Is anyone else surprised

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

[dewilson58]

The mitigators are killing the virus and are saving lives of smart & stupid people.


The socializers are feeding the virus and extending the life of the virus.

[photo1902]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

[billethkid]

I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

Not too early to discuss results to date. The early indicators, so far would suggest most residents are complying with the CDC and state guidelines/orders...

Those who think it is no big deal or we are over reacting? Let's all hope and pray for them, friends, family and us they are not asymptomatic carriers.
As the saying goes....there is no fixin' stupid!!!

[vintageogauge]

The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.

[Villageswimmer]

The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.


Are there really churches in TV holding services in person? All I’ve heard of are online or drive in to watch a large screen.
Which churches are doing this?

[manaboutown]

The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.

[Doro22]

The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.
Interesting concept. Perhaps that person should get tested to see if she has developed antibodies to the virus.

[manaboutown]

Interesting concept. Perhaps that person should get tested to see if she has developed antibodies to the virus.

Next time I speak with her I will suggest she get tested and give plasma if she had it. She is 70 years old and was very very sick for weeks. At the time she thought it was the worst case of flu she ever had experienced.

[Bjeanj]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

Yes.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.

[Healthiest]

Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

[golfing eagles]

Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

Too bad there isn't any "blood of Jesus" around when you need it. Let's hope these parishioners have hoarded a supply.

[manaboutown]

Here is a published lists of cruises on which people may have been exposed to the virus. If any Villagers were on board they could potentially be carriers.

Coronavirus: Cruise passengers on these ships may have been exposed (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/04/07/coronavirus-cruise-passengers-these-ships-may-have-been-exposed/2961313001/?fbclid=IwAR0H9q4kdAaY68WtB3WobFCeSDEHfa-YOch_ABXuPzy-8JR74249HOJjBIw)

[npwalters]

Not surprised. We are in a demographic that is much more likely to die if the virus is contracted but our lifestyle in an environment that make close contact less likely then say NYC should limit the exposure. The rate of spread is actually very small if you do the math -especially here. This recognized the steps taken to close the squares, etc.

[npwalters]

Please ignore the typos, didn't edit the above before hitting send

[jebartle]

The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.


Fingers crossed, oh heck, my eyes are crossed also, whatever it takes to see an end to this..?.

[coffeebean]

I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

Agree. It is just the beginning for us here in The Villages.

[coffeebean]

The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.

Those church goers will then go to the grocery stores. My grocery list is so long but I'm staying out of the stores. It's people like the church goers that are instilling the fear in me.

[coffeebean]

Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

Seriously?????

[jet10s]

the next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.
which churches

[jet10s]

those church goers will then go to the grocery stores. My grocery list is so long but i'm staying out of the stores. It's people like the church goers that are instilling the fear in me.
don't go out -- you won't get it

[jet10s]

yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' there was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.
but not here in the villages

[asianthree]

Seriously?????

Actually know a doctor that truly believes faith will keep him safe. Sadly his wife is stage 4, and so is he. So off to service they go.

[coffeebean]

Actually know a doctor that truly believes faith will keep him safe. Sadly his wife is stage 4, and so is he. So off to service they go.

You would think an intelligent person such as a doctor would know better.

[KyWoman]

I truly believe that I had it in December after flying north for Christmas. I was very sick with congested chest, very sore throat and pain with breathing, fatigue and fever. Also lost my sense of taste and smell. I isolated myself in my son's lower level and wore a mask,( brought with us because of a new baby), and thankfully no one else got sick. I had the flu shot and never had anything like this in my life.

[JudyLife]

Cannot believe how stupid people can be! We are here in London England & have been in lockdown officially just over 2 weeks, although hubby & I started a week earlier. One of us goes for groceries as infrequently as possible & a brief walk, avoiding any contact, every few days. Is it boring? At times but better than lying in a coffin. Please stay home people! Wear a mask when you go out & follow the official advice. Pay attention to Dr Fauci!! As to attending a church service you need to have your head examined!!

[Koapaka]

Lets have the SAME question asked in 14-18 days and see if your assessment is the same.

[Rwirish]

Not surprised at all. Villagers have done an excellent job of social distancing. Sure there are violators who just don’t get it. You can’t correct stupid.

[Skunky1]

How many people that live in the villages have died from the coronavirus virus? I understand there’s more than what we have been told.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I built a simple viral spread model for Massachusetts, 4 weeks ago, and the difference with and without social distancing is immense. The model also predicted the same time frame for max as the current thinking with social distance. The virus is very much an indoor urban disease, where close interactions and enclosed spaces induce the spread. The villages being very outdoorsy is contributing to the reduced spread. The virus is killed by ultraviolet light, by medical sources, and the outside world invaded for winter months just prior to widespread infections. So I actually believe the villages is an ideal location for avoiding the disease, with outside activity and social distancing. The only downside of the villages is the increased behavioral bias of attribution which comes with age.

sportsguy's opinion and beliefs.

[golfing eagles]

How many people that live in the villages have died from the coronavirus virus? I understand there’s more than what we have been told.

According to the FDOH, 7 deaths in Sumter, 2 in Lake, and 2 in Marion, not all from inside the Villagers. I'm sure they'll be developer bashers that think there are more bodies in the Morse's garage.

[Challenger]

According to the FDOH, 7 deaths in Sumter, 2 in Lake, and 2 in Marion, not all from inside the Villagers. I'm sure they'll be developer bashers that think there are more bodies in the Morse's garage.

Not so ! They are under the Morse bridge.:coolsmiley:

[arbajeda]

As of 6:30 last night (4/7) there were 87 cases in Sumter county.

Central Florida coronavirus cases county-by-county - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-health-coronavirus-central-florida-cases-by-county-20200319-wnvk2peqefgtffkj3tjlunn4bu-story.html)

A topic of conversation at the pool used to be how many cruises people had been on. Yet even though the Polo Grounds has been testing for several days now, there hasn't been a huge uptick in infections. There was a post yesterday citing a story from the Tampa Bay Times on how The Villages was going to be decimated because of the age of the populace. Nothing specific, just speculation based on information of susceptible population based on age. I guess we are better at this social distancing thing than other places; it also helps that we have fewer gathering places since the squares have been closed. And there are those who will continue to ignore recommendations that will help avoid infection. Well, like Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid."

[Woolyg]

We all hope that we have a low infection rate.. Does anyone think that 1K tests in Sumpter county is enough to make any judgement with the population of Sumpter? The biggest issue is still the availability of tests. The drive through testing is meant to go everyday but it has to shut down every week after 3 or 4 days of testing because they run out of tests. Every time testing is running the slots fill up in 2 hours.. So there are people with symptoms that just don't get tested until they have more tests. So our infection rate is most likely higher than it appears.. As the availability of tests increases the cases will increase also. Tampa drive through testing at Raymond James and also the Orlando drive through testing sites have also been limited in the people they can test.. All due to lack of tests.. There was a report on Orlando Fox station that they are setting up 3 new drive through testing sites (not here) with the hope of some of them doing 1k tests a day. One specifically in Melbourne. They will be using the new test that gives results in 15 min. Once we can test more people we will get a more realistic infection rate. The link below shows Florida cases and more. Just click on the testing tab and then the county and you can see how many were tested and results. This is updates twice daily.

Florida Official Results (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

[fishon]

The virus seems to spread quickly in areas where there are people living in high density and poverty. NYC, LA, China, Italy and Iran are among the worst.
Sure there are wealthy people in those places but a great number of those places have huge areas of squalor.

The Villages is an upscale environment not at all like the above mentioned.

Let's don't forget that NYC is a hive of scum and villainy.

[Dendrn]

Just a reminder the first case detected in US was Jan 20, on Feb 26, President Trump announced 15 cases and no deaths, that would go away magically. THAT WAS 37 DAYS IN THE US. On the other hand the tri county area of Lake/Sumter/Marion had 1st case March 16. Today, ONLY 23 DAYS LATER we have 271 cases with 9 deaths right here in TV and many more in tri county area. WOW, big difference. I would say we are spreading and FAST.

[Lynnesail]

Are there statistics somewhere that keep track of COVID for just the people in The Villages?

[Leadbone1]

We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed. In the end more people will die of the flu this year then will die of COVID-19. I’m not saying you shouldn’t take it serious but it’s not turning out to be what we were initially told. Everyone’s free to believe what they need to believe

[Tracy Turnbull]

Just a reminder the first case detected in US was Jan 20, on Feb 26, President Trump announced 15 cases and no deaths, that would go away magically. THAT WAS 37 DAYS IN THE US. On the other hand the tri county area of Lake/Sumter/Marion had 1st case March 16. Today, ONLY 23 DAYS LATER we have 271 cases with 9 deaths right here in TV and many more in tri county area. WOW, big difference. I would say we are spreading and FAST.

Where did you get these numbers? I haven't heard that there have been 9 deaths in The Villages...please share your source.

[Rowenfl]

How many people in the area have been tested? If not tested we cannot get an accurate number.

[Boston1945]

Let's do some numbers here.
Total population in Sumter County 120,999
Total tested 1,001
Lake County population 335,362
Total tested 2,191

The numbers tell the story.

[WesMan]

Too bad there isn't any "blood of Jesus" around when you need it. Let's hope these parishioners have hoarded a supply.


Your post is terrible and should be taken down!!!!!

[dcartman]

Read a report yesterday of counties infected which also brook it down into cities and towns. Wildwood had 5 deaths the villages had 17 there we’re many others. I can’t see most of my doctors in person as a lot are only do FaceTime appointments only. My primary doctors assistant told me they aren’t seeing patients at this time because they had 8 patients test positive for coronavirus and that’s why they are only doing FaceTime. I am sure the numbers are much higher than the villages want you to know even though they have taken precautions to protect us. Pretend you are safe and go about your business as usual, it’s like a casino, maybe you will be the odds maybe you won’t.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed.

The more the virus is overhyped, the more lives will be saved, the more the virus is ignored, the more deaths will happen.

Managing large diverse populations with information alone is very difficult.

There are videos from china of welding doors to apartments shut, which culture would you prefer? forcibly restrained or by individual choice?

sportsguy

[HelenLCSW]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself

people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.
It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

I think it probably is here —statistics have been released by county, not by name of Village. I know of 3 people in serious condition (one died, one in coma) — none in my village.

I think the major hit has just not come to us yet —let’s hope we are still doing this will over the next two weeks!

[Jamello]

Can you share the source that listed 27 deaths in The Villages?

[blueash]

IMO we will not get badly hit by Covid. Those who have extrapolated based on the rate of increase early in the pandemic are failing to take heed of the fact that those exponential increases occurred when there were open stores and not social isolation.

With those interventions it is hoped and expected that there will be a dramatic decrease in disease. The cases we are hearing reported now are people who were infected up to 4 weeks ago [2 weeks incubation, 1 week before significant symptoms, 1 week for testing to be done and entered into the database] Some are shorter, but the picture you are seeing as the numbers go up all represent pre-shutdown spread. The early cases were mostly travel related, then known contact related, now most are unknown or community spread.

Do a good job and we will avoid much of the community spread that would have happened without intervention. All you nay-sayers will point to the numbers in a few months and say "see, it was all for nothing" and you'll be wrong.

[Travelhunter]

As of 6:30 last night (4/7) there were 87 cases in Sumter county.

Central Florida coronavirus cases county-by-county - Orlando Sentinel (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-health-coronavirus-central-florida-cases-by-county-20200319-wnvk2peqefgtffkj3tjlunn4bu-story.html)

A topic of conversation at the pool used to be how many cruises people had been on. Yet even though the Polo Grounds has been testing for several days now, there hasn't been a huge uptick in infections. There was a post yesterday citing a story from the Tampa Bay Times on how The Villages was going to be decimated because of the age of the populace. Nothing specific, just speculation based on information of susceptible population based on age. I guess we are better at this social distancing thing than other places; it also helps that we have fewer gathering places since the squares have been closed. And there are those who will continue to ignore recommendations that will help avoid infection. Well, like Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid."

Less cases than I thought. It goes up daily. There seems to be a high percentage of deaths. I hope it slows down

[Lynnesail]

Are there any statistics particular to The Villages?

[Joanne and Mike]

You can see results by county (Sumter 87) and by zip code 32162 34 cases, 32163 11 cases. Results are updated twice a day
Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

[dougjb]

The real test for exposure...in my opinion....is the ratio of the number tested to the number infected. All we are hearing is the ratio of the number infected to the number who died. With a population of twenty some odd million in the state of Florida and the number of tests conducted around 50,000 (and even if this ever changing number reached to 100,000), it would seem to me that we simply do not know how many individuals are testing positive. Case in point, I had a neighbor return from a family affair via plane in early March. Both became very sick and the ambulance was called for at least two times. As of yesterday, the man who was sick as a dog and lost 20 pounds, had not been tested. The woman who was also sick as a dog and was tested....but, the results have not been forthcoming as of yet.

So, I think the only thing we can conclude in The Villages is that we may...or we may not have a massive infection rate. For me, that is unsatisfactory. I will keep up my social distancing and no matter how near and dear my friends are here, they will, for the time being be my far and dear friends!

[BoatRatKat]

Are there statistics somewhere that keep track of COVID for just the people in The Villages?

Yes, as of last night there were 47 in the Sumter portion of TV and 7 in Lake. None in the Marion portion.

[BoatRatKat]

You can see results by county (Sumter 87) and by zip code 32162 34 cases, 32163 11 cases. Results are updated twice a day
Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

Use that same sight and dig deeper, it takes a little patience but you can find out exactly how many for just The Villages. The info is also broken down by towns.

[Annie66]

The mitigators are killing the virus and are saving lives of smart & stupid people.


The socializers are feeding the virus and extending the life of the virus.

I couldn't agree with you more.

[mkarba]

There haven’t been enough people tested in The Villages. Hopefully Florida will get enough test kits that we could be heavily tested. Out of everyone I know only one person has been tested. My fear is once April Stay At Home lifted everyone will rush to pools and restaurants and sunset views——this virus wont be gone. Just under better control.
My neighborhood in Summerhill has been unbelievably diligent at social distance I really appreciate them all.

[pkfavreau2]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

I think TV closing things down made a difference, starting with the recreation center classes. While some people feel deprived I feel great-full, the number of cases are low, I saw an article that some people feel they should get reimbursed for their amenity fees or have them reduced by the Morris family. We looked outside The Villages at quite a few developments in a few states and here, and all of the amenity fees were almost the same or more, and did not offer anywhere near as much free activities or at a minimal cost. I feel blessed to be here. Stay healthy.

[lclear]

The Villages is about 2 weeks behind reaching the apex, I believe. Don't let your guard down. Be safe.

[Swoop]

The whole idea of social distancing is not to “make the virus go away” it’s simply to slow the spread, flatten the curve. The theory is that if everyone doesn’t get sick at once, healthcare won’t be overrun. Based on this model, people will continue to get the virus, but at a slower rate. What we don’t know yet is how many people have had the virus since 80% of those who get the virus have have little or no symptoms. Once we test a large portion of the population for both the virus and the antibodies, will we truly know the mortality rate. To date, the majority of people tested have had severe symptoms. Even then the mortality hasn’t been as high as originally thought. Especially since anyone who dies who tested positive for the virus is coded as a Coronavirus death. In fact they don’t even have to test positive. If the patient showed signs that are consistent with the Coronavirus, they are coded as virus deaths. It’s good to be safe, wash your hands, but you take the same precautions during flu season. If you are in the “at risk” category take extra precautions. But the idea that if everyone just locked themselves in their homes for two weeks, or if everyone wore masks, the virus will go away, is simply not true.

[SunnyHester]

Just a reminder the first case detected in US was Jan 20, on Feb 26, President Trump announced 15 cases and no deaths, that would go away magically. THAT WAS 37 DAYS IN THE US. On the other hand the tri county area of Lake/Sumter/Marion had 1st case March 16. Today, ONLY 23 DAYS LATER we have 271 cases with 9 deaths right here in TV and many more in tri county area. WOW, big difference. I would say we are spreading and FAST.


Would you please cite the source of your stats? Thanks.

[Woolyg]

As stated the issue is testing.. The drive through testing opened back up yesterday. It was shut down since last week due to no tests kits available. Just received a notice from the daily sun that all slots for tomorrows testing are taken and that they will resume testing when TEST KITS are available. Again, they are out of test kits after just 3 days of testing this week.

Until we get the needed amount of test kits the numbers published will continue to be inaccurate at best.. You can't tell how many are infected if you can't even test the symptomatic people.

[Nick B]

The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.
Good thing they didn't get Covid 19

[BlackhawksFan]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

Last I knew THE UF Health survey being done at the Polo Grounds was running about 1% of those tested.

[kendi]

Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

That was is Tampa

[rmd2]

The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.

Are they still testing at the Polo grounds? and are they allowing people with no symptoms to be tested?

[Girlcopper]

The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.
Well, shame on the people who are still going. We arent toddlers where we have to be told where we can go. Common sense.

[davem4616]

disappointing to see all the grandkids that have come to visit Grandma in TV lately

it's the folks from outside the bubble that have nothing else to do and don't know enough to stay away that will be TV's downfall

[BevSparks]

The reason for quarantine is to 1. stop the spread and 2. hospitals and staff can not handle hundreds of people sick at the same time. Follow the guidelines and think about your neighbor when and if you are outside your home. This too shall pass.

[Dickfars]

I live in Maryland and have a house in TV. I live in Carroll County - pop 168,000
So far 19 dead, 162 positive in the community with 1 death. The problem lies with the Nursing Homes. Two NH have been involved. One has a population of 95 with 81 positive patients and 31 positive staff members. There have been 17 deaths at this facility. A second Home has 1 dead, 12 positive patients and 2 staff positive. Outside of the NH facilities there are 54 positives with 1 death. The breakdown of positives are 35 women and 19 men. By age 13 20-29, 6 30-39, 11 40-49, 16 50-59, 6 60-69, 1 70-79, 1 80-89. It will probably get worse before it gets better. We have been on stay at home for 2 weeks or so. BE SAFE - I wear a mask when leaving home for groceries or scripts.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

By now all churches have been on lock down and have been for weeks. Most if not all are live streaming their services. Check it out

[blueash]

Please ignore the typos, didn't edit the above before hitting send

You can edit your entry after you have posted by using the edit button. Go ahead and correct any typos and add or delete information. The system will ask you why you are editing but you don't have to enter a reason. Then hit save.

[Byte1]

Consider the fact that we do not have children playing with other children and going to school, bringing the diseases home with them. This being a senior community, we do not have a lot of workers going to and returning from daily jobs, also transmitting germs with them. If you think about it, we do not get the common illnesses here that many suffer over the winter months up North. Even though we have activities where we socialize with each other, we do not have the day to day close proximity working families have up North. Plus, some illnesses do not survive in warmer weather. But, I believe the primary reason we are not inundated with illnesses is because we don't have the young folks here that bring sickness home from school with them, as they do in other areas. That's just my opinion, and I am sure there are plenty of flaws to my reasoning. But, it is a thought. Remember when coworkers would come to work with the flu because they did not want to use their sick leave? Remember when parents would send sick children to school?

[manaboutown]

Good thing they didn't get Covid 19

Do you mean COVID-19?

As I mentioned many Chinese nationals reside in and visit that area of the state of Washington. I don't know if any had been or were visiting from Wuhan before or during the time she was there. The illness she experienced was like many who have been through a bout of the virus have described. So it could have been the Wuhan or Chinese virus, COVID-19.

[JillClancy]

Wait for it. It will come. I can’t believe the churches are holding services. I’m back in NY now and it spreads like wildfire. We were seeing a few cases here and there then all of a sudden it was everywhere. I got it and not sure how or when but I’ve been sick for 3 weeks. Had all the symptoms even loss of tastes and smell. Not back yet. Please take this seriously because it isn’t a joke.

[rockandroller]

We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed. In the end more people will die of the flu this year then will die of COVID-19. I’m not saying you shouldn’t take it serious but it’s not turning out to be what we were initially told. Everyone’s free to believe what they need to believe

Folks, use your favorite site to search on

"latest news about covid 19 in sweden"

It's interesting how this democratic government has reacted to COVID-19 and the ensuing results.

[OhioBuckeye]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.
Yes, you're right it is spreading pretty fast but if you listen to the news they told you it would & bad spots would move all the time for a couple of weeks or more. I'm surprise nobody has mentioned the stock market. Our stock market has dropped 1,000 points for at least 3 weeks now, some rich person, maybe in another country is buying it at a very low price, you know maybe someone might take over a lot of companies here in the U.S. So yes it doesn't surprise me that TV is in a bad way now but some other states that were having people drop like flies, it's a 100% better. So yes, the govt. told us it's going to get worse before it gets better. Just do what they're telling us to do, then you can say you did everything they told you to do. Maybe it's getting worse in other places because these people are running around like they're calling this virus a buff. Have & good day, & God Bless everyone!

[manaboutown]

Folks, use your favorite site to search on

"latest news about covid 19 in sweden"

It's interesting how this democratic government has reacted to COVID-19 and the ensuing results.

I just checked for current deaths in these three Nordic countries and this is how they stack up. I do not know if they have been hit with the virus concurrently or what their populations and policies are.

Sweden 687

Denmark 218

Norway 93

[EdFNJ]

The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.


According to today's "Happy News" paper the Polo Grounds testing facility will be shut down ON THURSDAY "until they get more testing supplies." So much for test distribution.

[EdFNJ]

Do you mean COVID-19?

As I mentioned many Chinese nationals reside in and visit that area of the state of Washington. I don't know if any had been or were visiting from Wuhan before or during the time she was there. -----<clip>------ So it could have been the Wuhan or Chinese virus, COVID-19.
You just won't let that go will you? Even the big guy in the north has stopped saying that I would think it would have tricked down here by now.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We all hope that we have a low infection rate.. Does anyone think that 1K tests in Sumpter county is enough to make any judgement with the population of Sumpter? The biggest issue is still the availability of tests. The drive through testing is meant to go everyday but it has to shut down every week after 3 or 4 days of testing because they run out of tests. Every time testing is running the slots fill up in 2 hours.. So there are people with symptoms that just don't get tested until they have more tests. So our infection rate is most likely higher than it appears.. As the availability of tests increases the cases will increase also. Tampa drive through testing at Raymond James and also the Orlando drive through testing sites have also been limited in the people they can test.. All due to lack of tests.. There was a report on Orlando Fox station that they are setting up 3 new drive through testing sites (not here) with the hope of some of them doing 1k tests a day. One specifically in Melbourne. They will be using the new test that gives results in 15 min. Once we can test more people we will get a more realistic infection rate. The link below shows Florida cases and more. Just click on the testing tab and then the county and you can see how many were tested and results. This is updates twice daily.

Florida Official Results (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

Testing is only useful to health care professionals in determining where the virus is. Only the positive results are useful. What we don't know is how many people who have tested negative have picked up the virus since being tested.

I believe that the only way to live now is to assume that everyone that you see has it.

[rbrooks817]

That is a despicable comment.

[manaboutown]

Testing is only useful to health care professionals in determining where the virus is. Only the positive results are useful. What we don't know is how many people who have tested negative have picked up the virus since being tested.

I believe that the only way to live now is to assume that everyone that you see has it.

This seems kinda scary to me, testing positive after one recovers. 51 recovered coronavirus patients test positive again in South Korea (https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/51-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-again-in-south-korea/?fbclid=IwAR3NHIFl_Y4PcYM1zuRUrOD1IRzsnarh2zw74PyT OJE85uG8-gHUrmuX3xI)

And then this back where it all started. Wuhan lifts coronavirus lockdown, still struggles to recover from pandemic | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/world/wuhan-lifts-coronavirus-lockdown-struggles-recover-pandemic?fbclid=IwAR1RkkZtah6mMh25I86BamopaqdWCBEL HJTpBJqxKruPhEl_x8UBuRvCP5w)

[rodhos]

that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

According to the Florida Dept. of Health web site there are 45 confirmed KNOWN cases in the two zip codes making up the majority of The Villages (32162 & 32163). That's half of the 90 cases in Sumter County.

[golfing eagles]

According to the Florida Dept. of Health web site there are 45 confirmed KNOWN cases in the two zip codes making up the majority of The Villages (32162 & 32163). That's half of the 90 cases in Sumter County.

and half the population

[Shadow8IA]

It'll be interesting to see when they test for antibodies if anyone actually had it before the first reported case in the U.S. on Jan 31. Since they tracked it so well I don't see how anyone had it before then but it's hard to know. I know flu type B was really nasty this year.



The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.

[coffeebean]

That is a despicable comment.

Please supply a quote. I don't know which comment you are referring to. Thanks.

[zendog3]

coved19 is way overblown. Not a big deal at all. Just ask Boris Johnson. I am sure he will tell you as soon as he gets out of intensive care, which he probably will do as he is much younger than you.

If we don't come up with a vaccine soon, about 50% of people will get it sooner or later. If you are one of that 50% , and you are my age, you will have between 15% to 20% chance of dying. Whether or not it is a big deal depends on how lucky you think you are. BTW social distancing and hand washing are will not stop anyone from getting the disease, it will "flatten the curve" or slow the spread in hope that they will find a vaccine before you contact the virus, or that there will be a ventilator for you in the hospital when you get there.

[golfing eagles]

coved19 is way overblown. Not a big deal at all. Just ask Boris Johnson. I am sure he will tell you as soon as he gets out of intensive care, which he probably will do as he is much younger than you.

If we don't come up with a vaccine soon, about 50% of people will get it sooner or later. If you are one of that 50% , and you are my age, you will have between 15% to 20% chance of dying. Whether or not it is a big deal depends on how lucky you think you are. BTW social distancing and hand washing are will not stop anyone from getting the disease, it will "flatten the curve" or slow the spread in hope that they will find a vaccine before you contact the virus, or that there will be a ventilator for you in the hospital when you get there.

a) very optimistic, thank you
b) your numbers are way overblown
c) If those measures didn't stop anyone from getting the virus, they wouldn't flatten the curve at all----think about it

[blueash]

BTW social distancing and hand washing are will not stop anyone from getting the disease, it will "flatten the curve" or slow the spread

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of flatten the curve. While the basic model of flattening has as its goal lowering the peak and does not anticipate fewer final cases, models of social distancing accomplish two goals. The goals of social distancing (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30190-0/fulltext) are to both have fewer people ill at the same time AND have fewer people ultimately become infected. The simplest explanation is if you take a single individual. If she never comes into contact with an adequate exposure, she never gets sick. The way to have her not be exposed involves keeping her away from known and unknown spreaders.

Hand washing obviously reduces the total ill people. It is no different for catching Covid from what your hands touched or catching Salmonella from raw chicken. Hand washing results in decreased transfer of germs from hand to nose, eyes, and mouth.

[bpascani]

We are pretty new here, but, what I see is, that many people take the health of all seriously (while some roll their eyes, at least or a while). I'm proud of these folks that take this seriously, without panic, just doing what they feel will help themselves, and hopefully others, safe. The voice of example can be loud!

[Villageswimmer]

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of flatten the curve. While the basic model of flattening has as its goal lowering the peak and does not anticipate fewer final cases, models of social distancing accomplish two goals. The goals of social distancing (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30190-0/fulltext) are to both have fewer people ill at the same time AND have fewer people ultimately become infected. The simplest explanation is if you take a single individual. If she never comes into contact with an adequate exposure, she never gets sick. The way to have her not be exposed involves keeping her away from known and unknown spreaders.

Hand washing obviously reduces the total ill people. It is no different for catching Covid from what your hands touched or catching Salmonella from raw chicken. Hand washing results in decreased transfer of germs from hand to nose, eyes, and mouth.

Thanks for your clear explanation.

[Carlsondm]

We are only at the beginning of the curve. It will rise sharply soon as the virus colonies and deaths surge. The surge is what we hopefully are controlling. Right now the prediction is that we may return to normal life sometime in June, but only if we follow our plan together and don't allow the virus to take control again. With five nurses in the family, I am reminded frequently to stay home, avoid crowds, and just before the surge to wear gloves and a mask (@20-50%) when going out. We know little about the virus transmission at this point. It could be airborne at it's peak. Who wants to be a guinea pig.

[yankygrl]

We are only at the beginning of the curve. It will rise sharply soon as the virus colonies and deaths surge. The surge is what we hopefully are controlling. Right now the prediction is that we may return to normal life sometime in June, but only if we follow our plan together and don't allow the virus to take control again. With five nurses in the family, I am reminded frequently to stay home, avoid crowds, and just before the surge to wear gloves and a mask (@20-50%) when going out. We know little about the virus transmission at this point. It could be airborne at it's peak. Who wants to be a guinea pig.
We do know the method of transmission - it is droplet spread. How far those droplets go when you speak or cough is probably the most indeterminent part of it. We also know, for the most part, how long the virus "lives" on certain objects.

[Travelhunter]

We are only at the beginning of the curve. It will rise sharply soon as the virus colonies and deaths surge. The surge is what we hopefully are controlling. Right now the prediction is that we may return to normal life sometime in June, but only if we follow our plan together and don't allow the virus to take control again. With five nurses in the family, I am reminded frequently to stay home, avoid crowds, and just before the surge to wear gloves and a mask (@20-50%) when going out. We know little about the virus transmission at this point. It could be airborne at it's peak. Who wants to be a guinea pig.
The scary and frustrating part is we keep getting different direction
Don’t wear masks
Do wear masks

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The scary and frustrating part is we keep getting different direction
Don’t wear masks
Do wear masks

I think that we are all, including the experts, are in uncharted waters here and they are learning new things all the time.

I recall hearing that the droplets were too large or heavy to remain in the air on their own. Now some are saying that might not be true.

I think that the experts are giving us the best information that they have available at the time.

No one ever said that you could wear a face mask if you wanted.

[striveforhealth]

The "Wuhan Virus"??
:ohdear:

The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.

[B767drvr]

The "Wuhan Virus"??
:ohdear:


The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=3bXWGxhd7ic&feature=emb_logo)

[Kerry Azz]

Keep drinking the koolaid,

[Kerry Azz]

The more the virus is overhyped, the more lives will be saved, the more the virus is ignored, the more deaths will happen.

Managing large diverse populations with information alone is very difficult.

There are videos from china of welding doors to apartments shut, which culture would you prefer? forcibly restrained or by individual choice?

sportsguy
Overhyped? Hopefully your a former coach, people that believe this isn’t serious are an extreme danger to our safety as well as to their own. Your door should be welded shut,:MOJE_whot:

[manaboutown]

The "Wuhan Virus"??
:ohdear:

Yes: Wuhan virus, Chinese virus, China virus, ChiCom virus, COVID-19, different names, same virus. Call it what you like.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Overhyped? Hopefully your a former coach, people that believe this isn’t serious are an extreme danger to our safety as well as to their own. Your door should be welded shut,:MOJE_whot:

The point is the non linear assymetrical effect of information presentation and information effects. . . ie, Heisenberg effect, meaning the more information presented, the more the outcome is changed. Your decoding of the word "overhyped" is not the same as my intention of concept. I did not intend for you to interpret that the current environment was overhyped, but I did intend for the interpretation to be on a relative basis versus ignoring the virus as the other extreme, not the more absolute judgemental interpretation which some may interpret.

Its tough to know which interpretation people will take, relative or absolute, which is a personality trait, from a post without knowing who will read and anyone can read. . .

sportsguy

[600th Photo Sq]

The point is the non linear assymetrical effect of information presentation and information effects. . . ie, Heisenberg effect, meaning the more information presented, the more the outcome is changed. Your decoding of the word "overhyped" is not the same as my intention of concept. I did not intend for you to interpret that the current environment was overhyped, but I did intend for the interpretation to be on a relative basis versus ignoring the virus as the other extreme, not the more absolute judgemental interpretation which some may interpret.

Its tough to know which interpretation people will take, relative or absolute, which is a personality trait, from a post without knowing who will read and anyone can read. . .

sportsguy

After reading your post I decided to set my alarm clock for ( 5:30 pm ) that is my " Happy Hour " . And relax with the following.

Michelob Ultra, ( Ice Cold) , Popcorn, Peanuts, Pretzels.

Put my feet up and watch " Silence of the Lambs ", and " The Wild Bunch ".

Thanks for your post ! :doggie: :popcorn:

[JoMar]

We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed. In the end more people will die of the flu this year then will die of COVID-19. I’m not saying you shouldn’t take it serious but it’s not turning out to be what we were initially told. Everyone’s free to believe what they need to believe

Old argument that has been disproved for months but as you said, everyone's free to believe what they need to believe. COVID 19 is not the flu, so the comparison has no valididty. With COVID 19 you must have faith that your immune system is strong enough to fight it since that is the only treatment. There is no vaccine to help your immune system so roll the dice. Just please respect those that don't believe as you do and keep your distance.

[600th Photo Sq]

After reading your post I decided to set my alarm clock for ( 5:30 pm ) that is my " Happy Hour " . And relax with the following.

Michelob Ultra, ( Ice Cold) , Popcorn, Peanuts, Pretzels.

Put my feet up and watch " Silence of the Lambs ", and " The Wild Bunch ".

Thanks for your post ! :doggie: :popcorn:

Well just a follow up :

Enjoyed my movies and snacks . I'm off to bed .

Looking forward to your next post ( hic up )