Speeders

[iandwk]

Now that I am full timer it irritates me to see the idiots who think they need to drive 45 or more through TV. I haven't noticed many villagers doing it, though I am sure there are those that do. It seems that it's mostly contractors. I assume they are younger people aggravated about being behind us old geezers, but where in TV are they going to avoid that? If it weren't for us geezers they wouldn't have a place to be working anyhow. What do some of you think of getting together and taking down license plate numbers and truck numbers if possible and reporting them to their employers? Maybe it'll save someone from being mixed up in an unnecessary accident. Do you guys this is something we can do something about or has this all been tried before?

[k2at]

Y don't we hide ourselves in areas where these situations occur and just shoot them? It certainly will cut down on recidivism.

[iandwk]

I like that idea.

Seriously, I seem to recall a few weeks ago that a contractor speeding on Canal St. caused an accident that could have been more serious than it was. My wife watched a contractor drive right through a gate coming from Buena Vista into Polo Ridge and tear the arm off. He didn't even slow down for the gate, so I assumed it to be intentional. Since I know it happened once I have to guess it happens quite frequently.

[Talk Host]

Y don't we hide ourselves in areas where these situations occur and just shoot them? It certainly will cut down on recidivism.

Is speeding a capitol offense?

[kb8tpw]

You just touched the tip of the iceberg. I agree it is primarily contractors, but BV and Morse are worse than the Indianapolis 500 for the most part. As long as there is no enforcement such as I observe on 466,466A,Wildwood, Rolling Acres and others nothing will change. Speed limits are generally 10 MPH less than I was used to in Ohio, but that's probably a good thing, even if I don't care for it. I have seen some of the worse drivers here in Florida than any other place I've been and believe me not all are senior citizens.

[golf2140]

Just check, it's the white hairs passing you. It's not always the younger folks.

[Hancle704]

Guess the Sumter County Sheriff's Dept has taken note and is doing some selective enforcement, as I saw them issuing tickets along Morse Blvd the past 2 days.

[Bogie Shooter]

You just touched the tip of the iceberg. I agree it is primarily contractors, but BV and Morse are worse than the Indianapolis 500 for the most part. As long as there is no enforcement such as I observe on 466,466A,Wildwood, Rolling Acres and others nothing will change. Speed limits are generally 10 MPH less than I was used to in Ohio, but that's probably a good thing, even if I don't care for it. I have seen some of the worse drivers here in Florida than any other place I've been and believe me not all are senior citizens.

I have a receipt for $172 for a speeding ticket on 466A....don't tell me there is no enforcement!

[Mikitv]

The other day while standing out in front of our house Sunscape Truck came racing down our street, while he was talking on the phone. This is residential area and their are grand kids visiting in the area too. Not only did he do this the once he came back down few minutes later speeding recklessly by our house again while on the phone. My husband gestured to him to slow down but just blew by.


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[kb8tpw]

I didn't articulate my point, which was, there is no enforcement on Morse and BV. There is ample on 466a,466,301,Rolling Acres and the "off Villages" arena. Yes, as I'm on the south end, I know, you are absolutely right, 466A is closely watched. The later post indicated some enforcement activity in the villages area, so as stated maybe they have taken note.

[starflyte1]

I live at the North end of Morse Blvd, North of 466 and the speed limit is 30mph on Morse. Rarely is there a time when I am on "North" Morse and do NOT see a law enforcement vehicle. People still speed, but those that live here are more careful, though it is hard to keep the speed to 30.

[Talk Host]

Ever since we started this forum three years ago, I have been an advocate of some type of police department in The Villages. (there is a fire department) There has been consistant resistance to that idea by many board members. They have said they don't want to incur the expense associated with local law enforcement.

With the size of The Villages constantly increasing along with legitmate concerns such as this one, I still maintain that some type of law enforecment is in order. Even if it is some form of security force. I suppose since The Villages is not a governmental subdivision, they aren't permitted to have a police department per se.

I have been to many private communities that have "armed" security on patrol 24/7. One example is Fripp Island near Beaufort, South Carolina.

The three Sheriff's patrols are not adequately equipped to provide consistant, specialized enforcement in The Villages.

Another idea would be to contract with the three Sheriff's departments to have cars assisgned inside the Villages all the time. We did that with many smaller communites when I was a deputy in Ohio. Los Angeles County contracts deputies to cities that don't have their own force. These deputy patrols would work inside the Villages only, but be on call for emergency assistance outside if needed.

JLK

[otherbruddaDarrell]

The other day while standing out in front of our house Sunscape Truck came racing down our street, while he was talking on the phone. This is residential area and their are grand kids visiting in the area too. Not only did he do this the once he came back down few minutes later speeding recklessly by our house again while on the phone. My husband gestured to him to slow down but just blew by.


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I would have also called Sunscape and asked to speak to the owner or manager and tell them of the incident. I don't really think they would want an employee to represent the company in that manner.

[hoganth]

We also should have Canal Street renamed to "Race Track Road" because that is what it has become.

[paulandjean]

do not see much of a problem speeding.seems there are lots of police out there now to catch them. lots of speed traps in the villages.seems they are doing their job.

[pooh]

do not see much of a problem speeding.seems there are lots of police out there now to catch them. lots of speed traps in the villages.seems they are doing their job.

Have to disagree with you on this one at least near where I live. Maybe because I live not too far from a roundabout near LSL, and Morse Blvd is right behind my house, I see (and hear), a number of cars and especially trucks traveling faster than posted limits.
Alas, I don't see any law enforcement vehicles...sigh....wish I did near these particular locations.

[swrinfla]

I see Sumter County deputies on Buena Vista (near Bridgeport at Lake Sumter) at least once a month. Usually with two or more cars waiting for their ticket! But, I agree completely that they're not around often enough!

No one's mentioned speeding golf carts, which are my pet peeve. But, of course, those folks might be late for their tee time! :wave:

SWR
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[paulandjean]

sorry but I disagree, see more police in the villages area.then where I come from.

[Mikitv]

To the note about calling Sunscape, I would have but I think it was the owner.

[pooh]

To the note about calling Sunscape, I would have but I think it was the owner.
Isn't that company working for The Villages? Maybe that's who you can call....but now that I think of it, who exactly? Maybe someone knows.

[k2at]

If u saw Sunscape truck racing past ur house, u r more fortunate than I am. I have tried to get them back to my house for repairs since I paid them in full and have been unsuccessful. That was 6 months ago. Maybe if they go a little faster to and from jobs, they will have time to come back to my house.

[billethkid]

One; let's vote for the implementation of citizen's arrest...it is not legal in FL. Such a pity. I would gladly turn in the speeders I see/experience daily and meet them in front of the judge. My experience over 5 years would conclude, most of the speeding is by residents....hands down.

Secondly establish the VSPS ....Vigilante Speeder Persecution Squad. Radar gun, camera and cell phone.

And for giggles and squirts, let's tell all three county sheriffs we support doubling the size of their respective police forces with the objective of nailing the speeding issue once and for all. The revenue will more than pay the tab. Then TV will get a reputation like some of the small towns we all know about that has the sheriff who will nail you for one mph over in his town.

Why not?

btk

[Pats2010]

One; let's vote for the implementation of citizen's arrest...it is not legal in FL. Such a pity. I would gladly turn in the speeders I see/experience daily and meet them in front of the judge. My experience over 5 years would conclude, most of the speeding is by residents....hands down.

Secondly establish the VSPS ....Vigilante Speeder Persecution Squad. Radar gun, camera and cell phone.

And for giggles and squirts, let's tell all three county sheriffs we support doubling the size of their respective police forces with the objective of nailing the speeding issue once and for all. The revenue will more than pay the tab. Then TV will get a reputation like some of the small towns we all know about that has the sheriff who will nail you for one mph over in his town.

Why not?

btk

A squad of Barney Fifes. That would be a hoot.:clap2:

[iandwk]

Then TV will get a reputation like some of the small towns we all know about that has the sheriff who will nail you for one mph over in his town.

Why not?

btk


I have heard most of my life about small towns with deputies out nailing folks for doing 1mph over the limit. I've never seen it, though. Has anyone here ever seen it? I don't mean heard a friend of a friend who knows someone who got a ticket for it. I have seen speed traps in a lot of places, but the only ones I have seen them cite are the ones who are passing everyone in sight and changing lanes constantly to do so.

I am all for enforcement of the speed limit for any and all who speed. Why else would we have the law? Isn't it intended to maintain the safest possible driving environment? Or should we just forget it and let everyone drive the speed they feel they are capable of and let every one fend for themselves on the roads?

I think the point is that those who choose to do 50-60mph in TV are posing a danger to all of us, and my wife and occasionally kids and grandkids are on these roads. Ask the ladies who were forced to run off the road on Canal St. and their families what they think.

[Bogie Shooter]

What if we all called the sheriff's office every time we see a speeder. Would they eventually get the message.
What about calling your county commissioner (2 of them live in TV) once a week to report the speeders that you saw that week.
I am for law enforcement but not a new police department of any kind in TV. I would however, be in favor of adding additional deputy sheriff patrol cars dedicated to TV.

[Rag Bagger]

Ya all missed the whole point of the original post. If you, that is you, not someone who saw someone speed called the company owner of a speeding employee and that happened often enough it would most likely work. But don't keep getting side tracked. Stick to the fact of what you and only you saw.

Another good point is to call the local sherif. If it happens enough they will respond.

Two weekends ago I saw the sherif and a state police car pulling speeders over on Morse. I saw them both going to my destination and then coming back. Very effective. So I think they may be doing their job but they can't be everyplace all the time.

I still think homeowners calling company owners would be very effective.

Personally the most common violators that I have seen has been us. Usually doing 40 to 45 on a 35MPH road.

[susieq31]

Drivers of some of the newer street-legal golf cars are some of the worst offenders, in my opinion. They appear to think that they can drive at highway speeds on the multi-modal paths (where they probably shouldn't be anyway). Even some of the non-street legal carts cut cars off and make riding very dangerous for anyone sharing the road with them, especially bicyclists.

[Peggy D]

Isn't that company working for The Villages? Maybe that's who you can call....but now that I think of it, who exactly? Maybe someone knows.

Call the Home Warranty Dept. They have a list of all contractors working in TV. They will deal with them I'm sure.

I see this also, but worse is when there is no name on the side of the truck.
What then?

[redwitch]

I've found that the problem isn't the contractors and their people but rather the lawn people. TV is pretty strict about the rules for those who work for them -- they have to go back routes to sites, no speeding, etc. If they are found to break the rules, they are actually suspended from working for TV or being on TV property for a certain amount of time. So, for them, definitely call TV. Something will be done.

However, the lawn people are another issue -- they usually are rushing from one home to another and seem to care less about what is in their way. If you bother calling the number on their vehicles, you will usually reach the offending driver since the driver is the owner. An exercise in futility.

I do have an acquaintance who claims she got a ticket for going 3 mph over the speed limit on BV. Not sure I believe her but worth knowing. The sheriffs are out as much as they can to ticket/warn. However, local towns and counties are pretty short on cash and the staff required to have speed traps set up probably isn't readily available. Maybe we should go the British route -- cameras take pix of speeders (not just red light runners) and tickets are mailed to the owner of the vehicle, which, hopefully, would include golf carts. You have to prove you weren't driving your vehicle and that isn't all that easy.

[chacam]

Drivers of some of the newer street-legal golf cars are some of the worst offenders, in my opinion. They appear to think that they can drive at highway speeds on the multi-modal paths (where they probably shouldn't be anyway). Even some of the non-street legal carts cut cars off and make riding very dangerous for anyone sharing the road with them, especially bicyclists.

Where have you ever seen a speed limit sign on multi modal paths ?

[Hawkwind]

Where have you ever seen a speed limit sign on multi modal paths ?

On the bridge over Lake Sumter at Sunset Point. 10 MPH I think it is or is it 15?

[pooh]

On the bridge over Lake Sumter at Sunset Point. 10 MPH I think it is or is it 15?

It's 10 MPH.

[Redtail]

Drivers of some of the newer street-legal golf cars are some of the worst offenders, in my opinion. They appear to think that they can drive at highway speeds on the multi-modal paths (where they probably shouldn't be anyway). Even some of the non-street legal carts cut cars off and make riding very dangerous for anyone sharing the road with them, especially bicyclists.

cars go way too fast on the road and golf carts go too slow on the paths. my my whats an lsv owner to do?

[Pats2010]

Maybe we should go the British route -- cameras take pix of speeders (not just red light runners) and tickets are mailed to the owner of the vehicle, which, hopefully, would include golf carts. You have to prove you weren't driving your vehicle and that isn't all that easy.

Guilty until proven innocent? I don't think I want to live like that.

[NJblue]

I have had more close calls driving in and around TV than I ever did driving in NJ. However, none of these close calls resulted from speeders. Most were from improper use of the roundabouts. If I'm driving down BV or Morse and someone passes me going 45, it really doesn't concern me and doesn't present a real safety issue from my perspective since these roads were designed to handle those kind of speeds. (However, there have been times that I have been passed by people going considerably faster than that, perhaps 55-60. These people should be nailed since, when going that fast, they can appear out of nowhere and you can inadvertently move into their lane without knowing they are there.)

If you want to improve the safety of our roads, station a cop at the roundabouts and issue tickets to those who don't follow the rules. To crack down on people going 5 MPH over the speed limit will not improve safety but will seriously degrade the quality of life here at TV. I can't imagine more than a few people who actually want to live in a police state.

[Pats2010]

To crack down on people going 5 MPH over the speed limit will not improve safety but will seriously degrade the quality of life here at TV. I can't imagine more than a few people who actually want to live in a police state.

Amen:bowdown:

[Bogie Shooter]

I have had more close calls driving in and around TV than I ever did driving in NJ. However, none of these close calls resulted from speeders. Most were from improper use of the roundabouts. If I'm driving down BV or Morse and someone passes me going 45, it really doesn't concern me and doesn't present a real safety issue from my perspective since these roads were designed to handle those kind of speeds. (However, there have been times that I have been passed by people going considerably faster than that, perhaps 55-60. These people should be nailed since, when going that fast, they can appear out of nowhere and you can inadvertently move into their lane without knowing they are there.)

If you want to improve the safety of our roads, station a cop at the roundabouts and issue tickets to those who don't follow the rules. To crack down on people going 5 MPH over the speed limit will not improve safety but will seriously degrade the quality of life here at TV. I can't imagine more than a few people who actually want to live in a police state.

Lets not start that roundabout session again!!

[Bogie Shooter]

Coming south on BV this morning and saw a car(one of the local A/C companies) approching me from behind at a speed greater than the 35MPH I was going. He passed me in the Palmer roundabout and I followed him to the next roundabout. His speed was well over 50MPH.
I called the company and asked for the person responsible for safety. Explained what I had observed. There were very nice and said they did not advocate breaking the law and would speak with the driver.
If I see this company again speeding.....you will know the company name.

[F16 1UB]

Hawkwind it's 10 MPH on the bridge but if there's no carts heading toward me I don't mess around getting across the bridge. 3-4 months ago a van jumped over the concrete curbing and strattled the wall with his RR tire still on the side of the cart path. I would have hated to met him head on. Imagine how high the front end must have jumped to first go up and over the curb then he tried to drive it back onto Morse.

[Hawkwind]

Hawkwind it's 10 MPH on the bridge but if there's no carts heading toward me I don't mess around getting across the bridge. 3-4 months ago a van jumped over the concrete curbing and strattled the wall with his RR tire still on the side of the cart path. I would have hated to met him head on. Imagine how high the front end must have jumped to first go up and over the curb then he tried to drive it back onto Morse.

Steve
I agree with you if no one is coming towards me I have the peddle to the floor. When someone is heading my way I slow way down until we pass and I also pull over as far to the right as possible as it is a passable tight fit path. Also it only took one time to feel the strong breeze of the passing cart on the left knee to remind myself to not drive with my left knee or foot outside the cart on that section of cart path.

[Bogie Shooter]

Steve
I agree with you if no one is coming towards me I have the peddle to the floor. When someone is heading my way I slow way down until we pass and I also pull over as far to the right as possible as it is a passable tight fit path. Also it only took one time to feel the strong breeze of the passing cart on the left knee to remind myself to not drive with my left knee or foot outside the cart on that section of cart path.

Probably a good rule on any car path.