Interesting read on Chinese virus & flu

[Koapaka]

Suspected SARS virus and flu germs found in luggage: FBI report describes China'''s '''biosecurity risk''' (https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html)

[NotGolfer]

THEN there's the issue of that Harvard professor who was arrested a couple of weeks ago for the same reason. Also two Chinese nationals who were here working with him. We've not heard anything since that story broke. I think there's more then meets the eye with this virus. Bio-terrorism would be so easy to pull off. I've wondered if this most recent one isn't a test-run of some sort. Call me suspicious, but it certainly spread very quickly with somewhat the same results world-wide.

[gadaboutgal]

It's interesting that right under that YAHOO article there is another one:"Trump adviser warned of millions of virus deaths in January. Trump says he saw the memo only this week."
Hmm is there some other aspect of this "conspiracy" that we need to examine? Why wasn't there someone to make sure that our president was made aware of these memos?

[Number 10 GI]

I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet, thankfully. Determined die for the cause nut cases could allow themselves to be infected with a virus that makes coronavirus look like a mild cold and then get into our country spreading it around infecting hundreds of people. Those hundreds will infect thousands. Bio warfare is nearly impossible to defend against.

[manaboutown]

Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation | CBC News (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567)

Questions Surround Canadian Shipment of Deadly Viruses to China | The Scientist Magazine(R) (https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/questions-surround-canadian-shipment-of-deadly-viruses-to-china-66254)

[B767drvr]

The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=3bXWGxhd7ic&feature=emb_logo)

[JimJohnson]

Fake News!

[Two Bills]

Very intersting and even credible.
Problem is I have read/heard so much BS. I wouldn't know the truth now, even if it came gift wrapped, with bells on it.
I'll just wait for the Hollywood version with Brad Pitt and the Jollie lady, for the 'True' story!

[B767drvr]

Very intersting and even credible.
Problem is I have read/heard so much BS. I wouldn't know the truth now, even if it came gift wrapped, with bells on it.
I'll just wait for the Hollywood version with Brad Pitt and the Jollie lady, for the 'True' story!

Really enjoy your humor Two Bills!

Well... consider my previous post "gift wrapped" (I wouldn't have sent it otherwise). Here's a headline Front Page Fox article referencing what I sent earlier. MY source says it's basically the working theory for several of the alphabet agencies... no, NOT the DMV! :)

Sources believe coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab as part of China'''s efforts to compete with US | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources)

[Koapaka]

There is none so blind as those that will not see.

To be sure, becoming complacent today will make you a statistic tomorrow. Food for thought: "peak" only means aprox half the deaths are still coming, just not spiking as sharply as before and overwhelming the medical community at the same time. It will be a slow decline in deaths as those infected either get better or worse....

And to head off the question that is certain to be raised, I quote this article from Lakeland FL because they seem to have the most current "ever fluid" PEAK information for the entire state of FL.

Coronavirus: Florida's deadliest day for COVID-19 moves later, model predicts - News - The Ledger - Lakeland, FL (https://www.theledger.com/news/20200414/coronavirus-floridas-deadliest-day-for-covid-19-moves-later-model-predicts)

[Bay Kid]

I have never seen so many experts. Not sure if I believe any of them. They all seem to have agendas.

[Koapaka]

If China acted earlier, coronavirus cases could have been cut by as much as 95 percent: former FDA chief | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/science/if-china-had-acted-earlier-coronavirus-cases-could-have-been-cut-by-as-much-as-95-percent-study-says)

[GoodLife]

There is none so blind as those that will not see.

To be sure, becoming complacent today will make you a statistic tomorrow. Food for thought: "peak" only means aprox half the deaths are still coming, just not spiking as sharply as before and overwhelming the medical community at the same time. It will be a slow decline in deaths as those infected either get better or worse....

And to head off the question that is certain to be raised, I quote this article from Lakeland FL because they seem to have the most current "ever fluid" PEAK information for the entire state of FL.

Coronavirus: Florida's deadliest day for COVID-19 moves later, model predicts - News - The Ledger - Lakeland, FL (https://www.theledger.com/news/20200414/coronavirus-floridas-deadliest-day-for-covid-19-moves-later-model-predicts)

That IHME model has been wrong so many times it reminds me of Climate science.

[graciegirl]

I have never seen so many experts. Not sure if I believe any of them. They all seem to have agendas.

I agree. Until and unless this passes and we can spend the time we need to either accept or disprove all of these theories, I am skeptical.

Take a look at a couple of pictures from the 1918-1919 Spanish Influenza Pandemic. Do you think a lot of theories and blame happened then??? I wonder at how people handle fear and overwhelming and new experiences.

[graciegirl]

There is none so blind as those that will not see.

To be sure, becoming complacent today will make you a statistic tomorrow. Food for thought: "peak" only means aprox half the deaths are still coming, just not spiking as sharply as before and overwhelming the medical community at the same time. It will be a slow decline in deaths as those infected either get better or worse....

And to head off the question that is certain to be raised, I quote this article from Lakeland FL because they seem to have the most current "ever fluid" PEAK information for the entire state of FL.

Coronavirus: Florida's deadliest day for COVID-19 moves later, model predicts - News - The Ledger - Lakeland, FL (https://www.theledger.com/news/20200414/coronavirus-floridas-deadliest-day-for-covid-19-moves-later-model-predicts)

I don't think believing conspiracy theories has anything to do with being complacent in our own protection and quarantine and our protection of others. We know the older population is at higher risk. We know that it spreads quickly and that it can be carried by people with no symptoms. We know that being careless with going out can cause others to suffer and be at higher risk. MOST of us know it is far more deadly than the Swine Flu and MOST of us know this is a new virus that no one has had before.

[graciegirl]

Very intersting and even credible.
Problem is I have read/heard so much BS. I wouldn't know the truth now, even if it came gift wrapped, with bells on it.
I'll just wait for the Hollywood version with Brad Pitt and the Jollie lady, for the 'True' story!

I agree. Sure would like you to run for National office, but you probably can't, can you, because you are an "import"?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are one smart lime....I mean BRIT. ;)

[Koapaka]

That IHME model has been wrong so many times it reminds me of Climate science.

Agreed! The point is too many sheeple think that the peak will mean we are safe from this virus and become more complacent and want to get "back to life". It ONLY means that we should have less new reported cases daily vs the climb. In our age group (and with the medical conditions that come with aging) contracting this on the up side or down side of the "peak" is meaningless. There will still be new cases, and still be those that succumb to it.

[Koapaka]

Birx, like Trump, suggests China or WHO warned late about human-to-human transmission, says actions need to be examined '''once this is over''' (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/birx-trump-suggests-china-warned-human-human-transmission-164300166.html)