as chlorine commonly used in swimming pools in solid and powdered form. This means a saltwater pool is not actually chlorine free. It simply utilizes a chlorine generator instead of being dependent on chlorine added in other forms."

GOOGLE!

[wisbad1]

Wrong, it can spread 3-4 ft away, that’s why 6 ft distance

[coffeebean]

THis confusing to me If ten people are in the pool.....is there a time limit to stay in the water so that the next 10 people can enjoy it too? And, while not in the pool, how many people are allowed in the surrounding areas assuming they will keep the proper distance?

You pose some very good concerns. I guess it was best just to close the pools rather than having to deal with the issues you mentioned.

[pcacace]

[play w spouse as partner; wear a rubber glove in non-paddle hand; wipe off ball w Clorox wipe after each game. Wave paddles to thank others at end of game. Wipe hands w Purcell after and paddle. It will lower your stress of having to stay indoors.

[bpascani]

My understanding is, that all Villages equipment has been removed from pickleball courts.. i.e. balls, water containers, paddles, etc. If anyone wants to go play, they need to bring their own balls, water, paddles, etc. It is suggested that they only play with the people they come with. I no longer am playing, so I don't know how they are requiring maintaining social distance, on the court or in line. I'm also not sure how the "ball" thing works (i.e. does each person bring their own ball, and no one touches it, and, does everyone sanitize their paddle before and/or after each match? I think it's great that outdoor activities are still being made available. I don't get the pool bit...only one of the 3 type pools have been closed???

[kolesnikov10]

That’s awesome that the pickleball players are baking safe washing the balls 😳 take one hit to the face or sweat coming off that ball falls on you. Bam you got it! Enjoy!

[Topspinmo]

We don’t have chlorinated pools.

I don’t know what pool you get in ( retention Pond?) but ALL the ones I get in are heavy with chemicals. Could you imagine will all the people in pools and not have chlorine? What cesspool.

[Topspinmo]

My understanding is, that all Villages equipment has been removed from pickleball courts.. i.e. balls, water containers, paddles, etc. If anyone wants to go play, they need to bring their own balls, water, paddles, etc. It is suggested that they only play with the people they come with. I no longer am playing, so I don't know how they are requiring maintaining social distance, on the court or in line. I'm also not sure how the "ball" thing works (i.e. does each person bring their own ball, and no one touches it, and, does everyone sanitize their paddle before and/or after each match? I think it's great that outdoor activities are still being made available. I don't get the pool bit...only one of the 3 type pools have been closed???

Easy, bring cloth soaked in alcohol wipe down after. I agree when bunch show up that I don’t know I leave.

[Topspinmo]

You pose some very good concerns. I guess it was best just to close the pools rather than having to deal with the issues you mentioned.

And who going to monitor that? It’s not who’s in the pool it who standing in water foot apart or outside on the patios.

[Topspinmo]

i don't play pickle ball either but I do have a problem with having to go grocery shopping with the same people that are playing Pickle Ball. If it is true that Pickle Ball players congregate as they are waiting to go on the court and are not following the guidelines for social distancing, that is the problem. If they are touching the same ball as they play, I just hope they do follow guidelines to wash their hands after they play.

Wear gloves, I would be worried more about who sick or effected going to stores.

[PoolBrews]

We don’t have chlorinated pools.

Yes, we do. Every pool has chlorine (unless it is a UV pool... but that is a BAD idea).

It's a common misconception that a "salt water" pool does not have chlorine. It does. A salt water pool has a salt water chlorine generator (SWCG). Salt is added to the water at a fraction of the salinity of ocean water. The SWCG converts the salt to chlorine.

As the chlorine kills off algae, bacteria, etc, it converts back to salt. It's a self replenishing process.

The only difference is that with an SWCG you get constant chlorine addition as opposed to chlorine adds once a day or every several days, keeping the pool at a safer level of chlorine - it also allows you to keep chlorine at a lower ppm.

[Topspinmo]

these are salt water pools, not fresh water pools...the treatment is different

why haven't you seen anyone treating the pools?...maybe it's because the expensive professional grade equipment designed into the system is constantly maintaining the water quality and the folks that check it haven't been told that they needed to call you every time before they stopped over....their bad....hopefully the Morse family will dock their pay for not letting you know, so that you can make sure they do their job


They do it at night, stay up pass 9PM and you might see them.

[PoolBrews]

I have not read anywhere chlorine and the sun kills the virus.

Chlorine does kill the virus. It's on the CDC site. Go to their site and do a search on swimming pools.

Pools are one of the safest places to be (as long as you are IN the water) :)

[Topspinmo]

In fact, it ABSOLUTELY is transmitted airborne. That is THE most common way it’s getting transmitted. Hence the masks. Just be careful, everyone!

Somebody has to cough, you’re In they’re wind stream really close, spit, wipe they’re mouth, touch something you touch, or in closed in area like airplane where air recycled. IMO the big problem people traveled and NOT staying home long enough. Every time airplane lands the cycle starts over where they go if they are carrying the virus.

[CFrance]

Yep, that ought to endear you to thousands of pickleball players (of which I am NOT one). If you're not playing either, what is your problem?
Snarky comments are not needed right now.



I am playing once a week, only four of us, maintaining distance, using gloves and keeping to 10 people to a court. That's two courts of four and one court of two. If an 11th person shows up, that person is shown the sign on the court door. If we go to a court that already has ten people on it, we don't go in.


I want the courts to stay open unless everyone starts abusing the rules like they did at the pools.


I wish you could find a nicer way to state your opinions.

[Mendy]

"The virus is not able to be transmitted airborne" That is not what I have been hearing since this miserable thing started. If that is the case why are medical folks in the trenches wearing these full face masks and in some cases fully enclosed air systems. I doubt because they are comfortable. I don't think this is something you want to be telling folks. :ohdear: The six foot "social distance" is the reason for the season!

The virus is ABSOLUTELY transmitted via air. Read any publication or listen to any medical expert. This is about the only thing every expert agrees on.

[golfing eagles]

Snarky comments are not needed right now.



I am playing once a week, only four of us, maintaining distance, using gloves and keeping to 10 people to a court. That's two courts of four and one court of two. If an 11th person shows up, that person is shown the sign on the court door. If we go to a court that already has ten people on it, we don't go in.


I want the courts to stay open unless everyone starts abusing the rules like they did at the pools.


I wish you could find a nicer way to state your opinions.

I think you completely missed the sarcasm of my post. Go back and read the post I was responding to, IMHO my response was not "snarky" enough.
I'm glad you are still playing pickleball while taking the precautions of social distancing, just as I , along with thousands of others, continue to play golf. Our risk from both of these activities is extremely low to zero.
In fact, I am getting sick of the holier-than-thou chicken littles of TOTV who stay at home of THEIR OWN CHOICE, then accuse everyone else of being an "idiot", a "spreader", and "unpatriotic". I wish they would be afraid of contracting CV-19 from their own keyboards.
Duck, incoming---but I don't care because I won't be home

[roob1]

We are being told to stay at home by Feds and Locals...not so much by "their own choice".

But it is also your choice to continue ignoring the "experts" and to play golf.


In fact, I am getting sick of the holier-than-thou chicken littles of TOTV who stay at home of THEIR OWN CHOICE, then accuse everyone else of being an "idiot", a "spreader", and "unpatriotic". I wish they would be afraid of contracting CV-19 from their own keyboards.
Duck, incoming---but I don't care because I won't be home

[golfing eagles]

We are being told to stay at home by Feds and Locals...not so much by "their own choice".

But it is also your choice to continue ignoring the "experts" and to play golf.

There is an ADVISORY for those over 65 to stay at home, NOT A MANDATE. I'm under 65. And show me an "expert" who said golf with social distancing is high risk.

If you're over 65, stay at home. If you're paranoid, stay at home except to hoard toilet paper. But do not criticize others who are following the current recommendations and call them names or question their patriotism.

[coffeebean]

Yes, we do. Every pool has chlorine (unless it is a UV pool... but that is a BAD idea).

It's a common misconception that a "salt water" pool does not have chlorine. It does. A salt water pool has a salt water chlorine generator (SWCG). Salt is added to the water at a fraction of the salinity of ocean water. The SWCG converts the salt to chlorine.

As the chlorine kills off algae, bacteria, etc, it converts back to salt. It's a self replenishing process.

The only difference is that with an SWCG you get constant chlorine addition as opposed to chlorine adds once a day or every several days, keeping the pool at a safer level of chlorine - it also allows you to keep chlorine at a lower ppm.

I know I have posted this in another thread but I'll post it again here.

The concentration of chlorine is no where near what it is in pools that are treated only with chlorine. Chlorinated pools ruin my bathing suits and bleach them out. That is the problem I always have when I wear my suits in the hot tubs on cruise ships. I can be guaranteed my suit will look bleached out within a few wearings in a chlorinated pool.

The sports pools in The Villages have never ruined a bathing suit and I swim all the time and have worn the same bathing suits for years. (lucky I can still fit in them. LOL) My suits look brand new when I swim in the pools here in The Villages. What ever filtration system is used in these pools, it is great for not ruining bathing suits.

[fastbasser]

Pools are closed because people are selfish..

[Foxtrot]

Pools are closed because people are selfish..

Pools are closed because it is dangerous to be in them.

[billethkid]

The pools are closed due to folks simply not keeping social distances. The pool decks just had too many people conducting themselves business as usual.

[Nucky]

It's for the best. I'm a Poolaholic so it hurt me a whole lot. There were well over a hundred people at our pool the last time we went before they were closed. Everybody can cipher it out but the minute someone of authority isn't looking the rules will be shattered. How are they gonna check your I.D. ??