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Jeanbob
04-12-2020, 01:23 PM
We own a home in TV at the end of a dead end street. The road in front of our home is not part of a cul de sac. Our home faces the street. The front of our house faces the side of the across the street neighbor's house. Is he allowed to park his RV there? It isnt pleasant to look at this when we are sitting on our front patio. I wouldnt even think it would be allowed. Any input on Village rules would be appreciated. TYIA.

DianeM
04-12-2020, 01:25 PM
We own a home in TV at the end of a dead end street. The road in front of our home is not part of a cul de sac. Our home faces the street. The front of our house faces the side of the across the street neighbor's house. Is he allowed to park his RV there? It isnt pleasant to look at this when we are sitting on our front patio. I wouldnt even think it would be allowed. Any input on Village rules would be appreciated. TYIA.

Call Community Standards in the morning for correct info. I do not think RVs are allowed on streets for longer than 3 days to load or empty.

gadaboutgal
04-12-2020, 04:49 PM
And yet: if it is not in a villa neighborhood or Marion County, the roads are public to all and The Villages has no jurisdiction.

DianeM
04-12-2020, 04:51 PM
And yet: if it is not in a villa neighborhood or Marion County, the roads are public to all and The Villages has no jurisdiction.

I’m in Sumter and the 3 day rule applies. Perhaps in the bylaws or perhaps just respectful neighbors ?

JohnN
04-12-2020, 05:05 PM
And yet: if it is not in a villa neighborhood or Marion County, the roads are public to all and The Villages has no jurisdiction.

I'm in a villa neighborhood. The Villages ACC visited our neighborhood and said that our streets are county streets, anyone can park there. I believe the "3 day rule" for RVs also applies, but that said, it's still a county road. I don't think The Villages can actually enforce any street parking rules.

Check with ARC. I feel for your situation.

kfulton
04-12-2020, 05:41 PM
Yep

gadaboutgal
04-12-2020, 06:09 PM
Just to be clear, in Sumter County on public roads The Villages' made 3 day rule has no legal significance. If you live in Sumter and are concerned about parking on the public streets, check with the county.

There are a "rules" in the Village covenants that are totally unenforceable.

karostay
04-12-2020, 07:05 PM
Happy Easter

DianeM
04-12-2020, 07:31 PM
Just to be clear, in Sumter County on public roads The Villages' made 3 day rule has no legal significance. If you live in Sumter and are concerned about parking on the public streets, check with the county.

There are a "rules" in the Village covenants that are totally unenforceable.

I’m not concerned.

oldtimes
04-12-2020, 08:54 PM
Our deed restrictions specifically state that our own vehicles are to be parked in our own driveways.

Tomptomp
04-13-2020, 06:32 AM
Maybe if you park your car in front of his house for a few days he will get the hint. :MOJE_whot:

banjobob
04-13-2020, 06:56 AM
I would go talk to the owner ask to store it elsewhere , the consequences for not being cooperative might not be good.lol

CSB1228
04-13-2020, 07:00 AM
We own a home in TV at the end of a dead end street. The road in front of our home is not part of a cul de sac. Our home faces the street. The front of our house faces the side of the across the street neighbor's house. Is he allowed to park his RV there? It isnt pleasant to look at this when we are sitting on our front patio. I wouldnt even think it would be allowed. Any input on Village rules would be appreciated. TYIA.

If you're in a patio villa, is the RV so wide that an emergency vehicle would be unable to get to your house? Even if on street parking is allowed emergency vehicles have to be able to get through to you.

davem4616
04-13-2020, 07:01 AM
unless they're constantly taking off on the weekends (which currently is doubtful) they're just being cheap

there are plenty of places one can store an RV if they wanted to....he knows leaving it there is not the accepted norm

too bad you have a neighbor that believes it's all about him....had one of those folks across the street from me when we lived up north (we too were at the end of a 'dead end' street

LSTOWELL
04-13-2020, 07:05 AM
We own a home in TV at the end of a dead end street. The road in front of our home is not part of a cul de sac. Our home faces the street. The front of our house faces the side of the across the street neighbor's house. Is he allowed to park his RV there? It isnt pleasant to look at this when we are sitting on our front patio. I wouldnt even think it would be allowed. Any input on Village rules would be appreciated. TYIA.
3: days you can park an RV only for loading and unloading ,cleaning etc..call sherrif Dept or village watch

Rzepecki
04-13-2020, 07:25 AM
Villa roads are not maintained by the county, so maybe county laws don’t apply. Call Community Watch and ask.

clwahlstrom
04-13-2020, 07:49 AM
I don’t blame you for being mad. RVs are such an eyesore. I would research it and call whoever I could to see what the rule is and get it removed. If there are no rules, anyone could squat anywhere they wanted.

Gizemo33
04-13-2020, 07:53 AM
Why don't you just walk across the street and in a friendly manner bring up the subject with your neighbor that parks the RV there. That's the way we always handle stuff, face-to-face, man-to-man, if there's an issue discuss it.

jjp2532
04-13-2020, 07:56 AM
We had the same issue and also lived at end of a street. We talked to the owner of the vehicle and it was moved. Probably easiest way to fix the problem.

karostay
04-13-2020, 07:58 AM
Take your car park end of your driveway so no one will be able to get by.
Police will come you'll find out who's in violation..You won't have to confront your neighbor Simple

WalkerLoop
04-13-2020, 08:06 AM
If it a county street (e.g. Sumter), the county police would make the decision if it is a health and safety issue. E.g. - too restrictive to let an ambulance or fire truck to get by. A while ago there was issue like this in Polo Ridge. Community watch assessed the situation and informed the owner that the vehicle created a safety issue and if they did not relocate it, Sumter county would get involved and most likely make the owner move the vehicle. The owner moved the vehicle. If not, Sumter could be notified and it would have proceeded from there.

dunmyer
04-13-2020, 08:17 AM
Why dont you go over and ask the neighbor in question?

Instead of posting this passive aggressive post you should be a good neighbor and go over and introduce yourself ask him and let him know you would prefer the motor home not be there

I am sure there are rules and he either has a permit to do so or doesn’t.

If no permit and he is belligerent then politely ask excuse yourself and go to one of the visitor centers and ask to whom you should speak

This is just a common way to treat people. Did you really need to post this? Motor home? Junk car? Trash? Too many cars!!
It is all the same.




We own a home in TV at the end of a dead end street. The road in front of our home is not part of a cul de sac. Our home faces the street. The front of our house faces the side of the across the street neighbor's house. Is he allowed to park his RV there? It isnt pleasant to look at this when we are sitting on our front patio. I wouldnt even think it would be allowed. Any input on Village rules would be appreciated. TYIA.

photo1902
04-13-2020, 08:20 AM
Why dont you go over and ask the neighbor in question?

Instead of posting this passive aggressive post you should be a good neighbor and go over and introduce yourself ask him and let him know you would prefer the motor home not be there

I am sure there are rules and he either has a permit to do so or doesn’t.

If no permit and he is belligerent then politely ask excuse yourself and go to one of the visitor centers and ask to whom you should speak

This is just a common way to treat people. Did you really need to post this? Motor home? Junk car? Trash? Too many cars!!
It is all the same.

What is a "visitor center"? Do you even live here?

xcaligirl
04-13-2020, 08:30 AM
Almost positive you are correct!

DianeM
04-13-2020, 08:32 AM
Why dont you go over and ask the neighbor in question?

Instead of posting this passive aggressive post you should be a good neighbor and go over and introduce yourself ask him and let him know you would prefer the motor home not be there

I am sure there are rules and he either has a permit to do so or doesn’t.

If no permit and he is belligerent then politely ask excuse yourself and go to one of the visitor centers and ask to whom you should speak

This is just a common way to treat people. Did you really need to post this? Motor home? Junk car? Trash? Too many cars!!
It is all the same.


I’m thinking you might not live here. We do not have parking permits nor do we have visitor centers.

HogPilot
04-13-2020, 08:42 AM
We had asked this question a few years ago about parking in our designer housing neighborhood. There IS a time limit on driveway parking, but NOT on the street.

600th Photo Sq
04-13-2020, 08:52 AM
I'm in a villa neighborhood. The Villages ACC visited our neighborhood and said that our streets are county streets, anyone can park there. I believe the "3 day rule" for RVs also applies, but that said, it's still a county road. I don't think The Villages can actually enforce any street parking rules.

Check with ARC. I feel for your situation.

Actually Courtyard Villa roads are considered " Private " and are maintained by The Villages.

The poster has a problem but can be solved with the 3 day rule. However, the vehicle owner can get " Cute " remove the vehicle drive around the block and park in the same spot.

You can call and complain The Villages has 72 hrs to respond ….. get the picture.

I feel bad for you. Unless the vehicle some' how effects emergency vehicles, you are basically helpless.

Since the roads are considered private calling the Police is a waste of time.

PugMom
04-13-2020, 09:27 AM
Why don't you just walk across the street and in a friendly manner bring up the subject with your neighbor that parks the RV there. That's the way we always handle stuff, face-to-face, man-to-man, if there's an issue discuss it.
it will never work, makes too much sense, hehe

karostay
04-13-2020, 09:42 AM
Could someone cut a paste deed restrictions that address parking
End it one and for all...Look dog poop while your at it..Kill 2 birds with one stone

fdpaq0580
04-13-2020, 09:49 AM
We own a home in TV at the end of a dead end street. The road in front of our home is not part of a cul de sac. Our home faces the street. The front of our house faces the side of the across the street neighbor's house. Is he allowed to park his RV there? It isnt pleasant to look at this when we are sitting on our front patio. I wouldnt even think it would be allowed. Any input on Village rules would be appreciated. TYIA.

I'm having trouble picturing the neighbors house not facing the street. Dead end implies that the only way out is the only way in. Is the RV parked in a driveway that runs the side of the house, on the street, in an area that might be Villages or community property or ? Although none of my business I am curious.
Just a thought but if RV is parked on his lawn RV is lawn art.

photo1902
04-13-2020, 09:57 AM
Could someone cut a paste deed restrictions that address parking
End it one and for all...Look dog poop while your at it..Kill 2 birds with one stone

Here you go

theruizs
04-13-2020, 10:20 AM
Our deed restrictions specifically state that our own vehicles are to be parked in our own driveways.

I like that, but I highly doubt it is actually enforceable.

Shyer
04-13-2020, 10:21 AM
Right. Especially if you are in a Villa. No room to park on the street. Visitors should park in the visitor parking lot No room for emergency vehicles to drive through.

Ann Sim
04-13-2020, 10:34 AM
And yet: if it is not in a villa neighborhood or Marion County, the roads are public to all and The Villages has no jurisdiction.

RV aren’t allowed to park more than 3 days in any street..It is against SAFETY REGULATIONS..Safety Vehicles sure as FIRE ,Police,Sanitation ETC.

deputydoc
04-13-2020, 10:48 AM
The streets in the Villages are county roads, therefore you can park your vehicles for an indefinite amount of time, as long as it is legally parked. Your deed restriction states that you can park your RV in your driveway for no more than 72 hours.

karostay
04-13-2020, 10:51 AM
Here you go

Clear as mud

karostay
04-13-2020, 10:52 AM
The streets in the Villages are county roads, therefore you can park your vehicles for an indefinite amount of time, as long as it is legally parked. Your deed restriction states that you can park your RV in your driveway for no more than 72 hours.


Who monitors the start clock ?

stan the man
04-13-2020, 11:01 AM
should be a limit to amt of post per person per day...especially the ones with nothing to say

Curtisbwp
04-13-2020, 11:31 AM
I have found that getting to know your neighbor ia far more pleasant than being a coward and seeking others to do your dasterdly deeds. TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR

DianeM
04-13-2020, 11:35 AM
I have found that getting to know your neighbor ia far more pleasant than being a coward and seeking others to do your dasterdly deeds. TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR

And I have found that talking to a neighbor on a less than pleasant subject is a poor idea. I tried that last year and we’re still not speaking. There is a Community Standards office that handles this sort of thing.

wachteldepew
04-13-2020, 11:52 AM
Although I don’t know if true, I heard that there is a 72 hour max in driveways, but the roads are not owned by the Villages but are public highways and therefore they can park there lawfully for as long as they want so long as the vehicle is properly registered and insured. The Villages has no jurisdiction.

dewilson58
04-13-2020, 12:09 PM
should be a limit to amt of post per person per day...especially the ones with nothing to say




My first post, how many more do I get today???


:icon_wink:

Michael Charles
04-13-2020, 12:24 PM
My first post, how many more do I get today???


:icon_wink:

I'm wondering that if there is a limit to ones daily posts, would I be able to use the ones in the bank (like sick days at the post office) if I happen to not post for a day or two OR would it be a use it or lose it type of limit?

jimmio
04-13-2020, 12:52 PM
If the 3 day rule is unenforceable, and it's not illegal for them to park there, I would politely ask them about it. If they are jerks and continue to park in front of your house? My solution would be to hit Craigslist and buy a piece of junk $200 car and park it in front of their house. Granted, it will cost you a bit with the purchase and you'd have to license and insure it, but I've always been a "Cut off your nose to spite your face" type person if I'm right. I'm serious when I say I would do that. I once spent $300 to buy these very loud speakers to blast out a neighbor who wouldn't stop with the noise.

DianeM
04-13-2020, 12:54 PM
If the 3 day rule is unenforceable, and it's not illegal for them to park there, I would politely ask them about it. If they are jerks and continue to park in front of your house? My solution would be to hit Craigslist and buy a piece of junk $200 car and park it in front of their house. Granted, it will cost you a bit with the purchase and you'd have to license and insure it, but I've always been a "Cut off your nose to spite your face" type person if I'm right. I'm serious when I say I would do that. I once spent $300 to buy these very loud speakers to blast out a neighbor who wouldn't stop with the noise. car.jpeg

Perfect solution

karostay
04-13-2020, 01:36 PM
should be a limit to amt of post per person per day...especially the ones with nothing to say

Well spoken coming from the horses mouth :crap2:

justjim
04-13-2020, 02:39 PM
And yet: if it is not in a villa neighborhood or Marion County, the roads are public to all and The Villages has no jurisdiction.

Unfortunately you are correct. You can park your RV in the street as long as it does not impede first responders. A good friend checked it out with Sumter County sheriff’s office.

photo1902
04-13-2020, 02:45 PM
Clear as mud

What part do you need help understanding?

600th Photo Sq
04-13-2020, 04:13 PM
The streets in the Villages are county roads, therefore you can park your vehicles for an indefinite amount of time, as long as it is legally parked. Your deed restriction states that you can park your RV in your driveway for no more than 72 hours.

With one big exception " Courtyard Villas ".

Courtyard Villa roads are considered " Private " with public access permitted. In addition all Courtyard Villa roads are maintained by The Villages. They are Not considered County Roads.

The Police hands are tied unless the vehicle is somehow blocking emergency vehicle access. :shocked:

justjim
04-13-2020, 04:15 PM
RV aren’t allowed to park more than 3 days in any street..It is against SAFETY REGULATIONS..Safety Vehicles sure as FIRE ,Police,Sanitation ETC.

With all due respect, The three day rule applies to your driveway not the street in Sumter county unless the parked vehicle impedes emergency vehicles. I thought differently too,

Bogie Shooter
04-13-2020, 04:30 PM
If the 3 day rule is unenforceable, and it's not illegal for them to park there, I would politely ask them about it. If they are jerks and continue to park in front of your house? My solution would be to hit Craigslist and buy a piece of junk $200 car and park it in front of their house. Granted, it will cost you a bit with the purchase and you'd have to license and insure it, but I've always been a "Cut off your nose to spite your face" type person if I'm right. I'm serious when I say I would do that. I once spent $300 to buy these very loud speakers to blast out a neighbor who wouldn't stop with the noise.

Another happy camper...……………...

Bogie Shooter
04-13-2020, 04:40 PM
Why dont you go over and ask the neighbor in question?

Instead of posting this passive aggressive post you should be a good neighbor and go over and introduce yourself ask him and let him know you would prefer the motor home not be there

I am sure there are rules and he either has a permit to do so or doesn’t.

If no permit and he is belligerent then politely ask excuse yourself and go to one of the visitor centers and ask to whom you should speak

This is just a common way to treat people. Did you really need to post this? Motor home? Junk car? Trash? Too many cars!!
It is all the same.

You have been a visitor or renter? Where are you getting this information??
Advising people to go to a visitor center does not make any sense. BTW did you mean sales center? Please advise......

DianeM
04-13-2020, 04:56 PM
Who monitors the start clock ?

Ethics

Number 10 GI
04-13-2020, 05:28 PM
RV aren’t allowed to park more than 3 days in any street..It is against SAFETY REGULATIONS..Safety Vehicles sure as FIRE ,Police,Sanitation ETC.

Post the code/law/whatever so that your statement can be proved.

600th Photo Sq
04-13-2020, 07:21 PM
Post the code/law/whatever so that your statement can be proved.

Look it is pretty simple on the 3rd day at the 71st hour the owner leaves the parking spot and parks for a 3-4 hours somewhere maybe more or less.

Then returns to that very same spot and the clock starts all over again. A complaint call gets noted the Villages has a responsibility to respond within 72 hours.

Honestly do I really have to explain this in detail for you to understand.

The rules simply put are not enforced period !

Rule breakers know exactly what is going on. :faint:

vintageogauge
04-13-2020, 07:49 PM
Remember last summer Wildwood passed parking restrictions, don't know where the RV is located but if it's in Wildwood, call them.

Marathon Man
04-13-2020, 09:03 PM
Look it is pretty simple on the 3rd day at the 71st hour the owner leaves the parking spot and parks for a 3-4 hours somewhere maybe more or less.

Then returns to that very same spot and the clock starts all over again. A complaint call gets noted the Villages has a responsibility to respond within 72 hours.

Honestly do I really have to explain this in detail for you to understand.

The rules simply put are not enforced period !

Rule breakers know exactly what is going on. :faint:

I remember a couple of years back that a man with an RV was doing just that. He was parking his RV in his friend's driveway every fourth night. Several neighbors filed a complaint. Long story short, it turns out that the three day limit is a courtesy that can be taken away by the Board of Supervisors. This guy was given a 24hrs to remove his RV and would be fined if it came back. He move it.

I remember reading the story in the "so called news" site. One of the supervisor's was quoted in the story saying "You are working the system. I wouldn't want you for a neighbor."

karostay
04-14-2020, 07:33 AM
What part do you need help understanding?


To start with... states no trucks over 3/4 ton
All cars trucks weigh over 3/4 of a ton to begin with
Guess were all in violation
poorly drafted believe if challenged wouldn't pass the hold water test

Topspinmo
04-14-2020, 07:43 AM
Our deed restrictions specifically state that our own vehicles are to be parked in our own driveways.

Up to 1/2 ton truck. No RV’s, no camper pullers over 3/4 ton. No parking on sidewalks.

champion6
04-14-2020, 07:43 AM
To start with... states no trucks over 3/4 ton
All cars trucks weigh over 3/4 of a ton to begin with
Guess were all in violation
poorly drafted believe if challenged wouldn't pass the hold water testOwners of trucks will know what this means. It refers to cargo capacity.
The statement does not refer to cars. You did.

PoolBrews
04-14-2020, 08:04 AM
To start with... states no trucks over 3/4 ton
All cars trucks weigh over 3/4 of a ton to begin with
Guess were all in violation
poorly drafted believe if challenged wouldn't pass the hold water test

This has nothing to do with the weight of the vehicle - it is referring to the classification of the vehicle. All cars and most trucks are not in this classification. Only the larger trucks (those that can actually pull a fifth wheel or large trailer) are in this classification.

Harry Gilbert
04-14-2020, 08:04 AM
Owners of trucks will know what this means. It refers to cargo capacity.
The statement does not refer to cars. You did.

Using the terminology when the covenants were written, Even the new rangers would be classified as 3/4 ton.

karostay
04-14-2020, 08:09 AM
This has nothing to do with the weight of the vehicle - it is referring to the classification of the vehicle. All cars and most trucks are not in this classification. Only the larger trucks (those that can actually pull a fifth wheel or large trailer) are in this classification.

According to you if my neighbor owns a F 250
Parks in his driveway he's breaking the rules

Makes no sense at all

Nucky
04-14-2020, 09:35 AM
Is it remotely possible that the offending Camper is presently housing a family member who is quarantined? If so I would be inclined to Cut Them A Husk! We/You never really know a persons actual situation. Does it appear that this situation will go on forever with no relief? Only you can make that call cause we're not the offenders neighbor. I understand your concern but approaching them under these conditions may be more expensive than staring down a RV for a bit. (They may give you a hug)

We have a neighbor on the street behind us who stretches the rules constantly while preparing for or recovering from a trip. The older RV hangs out of the driveway slightly and their car is in the street. We know them from the pool and seem nice enough but I don't have to look their property at it as much as their direct neighbors do. I don't like the idea of making a call on any issue like this but can totally understand those who would call. Call/Don't Call give them some time, the decision is yours. If this is the biggest problem you have on this very day I would count myself a fortunate. Good Luck!

Nucky
04-14-2020, 09:49 AM
Were your neighbors preparing for or cleaning out their trailer when the Shutdown Occurred. Moving their vehicle to a storage facility doesn't seem like essential travel to me. I stand to be corrected. I wonder if their Storage Facility is in fact open if they decided to take a chance and return it to please their neighbors?

JCMSr
04-14-2020, 10:20 AM
Each District will have its' on set of Restrictive Covenants so it is not a "one size fits all" situation. Also, in most areas there are differences between the Villa neighborhoods and those with larger homes due to the fact that the Villa roads are maintained by the developer and not the county. Villa roads are also narrower adding to the problems created by curbside parking. Furthermore, the "dead end" roads which the OP mentioned are designed that way to allow emergency vehicles, i.e. fire trucks better access the side and rear of those end site homes in the event of a fire as well as a means to turn around when needed.

In my District and probably most others as well, Community Standards has compiled a more detailed document entitled "External Deed Restrictions Standards Village Community Development District No. _____" which identifies, clarifies and interprets most if not all of the Deed Compliance issues. For example, with regards to Campers, Winnebago's and other RV's It states that they are allowed on the driveway not to exceed 72 hours (3 days) provided they are not plugged in or inhabited. This allowance is made in an effort to accommodate the packing and unpacking of the RV. Note that this provision clearly stated "on the driveway" and does not address on street parking. I suggest you contact Community Standards and provide they with your address whereby they call provide you with a complete set of restrictions/guidelines for your property. Hopefully they can also address in more detail your specific situation with your neighbor to avoid the necessity of having to file a complaint. Given the fact that you have stated that the RV in question is parked at the dead end of your street it seems to me that the owner is subjecting himself to significant liability in the event of an emergency whereby that space is needed to protect lives and/or property.

Number 10 GI
04-14-2020, 11:18 AM
Look it is pretty simple on the 3rd day at the 71st hour the owner leaves the parking spot and parks for a 3-4 hours somewhere maybe more or less.

Then returns to that very same spot and the clock starts all over again. A complaint call gets noted the Villages has a responsibility to respond within 72 hours.

Honestly do I really have to explain this in detail for you to understand.

The rules simply put are not enforced period !

Rule breakers know exactly what is going on. :faint:

Jeanbob stated that RV's couldn't park on ANY street. ANY street was what I was questioning. I asked about a county/state law or code that prohibits that, not deed restrictions. If this is a county maintained road there has to be a law/code to enable the police to cite the owner. I've re-read all the posts and not read whether this is a Villages maintained road or county. The police can't enforce a deed restriction. I'm not sure what The Villages can legally do about it. I would imagine it will require civil court to enforce the deed restriction. I agree with Jeanbob that it is an eyesore to have to see an RV parked there all the time.

photo1902
04-14-2020, 12:30 PM
To start with... states no trucks over 3/4 ton
All cars trucks weigh over 3/4 of a ton to begin with
Guess were all in violation
poorly drafted believe if challenged wouldn't pass the hold water test

That's not what it means, at all. It has to do with the payload a vehicle can carry, not the weight of the vehicle itself.

karostay
04-14-2020, 01:16 PM
That's not what it means, at all. It has to do with the payload a vehicle can carry, not the weight of the vehicle itself.

Should be stated GVW not 3/4 ton
Hence it won't pass the hold water test when push come to shove

photo1902
04-14-2020, 01:58 PM
Should be stated GVW not 3/4 ton
Hence it won't pass the hold water test when push come to shove

I'll bring that up at the next Hold Water Test meeting. I believe that is in May?:popcorn: