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Chatbrat
04-16-2020, 04:41 PM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!

DianeM
04-16-2020, 04:53 PM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!


If we go another 30 days we’ll be drooling and we’ll be the United States of Venezuela with no economy.

Chatbrat
04-16-2020, 05:01 PM
Honestly, hang on--if you have the guts to believe "politicians" before the real facts hit--more power to you

DianeM
04-16-2020, 05:08 PM
Honestly, hang on--if you have the guts to believe "politicians" before the real facts hit--more power to you

What “real facts” are you alluding to?

Chatbrat
04-16-2020, 05:13 PM
To quote Yogi Berra, " its not over till its over" or in my words," who wants to be the last person to die from Covid"

alwann
04-16-2020, 05:13 PM
It feels like pay-it-forward-house-arrest. I'm doing the time but didn't do crime. So, am I entitled to a free-pass for stealing toilet paper?

DianeM
04-16-2020, 05:16 PM
To quote Yogi Berra, " its not over till its over" or in my words," who wants to be the last person to die from Covid"

Spit it out already. Stop playing Mission Impossible and speak. We cannot stay home forever.

DianeM
04-16-2020, 05:17 PM
It feels like pay-it-forward-house-arrest. I'm doing the time but didn't do crime. So, am I entitled to a free-pass for stealing toilet paper?

Yes it does and I’m over it

Chatbrat
04-16-2020, 05:29 PM
For a bunch of people who I believe never knew what it really meant to be sequestered, this is a pussy cat--inconvience i s temporary , the alternative is forever--you've never been underwater for 86 days- you haven't a clue what deprevation is--for most people here its a speed bump & I'm trying everything I can to bite my tongue

DianeM
04-16-2020, 05:36 PM
For a bunch of people who I believe never knew what it really meant to be sequestered, this is a pussy cat--inconvience i s temporary , the alternative is forever--you've never been underwater for 86 days- you haven't a clue what deprevation is--for most people here its a speed bump & I'm trying everything I can to bite my tongue

And the great majority are not military. Enjoy your glittering generalities. I’m done.

Chatbrat
04-16-2020, 05:43 PM
To Goldwingnut- I was on SSBN -635 G- retired thru the reserve as ICC(SS)

rustyp
04-16-2020, 05:48 PM
Am I supposed to be comparing the contribution of being in a submarine to that of a nurse going into work today knowing the enemy for sure is in the room ? I don't know how to do that. But I do know who to give the badge of courage to. Pussy cat pussy cat I love you.

Chatbrat
04-16-2020, 05:55 PM
All I know is the submarine force was strictly volunteer, and I believe anyone in the current medical force is strictly volunteer & all I can say is I'm with you --

Bogie Shooter
04-16-2020, 06:29 PM
For a bunch of people who I believe never knew what it really meant to be sequestered, this is a pussy cat--inconvience i s temporary , the alternative is forever--you've never been underwater for 86 days- you haven't a clue what deprevation is--for most people here its a speed bump & I'm trying everything I can to bite my tongue

Don’t bite your tongue....go ahead.

Bowtorc
04-16-2020, 08:16 PM
A Few more days at home is better than eternity in the box. Just grin and take it as recommended

Florida Fan
04-16-2020, 08:17 PM
For a bunch of people who I believe never knew what it really meant to be sequestered, this is a pussy cat--inconvience i s temporary , the alternative is forever--you've never been underwater for 86 days- you haven't a clue what deprevation is--for most people here its a speed bump & I'm trying everything I can to bite my tongue

You have no idea how many times I've bitten my tongue.

CFrance
04-16-2020, 09:45 PM
For a bunch of people who I believe never knew what it really meant to be sequestered, this is a pussy cat--inconvience i s temporary , the alternative is forever--you've never been underwater for 86 days- you haven't a clue what deprevation is--for most people here its a speed bump & I'm trying everything I can to bite my tongue
Yes, I agree with you. I hope to stay alive for another 15 years or so, and I'm willing to put up with a little inconvenience in order to do so.


Can't imagine what the air was like in that submarine, not to mention the claustrophobia. This is nothing compared to that.

Chatbrat
04-17-2020, 03:36 AM
In all reality the air in the sub was soo clean, it was unbelievable the stench of the outside world, when the hatch was opened when we surfaced--the smell almost gagged you

tsmall22204
04-17-2020, 05:25 AM
Suck it up butter cup this is our lives we are talking about

ficoguy
04-17-2020, 05:26 AM
What “real facts” are you alluding to?

They keep adding increments to the confinement. 10 days at 30 times and you got yourself a year

Hayek1957
04-17-2020, 05:40 AM
Hello Chatbrat,

As a side note, since I am tired of talking about the quarantine, the Scorpion was the real subject of the search by Robert Ballard who then went on to find the Titanic.
My question however, is: have you read the book Blind Man’s Bluff? It discusses the espionage and submarine events of the cold war era. How accurate was this book?
Thanks.

David Fletcher
04-17-2020, 05:53 AM
You are so lucky, you have a home to stay in. Perhaps thinking of all the people in America who have no home might be worth a minute of valuable time.

Sometimes we give a little to get a lot.

merrymini
04-17-2020, 07:03 AM
This virus is not going to disappear and we have to come out so I hope the end of April is the end of prison.

Veiragirl
04-17-2020, 07:06 AM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!
Your message ( and the ones following) has a chest beating underlining. Thanks for your service but we don't need all the stats. My late husband was a sniper in the Marines during the Vietnam war. He saw and participated horrific things. Lacking TP was not one of them

davem4616
04-17-2020, 07:12 AM
anyone want some cheese and crackers to go along with their whine?

okay so the mega wild and crazy 'Frat Party" that we've all been living day-in and day-out in TV is on hold....

sound off if you must, but this too shall pass

RRman77 retired
04-17-2020, 07:18 AM
First thank you for your service!
My Father was on the USS Haddo, in world war two. They were present as were other subs, at the signing of the surrender of Japan.
Some one busted into a storage area and stole my album with the pictures my Dad had from his days in the navy. I wish I had these to share with my children.
Anyway have a blessed, and safe day!

DeeCee Dubya
04-17-2020, 07:28 AM
Pull ‘yer head out mate.
It’s barely a garden-variety flu virus and WTF are we going to do next flu season?

ficoguy
04-17-2020, 07:28 AM
Did they have enough toilet paper for the extended tour?

Chatbrat
04-17-2020, 07:32 AM
The old submariners who made war patrols during WWll are the true heroes of the submarine force--we lost 52 boats, had the highest casualties percentage of any service and sunk the most tonnage despite being less than 2% of the entire navy

The first boat I served on was an old diesel boat that had made a few war patrols--that boat was claustrophobic

And toilet paper was the least of our problems-- the cooks ran out of flour --got very creative with saltine crackers

allus70
04-17-2020, 07:34 AM
If we go another 30 days we’ll be drooling and we’ll be the United States of Venezuela with no economy.

The economy has to open up in conjunction with plan to minimize spread of the virus. One will not succeed without the other.

Ndomines
04-17-2020, 07:37 AM
Spit it out already. Stop playing Mission Impossible and speak. We cannot stay home forever.

Prepare for the worst.
It very well could be 1.5 years.
Hope for the best,
A month or two off at the end of summer.
Then back inside till next year some time.

jakers
04-17-2020, 07:49 AM
We have brilliant people working on this around the clock. I don’t know what more we can hope for.

goodstuff3
04-17-2020, 08:15 AM
Chatbrat, I hear you and know what you mean. I have been stuck offshore for extended periods of time when they couldn't come and get us because of weather or helicopter in for maintenance.

John_W
04-17-2020, 08:21 AM
I just read in the Daily Sun sports section, what's left of it, that the PGA tour will resume June 11-14 at Colonial CC in Ft. Worth. They'll play without any fans, and said they probably continue without fans for about a month.

Colonial Officially to Be First PGA Tournament Back After COVID-19 Time Away – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/colonial-officially-to-be-first-pga-tournament-back-after-covid-19-time-away/2352723/)

bagboy
04-17-2020, 08:24 AM
I just read in the Daily Sun sports section, what's left of it, that the PGA tour will resume June 11-14 at Colonial CC in Ft. Worth. They'll play without any fans, and said they probably continue without fans for about a month.

Colonial Officially to Be First PGA Tournament Back After COVID-19 Time Away – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/colonial-officially-to-be-first-pga-tournament-back-after-covid-19-time-away/2352723/)

You mean No Bobaboey? No Mashed Potatoes? Just won't be the same.

Twiganne
04-17-2020, 08:26 AM
I learned one thing about being in a submarine. My friends husband was in and worked on the nuclear powered subs. My friends wife told me don’t worry about throwing eggs away when they expire. She told me husband was down there 3 months at a time and still ate the eggs no problem. As for me the worst I ever had to suffer was 6 weeks in basic training where for weeks you couldn’t leave the base. I know USAF. Everyone says we are the soft force. Say what you want but during a fire fight the sweetest sound is a plane flying in spraying a bunch of ammo to let the guys make their way out. Yep they were blessing that plane then lol. Not the same. I admire you guys who can go down in the subs for months with nowhere to go. That must really drive you stir crazy.

sallybowron
04-17-2020, 08:26 AM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!

One can only hope! :pray:

wganderson13
04-17-2020, 08:28 AM
We're a silly people. We are the laughing stock of the world. Our main concern is toilet paper? I' m still socializing, having dinners, no masks, etc. Hasn't effected me.

Bogie Shooter
04-17-2020, 08:35 AM
We're a silly people. We are the laughing stock of the world. Our main concern is toilet paper? I' m still socializing, having dinners, no masks, etc. Hasn't effected me.

Hope you are able to come back on here and tell us,,,,,,,when it does.

Ndomines
04-17-2020, 08:37 AM
Great that you can bite your tongue.
Always good to have a positive influence.

JoelJohnson
04-17-2020, 08:47 AM
My father was on the USS Princeton on October 24th 1944 when a 550lb bomb crashed in the deck and started a fire (it didn't explode right away). He suffered burns on his body and spend some time in the water waiting for rescue. Some time later the bomb exploded, killing many on deck (along with some from another ship, which I forget the name right now).
He died at 52 and I never heard him complain about anything, I guess he understood nothing is worst that loss of life.

allsport
04-17-2020, 08:52 AM
You prefer the death of you or a loved one, because it seems you are all about the money at the expense of lives.

Chatbrat
04-17-2020, 08:55 AM
The other ship might have been the USS Franklin-it was the ship with most lost of life in WWll that did not sink--the ship actually sailed backwards to the Brooklynns Navy Yard for repair--during its repair, shipyard workers were still finding bodies

justjim
04-17-2020, 09:02 AM
For a bunch of people who I believe never knew what it really meant to be sequestered, this is a pussy cat--inconvience i s temporary , the alternative is forever--you've never been underwater for 86 days- you haven't a clue what deprevation is--for most people here its a speed bump & I'm trying everything I can to bite my tongue

OP, some folks on this site tend to love to “bite” the messenger. No problem as many of us we have broad shoulders. Bottom line: We have things pretty nice here in The Villages. Go for a walk, a bike ride, play a bit of golf if that is your game and you can safe distance with your neighbor. Being retired here really is a “piece of cake” compared to what others in this great country are going through.

inda50
04-17-2020, 09:54 AM
In all reality the air in the sub was soo clean, it was unbelievable the stench of the outside world, when the hatch was opened when we surfaced--the smell almost gagged you


Interesting, I know so little about serving on a sub- please tell me more about your experience.

EdFNJ
04-17-2020, 10:05 AM
We're a silly people. We are the laughing stock of the world. Our main concern is toilet paper? I' m still socializing, having dinners, no masks, etc. Hasn't effected me. ME ME ME ME! It's all about ME. Therein lies the problem. Did you think that just MAYBE it might affect someone else you don't know?

fdpaq0580
04-17-2020, 11:24 AM
ME ME ME ME! It's all about ME. Therein lies the problem. Did you think that just MAYBE it might affect someone else you don't know?

I'm with you, Ed. Sadly, too many just don't or won't acknowledge what is going on because they don't give a snit about anyone but themselves. Remember Marie Antoinette when she was told the peasants were starving she answered with "let them eat cake". Same mentality.

Anne17
04-17-2020, 11:30 AM
I hope you remain safe because if you don't and get taken to a hospital you will tie up dedicated health staff who really are needed by the people who tried to avoid this disease and weren't able to because people like you didn't take precautions.

Buckeye Bob
04-17-2020, 11:38 AM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!

I was on a guided missile destroyer escort and we searched for the Scorpion in the Cape Hatteras area; have never seen rougher seas.

SacDQ
04-17-2020, 11:41 AM
Thank you for your service. 🇺🇸

Kenswing
04-17-2020, 02:23 PM
I learned one thing about being in a submarine. My friends husband was in and worked on the nuclear powered subs. My friends wife told me don’t worry about throwing eggs away when they expire. She told me husband was down there 3 months at a time and still ate the eggs no problem. As for me the worst I ever had to suffer was 6 weeks in basic training where for weeks you couldn’t leave the base. I know USAF. Everyone says we are the soft force. Say what you want but during a fire fight the sweetest sound is a plane flying in spraying a bunch of ammo to let the guys make their way out. Yep they were blessing that plane then lol. Not the same. I admire you guys who can go down in the subs for months with nowhere to go. That must really drive you stir crazy.
Yep.. Loved it when an A-10 came around to do its thing.. :coolsmiley:

Chatbrat
04-17-2020, 02:28 PM
A former bud of mine was a chopper pilot in Nam, he got his DFC, when he cleared out a LZ, saved a bunch of grunts-we did what we did

PugMom
04-17-2020, 02:38 PM
We're a silly people. We are the laughing stock of the world. Our main concern is toilet paper? I' m still socializing, having dinners, no masks, etc. Hasn't effected me.
yes, i'm back to living again too. in a few months time i may be dead,..or maybe not. will soon find out & keep ya posted

manaboutown
04-17-2020, 03:02 PM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!

I dread to think about what it would be like for a crew to run out of soap and deodorant as well as toilet paper on a submarine! I hope your sub had plenty such necessary items stored onboard.

I remember during a river cruise from Moscow to St. Petersburg touring an old USSR Foxtrot class decommissioned submarine turned into a museum located at the edge of Lake Vytegra which we crossed. The sailors slept on bunks among the torpedoes. I only saw one toilet although there may have been others. I bought a souvenir mug which has "Podvodnaya Lodkae B-440 (in Russian) on it.

BlkBlt6
04-17-2020, 03:19 PM
Thank you for your service!

jimjamuser
04-17-2020, 08:21 PM
Back in 1968 I was on a ballistic missile submarine-we were on patrol when the Scorpion was reported overdue-well we, were extended two weeks beyond our normal patrol schedule 74 days , we were extended 12 more days--this is akin to what we are experiencing with Covid now--its been 30 days--be prepared for another 30 days --till we know what's really out there--this is no drill --its for real--be prepared for the long haul-

In the end we'll be better & stronger for it !!
Thank you for that very serious service to the US.

bpascani
04-17-2020, 11:29 PM
If you are a Sam's Club member, you can upgrade your membership to plus, and don't have to pay the yearly fee. You can pro rate to whatever your membership is. Free shipping. Don't wait til the last minute..delivery has been about 2 wks, BUT, 1st order I was able to buy a 12 pack of the large kleenex. I haven't been able to get TP since this whole mess started (BUT, I'm not a morning person, and we already had plenty anyway). This kleenex could quite possibly turn out to be 50/50, tp and kleenex. I'm LOVING ordering online and having it shipped (can't seem to get a pick up appointment with Walmart or Sam's Club). Can't order perishables, TP, clorox wipes and paper towels aren't often available, but other things work, and you don't have to go out!