Golf in, Pickleball is out

[alemorkam]

Just reported by the Daily Sun. All courts will be closed until further notice tonight. All golf course will remain open.

[roob1]

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Found it: TheVillagesDailySun (@vdailysun) on Twitter (https://twitter.com/vdailysun)


Just reported by the Daily Sun. All courts will be closed until further notice tonight. All golf course will remain open.

[Topspinmo]

Yep, wouldn’t want the developers to suffer too much. Some golfer’s are the worst offenders of the rules.

[champion6]

And from the Daily Sun Facebook page:
JUST IN: All Villages recreation and sports courts, including pickleball and tennis, will close tonight due to the governor's 30-day, stay-at-home order. Nature trails, walkways, cycling areas, golf courses and fishing ponds remain open.

[Polar Bear]

Yep, wouldn’t want the developers to suffer too much. Some golfer’s are the worst offenders of the rules.
Yeah right...

Some <fill in the blank> are the worst offenders of the rules.

[Nucky]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Don't make me call Nucky! :boxing2:

Oh my! Two of my favorite posters having a conflict. Do you think it is the current circumstances we are living under?

I go to the highest Bidder! Rocco & Vito are busy rite now on another mission! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CW saved me the other day so thats a tie breaker.

[dewilson58]

Oh my! Two of my favorite posters having a conflict. Do you think it is the current circumstances we are living under?

I go to the highest Bidder! Rocco & Vito are busy rite now on another mission! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:




Food Fight!!!! :coolsmiley:

[NECHFalcon68]

It was interesting to see all the Holes-in-One listed in today's paper, especially those in past few days.

How can you have a hole-in-one when the ball doesn't go into the cup?

[CWGUY]

Oh my! Two of my favorite posters having a conflict. Do you think it is the current circumstances we are living under?

I go to the highest Bidder! Rocco & Vito are busy rite now on another mission! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CW saved me the other day so thats a tie breaker.

:1rotfl: Make him an offer he can't refuse......:boom:

And remember:
Everytime you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: NOT MY CIRCUS - NOT MY MONKEYS

[tomwed]

It's a PVCIO, a pipe dream come true.

[dewilson58]

It was interesting to see all the Holes-in-One listed in today's paper, especially those in past few days.

How can you have a hole-in-one when the ball doesn't go into the cup?




How??.............golf without integrity.

[golfing eagles]

It was interesting to see all the Holes-in-One listed in today's paper, especially those in past few days.

How can you have a hole-in-one when the ball doesn't go into the cup?

Pipe in one???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Vito and Rocco are the judges

[twoplanekid]

From the District office ->

Good Afternoon Supervisors and Committee Members,



Based on guidance provided by local health officials and in compliance with the State of Florida Office of the Governor’s Executive Order Number 20-91 dated April 1, 2020, all Recreation outdoor courts and outdoor equipment will be closed effective at 5:00 p.m. today, April 2nd. The courts and equipment will remain closed until further notice.



In addition to these closures, District departments are preparing plans in which we will continue to provide essential services while following all recommended guidance of local officials, as well as remaining in compliance with the latest Executive Order. I will send you another email later today with operational changes that will take effect tomorrow, April 3rd.



As was included in the Executive Order, participating in recreation activities (consistent with social distancing) such as walking, biking, hiking, fishing, hunting, etc. remain permitted. As Golf is conducive for social distancing and allows individuals to participate in compliance with local and state health official guidance, all courses remain open at this time.



Thank you again for your support.

Richard Baier

[karostay]

What's a Pickle Ball any way?

[tomwed]

With golf everyone has their own ball. In pickle ball it's the ball that spreads the germs. Can't you just pretend there's a ball? I pretend there is a hole?

[tophcfa]

Well, if it came down to a choice between one or the other, I applaud the choice : )

[JGVillages]

:popcorn:Look on the bright side some people's favorite sport is still available ....... MORSE BASHING. You're a level 1 player..... right? :rolleyes:

Is it smart to require employees to staff the pro shops? Is it essential to sell merchandise in the shops that not only golfers but shoppers who shouldn’t be there are handling. I think that with all the unemployed struggling the entitled golfers in The Villages could jump on the STAY AT HOME TRAIN and be extra safe. I am a pickleballer and golfer and have done neither for 3 weeks without regret. Can anyone state with certainty that of the 1000’s of golfers playing daily here that none are infected or have infected others. If you can’t STAY HOME.

[Topspinmo]

With golf everyone has their own ball. In pickle ball it's the ball that spreads the germs. Can't you just pretend there's a ball? I pretend there is a hole?

Let’s say someone spits on the course and is infected and he don’t know it? Now you hit you’re ball and it rolls through the spit. Now you pick you’re ball. About the same odds as getting it off pickleball that’s been disinfected before and after every game along with players that touch the ball. Tell me you disinfect you golf ball after every hole along with you’re hands?

[Topspinmo]

What's a Pickle Ball any way?

A round pickle!?!

[VApeople]

How can you have a hole-in-one when the ball doesn't go into the cup?

If you hit the cup that holds the flagstick, the United States Golf Association has ruled that counts as a hole-in-one and you can post that score as a valid round of golf that will be used to determine your USGA handicap.

[kcrazorbackfan]

:popcorn:Look on the bright side some people's favorite sport is still available ....... MORSE BASHING. You're a level 1 player..... right? :rolleyes:

MORSE BASHING over and over and over is all that some of these simple simons have to look forward to in life.

Anytime anyone damns the Morse family it's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I still haven't figured out, after 5 1/2 yrs. here, why The Morse's **** so many people off, the same people that probably couldn't wait to get here to what they built.

[CFrance]

Solution: portable pickleball net. End of main CYV street (only effects two houses). Chalked lines. People in grocery stores and parking lots are closer to each other than four people on a pickleball court.

The story goes (and up for question) that the family who made up the pickleball game had a dog named Pickle who chased after the ball. Questionable.

[EdFNJ]

Solution: portable pickleball net. End of main CYV street (only effects two houses). Chalked lines. People in grocery stores and parking lots are closer to each other than four people on a pickleball court.
It's a very poor comparison. When you park you leave your vehicle and walk away without much physical exertion, when you pickleball you sweat, spit when you talk, cough, fart and spread your bodily fluids unknowingly in many directions affecting OTHERS AROUND YOU.

[Northwoods]

It was interesting to see all the Holes-in-One listed in today's paper, especially those in past few days.

How can you have a hole-in-one when the ball doesn't go into the cup?

These are all the people that are too cheap to buy drinks, but they want to claim they got a hole in one. And they want to believe they got a hole in one. To me... no way you can claim that unless you're playing a course like Grey Fox where the ball does actually "fall" into a hole that is more shallow than the normal hole.

[Marathon Man]

Let’s say someone spits on the course and is infected and he don’t know it? Now you hit you’re ball and it rolls through the spit. Now you pick you’re ball. About the same odds as getting it off pickleball that’s been disinfected before and after every game along with players that touch the ball. Tell me you disinfect you golf ball after every hole along with you’re hands?

The virus can not live on a golf ball because of the dimples. With pickleball, the virus will climb through one of the holes and wait inside the ball to jump out at you when you check for a crack. So, the odds are very different.

[CFrance]

It's a very poor comparison. When you park you leave your vehicle and walk away without much physical exertion, when you pickleball you sweat, spit when you talk, cough, fart and spread your bodily fluids unknowingly in many directions affecting OTHERS AROUND YOU.
I don't know who you play pickleball with, but nobody I play with does any of that except sweat. And not within 6 feet of each other either.


You get closer passing people on a walking trail or in a grocery store than you do playing pickleball. The cashier at Winn-Dixie yesterday was closer to me than my husband was the whole hour and a half we played that morning.



What they're trying to stop is people lining up for open play. If the players stuck to the same four to a court with the middle courts empty, it works.


How they can call pickleball non essential but golf e$$ential is beyond me. Twenty golf carts parked within inches of each other at the starter shacks and people lined up waiting to check in.

[gregcharlesnelson@gmail]

It's all relative

[davem4616]

MORSE BASHING over and over and over is all that some of these simple simons have to look forward to in life.

Anytime anyone damns the Morse family it's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I still haven't figured out, after 5 1/2 yrs. here, why The Morse's **** so many people off, the same people that probably couldn't wait to get here to what they built.



Totally agree with this post....The Morse family has, is and will always do a fantastic job with anything they tackle....why, because they have integrity, they have vision and they certainly have a sense of responsibility.

To all the Morse-bashers I say...grow up and stop acting like cry babies...The Morse family doesn't owe you a darn thing

[Oneiric]

Common sense has been abandoned. Viruses are killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet. In order to get the virus from a dry plastic ball, you'd have to lick the ball right after someone handed it to you.

[Marathon Man]

Common sense has been abandoned. Viruses are killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet. In order to get the virus from a dry plastic ball, you'd have to lick the ball right after someone handed it to you.

This is how the virus gets spread around. Do you actually think that thousands of people got the virus by licking something?

[karostay]

Let’s say someone spits on the course and is infected and he don’t know it? Now you hit you’re ball and it rolls through the spit. Now you pick you’re ball. About the same odds as getting it off pickleball that’s been disinfected before and after every game along with players that touch the ball. Tell me you disinfect you golf ball after every hole along with you’re hands?

I'd say you have better odds of getting a hole in one on every hole
Than contacting that one hypothetically infected droplet

[Fore!]

[QUOTE=JGVillages;1739172]Is it smart to require employees to staff the pro shops? Is it essential to sell merchandise in the shops that not only golfers but shoppers who shouldn’t be there are handling. “

Amen

[Villageswimmer]

Common sense has been abandoned. Viruses are killed by dryness, heat, and ultraviolet. In order to get the virus from a dry plastic ball, you'd have to lick the ball right after someone handed it to you.

Are you a doctor or do you just play one on TOTV?

[Mamaderby]

It was interesting to see all the Holes-in-One listed in today's paper, especially those in past few days.

How can you have a hole-in-one when the ball doesn't go into the cup?
Maybe call it a “thunk-in-one” 🤣

[PoolBrews]

If you hit the cup that holds the flagstick, the United States Golf Association has ruled that counts as a hole-in-one and you can post that score as a valid round of golf that will be used to determine your USGA handicap.

Nowhere does the USGA state this. This is a current rumor that has been spread by those that want to count these as holes in one. For handicapping purposes, they state you can post your score as long as you correct the score to accurately show what your score would have actually been without the PVC. i.e. - a putt is rolling at the proper speed and hits the PVC dead center (or nearly dead center), it's probably in. If it glances off the outer portion of the PVC, it's most likely not - if you put the ball touching the PVC, the ball is rolling outside of the hole - no way it's going in.

By these rules, there is no way you can tell from the tee where the ball hit the PVC, and how hard it hit - thus no hole in one.

I had one Saturday, and another on Tuesday. I did not register them - they are not real hole in ones.

This is croquet golf, not real golf. Claiming a hole in one now is worse than a hole in one on the bigger holes (those are not sanctioned by the USGA either).

[Villageswimmer]

[QUOTE=JGVillages;1739172]Is it smart to require employees to staff the pro shops? Is it essential to sell merchandise in the shops that not only golfers but shoppers who shouldn’t be there are handling. “

Amen


Good question. Someone here can justify it, I’m sure.

[Bay Kid]

Not to worry, the government will take care of this golfing problem. They know best?

[biker1]

The pro shops are clearly an issue and so are the executive starter shacks. The rec department should consider dropping the daily trail fee and greens fees (for non residents) on the executives so no cash has be be exchanged.

Is it smart to require employees to staff the pro shops? Is it essential to sell merchandise in the shops that not only golfers but shoppers who shouldn’t be there are handling. I think that with all the unemployed struggling the entitled golfers in The Villages could jump on the STAY AT HOME TRAIN and be extra safe. I am a pickleballer and golfer and have done neither for 3 weeks without regret. Can anyone state with certainty that of the 1000’s of golfers playing daily here that none are infected or have infected others. If you can’t STAY HOME.

[theruizs]

Just reported by the Daily Sun. All courts will be closed until further notice tonight. All golf course will remain open.

Gov, supervisors, etc. play golf, not pickleball:icon_wink:

[Bambi]

I live on a course. Five minutes ago, a golfer, left the course, walked within two feet of my lanai and rummaged thru my landscaping. Three times I asked him to leave my property and return to the course. He refused, ignored me until he found a couple balls. Stay at home order does not mean you trespass on the private property of another and refuse to leave. Called starter shack to have ambassador speak to him. I thought golf was a gentleman’s game.

[DonH57]

Are you a doctor or do you just play one on TOTV?

Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!:1rotfl:

[kwachowski]

Why are the golf courses open putting their employees at risk?

[DonH57]

I live on a course. Five minutes ago, a golfer, left the course, walked within two feet of my lanai and rummaged thru my landscaping. Three times I asked him to leave my property and return to the course. He refused, ignored me until he found a couple balls. Stay at home order does not mean you trespass on the private property of another and refuse to leave. Called starter shack to have ambassador speak to him. I thought golf was a gentleman’s game.

That certainly wasn't a gentleman. I never ever go into someone's yard to retrieve a ball. It's not my property. People should be called out for that. It's poor judgement and common sense not to trespass.

[CWGUY]

I live on a course. Five minutes ago, a golfer, left the course, walked within two feet of my lanai and rummaged thru my landscaping. Three times I asked him to leave my property and return to the course. He refused, ignored me until he found a couple balls. Stay at home order does not mean you trespass on the private property of another and refuse to leave. Called starter shack to have ambassador speak to him. I thought golf was a gentleman’s game.

:rolleyes: I would have used the garden hose!

[Topspinmo]

Why are the golf courses open putting their employees at risk?

follow the money.

[Topspinmo]

That certainly wasn't a gentleman. I never ever go into someone's yard to retrieve a ball. It's not my property. People should be called out for that. It's poor judgement and common sense not to trespass.


I’m too embarrassed to go looking for golf balls, especially when one strays off course property. I don’t even go in out of bounds to retrieve ball. It holds up play. They are too cheap to re-supply the ball.

[Rosie1950]

It's a very poor comparison. When you park you leave your vehicle and walk away without much physical exertion, when you pickleball you sweat, spit when you talk, cough, fart and spread your bodily fluids unknowingly in many directions affecting OTHERS AROUND YOU.
Well I don’t know about that. Plenty of walking farters around,at the postal station, grocery, town squares, they just let’em rip. LOL
I guess they think if they can’t hear nobody else can either
Never mind N95 masks sometimes u need gas masks

[justjim]

That certainly wasn't a gentleman. I never ever go into someone's yard to retrieve a ball. It's not my property. People should be called out for that. It's poor judgement and common sense not to trespass.

This person may or may not be an “experienced” golfer who doesn’t know golf etiquette. Either way he owes the property owner an apology.

[CFrance]

This person may or may not be an “experienced” golfer who doesn’t know golf etiquette. Either way he owes the property owner an apology.
And besides golf etiquette, there's the thing about not trespassing, which applies everywhere.

[chet2020]

I live on a course. Five minutes ago, a golfer, left the course, walked within two feet of my lanai and rummaged thru my landscaping. Three times I asked him to leave my property and return to the course. He refused, ignored me until he found a couple balls. Stay at home order does not mean you trespass on the private property of another and refuse to leave. Called starter shack to have ambassador speak to him. I thought golf was a gentleman’s game.

I'm a golfer and that golfer was a jerk, pandemic or not.

[golfing eagles]

And besides golf etiquette, there's the thing about not trespassing, which applies everywhere.

The following may surprise everyone, it certainly surprised me (and I live on a golf course)

By Raymond Schumann - Board Certified Real Estate Attorney:

"Golf course communities always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements and covenants that permit golfers to retrieve their errant balls. This section might read: "Every Lot and the Common Area is burdened with an easement permitting golf balls hit from the Club facilities to unintentionally come upon the Lot and for golfers at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner to come upon the exterior portions of the Lot to retrieve errant golf balls." If the Lot is fenced or walled, the documents usually confirm that the golfer must seek the Owner's or Occupant's permission before entry.
In other words, people may enter property to retrieve items such as golf balls, or pets if they do so in a reasonable manner. Tearing down a fence would not be considered reasonable. Every owner of property located on or adjacent to a golf course should become familiar with the applicable sections of the deed restrictions, easements and covenants governing their property."

I still won't go into someone's yard to retrieve a ball, but if someone comes into my yard, they apparently have the legal right to do so. There are certain properties on certain courses (and golfers know where they are), that you should avoid at all costs---the homeowner is NUTS--to the point that he has a restraining order against him

[xNYer]

The following may surprise everyone, it certainly surprised me (and I live on a golf course)

By Raymond Schumann - Board Certified Real Estate Attorney:

"Golf course communities always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements and covenants that permit golfers to retrieve their errant balls. This section might read: "Every Lot and the Common Area is burdened with an easement permitting golf balls hit from the Club facilities to unintentionally come upon the Lot and for golfers at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner to come upon the exterior portions of the Lot to retrieve errant golf balls." If the Lot is fenced or walled, the documents usually confirm that the golfer must seek the Owner's or Occupant's permission before entry.
In other words, people may enter property to retrieve items such as golf balls, or pets if they do so in a reasonable manner. Tearing down a fence would not be considered reasonable. Every owner of property located on or adjacent to a golf course should become familiar with the applicable sections of the deed restrictions, easements and covenants governing their property."

I still won't go into someone's yard to retrieve a ball, but if someone comes into my yard, they apparently have the legal right to do so. There are certain properties on certain courses (and golfers know where they are), that you should avoid at all costs---the homeowner is NUTS--to the point that he has a restraining order against him

I couldn’t find anything similar to that in the deed restrictions for my lot in The Villages.

[golfing eagles]

I couldn’t find anything similar to that in the deed restrictions for my lot in The Villages.

I'll take your word for it, I didn't check. And I have no idea if this is something that applies to all of Florida or if it is a community by community regulation.

In either case, I think it is just plain rude to do so without permission. If I'm sitting on my lanai, I tell golfers to go right ahead and get their ball, but I support anyone who doesn't want them to.

[Bambi]

Sorry. Nothing in deed restrictions in The Villages reference right of a golfer to trespass on your property and rummage through your landscaping with their golf club. If there was such an easement would The Villages assume liability for “slip and falls?”. If you read the Good Golf rule booklet, it specifically states not to leave the golf course to retrieve balls.
Nowhere does it state that the homeowner must allow strangers on their private property.
As far as the edge of the property, I have found golfers looking for balls in my front yard and walking past my bedroom and bathroom windows.
A few golfers have politely asked if they can look for their ball but most just barge on in usually accompanied by one or two of their “helpful friends.”
If you cannot afford to replace a ball and you think you are entitled to invade someone’s property, maybe it is time to find a sport you can afford.

[justjim]

I couldn’t find anything similar to that in the deed restrictions for my lot in The Villages.

It’s not in my deed restrictions here in The Villages. Good golf school here in TV teaches not to enter yards unless invited to retrieve a golf ball.

[Bay Kid]

The drawback of being golf front is golfers, but most golfers are very respectful of the property owners.

[Knighterrant]

Another addition to the arguments regarding shutting down pickle ball. Farting! The newest method of transmitting a virus.

[CFrance]

The following may surprise everyone, it certainly surprised me (and I live on a golf course)

By Raymond Schumann - Board Certified Real Estate Attorney:

"Golf course communities always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements and covenants that permit golfers to retrieve their errant balls. This section might read: "Every Lot and the Common Area is burdened with an easement permitting golf balls hit from the Club facilities to unintentionally come upon the Lot and for golfers at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner to come upon the exterior portions of the Lot to retrieve errant golf balls." If the Lot is fenced or walled, the documents usually confirm that the golfer must seek the Owner's or Occupant's permission before entry.
In other words, people may enter property to retrieve items such as golf balls, or pets if they do so in a reasonable manner. Tearing down a fence would not be considered reasonable. Every owner of property located on or adjacent to a golf course should become familiar with the applicable sections of the deed restrictions, easements and covenants governing their property."

I still won't go into someone's yard to retrieve a ball, but if someone comes into my yard, they apparently have the legal right to do so. There are certain properties on certain courses (and golfers know where they are), that you should avoid at all costs---the homeowner is NUTS--to the point that he has a restraining order against him
I don't think rummaging through someone's landscaping would qualify as a reasonable manner.