Guidelines: Opening Up America Again

[Wiserbud47]

www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

Listening to the President's news briefing, I could only remember some of the information in the guidelines. I downloaded them and read them a few times. I would encourage you to read them also, because I belief our lives will be affected by these phases for quite awhile. In some cases, the governor will turn to the county, who will turn to the local government to make decisions. In other cases such as schools, bars and nursing homes, the federal government has made the initial decision for the states.

People will be happy with parts of the plan, but no one is going to be completely happy. That generally is a sign of a good plan!

[bilcon]

Very well done by The President and his staff.

[GoodLife]

As I predicted, vulnerable individuals (elderly and those with health conditions) don't get freedom from house arrest until Phase 3

[Taltarzac725]

As I predicted, vulnerable individuals (elderly and those with health conditions) don't get freedom from house arrest until Phase 3

Sounds like a cautious approach.

[asianthree]

Each Governor gets to decide, wonder if Florida will choose different phases that have lower numbers, than say Orange County

[graciegirl]

Each Governor gets to decide, wonder if Florida will choose different phases that have lower numbers, than say Orange County

This is changing the subject, but it is interesting to me that Florida has the third largest population, behind California and Texas, but the deaths so far from Covid-19 are listed as eighth highest in the Nation. So...leaping and speculating, as I tell others NOT to do, I wonder since we have overall more older people, if those old birds are more careful...……...

[retiredguy123]

As I predicted, vulnerable individuals (elderly and those with health conditions) don't get freedom from house arrest until Phase 3
So, many businesses in The Villages won't have much of an incentive to open. Very few customers.

[asianthree]

This is changing the subject, but it is interesting to me that Florida has the third largest population, behind California and Texas, but the deaths so far from Covid-19 are listed as eighth highest in the Nation. So...leaping and speculating, as I tell others NOT to do, I wonder since we have overall more older people, if those old birds are more careful...……...

We are not populated like Orange County. TV is More like a suburban area, mostly confined in itself, and most here are active. Most have health care, and use it. Unless posted elsewhere only one death has been reported with covid, in TV. But I could be wrong.

Not surprised that many numbers with Covid are health care workers. In MI one hospital alone have more than 1000 employees diagnosed. That brings up numbers quickly.

[John41]

President’s plan makes sense. Rolling opening with careful monitoring.

[VApeople]

I wonder since we have overall more older people, if those old birds are more careful...……...

YES

We were in our local Wal Mart on 466A yesterday and people were definitely keeping away from each other.

Last week we stopped in a Wal Mart near Orlando and the young people appeared to make no effort to keep their distance from each other.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

The person who I will listen to when determining the all-clear is...............me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We are not populated like Orange County. TV is More like a suburban area, mostly confined in itself, and most here are active. Most have health care, and use it. Unless posted elsewhere only one death has been reported with covid, in TV. But I could be wrong.

Not surprised that many numbers with Covid are health care workers. In MI one hospital alone have more than 1000 employees diagnosed. That brings up numbers quickly.

Yeah if you were to take our population and force them into a geographical location the size of Manhattan, our death rate would likely skyrocket.

[coffeebean]

As I predicted, vulnerable individuals (elderly and those with health conditions) don't get freedom from house arrest until Phase 3

Our president did say in his Corona Virus update that these are guidelines and are not mandatory.

[coffeebean]

This is changing the subject, but it is interesting to me that Florida has the third largest population, behind California and Texas, but the deaths so far from Covid-19 are listed as eighth highest in the Nation. So...leaping and speculating, as I tell others NOT to do, I wonder since we have overall more older people, if those old birds are more careful...……...

We older folks are more scared which in turn makes most of us more careful.

[diesel350]

Anyone doing some independent studying about this whole situation? Read this latest study by two Stanford University doctors about how the reaction to this virus was way overstated. It gets pretty technical but the underlying premise is, how do we attain crowd immunity, if we stay huddled in our homes. It's a good read...here's the link...

BOMBSHELL: New Coronavirus Study is a GAME CHANGER - TheBlaze (https://www.theblaze.com/steve-deace/new-coronavirus-study-is-a-game-changer?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202020-04-18&utm_term=TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM%20-%20last%20270%20days)

[ergann]

Amen!

[hollywoodz]

www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

Listening to the President's news briefing, I could only remember some of the information in the guidelines. I downloaded them and read them a few times. I would encourage you to read them also, because I belief our lives will be affected by these phases for quite awhile. In some cases, the governor will turn to the county, who will turn to the local government to make decisions. In other cases such as schools, bars and nursing homes, the federal government has made the initial decision for the states.

People will be happy with parts of the plan, but no one is going to be completely happy. That generally is a sign of a good plan!
The words in those 3-phase step guidelines offered by the administration differs little from logic and what those is real command, like governors, mayors, city councils and commissions, have been doing already and will continue to do to protect us all---hopefully. But opening the beaches in Jacksonville today is irresponsible, and one has to wonder whether Florida's governor feels more comfortable sitting on the sidelines than stepping up and overturning what is about to happen there.

[Florida Pine]

Thanks for the brief, accurate comment.:clap2:


:www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

Listening to the President's news briefing, I could only remember some of the information in the guidelines. I downloaded them and read them a few times. I would encourage you to read them also, because I belief our lives will be affected by these phases for quite awhile. In some cases, the governor will turn to the county, who will turn to the local government to make decisions. In other cases such as schools, bars and nursing homes, the federal government has made the initial decision for the states.

People will be happy with parts of the plan, but no one is going to be completely happy. That generally is a sign of a good plan!

[Skunky1]

They’re doing a hell of a business out behind Palmer country club. Beer, hotdogs, and just good clean fun. They still have the tables and chairs set up on the back patio so you don’t have to sit in your golf cart.

[davem4616]

I'm all in for any carefully thought through plan that get us to the new normal

it will take awhile....businesses that were financially on the edge will have a difficult time weathering this

what I hope doesn't happen after being cooped up for so long is that Villages embrace an attitude of 'damn the torpedo's, full steam ahead'

some airlines are not selling the middle seat....we'll have to wait to see if the renovations going on inside the theatre in Spanish Springs will include taking out every other seat and the odd numbered rows lol

[blueash]

It is time to Liberate the pickleball courts.

[NotGolfer]

Anyone doing some independent studying about this whole situation? Read this latest study by two Stanford University doctors about how the reaction to this virus was way overstated. It gets pretty technical but the underlying premise is, how do we attain crowd immunity, if we stay huddled in our homes. It's a good read...here's the link...

BOMBSHELL: New Coronavirus Study is a GAME CHANGER - TheBlaze (https://www.theblaze.com/steve-deace/new-coronavirus-study-is-a-game-changer?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202020-04-18&utm_term=TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM%20-%20last%20270%20days)


I listened to the video and it's astounding! It truly is a game-changer. I've heard others also state that the numbers of other studies are off. I generally think that fear has played a large portion in this thing. The virus is real, don't get me wrong BUT wonder "IF" ......think of positive scenarios in this. I know some will shoot me down. Just know as I say this---I have autoimmune issues that put me in the risk factor, along with age.

[roscoguy]

In MI one hospital alone have more than 1000 employees diagnosed.

I still have many friends & family in Michigan. Do you know which hospital? I couldn't find anything like that though. The only thing close was:

Beaumont Health and Henry Ford Health System in southeastern Michigan said they were caring for more than 1,000 COVID-19 patients at their 13 hospitals. (emphasis added)

Michigan hospitals jammed as coronavirus cases, deaths rise (https://apnews.com/9c3b3f37768687981515f4f2d26a88f2)

[haysus7]

It’s a new virus. No one knows

[DianeM]

You nailed it! It’s much too soon. His tweets yesterday about Virginia, Minnesota and Michigan were completely inappropriate. The protesters were NOT acting appropriately.

Actually I think the protestors have every right to complain. Virginia’s governor is trying to rewrite the constitution by banning 2nd amendment rights and applauding live birth abortions. Michigan’s governor is being a dictator and will not permit purchasing things like paint, grass seed and bird seed. In addition, if you have a 2nd home WITHIN the state, you are not permitted to go there even if it’s in a way more isolated area. I’d be protesting like mad!

[chet2020]

Washington DC presents guidelines to the states for re-opening. None of the states currently meet these guidelines. Washington DC then starts tweeting that certain states should be "liberated," in violation of the guidelines they just presented. You can't make it up.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Actually I think the protestors have every right to complain. Virginia’s governor is trying to rewrite the constitution by banning 2nd amendment rights and applauding live birth abortions. Michigan’s governor is being a dictator and will not permit purchasing things like paint, grass seed and bird seed. In addition, if you have a 2nd home WITHIN the state, you are not permitted to go there even if it’s in a way more isolated area. I’d be protesting like mad!

They didn't have the right to block the hospital. They didn't have the right to block the sidewalks, they didn't have the appropriate parade permits to march in the streets. They had the right to complain. They were also under ORDERS to maintain social distancing. They did not have the right to violate that order, which they violated.

If they had a complaint, they should've complained in a way that didn't threaten the lives of everyone else.

[DianeM]

They didn't have the right to block the hospital. They didn't have the right to block the sidewalks, they didn't have the appropriate parade permits to march in the streets. They had the right to complain. They were also under ORDERS to maintain social distancing. They did not have the right to violate that order, which they violated.

If they had a complaint, they should've complained in a way that didn't threaten the lives of everyone else.

Nope. The 70’s chick in me says go for it. No permits are issued for a protest and blocking the streets is the whole point of gathering. I would have been there too. Everyone else didn’t participate so their butts were fine. Orders are suggestions when written by someone like their governor Whitmer.

[Moderator]

The topic is the “opening up America plan”... some of the replies have attempted to take the discussion off track into the political arena. Please stay on topic.

Moderator

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Well DianeM, some of the beaches in Florida are now open. By all means, go on ahead over to them, and join the fun and frolic. Just please fumigate and sanitize yourself and your car before returning to the Villages, so that anything you picked up from those fun frolickers doesn't enter our community.

[DianeM]

Well DianeM, some of the beaches in Florida are now open. By all means, go on ahead over to them, and join the fun and frolic. Just please fumigate and sanitize yourself and your car before returning to the Villages, so that anything you picked up from those fun frolickers doesn't enter our community.

I’m not a beach bunny but I truly doubt that the Bambi in a pink bikini is coming to The Villages. I’m not in the least concerned about beaches.

[ColdNoMore]

Well DianeM, some of the beaches in Florida are now open. By all means, go on ahead over to them, and join the fun and frolic. Just please fumigate and sanitize yourself and your car before returning to the Villages, so that anything you picked up from those fun frolickers doesn't enter our community.

:agree:

[graciegirl]

I don't think this picking at each other helps anybody. I personally don't think protesting and marching does a lick of good, but I know I am in the minority. I can't think of any protest, on either side, I would join. Most of the causes that really matter to me, don't have groups of people wanting to march. I have always supported stem cell research, even when others who I loved did not. I got in trouble when I was 12 with my family when I wrote to the Columbus Dispatch that I felt that Darwins Theory of Evolution was a legitimate area of science to study. I try to remain silent on some issues because I have friends who are dear to me who feel that these things are in conflict with faith in God.

All we can do is try to be fair and try to be open minded. I know it does not help anybody understand better when we give or get a mean hearted criticism. And I have done that. Many times.

Now my very heart is tired of stress and dissension.

[jebartle]

Personally, if folks want to kill themselves, go for it, just don't kill me or mine. I'm listening to the scientist NOT the politicans.

[Butch Michaud]

We have about 22 million people in Florida. And have had 726 deaths. Do the math??

[ColdNoMore]

We have about 22 million people in Florida. And have had 726 deaths. Do the math??

So far.

And due to a lack of testing, have no clue as to where we are..."on the curve."