What could be safer than exective golf

[Virginians]

Answer STAYING AT HOME
My wife and I don't want to get the virus . we don't want to die right now
We have been playing executive golf until yesterday. We Where paired with 2 men that where maybe the nicest guys out there.
They were so nice that they got in our face. They were so nice that they gave a fist but to my wife.
Golf needs to limit tee times to 2 people. This will mean cutting down your 2 a day executive golf so that others can also play.

[DeanFL]

We play exec golf 3x per week - ONLY with people we know that we schedule. EVERYONE we play with knows the rules - distance, don't touch our stuff, and most importantly - NO commentary or laughing out loud when I hit my usual bad shots.

[Marvic 1]

I agree they should but couples out by themselves, twosomes all the way down the line..
BTW,
Were they hitting from the Blacks when they should be hitting from the Green, that's what we used to get when we were only a threesome that lonely guy out of nowhere would join us..... :MOJE_whot:

[JoMar]

I agree they should but couples out by themselves, twosomes all the way down the line..
BTW,
Were they hitting from the Blacks when they should be hitting from the Green, that's what we used to get when we were only a threesome that lonely guy out of nowhere would join us..... :MOJE_whot:

When that happens, time to explain the social distancing rules that you play under. If my wife and I are paired that is our first discussion with the other folks prior to the first tee. We discuss social distancing, do not touch our ball or clubs and we won't touch yours. If that's an issue for them we will play with them but not be on the tee or the greens at the same time. If an Ambassador says anything we would explain the reason. So far, no issues with anyone we have played with and in fact, all have been in total agreement.

[DonnaNi4os]

We play exec golf 3x per week - ONLY with people we know that we schedule. EVERYONE we play with knows the rules - distance, don't touch our stuff, and most importantly - NO commentary or laughing out loud when I hit my usual bad shots.


It is my feeling that the golf courses should be closed. The medical community will soon be overtaxed here and, whether you believe it or not, golf is not essential and you aren’t really social distancing. My kids are in NJ and the tragic statistics happening there will soon be happening here. I don’t understand why they are still open, but hey, that’s just my opinion. Why aren’t we taking this more seriously? I don’t get it. This virus is a lung eater. So before you decide to head out to the “greens” think about what it would be like to be on a ventilator.

[golfing eagles]

It is my feeling that the golf courses should be closed. The medical community will soon be overtaxed here and, whether you believe it or not, golf is not essential and you aren’t really social distancing. My kids are in NJ and the tragic statistics happening there will soon be happening here. I don’t understand why they are still open, but hey, that’s just my opinion. Why aren’t we taking this more seriously? I don’t get it. This virus is a lung eater. So before you decide to head out to the “greens” think about what it would be like to be on a ventilator.


It is my feeling that the golf courses should be closed.

Pure opinion

The medical community will soon be overtaxed here

Pure speculation

you aren’t really social distancing.

Yes, we are

in NJ and the tragic statistics happening there will soon be happening here.

More speculation

But thank you for your informative post

[New Englander]

It is my feeling that the golf courses should be closed. The medical community will soon be overtaxed here and, whether you believe it or not, golf is not essential and you aren’t really social distancing. My kids are in NJ and the tragic statistics happening there will soon be happening here. I don’t understand why they are still open, but hey, that’s just my opinion. Why aren’t we taking this more seriously? I don’t get it. This virus is a lung eater. So before you decide to head out to the “greens” think about what it would be like to be on a ventilator.

I feel the same way. Golf should be closed like everything else.

[golfing eagles]

I feel the same way. Golf should be closed like everything else.

simple question----WHY?

Don't answer with an opinion, or your paranoia, or that you know somebody who got the virus.

Give me definitive scientifically validated published cases of COVID-19 transmission on a golf course where people are practicing social distancing. Anything short of that is just babbling.

[dewilson58]

I'm a golfer, like the option to play.......but I think the issue is, too many violations of Social Distancing on the golf course. I see it all the time. I see it when I'm not even playing.

[New Englander]

simple question----WHY?

Don't answer with an opinion, or your paranoia, or that you know somebody who got the virus.

Give me definitive scientifically validated published cases of COVID-19 transmission on a golf course where people are practicing social distancing. Anything short of that is just babbling.

My answer is the same as Mr Isolated just gave.

[golfing eagles]

My answer is the same as Mr Isolated just gave.

In other words, your objection isn't to the policy and procedures that are keeping the courses open, it is with those who are violating it. Take your argument up with THEM.

And lets not hear the inane argument that the only way to stop them is to shut it all down for the zillionth time---that is akin to shutting down all interstate highways because some drivers are going 100+

[CFrance]

I'm a golfer, like the option to play.......but I think the issue is, too many violations of Social Distancing on the golf course. I see it all the time. I see it when I'm not even playing.
Somebody said golf carts provide social distancing just by their size. I disagree with that. The parking slots at the starter shacks are not providing 6 feet distance between carts. In fact, they're barely two feet. We drove by several today (on my way to doctor-ordered x-ray) and the lots were full.



And that is fact, not opinion.

[Anne17]

But what about the single golfers who like to play as much as you do? Do we just say to heck with them? Have a heart. Tell people you are following social distance rules and to please do the same while you are with them. Most people are very willing to social distance if you ask them even if they don't practice it themselves.

[dewilson58]

In other words, your objection isn't to the policy and procedures that are keeping the courses open, it is with those who are violating it. Take your argument up with THEM.

And lets not hear the inane argument that the only way to stop them is to shut it all down for the zillionth time---that is akin to shutting down all interstate highways because some drivers are going 100+


Have you not shared a golf cart in the last month??


Have you not been within six feet of another in line to pay for a round of golf??
(the counters are only three feet)



Have you not been within six feet of an Ambassador??


Of course you have.

(remember, there are hundreds of golfers out there......playing and observing)


The truth shall make you free.


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[New Englander]

In other words, your objection isn't to the policy and procedures that are keeping the courses open, it is with those who are violating it. Take your argument up with THEM.

And lets not hear the inane argument that the only way to stop them is to shut it all down for the zillionth time---that is akin to shutting down all interstate highways because some drivers are going 100+

You're taking this personal. Not going to argue. Be safe.

[karostay]

Shut all activities down then were all =
Then there's no need to watch over the fence see who's doing what

[bumpygreens]

A lot of arguments would be prevented if we turned off our televisions with the 24 hour news cycle and started using our heads for more than a hat rack. The vast majority of golfers are social distancing. Most outdoor activities are safe if you use a little common sense. If you are going to wear a mask and gloves, learn about cross-contamination. You're far more likely to infect yourself through misuse of those things than you are from 9 holes of golf. And don't waste a mask to take a walk, ride in a golf cart, or to ride a bike. It's completely unnecessary.

[golfing eagles]

Have you not shared a golf cart in the last month??


Have you not been within six feet of another in line to pay for a round of golf??
(the counters are only three feet)



Have you not been within six feet of an Ambassador??


Of course you have.

(remember, there are hundreds of golfers out there......playing and observing)


The truth shall make you free.


:faint:


Actually no, no, and yes, I shared a cart with my doctor---but he's been a lot closer than a golf cart

[kansasr]

Answer STAYING AT HOME
My wife and I don't want to get the virus . we don't want to die right now
We have been playing executive golf until yesterday. We Where paired with 2 men that where maybe the nicest guys out there.
They were so nice that they got in our face. They were so nice that they gave a fist but to my wife.
Golf needs to limit tee times to 2 people. This will mean cutting down your 2 a day executive golf so that others can also play.

Sumter County now has the highest death rate per capita in the state. It is not going to get better without STAYING HOME.

[kansasr]

simple question----WHY?

Don't answer with an opinion, or your paranoia, or that you know somebody who got the virus.

Give me definitive scientifically validated published cases of COVID-19 transmission on a golf course where people are practicing social distancing. Anything short of that is just babbling.

Because, as per the OP, people aren't always complying with social distancing.

[golfing eagles]

Sumter County now has the highest death rate per capita in the state. It is not going to get better without STAYING HOME.

Statistically, you cannot extrapolate 5 deaths in a county with our population to mean anything

[golfing eagles]

Because, as per the OP, people aren't always complying with social distancing.

And your solution to that is?

[dewilson58]

Actually no, no, and yes, I shared a cart with my doctor---but he's been a lot closer than a golf cart




Ur not the same eagles, who admitted in another thread that the eagles' post fudged the true in order to make a point, are u????


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[golfing eagles]

Ur not the same eagles, who admitted in another thread that the eagles' post fudged the true in order to make a point, are u????


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no idea what you're talking about:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Villageswimmer]

In other words, your objection isn't to the policy and procedures that are keeping the courses open, it is with those who are violating it. Take your argument up with THEM.

And lets not hear the inane argument that the only way to stop them is to shut it all down for the zillionth time---that is akin to shutting down all interstate highways because some drivers are going 100+

So much defensiveness. So much anger. So little tolerance to opinions of others. Take a deep breath. Namaste.

[golfing eagles]

So much defensiveness. So much anger. So little tolerance to opinions of others. Take a deep breath. Namaste.

Not defensive at all, not even angry. I'll tolerate any opinion that has a valid basis. I'm not a big fan of I think...…, I believe...…, I heard...…, They should have...…, nor do I care for all of the political BS.

If people can't maintain social distancing on the golf course, by all means shut it down. But don't limit to golf. Cyclists still ride in packs, cough, breathe and talk 6 feet upwind of others---shut down all cycling. Walkers still staying within 6 feet of each other----shut down all walking. Golf carts pass each other within 6 feet on the MMPs---lock all carts in the garage. And like I already said----shut down all highways because some people speed, not to mention grocery stores, mail stations and gas stations. And even then, you still can't obtain zero risk.

[Marvic 1]

Here's my beef! The Post Office should stop accepting and delivering JUNK-MAIL!!! :MOJE_whot:

[JGVillages]

simple question----WHY?

Don't answer with an opinion, or your paranoia, or that you know somebody who got the virus.

Give me definitive scientifically validated published cases of COVID-19 transmission on a golf course where people are practicing social distancing. Anything short of that is just babbling.
Have yo ever seen players spit on the grass or green while playing? Maintenance workers? I certainly have. Do you know all the players in front of you? Can’t give you actual person who got it this way but just thinking about my ball rolling 75 times (I am a low handicapper) is too scary. Live to play another day.

[photo1902]

Have yo ever seen players spit on the grass or green while playing? Maintenance workers? I certainly have. Do you know all the players in front of you? Can’t give you actual person who got it this way but just thinking about my ball rolling 75 times (I am a low handicapper) is too scary. Live to play another day.

Not to mention subjecting the entire support staff to contamination, who must go to work each and every day to keep the courses up and running. Not to mention the new changes pertaining to trail fees, which requires numerous employees to handle the onslaught of processing payments and answering questions.

[Villageswimmer]

Shut all activities down then were all =
Then there's no need to watch over the fence see who's doing what


Yes. Stay home. Gov. Cuomo is going to impose a $1000 fine on those who violate stay at home rules. The death toll jumped dramatically in NY today.

[kansasr]

Statistically, you cannot extrapolate 5 deaths in a county with our population to mean anything

How about 2 more today, 7 total

[tophcfa]

All these posts and no one answered the OP’s original question. Easy answer, Championship Golf!

[golfing eagles]

How about 2 more today, 7 total

And you think that statistically changes anything????

[dewilson58]

And you think that statistically changes anything????




Yes, slightly. Now the stat is: 8% of cases die.

[golfing eagles]

Yes, slightly. Now the stat is: 8% of cases die.

Way too small a sampling size----just the fact that Sumter County is 8% and the national average is like 2% makes it an outlier.

Only 1001 people tested in Sumter with 84 positive and 900 negative

So the death rate is 8% of 8% of those tested, = 0.64%. PLUS, many of those tested received the test because of symptoms, so the cohort was pre-selected. The rest were asymptomatic and part of the UF study.

[dewilson58]

Way too small a sampling size----just the fact that Sumter County is 8% and the national average is like 2% makes it an outlier.

Only 1001 people tested in Sumter with 84 positive and 900 negative

So the death rate is 8% of 8% of those tested, = 0.64%. PLUS, many of those tested received the test because of symptoms, so the cohort was pre-selected. The rest were asymptomatic and part of the UF study.




Actually not too small. Of the cases in Sumter, 8% die. Not looking at tested or total population. I'm not comparing to national.

[kansasr]

And you think that statistically changes anything????

No, but it does mean 7 of our neighbors are no longer with us and there will be more unless YOU STAY HOME.

[UpNorth]

All these posts and no one answered the OP’s original question. Easy answer, Championship Golf!

Yes. Outside The Villages. Playing solo. At half the price. Did it the other day. Best round of the year, by far.

[golfing eagles]

Actually not too small. Of the cases in Sumter, 8% die. Not looking at tested or total population. I'm not comparing to national.

Forced to disagree
7 deaths out of 90 positive tests out of 1013 tested.

That's 7.8% mortality among 90 positive tests that were for the most part pre-selected for symptoms.
I'd have to run a detailed statistical analysis to get a P value, but eyeballing it I doubt it is <0.05
There are a few on TOTV well versed in these types of statistics, would like to know what they think.

[dewilson58]

Forced to disagree
7 deaths out of 90 positive tests out of 1013 tested.

That's 7.8% mortality among 90 positive tests that were for the most part pre-selected for symptoms.
I'd have to run a detailed statistical analysis to get a P value, but eyeballing it I doubt it is <0.05
There are a few on TOTV well versed in these types of statistics, would like to know what they think.


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Forced to laugh. It's like a doctor doing 90 surgeries because of pre-selected symptoms. If seven die, find another doctor.



And there is no P in Sumter.

[golfing eagles]

:1rotfl:

Forced to laugh. It's like a doctor doing 90 surgeries because of pre-selected symptoms. If seven die, find another doctor.



And there is no P in Sumter.


Bad analogy. More like picking his worst 90 surgeries out of thousands and 7 died

Didn't see a "P" in any of my Sumters. Did you faux pas????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[dewilson58]

Bad analogy. More like picking his worst 90 surgeries out of thousands and 7 died

Didn't see a "P" in any of my Sumters. Did you faux pas????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


:blahblahblah:

Wrong again.

[biker1]

You have me interested. What, precisely, is the hypothesis?

Forced to disagree
7 deaths out of 90 positive tests out of 1013 tested.

That's 7.8% mortality among 90 positive tests that were for the most part pre-selected for symptoms.
I'd have to run a detailed statistical analysis to get a P value, but eyeballing it I doubt it is <0.05
There are a few on TOTV well versed in these types of statistics, would like to know what they think.

[golfing eagles]

You have me interested. What is the hypothesis?

I didn't think 7 deaths, 90 positive tests, and 1013 people tested was a large enough sample to draw the conclusion that a Sumter County resident has a 7.8% chance of dying if he/she contracts the virus, especially since it's a one off from the national and state averages. Somebody disagreed. He's one of the good guys, just wrong this time.

[biker1]

We are looking at an average age of 65+ for Sumter County (80% of Sumter County lives in The Villages). The sample size is small but we do know that age is a factor. If you are tested positive, I suspect you will have issues. I think the national and state averages are misleading unless age is factored in. I don't believe numbers from other countries are useful since their counting of deaths from coronavirus is different than ours. However, I suspect you are correct in your hypothesis.


I didn't think 7 deaths, 90 positive tests, and 1013 people tested was a large enough sample to draw the conclusion that a Sumter County resident has a 7.8% chance of dying if he/she contracts the virus, especially since it's a one off from the national and state averages. Somebody disagreed. He's one of the good guys, just wrong this time.