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JimJohnson
03-31-2020, 12:42 PM
I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:
bumpygreens
03-31-2020, 01:00 PM
The best advice from the federal level seems to be coming at the briefings from Drs. Fauci and Birx. Much of the media still seems to interject political opinions into a medical issue, so I have chosen not to put much faith in them. It is, after all, a medical issue. Get your advice from those in the medical profession. If you want to learn more about what we are up against, search "Ninja Nerd Medicine" on YouTube. They have two videos that cover what is know about the virus in detail. You may not understand the medical and scientific terminology, but if you pay close attention, you will also hear it in a way a layman can understand. The man is an excellent presenter.
dewilson58
03-31-2020, 01:02 PM
Wow, changing this late in the game.
Well I guess, better late than never.......not much better, but some.
There are plenty of online interview by Fauci & Brix.
JimJohnson
03-31-2020, 01:10 PM
Wow, changing this late in the game.
Well I guess, better late than never.......not much better, but some.
There are plenty of online interview by Fauci & Brix.
Your 100% correct, I was hearing what I wanted to hear from the top, but when FOX started sounding alarmed, I had to start listening to the media take on seriousness of this virus. :shocked:
Villageswimmer
03-31-2020, 05:59 PM
We are all blessed to have Drs. Fauci and Birx. Please listen to them—not to the arrogant self-appointed experts on this board.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-31-2020, 07:41 PM
I use the media as a source for videos and live reports from the actual people who know what they're talking about. I ignore the commentary. I don't care what Judge Janine thinks about COVID-19, and I don't care if Jim Acosta thinks trump is a blithering idiot. What I care about is that the actual medical doctors and scientists who do the actual medicine and science regarding the COVID-19 having something to say about it.
So when the media presents a live announcement by these people who actually know what they're talking about, I listen/watch. And then I change the channel back to American Picker reruns once the people who know what they're talking about, are done talking about it.
TexaninVA
03-31-2020, 08:02 PM
I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:
The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..
1. wash your hands frequently
2. do NOT touch your face
If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.
billethkid
03-31-2020, 10:02 PM
The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..
1. wash your hands frequently
2. do NOT touch your face
If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.
And stay home as much as possible.
Assume everything that comes to your home has the virus on it and treat/sanitize accordingly.
Topspinmo
03-31-2020, 10:16 PM
Your 100% correct, I was hearing what I wanted to hear from the top, but when FOX started sounding alarmed, I had to start listening to the media take on seriousness of this virus. :shocked:
I knew this had political overtone.
Jack58033
03-31-2020, 10:26 PM
Should we be listening to the science on a few more issues?
JimJohnson
04-01-2020, 02:40 AM
After my best attempt at research, it appears to me, that for accurate information I should stay clear of media outlets like MSNBC, FOX NEWS, Etc.. Best options available for honest, non biased reporting are the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal. Stay safe everyone.
VApeople
04-01-2020, 02:57 AM
the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership
I watch all three cable networks (FOX, MSNBC, CNN) and the medical advice I get from them agrees with the federal leadership, in my opinion.
With their advice and our own common sense, we think we know exactly what to do to avoid getting the virus.
graciegirl
04-01-2020, 04:23 AM
The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..
1. wash your hands frequently
2. do NOT touch your face
If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.
And stay at least six feet away from anyone who does not live in your house.
maggie1
04-01-2020, 05:20 AM
I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:
For a thorough and layman term explanation of how this virus kills, you should watch this YouTube presentation. It's about 34 minutes long, but being homebound with not a lot to do, it's 34 minutes that could be the difference between life and death. This is the link: HOW COVID-19 KILLS--I'm a Surgeon--And Why We Can't Save You - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM) The presenter is Duc Vuong, MD.
richs631
04-01-2020, 05:28 AM
You would be crazy to listen to anyone in the news. Follow advice from federal and state leaders
ladyarwen3
04-01-2020, 05:50 AM
If you weren't listening to the medical community before, who were you listening to??
Dr Fauci, the CDC, the WHO, the NIH are all reliable sources. I have been following them daily.
Heyitsrick
04-01-2020, 06:19 AM
Your 100% correct, I was hearing what I wanted to hear from the top, but when FOX started sounding alarmed, I had to start listening to the media take on seriousness of this virus. :shocked:
Tucker Carlson of FOX News was talking about the coronavirus on FNC starting on February 3 - while the rest of the media were talking about impeachment.
Carlson:
Anybody who imagined that this was just media hype turned out to be wrong. … Feb. 3 is the day that it was confirmed to me by a U.S. government official that this was a huge problem and that a lot of people could die. That’s when I learned it. And that’s the night we went on the air and said, “Wow this is something you really need to worry about.” Was there anybody else in politics on either side who was standing up in public and saying, “Drop what you’re doing and worry about this? I just don’t remember that there was.”
FNC employees have largely been working from home since the weekend of March 14-15. I'm not clear on this "when FOX started sounding alarmed" comment, unless you've been in a bubble.
Fox News To Implement Telecommuting, Other Measures For Employees – Deadline (https://deadline.com/2020/03/coronavirus-fox-news-1202881470/)
davem4616
04-01-2020, 06:49 AM
We are all blessed to have Drs. Fauci and Birx. Please listen to them—not to the arrogant self-appointed experts on this board.
Totally agree with this response to the OP...it totally blows my mind why people use this board to inquire about things that are critical enough that they should be directed to a subject matter expert/professional
Now, that's not to say that there aren't some very thoughtful comments offered by folks on this board, or that this board should be shut down
it serves a purpose, just don't use it as a crutch
rbrooks817
04-01-2020, 06:50 AM
You and many others should have been doing that a month ago. The federal government knew the science but it was not delivered to the public. Very unfortunate for state.
rbrooks817
04-01-2020, 06:56 AM
Perhaps you should have been getting your news from more than 1 source. There are many other media outlets than FOX News.
kenoc7
04-01-2020, 06:58 AM
Your 100% correct, I was hearing what I wanted to hear from the top, but when FOX started sounding alarmed, I had to start listening to the media take on seriousness of this virus. :shocked:
A good reason to never watch Fox - it has been proven to be more inaccurate than the other cable news networks,
cheweycat
04-01-2020, 07:33 AM
Are u saying that because Fox news is getting serious, you finally believe the facts?
Rosie1950
04-01-2020, 07:33 AM
The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..
1. wash your hands frequently
2. do NOT touch your face
If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.
I also think we should get dressed, the stores are now insisting on clothing. I originally thought it was just wash ur hands and face.
P.S. anyone know what time u should change from daytime pj’s to nighttime pj’s.
cemtennis
04-01-2020, 07:34 AM
I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:
Hold the Line.
‘This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices’ Jonathan Smith
As an infectious disease epidemiologist (albeit a junior one), I feel morally obligated to provide information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how it applies to the social distancing measures. Like any good scientist, I have noticed two things that are either not well articulated or not present in the “literature” of online media. I have also relied on other infectious disease epidemiologists for peer review of this piece.
Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these distancing measures very clear and unambiguous.
First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means that even with these measures in place, we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities. This may lead some to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. This is the normal epidemic trajectory. Stay calm.
The enemy we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not an opinion. This is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. Stay strong and in solidarity knowing that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people continue getting sick and dying. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.
You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit: if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk.
Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. households) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases contact within a group (i.e. family). This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. The basic mechanics of this mathematical principle dictate that even if there is only a little bit of additional connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates, unnecessary trips to the store, etc.), the epidemic likely won’t be much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit.
You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit: If one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.
In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also require sustained action before results are evident. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how on a population level ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it can. I promise you it can. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a short playdate, a quick haircut, or picking up a needless item from the store. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines much of the good work our communities have done thus far.
This outbreak will not be overcome in one grand, sweeping gesture, but rather by the collection of individual choices we make in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. As this epidemic continues, it will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and we may feel compelled to “cheat” with unnecessary breaches of social distancing measures. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the critical importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit and strategizing to persevere in this time of uncertainty.
theruizs
04-01-2020, 07:39 AM
Also, listen to and follow your counties advisory. Here is Sumter’s: https://www.**************.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Sumter-County-State-of-Emergency-Declaration-Extension.pdf
Info on the virus here in Florida: Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/)
And the **************.com has good info specific to TV.
theruizs
04-01-2020, 07:41 AM
Also, listen to and follow your counties advisory. Here is Sumter’s: https://www.**************.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Sumter-County-State-of-Emergency-Declaration-Extension.pdf
Info on the virus here in Florida: Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/)
And the **************.com has good info specific to TV.
Looks like talkofthevillages does not like the villages news site for some reason. You can google it though if you don’t already know about it.
Lindsyburnsy
04-01-2020, 07:49 AM
It is probably not a bad idea to rotate through other cable news so you can get a more balanced update. When the WH was calling it a hoax, certain cable news echoed that. Finally, everyone is taking this seriously, but look at how much time has been lost.
meridian5850
04-01-2020, 08:11 AM
The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..
1. wash your hands frequently
2. do NOT touch your face
If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.
Pro tip regarding #2.
You can't touch your face if you're holding your preferred beverage in each hand. :)
colortec
04-01-2020, 08:13 AM
Watch the briefings to get info straight from scientists.
Ashley from UK
04-01-2020, 08:19 AM
I listened and planned my companies close down based on the experiences of my clients in China and South Korea and what was happending there from January and February.
Once closed down I now take advise from my friends working on the front line in the A&E wards of the local hospitals and from the report by The Imperial College London. DON'T underestimate this. It's not only the old that are dying its the young as well. My sister in law had it and recovered without medical treatment. She is fit but said near the end it was the most frightening experience in her life as she struggled to breath, and she genuinely thought she would die... but 2 days later she recovered. The big problem with the pandemic is that most people will be OK, and many will question wheter we overkilled the responses killing economies in the process... The reason as the US medical advisor stated DO NOTHING = over 2 million deaths in the USA. Self quarantine then hopefully the number will be under 200,000. Why the discrepancy? Partly more infected people but also because there simply aren't enough beds and ventialators and people that could survive will not have the chance as Doctors are forced to decide who lives and who dies, who gets a ventilator and who doesn't..........Forget politicians and think about that last statement. Chances are most poeple won't suffer, but for those that do many will recover if the beds are available... Currently there aren't enough beds.....
STAY AT HOME AND SAVE LIFES......
dunmyer
04-01-2020, 08:21 AM
Stay away from everyone. Don’t touch anything outside your home or anything that isn’t yours.
If you must wear gloves or put on some protective covering then discard of that covering as safely as you can.
When you bring anything new inside your home, disinfect it.
Wash your hands immediately after you touch something outside of your home and avoid touching your face if you have to touch things that you aren’t 100% sure they have been disinfected by the virus
There are people roaming around the villages who have the virus and they don’t know it. You don’t know who they are and they don’t know it either.
Laurawilcox
04-01-2020, 08:28 AM
This came out yesterday late, Tuesday, and should quickly help you decide how often you want to be grocery shopping. MIT scientists just validated, in case of a sneeze, the virus can travel 27 feet because of the body’s propulsion. Please remember some of the droplets can be airborne for up to 3 hours that has been published by Princeton a week ago. So if you walk in the radius of that 27 foot spread even if you don’t see a sneezing person you can become infected. Regardless of how you clean your hands.
Also additional symptom out, surprisingly different for only 3% with Covid19. Pink eye. No fever no respiratory issues just painful pink eye.
Please be smart and careful
nututv
04-01-2020, 08:59 AM
It's the Flu folks! Granted if you get it, it could be worse but in the big picture... no, not really. Car wrecks and bee/wasp stings are still a far greater killer. Well it was before everyone ran inside scared to death by the media and government.
It's not a disease that hunts you down like some being in a hollywood movie. It's a virus that's spread mostly by being too close to another human. Go into a store if you need to (or if you can find one open lol)
Go for your walks, your bike rides, your cart rides. Find a quiet spot to watch the sunrise or sunset. Bring some food for the wildlife. See someone? Wave and say hi keeping a safe distance.
I've never been afraid of dying, but I get horrified by the thought of not living.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
04-01-2020, 09:14 AM
And stay at least six feet away from anyone who does not live in your house.
How about people that live in your house and are out in public most of the day?
Annie66
04-01-2020, 09:24 AM
I watch all three cable networks (FOX, MSNBC, CNN) and the medical advice I get from them agrees with the federal leadership, in my opinion.
With their advice and our own common sense, we think we know exactly what to do to avoid getting the virus.
I do not want to make this into a political battle, but to me, it's encouraging (as well as important) that people sample the news from various outlets and persuasions. It allows you to be exposed to many differing opinions, and permits you to make more informed judgements, no matter what the topic.
TrishMvhl
04-01-2020, 09:34 AM
Trust the doctors and scientists. This is NOT the flu. Dr. Fauci says so himself. Just go to YouTube and type in the search field: "Fauci this is not the flu". You can see him make it crystal clear. COVID-19 is 10x more lethal. Please do not be casual about this. Have your essentials at home. Wash hands and disinfect frequently touched surfaces. Practice social distancing. It's a short term inconvenience compared to the alternative. Be safe everyone.
nututv
04-01-2020, 09:40 AM
.... COVID-19 is 10x more lethal.
Jury is still out on that one as it's impossible to tell how many have had it and gotten over it.
No one yet has the correct data to figure this out yet.
At current numbers, 10x more lethal is still below 1%.
Number 10 GI
04-01-2020, 09:49 AM
Perhaps you should have been getting your news from more than 1 source. There are many other media outlets than FOX News.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
natjos
04-01-2020, 09:56 AM
Proven by whom.
golfinglady
04-01-2020, 10:26 AM
I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:
the CDC is your best source:
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/)
patsyopnp
04-01-2020, 10:28 AM
Listen to the CDC. Go on CDC.gov. These are the medical experts, no political commentary, just the facts.
Katieburr
04-01-2020, 10:41 AM
By all means listen to the medical professionals, not the government.
LadyPenO
04-01-2020, 10:43 AM
While the networks report their version of the facts, Fox News has the latest medical experts' stats and advice based upon those stats on a daily basis. While the medical experts are "federal" employees, the networks are NOT experts, but think they are. You be the judge!
Richdez20
04-01-2020, 10:52 AM
I will avoid politics. My job for last 26 years as an ER doc in a academic trauma center is to save lives , teach medical students and residents and be honest with patients . I use evidence-based medicine, not “gut”.
Here’s a document that may help.
Velvet
04-01-2020, 11:02 AM
It's the Flu folks! Granted if you get it, it could be worse but in the big picture... no, not really. Car wrecks and bee/wasp stings are still a far greater killer. Well it was before everyone ran inside scared to death by the media and government.
It's not a disease that hunts you down like some being in a hollywood movie. It's a virus that's spread mostly by being too close to another human. Go into a store if you need to (or if you can find one open lol)
Go for your walks, your bike rides, your cart rides. Find a quiet spot to watch the sunrise or sunset. Bring some food for the wildlife. See someone? Wave and say hi keeping a safe distance.
I've never been afraid of dying, but I get horrified by the thought of not living.
It is NOT the flu, unless you are talking about the Spanish Flu.
blueash
04-01-2020, 11:03 AM
Jury is still out on that one as it's impossible to tell how many have had it and gotten over it.
No one yet has the correct data to figure this out yet.
At current numbers, 10x more lethal is still below 1%.
While you are certainly entitled to feel like this is nothing more than a bad flu, and to point out that beestings and car wrecks are killers also, your comments suggest to me a lack of understanding of the potential of Covid. It is not just a bad flu. Flu can be prevented with vaccines and treated with well tested medications. And despite those situations still kills over 30,000 Americans each year. Flu never fills hospitals with so many sick patients that they run out of ICU beds, run out of ventilators, have doctors, nurses and others dying. At least not since 1918.
Flu doesn't do what happened in Wuhan, and Italy, and on the Princess ship, and now in NYC. This disease is much more contagious than influenza and much more lethal. As essentially no one is naturally resistant to Covid and it spreads easily.
If you have never taken the opportunity to read about the 1918 flu it is worth doing now. Of course we all say it couldn't happen again because we have antibiotics and it was bacterial superinfection on top of viral influenza that actually killed most of the victims. Covid kills almost always on its own. Patients don't die from bacterial superinfections like in 1918, this virus kills by itself. Think smallpox, think Ebola.
Social distancing is going to help. We will have fewer cases but more importantly we will have a low wide wave not a high narrow one. It might be NYC now, and Detroit in a few weeks, and Omaha at the end of April. It is going to spread. But now that Detroit and Omaha are taking precautions, they won't end up like NYC which didn't have time to blunt the curve.
When this is done, and if only 250,000 Americans have died which is now the White House estimate, you can say, See only 10 times worse than a regular flu. And you'd still be wrong. Because without the dramatic interventions it would have been so very much higher.
Rosebud1949
04-01-2020, 11:17 AM
FAUCI and BIRX listen to them...... Search several Covid 19 info details.. and see what it helpful, practice social distancing , obey 9pm-6am curfew, and dont go out unless you have to.... there will ALWAYS BE THE FEW who spoil it for the rest of us, but dont let them win. They will succeed, but only in making it law and not advisory. BUT we will already be doing these things and will be used to it.
Rosebud1949
04-01-2020, 11:17 AM
I second that thought
Bucco
04-01-2020, 11:36 AM
You really need to keep the politics out of it while we're in a crisis ... try to help bail out the boat vs poking holes to help it sink.
While I never agree with your harping on the wrong things, i do agree, HOWEVER....UNDERSTAND something.....people are scared, people are confused and are comparing the things they hear.
They deserve a break...while you are obsessed on what role China plays in the virus (not much worried about the current round of missle testing from N Korea) most want to know how to stay safe and what is happening, so cut them a break
Aces4
04-01-2020, 11:55 AM
While I never agree with your harping on the wrong things, i do agree, HOWEVER....UNDERSTAND something.....people are scared, people are confused and are comparing the things they hear.
They deserve a break...while you are obsessed on what role China plays in the virus (not much worried about the current round of missle testing from N Korea) most want to know how to stay safe and what is happening, so cut them a break
I agree, it’s time for a break on the constant harping against the leader of this country and the brilliant team he has assembled to conquer this virus. It’s time for people to stop and think. This virus can be contained and that is with the cooperation of the population of the US. Be calm, there are updates almost daily from the White House and with this leadership we will come through this. Turn off the tabloid, sensationalist broadcasters and enjoy the tranquility in your home.
wisbad1
04-01-2020, 12:00 PM
The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..
1. wash your hands frequently
2. do NOT touch your face
If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.
Stay home!!!
biker1
04-01-2020, 12:04 PM
The federal leadership and the medical community are saying the same thing:
- wash your hands
- don't touch your face
- stay at home as much as possible and socially distance yourself when you aren't at home.
I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:
Bucco
04-01-2020, 12:10 PM
The federal leadership and the medical community are saying the same thing:
- wash your hands
- don't touch your face
- stay at home as much as possible and socially distance yourself when you aren't at home.
Agree,,,,,NOW they are and we should concentrate on that
TexaninVA
04-01-2020, 12:36 PM
While I never agree with your harping on the wrong things, i do agree, HOWEVER....UNDERSTAND something.....people are scared, people are confused and are comparing the things they hear.
They deserve a break...while you are obsessed on what role China plays in the virus (not much worried about the current round of missle testing from N Korea) most want to know how to stay safe and what is happening, so cut them a break
First of all, harping is a deliberately chosen inflammatory term on your part. Disappointing but not surprising. Tsk tsk. It's like you're picking a fight. I think it’s because you're still upset you never got around to preparing in advance and have an aversion to firearms. Maybe I’m reading you wrong?
I think the culpability of China is clear and needs to be pursued. I don’t think it’s obsessive but more like ignored, but hey you can think whatever you wish.
All of us are uncertain and otherwise trying cope. We need to unite and suck it up in a national emergency. However, there are still some people that seem to delight in taking shots at you know who. It’s like rooting for the captain to fail even thought that might mean the ship sinks. That’s both self-destructive and unpatriotic during this crisis.
manaboutown
04-01-2020, 12:37 PM
I agree, it’s time for a break on the constant harping against the leader of this country and the brilliant team he has assembled to conquer this virus. It’s time for people to stop and think. This virus can be contained and that is with the cooperation of the population of the US. Be calm, there are updates almost daily from the White House and with this leadership we will come through this. Turn off the tabloid, sensationalist broadcasters and enjoy the tranquility in your home.
Well said!
TexaninVA
04-01-2020, 12:38 PM
I was advising people stay calm and listen to the excellent team of people that have been assembled by our president. (The OP was looking for advice as to how to react to the virus.). Enough said.
Yes, agree. I think the complaining poster gets upset easily and can be emotionally fragile at times.
By all means listen to the medical professionals, not the government.
I absolutely would listen to the medical professionals before I would listen to the CDC, WHO or even NIH. It was the medical professionals who used the life-saving hydroxychloroquine and zithromax while the government was saying no, delaying it and looking at other drugs. This was happening even AFTER patients were successfully recovering using the malaria drug in combination with the antibiotic. Now after many deaths more patients are being treated with this combination and it is working!
TexaninVA
04-01-2020, 12:53 PM
Stay home!!!
Yes, very true. That's my baseline assumption but it never hurts to repeat it. :coolsmiley:
Mumbles
04-01-2020, 02:46 PM
It's the Flu folks! Granted if you get it, it could be worse but in the big picture... no, not really. Car wrecks and bee/wasp stings are still a far greater killer. Well it was before everyone ran inside scared to death by the media and government.
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Here is a site that tells you, through its personnel--pharmacists-- about how many in the USA die of bee stings per year. As a result, the statement you made, just about the bee stings alone and death of humans, is TOTALLY AND UNABASHADLY FOOLISH. Look it up or shut up. Deaths from hornet, wasp, and bee stings increasing | American Pharmacists Association (https://www.pharmacist.com/article/deaths-hornet-wasp-and-bee-stings-increasing) .
blueash
04-01-2020, 04:50 PM
I absolutely would listen to the medical professionals before I would listen to the CDC, WHO or even NIH. It was the medical professionals who used the life-saving hydroxychloroquine and zithromax while the government was saying no, delaying it and looking at other drugs. This was happening even AFTER patients were successfully recovering using the malaria drug in combination with the antibiotic. Now after many deaths more patients are being treated with this combination and it is working!
I am not sure who you mean when you say medical professionals and then exclude the CDC, WHO, and NIH from your list. Do you mean a GP you saw on Fox, or the misstatements of a politician? The government was not saying no, real medical professionals were saying be cautious, there are no good studies yet. Fortunately medical professionals did not abandon other potential treatments and say as you suggest, we already have the answer.
You might want to look at the first published attempt to replicate the findings (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0399077X20300858?via%3Dihub) you claim showed that the drug combination made patients recover. The attempt to show benefit using exactly the same medications failed. And more studies to come will hopefully clear it up. But your assertion that the combination has been proven to work is incorrect
Here is the title of the study:
No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
rsb03
04-01-2020, 09:42 PM
Please save yourselves. Listen to the CDC. They are scientists who know what they are talking about.
rsb03
04-01-2020, 09:43 PM
Better late than never. Stay safe.
New Englander
04-01-2020, 09:49 PM
I agree, it’s time for a break on the constant harping against the leader of this country and the brilliant team he has assembled to conquer this virus. It’s time for people to stop and think. This virus can be contained and that is with the cooperation of the population of the US. Be calm, there are updates almost daily from the White House and with this leadership we will come through this. Turn off the tabloid, sensationalist broadcasters and enjoy the tranquility in your home.
Well said!
manaboutown
04-01-2020, 10:51 PM
Fox News!
JimJohnson
04-02-2020, 02:51 AM
Please save yourselves. Listen to the CDC. They are scientists who know what they are talking about.
Have they been RE-Funded to the Obama era funding level?
Love2Swim
04-02-2020, 04:05 AM
I agree, it’s time for a break on the constant harping against the leader of this country and the brilliant team he has assembled to conquer this virus. It’s time for people to stop and think. This virus can be contained and that is with the cooperation of the population of the US. Be calm, there are updates almost daily from the White House and with this leadership we will come through this. Turn off the tabloid, sensationalist broadcasters and enjoy the tranquility in your home.
We need to listen to the scientists and healthcare officials, not the leader of the country who gives out misleading and incorrect information at every single press conference. Just yesterday he said again said that "nobody" could have foreseen a pandemic crisis leading to a shortage of ventilators”, for which there were numerous warnings. He predicted that the virus would no longer be a concern after about a month, a timeline totally at odds with assessments of health experts. They really need to limit his time at the podium.
yankygrl
04-02-2020, 09:59 AM
get the facts - not from the news on television or the dot com or daily sun or other newspaper...GO DIRECTLY TO CDC.GOV for all the latest and correct info. each state also has a specific website for the updates. Florida Dept. of Health is also a good site for the most accurate and up to date for our area.
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