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Matthew Wag
04-10-2020, 01:06 PM
I move in May. My lot is very deep but not wide. I want to line both sides of my house in the back to the wall. I have a pool and want privacy. 5' bushes 9not sure what they are called ,but I see them everywhere. What do I need to do first? Contact villages for approval? It would be in the 5' area between properties. Any suggestions welcolm and includes where to buy those bushes. Thanks matt

retiredguy123
04-10-2020, 01:09 PM
You need ARC approval. Go to districtgov.org.

tophcfa
04-10-2020, 01:11 PM
Podacarpus make a great privacy hedge.

CWGUY
04-10-2020, 01:23 PM
Start here - Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

:ho:

villagetinker
04-10-2020, 01:26 PM
We tried to work with the neighbors on a common hedge in the area between the houses, ARC would NOT allow. Could not even change grass for mulch, basically, nothing could be done in this area.

Topspinmo
04-10-2020, 01:43 PM
I move in May. My lot is very deep but not wide. I want to line both sides of my house in the back to the wall. I have a pool and want privacy. 5' bushes 9not sure what they are called ,but I see them everywhere. What do I need to do first? Contact villages for approval? It would be in the 5' area between properties. Any suggestions welcolm and includes where to buy those bushes. Thanks matt

I suspect that the easement between house’s. If so probably not allowed, I guessing you’re pool inside bird cage? Why can’t you plant bushes right off the bird cage on you’re own property? As for side usually not much room except up close to bird cage. Second choice would be line bird cage with vision blocking material?

skip0358
04-10-2020, 01:53 PM
Don’t plant or sign anything until you get approval
from ARC. If you do something without approval you could very well regret it. Also don’t take the word of the contractor planting the bushes he wants your job & money.

starflyte1
04-10-2020, 02:02 PM
No help with hedge, but instead of regular screen, I put white screen in the bottom panels.

Some privacy plants grow well in tubs on inside of pool cage.

JimJohnson
04-10-2020, 02:50 PM
Podacarpus.

John_W
04-10-2020, 04:16 PM
I didn't plant these holly bushes, they were the landscaping that came with our CYV nine years ago, however they were about 2' tall then. Now, I keep them at 7' because that's the height of the wall behind them. I have to trim twice a year, they grow great. The one negative, holly berries are poisonous to dogs, the squirrels like them and it doesn't seem to hurt them.

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Dlbonivich
04-11-2020, 06:06 AM
Viburnum hedge grows fast and thick no berries. Not sure about approval

davem4616
04-11-2020, 06:32 AM
be very careful what you wish for....everything grows 12 months long down here in Florida

if you're looking for something to do and you like yard work in the heat, go a head and plant bushes outside, they'll grow quickly even in the poor sandy soil in TV

give serious consideration to the vision blocking screen panels and place a few large pots inside with large leaf plants....

nobody's really gonna be spying on you anyway, and if you do like to swim in the buff...do it in the evening

vagent711
04-11-2020, 07:12 AM
I move in May. My lot is very deep but not wide. I want to line both sides of my house in the back to the wall. I have a pool and want privacy. 5' bushes 9not sure what they are called ,but I see them everywhere. What do I need to do first? Contact villages for approval? It would be in the 5' area between properties. Any suggestions welcolm and includes where to buy those bushes. Thanks matt

You can put the podecarpus around the birdcage for privacy with ARC approval

Paporter
04-11-2020, 07:18 AM
Contact Sabrina’s Landscaping for an consultation and estimate for hedges. If you hire them, they will submit the request to ARC for you. They been landscaping in TV’s for well over 20 years and will know what is acceptable to ARC.

willbush
04-11-2020, 07:52 AM
I move in May. My lot is very deep but not wide. I want to line both sides of my house in the back to the wall. I have a pool and want privacy. 5' bushes 9not sure what they are called ,but I see them everywhere. What do I need to do first? Contact villages for approval? It would be in the 5' area between properties. Any suggestions welcolm and includes where to buy those bushes. Thanks matt
Podocarpus bushes provide great privacy using little space;I planted both sides of our lania for privacy;they look great and are easy to maintain

Matthew Wag
04-11-2020, 07:53 AM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.

caseycasebeer
04-11-2020, 07:57 AM
If you’re looking for privacy, check out panels made by Parasoleil.com. (Say: “Para-sol-lay” 😁)
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rustyp
04-11-2020, 08:10 AM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.


Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/committees/arc.aspx)

CFrance
04-11-2020, 08:16 AM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.


Look up the story of the guy with the little white cross. You will not win against ARC. You signed an agreement when you bought your house. ARC is never sorry.

photo1902
04-11-2020, 08:20 AM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.

Congratulations! You win "Funniest Post of the Day"!

CWGUY
04-11-2020, 08:23 AM
Look up the story of the guy with the little white cross. You will not win against ARC. You signed an agreement when you bought your house. ARC is never sorry.

:) Everyone signs....... the problem is few read it. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MIskra
04-11-2020, 08:32 AM
When we moved in, we worked with our neighbor on some landscaping in our backyard (that cannot be seen from the street), but it was denied by the ARC. Apparently, at least in some neighborhoods, they do not allow bushes that create the look of a fence. That was not our intention and they helped us to make modifications to our plan that was approved on the second submission (and honestly after taking their suggestions it was a much prettier design than our original proposal). If the bushes you are proposing are planted around your birdcage (and not along the property line, like a fence), they will probably approve. Also, a variety of different plantings instead of a line of bushes like a hedge seems to be more desirable. If they don't approve your design, they are very nice, and they will help you achieve what you need within your village's guidelines. I did not find them confrontational, but then again, we were not dead set on a specific design, and we were more than willing to take their advice. In fact, their advice was much appreciated.

blueash
04-11-2020, 08:32 AM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.

How much you pay for a house has no bearing on the rules here. You can't make it happen "quick"ly. They have a schedule. They follow the schedule. Rich people don't get special treatment by the ARC. If you don't like the rules please reconsider coming here. Maybe your erstwhile neighbors would get a nice person in that home.

Marathon Man
04-11-2020, 12:48 PM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.

The price of the house does not play into the validity of a contract signed by the owner. Big words. Good luck with that.

Villageswimmer
04-11-2020, 12:59 PM
The price of the house does not play into the validity of a contract signed by the owner. Big words. Good luck with that.

Agree. If you want to do your own thing, that’s great, but you may have chosen the wrong place.

If you’re just pulling our collective legs, I’d recommend podocarpus. They generally have a more narrow growth habit, which is, I think, what you’re looking for. Another good screening shrub is viburnum which is very attractive but has a wider growth habit. I’d avoid ligustrum and probably bottlebrush for this application.

Good luck in your new home. BTW, a $500k home here is not all that—not that it would change the rules if it were.

Number 10 GI
04-11-2020, 01:10 PM
You don't have enough money to fight this in court. Kinda like how well do you think you would do in a wrestling match with an 800 lb gorilla.

DianeM
04-11-2020, 01:23 PM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.

You signed a covenant when you purchased your home that you would abide by the rules of the community. You would not win a case against the ARC for not following those rules. There is no such thing as “quick”. The ARC meets on a scheduled basis and they are not meeting right now due to the shutdown. $500K does not impress anyone except yourself.

Matthew Wag
04-11-2020, 02:37 PM
Interesting. Well what ever you all say? I think I 'll handle things myself, No need to be insulting, but I will remember those who are. Must be a lot of certain people who know everything. OK I know what I signed and I also know we have rights, it is not a dictatorship. Must read carefully what it says. And take into account certain specifications. But never mind apparently we have much smarter people than me out there? LOL

Matthew Wag
04-11-2020, 02:48 PM
Do you know the number or where they are located?

dkaufnelson
04-11-2020, 02:50 PM
podocarpus bushes grow quickly, get tall but stays fairly narrow so good to make privacy buffer hedge. also doesn't shed leaves. only problem is that we are supposed to stay 3' inside our property line so not sure if you'd have 3 ' inside property line if narrow between you and neighbors. you could plant right up next to your screening but will block all breezes as well,,however gives great year round privacy. probably have to do a screening buffer or potted plants that will block view from inside or plant vines outside on edge of screening. if you buy flat trellis or that 4'x8' white vinyl criss cross design panels that people use to block view under decks you can erect it outside screen and then grow vines on it. i put a trellis outside against my screened lanai and planted a vine there. It spread and I then attached pieces of wire from the roof down to the trellis which gave more area for the vines to grow on the wires. If the area you would want these vines is sunny, I'd be happy to give you some passion vine, but it dies back during winter.gorgeous deep purple flowers from mid summer to winter but then nothing , so no privacy in winter. another better option is honeysuckle which stays green all year and smells great when in bloom. this gets really thick so great privacy, but all vines need constant pruning or they will go crazy and grow where you don't want them. honeysuckle gets very thick so needs trimming to prevent it becoming too bushy. it can be a bush hedge and will also climb if you want that. vines allow more breezes to get through than podocarpus hedges but podocarpus less maintenance than constantly trimming vines. podocarpus hedges more defined shape vs vines are wild looking. must makes sure whatever you choose does well in the amount of sun you'll have there as some require full 6 hrs or more of sun, some require part shade or just morning sun etc. passion vine needs full sun, podocarpus seems good in sun and part shade, honeysuckle seems to do well in sun and partial shade. confederate jasmine vine smells incredible in spring and stays green all year, but not thick enough for privacy barrier. if you go with honeysuckle make sure it's the regular bush variety not the red one which is too lanky and more vine like and not thick enough for privacy. I think podocarpus probably least maintenance and more manicured look but honeysuckle bush also makes hedge and can climb if your train it on wires, trellis etc and will give you pretty flowers and fantastic smell from flowers. Good Luck!

DianeM
04-11-2020, 02:54 PM
Interesting. Well what ever you all say? I think I 'll handle things myself, No need to be insulting, but I will remember those who are. Must be a lot of certain people who know everything. OK I know what I signed and I also know we have rights, it is not a dictatorship. Must read carefully what it says. And take into account certain specifications. But never mind apparently we have much smarter people than me out there? LOL

Not smarter. Just lived here longer. I’m sure your new neighbors will find you delightful.

bpascani
04-11-2020, 03:40 PM
We just had some landscaping done at our house with an awesome landscaping company. First of all, the rule is that your "beds" have to begin (i.e. the back side) a minimum of 3ft from your property. Sounds like you bed for that would be a least 2-3 wide. Our people drew of a very detailed design and presented it for us. They are experienced, and know what will pass and what won't, so you don't have to keep going back over and over. If you are just doing 2 "rows of bushes", you may be able to figure it out by yourself . We did Podocarpus on one side and Viburnum on the other side. At this point, I like the Podocarpus better, but, I think at some point the Virburnum leaves change color a bit, and gets a pretty white flower. If your is narrow though, you may prefer using the same thing on both sides. I say definitely get the board's (or whatever you call it) approval. Enjoy

bpascani
04-11-2020, 03:46 PM
I think that is because you would have been planting in the neutral ground. The rule says you have to be at least 3ft inside your property line, so there is no way you can share a hedge. We just had landscaping done, that's why I know this. We interviewed 4 different companies, and all of them knew that as the rule. Our plan was approved 1st time out. I'm sure that's why yours wasn't approved. We have Podocarpus too (among other things). I love them!

Marathon Man
04-11-2020, 03:48 PM
Interesting. Well what ever you all say? I think I 'll handle things myself, No need to be insulting, but I will remember those who are. Must be a lot of certain people who know everything. OK I know what I signed and I also know we have rights, it is not a dictatorship. Must read carefully what it says. And take into account certain specifications. But never mind apparently we have much smarter people than me out there? LOL

What was that? The sound of many eyes rolling.

Villageswimmer
04-11-2020, 03:54 PM
Interesting. Well what ever you all say? I think I 'll handle things myself, No need to be insulting, but I will remember those who are. Must be a lot of certain people who know everything. OK I know what I signed and I also know we have rights, it is not a dictatorship. Must read carefully what it says. And take into account certain specifications. But never mind apparently we have much smarter people than me out there? LOL

Usually best to read BEFORE you sign.
You’re welcome.

Marathon Man
04-12-2020, 07:01 AM
Always entertaining to read what people come up with when they don't want to follow the terms of a contract that they signed.

rustyp
04-12-2020, 07:08 AM
Interesting. Well what ever you all say? I think I 'll handle things myself, No need to be insulting, but I will remember those who are. Must be a lot of certain people who know everything. OK I know what I signed and I also know we have rights, it is not a dictatorship. Must read carefully what it says. And take into account certain specifications. But never mind apparently we have much smarter people than me out there? LOL

Those two little old lady trolls with the clipboard know the rules inside and out.

tophcfa
04-12-2020, 08:41 AM
Just a word of advice, be sure to leave adequate room to be able to walk between your birdcage and the hedges you plant when they become fully mature. You will need to have room to prune them and keep them from growing into your birdcage screen.

Nancy@Pinellas
04-12-2020, 10:21 PM
Your landscaper should know. They’ll also get approval, if needed. You might be talking about Hawthorn bushes.

Marathon Man
04-13-2020, 07:44 AM
Your landscaper should know. They’ll also get approval, if needed. You might be talking about Hawthorn bushes.

Not all contracters will take this on. Even if they say they do. Always make sure to sign the application for approval, and then obtain a copy of the approval documents. Do this before work is started.

Challenger
04-13-2020, 08:41 AM
Thanks for all the input. Key find someone to get it approved quick. I do not want to go to war with ARC, but they will be sorry if they screw with me. Not when you pay 500k for a house they better give flexibility within reason or be tied up in court for ever.

Haven't even moved here yet but talking about fighting local restrictions and covenants . ???? 125,000 people here ahead of you and there is little evidence that the local rules for the protection of property values have been overturned by the courts.

Maybe a Troll ??