Let’s do some good !!!

[72lions]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

[DianeM]

1. You have no idea who needs or does not need the stimulus check
2. The people you mention will also be receiving the same stimulus check
3. Owners of businesses can apply for loans, which will not need to be paid back, to pay the salaries of their employees
4. We all can tip generously if we do a pick up order for food
5. Doling out money to the masses kind of smacks of the liege Lord tossing crumbs to the peons. Talk about insulting.
Villagers are despised as it is. Let’s not make it worse.
6. The Morse family are not our parents. They owe us nothing.

[Gpsma]

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing

[DianeM]

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing


Why should they? They are not our parents.

[Number 10 GI]

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing

You have absolutely no idea what the Morse family does with their money and neither do I, nor do I care, but the difference between you and me is that I'm not letting envy and jealousy eat me up over how much money they have. I grew up poor, like a bowl of rice or a bowl of corn meal mush for supper poor. I'm not rich now but I have enough money to live comfortably in The Villages. I got here by hard work and determination to do better by my family than my parents were able to. I received no hand outs from rich people and never sought money from them. Poor people just like rich people are in the situation they live in because of decisions they made in their life. Some chose wisely, some chose poorly.

[CWGUY]

You have absolutely no idea what the Morse family does with their money and neither do I, nor do I care, but the difference between you and me is that I'm not letting envy and jealousy eat me up over how much money they have. I grew up poor, like a bowl of rice or a bowl of corn meal mush for supper poor. I'm not rich now but I have enough money to live comfortably in The Villages. I got here by hard work and determination to do better by my family than my parents were able to. I received no hand outs from rich people and never sought money from them. Poor people just like rich people are in the situation they live in because of decisions they made in their life. Some chose wisely, some chose poorly.

:ho: Thank you. :thumbup:

[CWGUY]

1. You have no idea who needs or does not need the stimulus check
2. The people you mention will also be receiving the same stimulus check
3. Owners of businesses can apply for loans, which will not need to be paid back, to pay the salaries of their employees
4. We all can tip generously if we do a pick up order for food
5. Doling out money to the masses kind of smacks of the liege Lord tossing crumbs to the peons. Talk about insulting.
Villagers are despised as it is. Let’s not make it worse.
6. The Morse family are not our parents. They owe us nothing.

:shrug: So it's safe to say you are a "No" ? ;)

[graciegirl]

You have absolutely no idea what the Morse family does with their money and neither do I, nor do I care, but the difference between you and me is that I'm not letting envy and jealousy eat me up over how much money they have. I grew up poor, like a bowl of rice or a bowl of corn meal mush for supper poor. I'm not rich now but I have enough money to live comfortably in The Villages. I got here by hard work and determination to do better by my family than my parents were able to. I received no hand outs from rich people and never sought money from them. Poor people just like rich people are in the situation they live in because of decisions they made in their life. Some chose wisely, some chose poorly.


Thank you.

And I think the OP needs to think that a terrible economic situation is brewing and churning and as I said before it will probably get worse. It is even possible that people's company pensions may disappear. I think it wise in times of uncertainty to save your money and keep your money. Those needing it may be your own kin.

[saratogaman]

Poor people are poor because of decisions they've made? More likely they had the misfortune to be born in the wrong zip code and had poor schools. Florida school funding is among the lowest in the nation. Charter schools are a mixed bag for quality, not monitored for quality & safety and are not available to all kids. Oh, yes, what about discrimination against non-whites? Wasn't it Christ who said we should take care of the least of our brethren? Let loose with a few bucks for those who can most benefit.

[Number 10 GI]

Poor people are poor because of decisions they've made? More likely they had the misfortune to be born in the wrong zip code and had poor schools. Florida school funding is among the lowest in the nation. Charter schools are a mixed bag for quality, not monitored for quality & safety and are not available to all kids. Oh, yes, what about discrimination against non-whites? Wasn't it Christ who said we should take care of the least of our brethren? Let loose with a few bucks for those who can most benefit.

You offer nothing but excuses. That is the crutch of lazy and incompetent people, it is never their fault always someone else has done them wrong. If you will do some research and reading you will find many poor white and minority individuals that overcame their obstacles and succeeded very well in their lives.

I'll relate a story a Hispanic friend of ours told me about her and her husband. Both of them grew up in a barrio in California to unmarried mothers living on welfare. Her mother encouraged her to drop out of high school, get pregnant and go on welfare so she could get a place to live and not have to work. It was a great life, sleep in and get paid. In school teachers didn't care if they turned in school papers and still gave them a passing grade so they could be moved through and out of the system. These are schools in the utopia of California where everything is so wonderful and equal. She and her husband individually made the decision to do as well in school as they could and graduate. The neighborhood they lived in was gang territory and it was hard to avoid getting in the wrong crowd. When she and her husband married they had a hard time with good paying jobs so he joined the army for an opportunity to better their lives. He has done well professionally in the military and living well. I met so many individuals in the army with similar stories who did what was necessary to better their lives. It's not impossible, not even difficult to change your life. What do people expect when they graduate from high school and not able to read or do math at the 6th grade level? It's all personal choice, nobody forced them to make the decisions they did.

[Bogie Shooter]

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing

Do you receive
The daily Sun? Do you read it?
I am not going thru the effort to look back thru this weeks Sun to find their comments...you can.

[Number 10 GI]

Poor people are poor because of decisions they've made? More likely they had the misfortune to be born in the wrong zip code and had poor schools. Florida school funding is among the lowest in the nation. Charter schools are a mixed bag for quality, not monitored for quality & safety and are not available to all kids. Oh, yes, what about discrimination against non-whites? Wasn't it Christ who said we should take care of the least of our brethren? Let loose with a few bucks for those who can most benefit.

Christ also said that, paraphrasing here, if a man doesn't work he shouldn't expect to eat. Christ never advocated rewarding sloth and poor decisions. I have no problems with helping people who physically can't work or don't have the mental faculties to work.

[DianeM]

You have absolutely no idea what the Morse family does with their money and neither do I, nor do I care, but the difference between you and me is that I'm not letting envy and jealousy eat me up over how much money they have. I grew up poor, like a bowl of rice or a bowl of corn meal mush for supper poor. I'm not rich now but I have enough money to live comfortably in The Villages. I got here by hard work and determination to do better by my family than my parents were able to. I received no hand outs from rich people and never sought money from them. Poor people just like rich people are in the situation they live in because of decisions they made in their life. Some chose wisely, some chose poorly.

Perfectly well said.

[rustyp]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

How do you propose we select the officers of this foundation ?

[Villageswimmer]

OP, what is VillagesCFoundation?

[DianeM]

OP, what is VillagesCFoundation?

Something he wants to set up.

[72lions]

How do you propose we select the officers of this foundation ?

Thank you for the question. At the moment, I am just trying to gauge the interest in trying to do something for this community. Unfortunately, this thread has already deteriorated to one about issues of the poor and the Morse family.

Should there be a collective support to start a community foundation here, I would establish the corporation through the proper legal channels, and invite anyone and everyone who wishes to participate to a forum. Hopefully we will be able to gather without the use of electronica media at that point in time. Obviously the initial officers and required board would be pulled from those who have expressed a desire to work on behalf of this nonprofit.

[JSR22]

I am interested. I would donate.

[Villageswimmer]

Thank you for the question. At the moment, I am just trying to gauge the interest in trying to do something for this community. Unfortunately, this thread has already deteriorated to one about issues of the poor and the Morse family.

Should there be a collective support to start a community foundation here, I would establish the corporation through the proper legal channels, and invite anyone and everyone who wishes to participate to a forum. Hopefully we will be able to gather without the use of electronica media at that point in time. Obviously the initial officers and required board would be pulled from those who have expressed a desire to work on behalf of this nonprofit.

Are you talking about a nonprofit or a not-for-profit structure? What is your background that qualifies you to do this?

[72lions]

OP, what is VillagesCFoundation?

Community foundations are grantmaking public charities that are dedicated to improving the lives of people in a defined local geographic area. They bring together the financial resources of individuals, families, and businesses to support effective nonprofits in their communities. Frequently, communities will use this as a means of distributing someone’s extraordinary wealth that has been left with the foundation. I just saw this as an opportunity to secure a sizable amount of money through a small contribution by many that could then be used to benefit others within our lives. It’s soul purpose would not need to address the current situation and if enough money was raise, he could provide benefits to many for years.

[Villageswimmer]

I am interested. I would donate.

Really. Have you researched this on Charity Navigator?

[72lions]

Thank you.

And I think the OP needs to think that a terrible economic situation is brewing and churning and as I said before it will probably get worse. It is even possible that people's company pensions may disappear. I think it wise in times of uncertainty to save your money and keep your money. Those needing it may be your own kin.

Thank you for your thoughts. I agree that this current situation is far from over and may well get worse economically. That said, here in the villages where the majority of homes are purchased without a mortgage, we are many if not most of our neighbors have been blessed with military pensions and corporate payments that are not likely to go away anytime soon, and win a contribution of $1200, or less, could be made when these funds were unexpected, seems to me to be a viable way to raise a sizable sum of money with which we could all do good and feel good about. As to the discussion of the Morse family, my point was simply that it would be a vehicle for them, and perhaps other very wealthy people, to provide more sizable amounts to help this effort.

[Bogie Shooter]

I think if the Morse family wanted to do something like that.....they would.

[Villageswimmer]

I think if the Morse family wanted to do something like that.....they would.


Maybe they are. They don’t report to us.

[Nucky]

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[DianeM]

You have not taken into consideration that if people in TV are that well off they will not receive stimulus checks. Not fond of people who reach into my pocket. Hard NO for me.

[rustyp]

Thank you for the question. At the moment, I am just trying to gauge the interest in trying to do something for this community. Unfortunately, this thread has already deteriorated to one about issues of the poor and the Morse family.

Should there be a collective support to start a community foundation here, I would establish the corporation through the proper legal channels, and invite anyone and everyone who wishes to participate to a forum. Hopefully we will be able to gather without the use of electronica media at that point in time. Obviously the initial officers and required board would be pulled from those who have expressed a desire to work on behalf of this nonprofit.

1 - why don't we leave the Morse's out of this conversation ? If they wish to contribute after it is established they will.
2. - how do I get in on the ground floor. I want to be an officer but I want to be part of the establishment of this foundation from the ground up every step of the way.

[72lions]

The Foundation, if established would be a Florida corporation organized under IRS Code 501(C)(3) which requires detailed records, a Board and Officer structure and annual federal tax filing. I have extensive experience in running and serving on non profit Boards, but my personal interest at present is gauging if there is sufficient support at this important time when initial funding support could be a true community effort. Fe3l free to send questions or an expression of support to VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com.

[Debfrommaine]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

Don't forget your hospital workers. Our nurses and docs do a great job but remember the EVS people who clean the rooms, security guards who keep you safe, Materials Management who see that everything is well stocked, cafeteria workers too. There are a lot of people who could use your kind donations.

[72lions]

Agreed. Email me at VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com. (No caps required)

[72lions]

Shoot an email to VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com. Thanks

[72lions]

Thank you.

And I think the OP needs to think that a terrible economic situation is brewing and churning and as I said before it will probably get worse. It is even possible that people's company pensions may disappear. I think it wise in times of uncertainty to save your money and keep your money. Those needing it may be your own kin.

You have not taken into consideration that if people in TV are that well off they will not receive stimulus checks. Not fond of people who reach into my pocket. Hard NO for me.

Anyone wit gross income less than 75k gets a check regardless if assets. No one wants to get into your pocket. Think church, Salvation Army, etc.

[72lions]

Please email VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com. Thank you

[Number 10 GI]

If you are wanting to help people you don't need any village organization to do it for you. There are all kinds of charity organizations in the towns around the villages that will gladly take any donation you wish to make. Take your pick.

[DianeM]

Anyone wit gross income less than 75k gets a check regardless if assets. No one wants to get into your pocket. Think church, Salvation Army, etc.

They get my charity. Not someone from out of the woodwork with their hand out supposedly for people who definitely will get a check. We have no clue who you even are. Nope. Not a chance. I repeat - hard NO.

[skip0358]

Perfectly well said.

Couldn't agree more!

[retiredguy123]

I would just make two suggestions. One, the number of officers should be very limited, and the officers or anyone who does work for the 501c3, including lawyers, accountants, etc. cannot receive any compensation. And, two, the money should be gifts or grants, no loans. I think that would improve participation.

[Number 10 GI]

What will be the requirements for someone to receive monetary aid? Who is going to establish these requirements? How are you going to vet the applicants to insure they aren't running a scam? Who is goin going to vet the people running the organization? Who is going to pay for all the filings for this organization? What will it cost to do the filing? Is there going to be a public record for everyone to review on who got money and how much? How long is it going to take before the organization is legal and begin operation? Way too many questions that need answering.

[papasetti82]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

There is already an organization that takes our money and redistributes,it's called the Government.Welfare Cadillac - Guy Drake (1970) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq-hx73or30)

[rustyp]

Actually the more I contemplate this why do we need a middle man - I'm feeling good about my own plan of doing things like the next haircut I get I will pay double or triple since a I missed one. I have no problem in being a secret santa. I have no problem giving to organizations already in existence like community chest. Plus your answer to my question was how do I get to be on the board did not get answered duck duck goose. You have already put yourself in charge. Didn't even ask me my credentials. I'm out. If I were the Morse's I would be very silent at this time. How do you know they are not secret santas?

[72lions]

Actually the more I contemplate this why do we need a middle man - I'm feeling good about my own plan of doing things like the next haircut I get I will pay double or triple since a I missed one. I have no problem in being a secret santa. I have no problem giving to organizations already in existence like community chest. Plus your answer to my question was how do I get to be on the board did not get answered duck duck goose. You have already put yourself in charge. Didn't even ask me my credentials. I'm out. If I were the Morse's I would be very silent at this time. How do you know they are not secret santas?

Sorry, I didn’t know I was required to be at your attention. Look, I’m just posing a simple suggestion. There are hundreds of Community Foundations throughout the country that do great work. Yes there are many charities as well. Setting this up is simple. Distribution is hard. No, typically those participating receive no compensation. I’m not looking for a penny. Hell, I don’t care if I’m involved going forward. The point was many could sacrifice very little for the greater good. Many have posted they don’t need the relatively small cash distribution. Ok. Instead of spending it on entertainment, or giving it back (lol), offer it to a local foundation run by people who give a damn.

[72lions]

What will be the requirements for someone to receive monetary aid? Who is going to establish these requirements? How are you going to vet the applicants to insure they aren't running a scam? Who is goin going to vet the people running the organization? Who is going to pay for all the filings for this organization? What will it cost to do the filing? Is there going to be a public record for everyone to review on who got money and how much? How long is it going to take before the organization is legal and begin operation? Way too many questions that need answering.

Great questions. Every for profit corporate foundation must be transparent through annual report and required IRS filings which are made public. Establishing the organization is pretty simple, probably no more than a few weeks. That’s the easy part.

[72lions]

If you are wanting to help people you don't need any village organization to do it for you. There are all kinds of charity organizations in the towns around the villages that will gladly take any donation you wish to make. Take your pick.

Sure, but are they specifically concerned about the service workers who until now drove 20+ miles to serve our every need until now. Restaurants are running on skeleton staff. Most are unemployed. Just yesterday, I needed to be in Office Depot. Their staff now numbers 3.

[DianeM]

Sure, but are they specifically concerned about the service workers who until now drove 20+ miles to serve our every need until now. Restaurants are running on skeleton staff. Most are unemployed. Just yesterday, I needed to be in Office Depot. Their staff now numbers 3.

Restaurants will hire staff back when this is over as will Office Depot.

In the interim, those laid off employees will also receive stimulus checks as well as having the ability to file for unemployment which has been raised quite a bit. In addition, businesses are able to obtain business loans to pay their employees which will be forgiven if they do, in fact, pay their staff.

My check, and yes I will receive one, is going to the vet techs at my veterinarian and if permitted, small gift cards to those at Publix that helped keep us fed. I don’t need anyone to decide where my money goes. I’m smart enough to decide that on my own and know who I want to help.

[queasy27]

Thanks to 72lions for the kind impulse. My preference has also been to support local charities as well as those with reasonable administrative costs.

However with such low interest rates now and no investment plans for the foundation's monies, it seems the funds might come in and be quickly disbursed, end of story. It would require a significant effort to review applications and have board meetings to review and vet each application, especially if the grants are smaller amounts.

While I admire your generous spirit and desire to help, I think for me the answer will still be to support charities I trust that already have their internal infrastructures in place and with established track records of service. However I'm very open to reconsidering down the line if this becomes a reality.

[Cheapbas]

Yes, I thought this exact same thing weeks ago. A fund created to assist the people that serve us who were reliant on wages or tips to survive. Sounds like a logistical nightmare though. Maybe just over-tip when things come back

[graciegirl]

Sorry, I didn’t know I was required to be at your attention. Look, I’m just posing a simple suggestion. There are hundreds of Community Foundations throughout the country that do great work. Yes there are many charities as well. Setting this up is simple. Distribution is hard. No, typically those participating receive no compensation. I’m not looking for a penny. Hell, I don’t care if I’m involved going forward. The point was many could sacrifice very little for the greater good. Many have posted they don’t need the relatively small cash distribution. Ok. Instead of spending it on entertainment, or giving it back (lol), offer it to a local foundation run by people who give a damn.

I don't like Go Fund Me's. I think they often do not reach the intended recipients and I think people can financially support those directly who need.

[wamley]

Bravo

[doyle31]

I agree with you. I didn’t know we were all going to get $1200. You have a good idea. How to carry it forward is beyond me. Good luck

[Singerlady]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

I posted something similar a week or so ago. I said IF you do not need the money, CONSIDER handing out larger than normal tips (or tips where you don’t normally hand them out) to our grocery workers, hairdresser, servers, manicurists, cashiers, etc. Either way works!

[oneclickplus]

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing

#10) You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Let's stop discussing what the Morse's are (or are not) doing.

[MandoMan]

I think this is a lovely idea. However, I doubt that many residents of The Villages will be getting the full $1,200. I know that I will be getting only $100.

[jrm4081@juno.com]

Dale,
Your idea is a nice and thoughtful one but most of us who would be willing to participate are already charitable way before the stimulus check. We will give 10% first to our Church, followed by the Wildwood Food Pantry, Humane Society, etc. etc. etc. and perhaps some work on our home providing money to a work person. Also, my husband and I have moved 20 times first with the military and then with corporate. We have never lived in a more beautiful and enjoyable place so please all who do--stop putting down the Morse family and stop pretending to know whether or not they are charitable. We all need to take care of ourselves and not expect the Morse family to become our rescuers.

[Tviper36]

Why not use it as was intended as stimulus. Spend at the local businesses

[Heytubes]

Dr. Ben Carson from the ghetto is a prime example of success. Read his book.

[nancyre]

Make life easy - We have charities already in place - share it with the Lady Lake and Wildwood food pantries, Homebound (currently forced to close) that function all year. The Food Pantries have an immediate need for funds and have an immediate visible result and they can use the support so they can share it with the surrounding community.

[ficoguy]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com
If I do get anything I will send to my brother and sister in NJ who got laid off from the casinos.

[ficoguy]

I agree with you. I didn’t know we were all going to get $1200. You have a good idea. How to carry it forward is beyond me. Good luck
I’m would pay your house cleaner or lawn person an extra week like at Christmas. Direct assists are best. No overhead

[lindaelane]

This sad thread, with many suggesting innocent victims of our present high unemployment do not deserve help, has become one factor weighing on my not-yet-final decision of whether or not to continue living in The Villages. How can you be so lacking in empathy, compassion and/or intelligence? I will assume, kindest assumption of the three, that it is the later and you are not bright enough to realize people who lost their jobs to this disaster need help. (Isn't it possible they were so young they had no emergency fund yet, or that their emergency fund had already been drained by another emergency and not yet built back up, or that they were never educated about having an emergency fund, which is just pitiful. I know there are "cheats" but in this terrible time we can help those who lost their job without judgment about their emergency funds.)

[Cranford61]

The Foundation, if established would be a Florida corporation organized under IRS Code 501(C)(3) which requires detailed records, a Board and Officer structure and annual federal tax filing. I have extensive experience in running and serving on non profit Boards, but my personal interest at present is gauging if there is sufficient support at this important time when initial funding support could be a true community effort. Fe3l free to send questions or an expression of support to VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com.
Is there any sunset clause or does this Foundation run in perpetuity? What about the Solumam? family who operates many restaurants in the Villages but has a son who often is in the paper for beating on his girlfriend. Does he get gifted too? Who decides worthiness of the beneficiaries?

[JSR22]

Is there any sunset clause or does this Foundation run in perpetuity? What about the Solumam? family who operates many restaurants in the Villages but has a son who often is in the paper for beating on his girlfriend. Does he get gifted too? Who decides worthiness of the beneficiaries?

Nate Suleiman is a COUSIN. He has nothing to with the restaurants!

[Eg_cruz]

Wow...mind blown
Someone says that’s do something good in a very positive post about helping others (the thousands of people out of work in our community) and some how things like “don’t be jealous of the Morris family, You’re poor because of bad choices you made in life and all the other ugly statements made. Makes me just shake my head. No positive feed back .....it’s stuff like this is why people say The Villagers have entitlement issue......have you all forgotten you once worked for a living. Let’s put this situation that we are in day and say in 1990, you are working and you have a family of four and out of nowhere you have a Stay at Home......would you feel the same way as you do today. Just understand no one ask for this so, can we just do our best to remember there are young families out there that are truly scared.

[mamamia54]

America’s Friendliest Hometown!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

my god, people don't understand the difference between optional opt - in question and required opt-out question? The OP question was an optional opt-in question, meaning only people interested should proceed further, a required post on here is not even required. I wish there was a mute or block button for some posters so I don't have to read their verbal diahrea.

The OP wants to do something nice, has some experience, and if he can make it work, great! I can see some of the obstacles and understand the concepts, but am in no position to contribute. But to discourage or to criticize the inquiry of interest is really pretty petty and mean. Sometimes I wonder what I will say when I meet and figure out who some of the very opinionated "I must post my entitled negative opinion to every post I think or feel is idiotic for me."

sportsguy

[kfembry]

I've worked for a community foundation in Indiana. When setting up the foundation, a certain amount of money can be put aside to give grants immediately and the rest of the money is "endowed" and managed by an investment group or board of trustees. They take the profits to use as the "grants". In order to receive a grant, you must apply/comply with a certain criteria. This, of course, is decided by the board. The one I worked for only gave to non-profits for their use in helping the community. It is a great way to help without it being a "handout" to just anyone. At this time of all the uncertainty, giving whatever we can to help others is always a good thing.

[Cranford61]

I've worked for a community foundation in Indiana. When setting up the foundation, a certain amount of money can be put aside to give grants immediately and the rest of the money is "endowed" and managed by an investment group or board of trustees. They take the profits to use as the "grants". In order to receive a grant, you must apply/comply with a certain criteria. This, of course, is decided by the board. The one I worked for only gave to non-profits for their use in helping the community. It is a great way to help without it being a "handout" to just anyone. At this time of all the uncertainty, giving whatever we can to help others is always a good thing.
Does it ever end?

[Bogie Shooter]

my god, people don't understand the difference between optional opt - in question and required opt-out question? The OP question was an optional opt-in question, meaning only people interested should proceed further, a required post on here is not even required. I wish there was a mute or block button for some posters so I don't have to read their verbal diahrea.

The OP wants to do something nice, has some experience, and if he can make it work, great! I can see some of the obstacles and understand the concepts, but am in no position to contribute. But to discourage or to criticize the inquiry of interest is really pretty petty and mean. Sometimes I wonder what I will say when I meet and figure out who some of the very opinionated "I must post my entitled negative opinion to every post I think or feel is idiotic for me."

sportsguy

Look under settings, you can do.

[justjim]

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing

It might be a bit of a stretch to say “this is heaven here...”. It is a wonderful retirement community. :coolsmiley:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

[QUOTE=72lions;1744438]Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it. Just ask around find a couple of people give it to them they need money now

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make[/L w just ask around find a couple of people they need it now not later

[kfembry]

Does it ever end?

Goes into perpetuity.

[davem4616]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com


we decided weeks ago that we'd gift the $2400 we'll be receiving to those in need

we'll do it privately though and we have identified who we'll gift money to

your suggestion, though very well intended, will involve administrative efforts and somewhere along the line someone will want a piece of the action for their time

secondly the last thing I want to see happen is for anyone to get involved in our decisions pertaining to whom, how much, how often and when I help those with less than we have that are in need

BTW, leave the Morse family out of this. I'm sure that the Morse family is already doing a lot to help those in need.

[Challenger]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com


I am a great believer Community Foundations . Was a founding director and chairman of a Foundation in Washington County Maryland (pop 135,000), prior to moving here

That being said we do not need to reinvent the wheel here at this time I know of at least two Community Foundations serving this area which would be happy to establish Donor Advised Funds for the purposes that you describe . There are also many 501c 3 charities serving almost every human need that we could imagine in and around the Village, ie Salvation Army, dozens of child care groups, food banks ----------.

I do enthusiastic support your suggestion that those who do not need stimulus funds, make contributions to existing relief groups. Those of us who are fortunate enough to be free of significant financial issues will most probably " bank" the funds. This accomplishes nothing toward the goal of stimulus. Giving to those who help others will assure that these funds get back into the economy quickly while helping the suffering, sick , hungry, those out of a job and many others.

[Challenger]

we decided weeks ago that we'd gift the $2400 we'll be receiving to those in need

we'll do it privately though and we have identified who we'll gift money to

your suggestion, though very well intended, will involve administrative efforts and somewhere along the line someone will want a piece of the action for their time

secondly the last thing I want to see happen is for anyone to get involved in our decisions pertaining to whom, how much, how often and when I help those with less than we have that are in need

BTW, leave the Morse family out of this. I'm sure that the Morse family is already doing a lot to help those in need.

Yes , but of course you know that so many with no real knowledge, feel compelled to engage in "ad hominem" attacks on the Family.

[Challenger]

[QUOTE=72lions;1744438]Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it. Just ask around find a couple of people give it to them they need money now

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make[/L w just ask around find a couple of people they need it now not later


First Step= State approval , new corporation

Next Step - IRS Approval

Third Step - Experienced and very competent people to run it

Time frame = probably 3-6 months if it goes extremely well .


Solution to delay-- use what we already have- Hundreds of human service, and faith based, social agencies and avoid choke points above. The wheel was invented long ago and still works perfectly well.

[BlackhawksFan]

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

Great idea even if you got less than ypur projection a lot of good could be done.

Thanks for thinking of others in this time while some of the respondents can only think of themselves.

This post has surely shown, the good, the bad and the ugly that live within the community walls.

[jklfairwin]

Many have no choice. You worked hard, but you were also very lucky. You were lucky in the family you were born into and the genes you inherited. You were lucky to be born in a time and place where your skills could be developed and there was a market for them. You were lucky that you had the physical and mental ability to do what you did. Not everyone is lucky. Be grateful, not condescending.

[Two Bills]

As the old saying goes.
"If you want to get rich, start a Church or a Charity!"

[DianeM]

This sad thread, with many suggesting innocent victims of our present high unemployment do not deserve help, has become one factor weighing on my not-yet-final decision of whether or not to continue living in The Villages. How can you be so lacking in empathy, compassion and/or intelligence? I will assume, kindest assumption of the three, that it is the later and you are not bright enough to realize people who lost their jobs to this disaster need help. (Isn't it possible they were so young they had no emergency fund yet, or that their emergency fund had already been drained by another emergency and not yet built back up, or that they were never educated about having an emergency fund, which is just pitiful. I know there are "cheats" but in this terrible time we can help those who lost their job without judgment about their emergency funds.)

Do you live in a vacuum? Those that lost their jobs will also receive a stimulus check. They are entitled to unemployment which has been raised substantially. Businesses can apply for loans that will not need to be paid back if used to pay employees. Young or older makes no difference. Distribute your stimulus as you wish not at the behest of someone else and be careful who you point fingers at for being unintelligent.

[Two Bills]

Many have no choice. You worked hard, but you were also very lucky. You were lucky in the family you were born into and the genes you inherited. You were lucky to be born in a time and place where your skills could be developed and there was a market for them. You were lucky that you had the physical and mental ability to do what you did. Not everyone is lucky. Be grateful, not condescending.


As Gary Player once said.
"The harder you work, the luckier you get."

[Kenswing]

my god, people don't understand the difference between optional opt - in question and required opt-out question? The OP question was an optional opt-in question, meaning only people interested should proceed further, a required post on here is not even required. I wish there was a mute or block button for some posters so I don't have to read their verbal diahrea.

The OP wants to do something nice, has some experience, and if he can make it work, great! I can see some of the obstacles and understand the concepts, but am in no position to contribute. But to discourage or to criticize the inquiry of interest is really pretty petty and mean. Sometimes I wonder what I will say when I meet and figure out who some of the very opinionated "I must post my entitled negative opinion to every post I think or feel is idiotic for me."

sportsguy
Welcome to the new TOTV.. Where every thread has to be an argument..

[Texased]

Dr. Ben Carson from the ghetto is a prime example of success. Read his book.

And another example is the Surgeon General of the U.S. who is also black and was raised by a poor family.

[dkaufnelson]

I agree with you and think this could be a great help to those in need however it would require a lot of people to carry it out as you would need people to do all the legwork and research who needs the money the most then , then some would have to decide what portion of the money goes to each recipient, then you would need people to do all the legal work then people to do all the government and state tax work... The list of helpers needed would just go on and on. If you could find maybe 10 or 15 helpers who have experience in all these areas it would be fantastic but otherwise it would probably just be better to collect the money and then send it to some local agencies who already have the expertise in dispersing funds. I applaud you 4 thinking about this and if you get it going with enough helpers I think you could help so many people in need. Good luck and thanks for caring about those around us who are in desperate need for so many things. Meanwhile the food banks need food donations they also need cat and dog food donations and the GoFundMe fund needs money to continue to provide food for the school kids who aren't getting their meals at school anymore. The list of those needing financial help to pay their bills just goes on and on. I hope all villagers read this and if they are financially able please donate food or money or whatever you can to any organization or fund that can help so many who are suffering right in our area. Happy holidays to those who are celebrating at this time of year and remember it's always better to give than receive.

[theruizs]

Wow, the compassion expressed here by so many is heartwarming. I understand the OP’s intent, even if not thought out in every detail, and I would support it. Maybe this forum is not the place to try to get something like this going.

[Byte1]

I plan to do exactly what the money was intended for.....SPEND IT.

[72lions]

Thanks to 72lions for the kind impulse. My preference has also been to support local charities as well as those with reasonable administrative costs.

However with such low interest rates now and no investment plans for the foundation's monies, it seems the funds might come in and be quickly disbursed, end of story. It would require a significant effort to review applications and have board meetings to review and vet each application, especially if the grants are smaller amounts.

While I admire your generous spirit and desire to help, I think for me the answer will still be to support charities I trust that already have their internal infrastructures in place and with established track records of service. However I'm very open to reconsidering down the line if this becomes a reality.

Thank you for your most thoughtful reply.

[72lions]

Dale,
Your idea is a nice and thoughtful one but most of us who would be willing to participate are already charitable way before the stimulus check. We will give 10% first to our Church, followed by the Wildwood Food Pantry, Humane Society, etc. etc. etc. and perhaps some work on our home providing money to a work person. Also, my husband and I have moved 20 times first with the military and then with corporate. We have never lived in a more beautiful and enjoyable place so please all who do--stop putting down the Morse family and stop pretending to know whether or not they are charitable. We all need to take care of ourselves and not expect the Morse family to become our rescuers.

Thank you for your response and yes, I do understand that there are many who continuously provide support through a variety of charities. However, there are just as many, probably more who do not. There are Villagers who think it’s fine to provide tiny tips. There are villagers who don’t fully appreciate the struggles that the service industry goes through on a daily basis. I wish everyone in our community was as generous as you.

[Marathon Man]

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... I wish there was a mute or block button for some posters so I don't have to read their verbal diahrea...



You can place people on your "ignore List".

[NavyVet]

I am all for paying it forward. I think a lot of people might prefer being able to control where their money is going. My stimulus check, when it arrives, is already earmarked for charities and working people I know who have been laid off or out of work due to the pandemic; my hairdresser, housekeepers, extra big tips for servers/delivery people, local animal rescue groups, food pantries, etc. The last bit (maybe 10%) I am SPENDING on legal MJ because I can. I love the irony of being given money by the Federal government to buy something the Federal government doesn't approve of. It's the principle of the thing. LOL

[Challenger]

As Gary Player once said.
"The harder you work, the luckier you get."

Gary was right for some, not for all.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I see the OP is not trying to re-invent the wheel, but rather create a new wheel "made by the Villages." Yes there are other community foundations. Are there other Villages-specific community foundations? I know of one Villages-specific organization that helps people living in the Forest. I wonder how much flack they received when they were first trying to find interest for the creation of their organization.

I think a Villages-specific community foundation is a great idea, if one doesn't already exist. If it does perhaps someone could tell us who they are, how to get in touch with them, and what is their website. Because it sounds to me like none of you have ever heard of one - since if you had, surely it would've been named in this thread by now.

I would not be in a position to donate significantly - perhaps just $10-25, since we are here too early for Social Security, we have a very modest pension, and I still have to work in order to qualify for affordable health insurance.

But I do support the idea and thank the OP for suggesting it and offering to get it started.

Also as an FYI - you can't tip Publix employees. They're not allowed to accept them and can be fired if they are caught.

[DianeM]

Also as an FYI - you can't tip Publix employees. They're not allowed to accept them and can be fired if they are caught.

Changes my plan but I’ll figure it out. Thank you.

[jklfairwin]

You are not paraphrasing Christ. He never said such a cruel thing. Others did including Lenin and the often-used quote from Paul, who had other problems. All of Christ's message was about love and caring for the poor. Not blaming them for their own poverty.

[Nucky]

Put a nice note in your trunk with a Benjamin attached. When the person at Walmart or Publix see's the note and the money they will give you the thumbs up, a signal that they got the gratuity because that was in the note. They palm the bill and pocket it and nobody has been fired yet. They have a choice, take the money or leave it. They deserve it and more. Lots more. Screw the rules. Get your Alligator arms in your pocket swallow hard cause it ain't gonna be easy for the water drinkers (you know what I mean) and hook these beautiful people up.

I don't like the idea of giving my money to anyone so they can decide who gets it. I am the deciderererer in the money department and nobody else. Like it or lump it. That's That!

[72lions]

Put a nice note in your trunk with a Benjamin attached. When the person at Walmart or Publix see's the note and the money they will give you the thumbs up, a signal that they got the gratuity because that was in the note. They palm the bill and pocket it and nobody has been fired yet. They have a choice, take the money or leave it. They deserve it and more. Lots more. Screw the rules. Get your Alligator arms in your pocket swallow hard cause it ain't gonna be easy for the water drinkers (you know what I mean) and hook these beautiful people up.

I don't like the idea of giving my money to anyone so they can decide who gets it. I am the deciderererer in the money department and nobody else. Like it or lump it. That's That!

Certainly your choice. BTW, Publix employees are not furloughed likeanother businesses. And, having shopped at Publix for 50 years, most employees appreciate their job and benefits, including stock ownership, not available unless an employee. I would hate to tempt one to break the rules and risk giving up everything. Just my opinion.

[Kerry Azz]

Sweat long hours and good moves retired me and put me here, I donate time money and more to what And who I feel needs it. My stimulus check will go into paying whatever needs to get paid. I’m sure most will use the checks the same way!

[Nucky]

Certainly your choice. BTW, Publix employees are not furloughed likeanother businesses. And, having shopped at Publix for 50 years, most employees appreciate their job and benefits, including stock ownership, not available unless an employee. I would hate to tempt one to break the rules and risk giving up everything. Just my opinion.

How nice of you. They are adults who are risking their lives for you and I. Bending the rules, nope maybe just fracturing the rules because of the circumstances. If they don’t want the cheese 🧀 they are under no obligation to take it. Let’s let them decide.

[Schneil]

Remember that Stimulus check will be affecting your 2020 taxes
Tax Changes and Key Amounts for 2020 (https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/taxes/T055-S011-tax-changes-and-key-tax-amounts-for-2020/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2DqTAf_vHlqdH0Afpxp1E4RoyTpH zgw6zs77KH3hQRLlbchlJFI31rlhY)

[DianeM]

Remember that Stimulus check will be affecting your 2020 taxes
Tax Changes and Key Amounts for 2020 (https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/taxes/T055-S011-tax-changes-and-key-tax-amounts-for-2020/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2DqTAf_vHlqdH0Afpxp1E4RoyTpH zgw6zs77KH3hQRLlbchlJFI31rlhY)

If that’s the case, I wish they’d asked if I wanted it.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Put a nice note in your trunk with a Benjamin attached. When the person at Walmart or Publix see's the note and the money they will give you the thumbs up, a signal that they got the gratuity because that was in the note. They palm the bill and pocket it and nobody has been fired yet. They have a choice, take the money or leave it. They deserve it and more. Lots more. Screw the rules. Get your Alligator arms in your pocket swallow hard cause it ain't gonna be easy for the water drinkers (you know what I mean) and hook these beautiful people up.

I don't like the idea of giving my money to anyone so they can decide who gets it. I am the deciderererer in the money department and nobody else. Like it or lump it. That's That!

Again, the sentiment is greatly appreciated. But you're asking people to knowingly risk being fired just so they can get $20, from one person, once.

Publix employees get paid remarkably well, compared to most other supermarkets (Aldi's notwithstanding). Those who work an average of 20 hours per week also get stock GIVEN to them...and those who work 1000 hours in a year can also get matching 401k contributions. They also offer really inexpensive dental and vision plans to part or full timers, discount programs for prescriptions and purchases from their own pharmacy, a profit-sharing bonus, decent raises, and a pretty amazing management culture. Their open door policy really IS open door. The only time the manager's door is closed, is if an employee asks to speak with him privately about something. Otherwise, it's open for anyone to walk in and sit down and ask questions, ask advice, vent a frustration, compliment another employee, etc. etc.

I've honestly never experienced this kind of environment in retail before - and I've been in retail for 40 years.

We're treated well, all things considered. Anyone who would be dumb enough to risk their job over a $20 bill, is someone who most of us wouldn't want to work with.

[DianeM]

Again, the sentiment is greatly appreciated. But you're asking people to knowingly risk being fired just so they can get $20, from one person, once.

Publix employees get paid remarkably well, compared to most other supermarkets (Aldi's notwithstanding). Those who work an average of 20 hours per week also get stock GIVEN to them...and those who work 1000 hours in a year can also get matching 401k contributions. They also offer really inexpensive dental and vision plans to part or full timers, discount programs for prescriptions and purchases from their own pharmacy, a profit-sharing bonus, decent raises, and a pretty amazing management culture. Their open door policy really IS open door. The only time the manager's door is closed, is if an employee asks to speak with him privately about something. Otherwise, it's open for anyone to walk in and sit down and ask questions, ask advice, vent a frustration, compliment another employee, etc. etc.

I've honestly never experienced this kind of environment in retail before - and I've been in retail for 40 years.

We're treated well, all things considered. Anyone who would be dumb enough to risk their job over a $20 bill, is someone who most of us wouldn't want to work with.

I’ve always suspected they were a good place to work. This confirms it.

[Jayhawk]

Remember that Stimulus check will be affecting your 2020 taxes
Tax Changes and Key Amounts for 2020 (https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/taxes/T055-S011-tax-changes-and-key-tax-amounts-for-2020/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2DqTAf_vHlqdH0Afpxp1E4RoyTpH zgw6zs77KH3hQRLlbchlJFI31rlhY)

Did you bother reading the article? It specifically says it is unlikely to affect any tax liability as it is a tax credit. Take another look.

[Nucky]

Again, the sentiment is greatly appreciated. But you're asking people to knowingly risk being fired just so they can get $20, from one person, once.

Publix employees get paid remarkably well, compared to most other supermarkets (Aldi's notwithstanding). Those who work an average of 20 hours per week also get stock GIVEN to them...and those who work 1000 hours in a year can also get matching 401k contributions. They also offer really inexpensive dental and vision plans to part or full timers, discount programs for prescriptions and purchases from their own pharmacy, a profit-sharing bonus, decent raises, and a pretty amazing management culture. Their open door policy really IS open door. The only time the manager's door is closed, is if an employee asks to speak with him privately about something. Otherwise, it's open for anyone to walk in and sit down and ask questions, ask advice, vent a frustration, compliment another employee, etc. etc.

I've honestly never experienced this kind of environment in retail before - and I've been in retail for 40 years.

We're treated well, all things considered. Anyone who would be dumb enough to risk their job over a $20 bill, is someone who most of us wouldn't want to work with.

Publix being such a great and understanding company and I am personally aware of the other end of the spectrum. I worked at Shop-Rite years ago. I'll bet you they would have no problem with a fantastic, devoted customer showing their appreciation to a person who keeps me from having to go in the store. I'll never "win" this discussion and truly am sorry I ever brought it up. Lesson learned again. The only reason I did was to illustrate that I would rather hand out any money instead of joining another company to do so in my behalf. I surrender. A Benjamin isn't $20.

[72lions]

Remember that Stimulus check will be affecting your 2020 taxes
Tax Changes and Key Amounts for 2020 (https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/taxes/T055-S011-tax-changes-and-key-tax-amounts-for-2020/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2DqTAf_vHlqdH0Afpxp1E4RoyTpH zgw6zs77KH3hQRLlbchlJFI31rlhY)

If you read your site it’s clear this will not be taxable income.

[72lions]

If that’s the case, I wish they’d asked if I wanted it.

It won’t be taxable, but what if it were? The tax on an additional $1200 for most people is approximately $150 so your net benefit is over $1000.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Publix being such a great and understanding company and I am personally aware of the other end of the spectrum. I worked at Shop-Rite years ago. I'll bet you they would have no problem with a fantastic, devoted customer showing their appreciation to a person who keeps me from having to go in the store. I'll never "win" this discussion and truly am sorry I ever brought it up. Lesson learned again. The only reason I did was to illustrate that I would rather hand out any money instead of joining another company to do so in my behalf. I surrender. A Benjamin isn't $20.

Pretty sure the instacart folks accept tips. If you are getting delivery service, by all means tip the delivery person!

Just don't try and slip a store employee a bill of any kind in the store or parking lot. They watch, and they see, and people DO get fired for it.

Edited to add: I worked for Stop & Shop years ago too so I totally get the other end of the spectrum. A bunch of corporate ogres with a barbaric union that sucked the money from its members for very little benefit in return. After dues, I earned LESS than minimum wage. But, Stop & Shop didn't have any kind of no-tipping policy. Publix does and their ******* (the word is b.a.g.g.e.r.s. for crying out loud) even have pins they wear on their vests that instruct customers to NOT tip them.

[Number 10 GI]

You are not paraphrasing Christ. He never said such a cruel thing. Others did including Lenin and the often-used quote from Paul, who had other problems. All of Christ's message was about love and caring for the poor. Not blaming them for their own poverty.

2 Thes. 3:10 which says if a man will not work he shall not eat. The intent is to discourage laziness among the able bodied, as verses 11-12 which follow demonstrate.
We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat.

[ficoguy]

[QUOTE=72lions;1744438]Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

As for me, I have no idea when to receive a payment, even though I meet the requirements and had my tax refund directly deposited for 2 years. I wonder what order the checks are being deposited - alphabetically, by state, by social security number?

[Bogie Shooter]

[QUOTE=72lions;1744438]Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

As for me, I have no idea when to receive a payment, even though I meet the requirements and had my tax refund directly deposited for 2 years. I wonder what order the checks are being deposited - alphabetically, by state, by social security number?
When the government couldn’t answer this question, how could a poster on TOTV?
“The the check is in the mail.”

[Nucky]

[QUOTE=ficoguy;1745525]
When the government couldn’t answer this question, how could a poster on TOTV?
“The the check is in the mail.”

If it's by Social Security Number there are several people I know who should have received the check already cause the three of them have the Social Security numbers that are #1, #2 & #3. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Boy 'O Boy are they Old! :1rotfl: And Lots of Fun!