View Full Version : Can / Will Local Law Enforcement Officers Arrest Us
jacksonbrown
04-02-2020, 06:00 AM
For violation of the state and/or county Stay-at-Home Advisory?
dewilson58
04-02-2020, 06:03 AM
Why test the system?? Stay at home. :ohdear:
Chatbrat
04-02-2020, 07:03 AM
Worse than getting arrested is getting sick/dead
Rango
04-02-2020, 07:45 AM
You will not get arrested. But you might get a “wood shampoo”
nututv
04-02-2020, 08:16 AM
What would you like to do that has you concerned? I go out everyday, several times a day and have been long before this social test even had a name. Some people think (or would surely like you to think) if you go out you're going to instantly become ill and die. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Stay away from people, crowds etc. Use common sense. You'll be just fine.
LiverpoolWalrus
04-02-2020, 08:46 AM
What would you like to do that has you concerned? I go out everyday, several times a day and have been long before this social test even had a name. Some people think (or would surely like you to think) if you go out you're going to instantly become ill and die. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Stay away from people, crowds etc. Use common sense. You'll be just fine.
I'm sure a lot of people will repeat this on this thread (even though here it is already)...the danger is you could get infected by being exposed to someone who doesn't know he/she is positive. Then even if you remain asymptomatic, you could theoretically pass it on to other people.
Granted the chances of either scenario happening are small, but they are there. And people are petrified by these odds whether warranted or not. Such is human nature.
On another note, hey OP, are you a fan of Jackson Browne? Count me among them big time.
Polar Bear
04-02-2020, 08:47 AM
They certainly have the authority when warranted. But there are lots of outdoor things that are legal under the order...walks, cycling, fishing, and others, all with social distancing of course.
Excuse me...time for my bike ride. :)
asianthree
04-02-2020, 09:28 AM
Orange County seem to be the issue close to home. Remember they have lots that are under 55, so those are the ones sheriff is trying to herd.
Topspinmo
04-02-2020, 10:35 AM
All got to say is: going to ______ fill in the blank, grocery store, drug store, liquor store, drive thru, hardware store, car dealer, post office, doctor office, ECC.
nututv
04-02-2020, 10:47 AM
...the danger is you could get infected by being exposed to someone who doesn't know he/she is positive. Then even if you remain asymptomatic, you could theoretically pass it on to other people.
I don't go out to see or be around others. That's just me. I'm OK with one or two others (maybe) but anymore than that is a Big No Thanks.
This whole social experiment hasn't changed a thing in my life really other than a few places reducing their hours. I feel sorry for the rest of society though. Unemployment, economy etc. is going to take a hit like few here has ever seen in their lifetime.
jacksonbrown
04-02-2020, 11:26 AM
are you a fan of Jackson Browne?
Huge, and, I am his namesake.
Just kidding
LiverpoolWalrus
04-02-2020, 11:32 AM
Huge, and, I am his namesake.
Just kidding
Kidding about being a huge fan or kidding about being named after him? In any case, I'm sure you've heard our man is positive for Covid and unknowingly passed it onto his son.
Two Bills
04-02-2020, 11:56 AM
Mama always said, "the man with the gun is always right."
And thats all I have to say on the subject.
FG.
skarra
04-02-2020, 12:40 PM
I'm sure they won't.
But whatever they ask you to do, don't resist. The last place you want to be is in Jail. Covid-19 is rampant there.
Mosells
04-02-2020, 02:19 PM
They are letting convicts out of jail due to corv-19. I don’t think they will put you in jail for not following what is no more than a suggestion to stay home.
DianeM
04-02-2020, 02:30 PM
They are letting convicts out of jail due to corv-19. I don’t think they will put you in jail for not following what is no more than a suggestion to stay home.
Ummm ... it’s not a suggestion. As of midnight tonight it is an order mandated by the governor.
dewilson58
04-02-2020, 02:36 PM
They are letting convicts out of jail due to corv-19. I don’t think they will put you in jail for not following what is no more than a suggestion to stay home.
:ohdear:
Explains a lot.
Velvet
04-02-2020, 02:48 PM
I'm sure a lot of people will repeat this on this thread (even though here it is already)...the danger is you could get infected by being exposed to someone who doesn't know he/she is positive. Then even if you remain asymptomatic, you could theoretically pass it on to other people.
Granted the chances of either scenario happening are small, but they are there. And people are petrified by these odds whether warranted or not. Such is human nature.
On another note, hey OP, are you a fan of Jackson Browne? Count me among them big time.
Not “small” I just read a new study from Iceland where wide spread testing was conducted shows 50% of people testing positive were asymptomatic and shedding.
CNN
Some of the revelations have been stark. Although fewer than 1% of the tests came back positive for the virus, the company's founder Dr. Kári Stefánsson told CNN that around 50% of those who tested positive said they were asymptomatic, confirming multiple studies that show that asymptomatic, or mildly symptomatic, people have played an important role in spreading the virus.
LiverpoolWalrus
04-02-2020, 04:10 PM
Not “small” I just read a new study from Iceland where wide spread testing was conducted shows 50% of people testing positive were asymptomatic and shedding.
CNN
Some of the revelations have been stark. Although fewer than 1% of the tests came back positive for the virus, the company's founder Dr. Kári Stefánsson told CNN that around 50% of those who tested positive said they were asymptomatic, confirming multiple studies that show that asymptomatic, or mildly symptomatic, people have played an important role in spreading the virus.
Thanks for that, Velvet. Yes it’s unsettling to know asymptomatic people can infect, and have infected, other people. So social isolation is indeed a good thing. But what’s still unknown is the likelihood of passing it on while asymptomatic.
I’ve seen some references (hoping they’re true because I’ve seen a number of them) that suggest the odds are small, and it’s much more likely that symptomatic people spread the virus. Knowing 50% of positive Icelanders are asymptomatic doesn’t reveal much about degree of contagiousness. I’d like to know more about their habits. Were they rarely around other people? Did they go to bars, concerts and sporting events? That sort of thing. I’m sure the Icelandic Health Department asked those questions on intake, but unfortunately investigative journalism has gone the way of poodle skirts, and today’s reporters are either unaware that high standards require digging deeper, or they are discouraged by their outlets from releasing anything that softens the message (my opinion, B).
Nonetheless, 50% is a very sobering number. It certainly underscores the need to step up testing dramatically. And it’s why the OP is being advised that infection by unwitting asymptomatic people is theoretically possible.
njbchbum
04-02-2020, 05:16 PM
Ummm ... it’s not a suggestion. As of midnight tonight it is an order mandated by the governor.
I have read the Gov's advisory - can you provide a copy of or a citation for that changing to a Gov's order? Thanks.
njbchbum
04-02-2020, 05:18 PM
For violation of the state and/or county Stay-at-Home Advisory?
Why did you ask that here rather than your local law enforcement office? If ya do - let us know what you are told.
Kahuna32162
04-02-2020, 05:23 PM
YES, you will be arrested, you should be arrested and you should be stuck in a small room with positive virus carriers. Don't be an idiot, do what you're told. Your life will not end just because you stay in your house for 30 days, it might even help this end quicker. Sorry to be so harsh, but it's getting really unsettling to read about how many people here can't or won't be smart. Last thing any of us want is yo see YOUR name in the obits.
champion6
04-02-2020, 05:23 PM
I have read the Gov's advisory - can you provide a copy of or a citation for that changing to a Gov's order? Thanks.Here is the order.
anothersteve
04-02-2020, 05:29 PM
YES, you will be arrested, you should be arrested and you should be stuck in a small room with positive virus carriers.
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Judge, Jury and executioner.
Nice! :pray:
Steve
asianthree
04-02-2020, 06:12 PM
YES, you will be arrested, you should be arrested and you should be stuck in a small room with positive virus carriers. Don't be an idiot, do what you're told. Your life will not end just because you stay in your house for 30 days, it might even help this end quicker. Sorry to be so harsh, but it's getting really unsettling to read about how many people here can't or won't be smart. Last thing any of us want is yo see YOUR name in the obits.
I get the panic, but to tell people they will live if They never leave their house, for 30 days, is not a guarantee..
In the next 30 days, you could slip and fall in the shower, brain bleed, have a massive Coronary, fall fracture your hip and can’t call any one, have a stroke, or a dissecting AAA. Or just go peacefully in your sleep.
If it’s your time, you do not get a vote.
Obits are in the paper everyday, so far none in TV list virus. They even come in conveniently in alphabetical order
Topspinmo
04-02-2020, 06:22 PM
For violation of the state and/or county Stay-at-Home Advisory?
Yes, they can legally arrest you for anything, you have The right to get lawyer and prove you’re innocent’s.
Topspinmo
04-02-2020, 06:24 PM
YES, you will be arrested, you should be arrested and you should be stuck in a small room with positive virus carriers. Don't be an idiot, do what you're told. Your life will not end just because you stay in your house for 30 days, it might even help this end quicker. Sorry to be so harsh, but it's getting really unsettling to read about how many people here can't or won't be smart. Last thing any of us want is yo see YOUR name in the obits.
And it might not, so far it hasn’t. Cause there always rule breakers.
kcrazorbackfan
04-02-2020, 07:16 PM
Why would they arrest someone? About the only time they arrest anyone now is if they are DUI, have a DUI wreck or if they assault anyone.
It's time for Sheriff Farmer to go and get a Sheriff in office that's more proactive in enforcing laws and not acting like Sheriff Andy Taylor of Mayberry.
Kenswing
04-02-2020, 08:29 PM
Be thankful we're not in the Philippines..
"Shoot them dead": Duterte orders police to kill Filipinos who defy coronavirus lockdown (https://www.yahoo.com/news/shoot-them-dead-duterte-orders-054807610.html)
But Duterte's threat may be the boldest. "I will not hesitate my soldiers to shoot you," Duterte said in forceful tones Wednesday. "I will not hesitate to order the police to arrest and detain you. Now, if you are detained, I will leave it up to you to find food."
EdFNJ
04-02-2020, 08:49 PM
Sorry, I misread your comment but will leave the other info anyway.
I have read the Gov's advisory - can you provide a copy of or a citation for that changing to a Gov's order? Thanks. It probably goes under a "general" law of some sort but here is how one local TV station explained it:
RELATED: What Florida's 'stay at home' order means for residents (https://www.wptv.com/news/state/what-floridas-stay-at-home-order-means-for-residents)
"Law enforcement will try to ask each person what they're doing there and if it's going to shopping or somewhere, they will work with that person to try to make sure they comply with the order without first arresting them or charging them," he said.
Aronberg said the orders are enforceable by 60 days in the county jail, because it's a second-degree misdemeanor.
"Yes, we have the power to make an arrest and to charge people with a crime for violating it, but we'd rather not get to there," he said. "We'd rather people voluntarily comply with it and that way it's neighbor watching over neighbor and making sure this is the safest our community can be."
How will Florida'''s '''stay at home''' order be enforced? (https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/how-will-floridas-stay-at-home-order-be-enforced)
DianeM
04-02-2020, 09:00 PM
I have read the Gov's advisory - can you provide a copy of or a citation for that changing to a Gov's order? Thanks.
Did you think I made it up? It was all over the news and TOTV yesterday.
DianeM
04-02-2020, 09:24 PM
I get the panic, but to tell people they will live if They never leave their house, for 30 days, is not a guarantee..
In the next 30 days, you could slip and fall in the shower, brain bleed, have a massive Coronary, fall fracture your hip and can’t call any one, have a stroke, or a dissecting AAA. Or just go peacefully in your sleep.
If it’s your time, you do not get a vote.
Obits are in the paper everyday, so far none in TV list virus. They even come in conveniently in alphabetical order
Yes of course you could be the victim of any of those tragedies. But, this virus is a known killer. Why fight international methods of suppression? Would you walk in front of a speeding train?
njbchbum
04-02-2020, 10:03 PM
Here is the order.
Thanx so much!!!!! :)
njbchbum
04-02-2020, 10:11 PM
Did you think I made it up? It was all over the news and TOTV yesterday.
Well I wanted to read it and you did not provide a cite for it - nor did the news or TOTV! And as far as what you make up or don't make up - there are a lot of your posts that I don't care for what you have to say. This one I did and I asked for your assistance - which you failed to provide. I appreciate the assistance Champion6 provided! I can now discuss it with others from a factual basis!
njbchbum
04-02-2020, 10:15 PM
Sorry, I misread your comment but will leave the other info anyway.
It probably goes under a "general" law of some sort but here is how one local TV station explained it:
RELATED: What Florida's 'stay at home' order means for residents (https://www.wptv.com/news/state/what-floridas-stay-at-home-order-means-for-residents)
"Law enforcement will try to ask each person what they're doing there and if it's going to shopping or somewhere, they will work with that person to try to make sure they comply with the order without first arresting them or charging them," he said.
Aronberg said the orders are enforceable by 60 days in the county jail, because it's a second-degree misdemeanor.
"Yes, we have the power to make an arrest and to charge people with a crime for violating it, but we'd rather not get to there," he said. "We'd rather people voluntarily comply with it and that way it's neighbor watching over neighbor and making sure this is the safest our community can be."
How will Florida'''s '''stay at home''' order be enforced? (https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/how-will-floridas-stay-at-home-order-be-enforced)
Wowza! Thanx EdFNJ!
Bay Kid
04-03-2020, 07:23 AM
Fear. This has created so much fear.
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