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miharris
04-22-2020, 01:04 PM
Several people have referenced an article in the WSJ regarding the coming surge of Covid-19 cases in the villages, so I decided to post a daily update on the surge. Since there is no separate reporting for the Villages specifically, I decided to combine the numbers from the 3 counties that include portions of the villages, as reported by the Daily Sun. It's not perfect, but its a pretty good representation of the overall trends in our part of central Florida.
As of today, we have 506 reported cases in Lake, Marion and Sumter county. Dividing by total deaths of 21 gives us a case fatality rate of 4.1%. That is higher that the state average of 3%, I assume in part due to the fact that Sumter county has the highest average age of any county in Florida, so a higher percentage of the population is at risk. On the other hand, it appears that the case fatality rate of new infections is much lower, possibly due to more widespread testing and better treatment.
Below is a breakdown of the trends.
New cases: 13, up 2.6% from the previous day
% infected: .058% of the population has been tested positive.
Total Fatalities: 21, there has been no change for the past 6 days.
% Fatalities: .00242% of the population in the tri-county area has died from C-19.
Odds you get infected: Based on the total number of cases, your odds of getting infected are 1,709 to 1. Based on the new infections, your odds are 66,538 to 1.
Odds you will die: Based on the total deaths of 21, your odds of dying from C-19 are about 41,190 to 1.
Again, those are based on total deaths. If you use yesterdays number of new cases as a baseline, and apply the 4.1% case fatality rate (observed), your odds of contacting the disease and dying from that infection are 1,632,075 to 1 on any given day in the Tri-county area. As a point of reference, the odds of getting hit by lightning in Florida are about 600,000 to 1.
In Sumter county, which may be a better proxy for the Villages, the observed case fatality rate is 6.7%, and new cases were up by 10 (6.1%) yesterday. Using the same math as above, your odds of contracting C-19 are 13,300 to 1 in Sumter county, and your odds of dying from the the disease are 198,507 to 1 on any given day, assuming 10 new cases per day. We'll see how tomorrow's numbers look, and I'll post an update then.
Stay safe and be reasonable.
vintageogauge
04-22-2020, 01:31 PM
There are more than 900,000 people living in the three counties, TV is a small percentage of those people. 21 deaths out of 900,000 looks pretty good to me. I believe there are records of how many deaths in TV, last I read a few days ago was 9.
Carla B
04-22-2020, 01:42 PM
Although it is tedious, tracking the increase in cases by zip code on the FL Public Health Covid-19 site can narrow down the location of the positive cases.
For instance, Sumter Co. shows 5-9 cases in 32159, 53 in 32162, and 16 in 32163. Interestingly, there are 49 in Bushnell (33513) and 21 in Lake Panasofklee (33538). In Marion County's info for 32162, there are 0. Some of the same zip codes show up in different counties. Sumter shows a zip code for Leesburg with 0 cases, while Lake shows the same zip code, 34748, with 28.
charmed59
04-22-2020, 01:44 PM
To me it looks like the 10 new cases in Sumter yesterday were all men in Bushnell. I suspect more numbers from the correctional facility there.
Hopeful2
04-22-2020, 02:39 PM
The Villages has 76 confirmed Coronavirus cases (as of Tuesday). The tri-county area has more than 500 confirmed cases to date.
It is critical to recognize the very high probability that every one of those people have passed it on to 2-3 people...who in turn, have passed it on ... and on ...exponentially. Many of those people are out and about in supermarkets, pharmacies, and in every corner of The Villages (even those that might not be Villages residents). The number of confirmed cases is only the tip of the iceberg, as testing has been woefully inadequate.
blueash
04-22-2020, 03:33 PM
The daily dashboard accessed from
Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/)
go to the bottom and find
Review case, monitoring and PUI information on the latest COVID-19 Daily Report.
See the report Click on See the report
It will take you to a new report each day.
Using Control F open a find search box or use the hand lens search icon
Enter The Villages
It will then highlight each entry for TV
Today
The Villages Sumter 68
The Villages Lake 7
Testing The Villages Regional Hospital 26 negative 5 positive
The results per lab are strange. Way too many labs are reporting 100% positive tests. Maybe they are only notifying their positives, which will skew the data, or maybe they are mis-reading results. But it is strange. Today page 20 to 31
Biocollection Worldwide : 1 neg 267 positive
Cape Coral Hospital Clinical Lab 1 neg 129 pos
Orlando Health 4 neg 117 pos
Quest Miramar 7 neg 106 pos
I have emailed the state but not received a reply. They probably have better things to do.
Velvet
04-22-2020, 03:55 PM
Several people have referenced an article in the WSJ regarding the coming surge of Covid-19 cases in the villages, so I decided to post a daily update on the surge. Since there is no separate reporting for the Villages specifically, I decided to combine the numbers from the 3 counties that include portions of the villages, as reported by the Daily Sun. It's not perfect, but its a pretty good representation of the overall trends in our part of central Florida.
As of today, we have 506 reported cases in Lake, Marion and Sumter county. Dividing by total deaths of 21 gives us a case fatality rate of 4.1%. That is higher that the state average of 3%, I assume in part due to the fact that Sumter county has the highest average age of any county in Florida, so a higher percentage of the population is at risk. On the other hand, it appears that the case fatality rate of new infections is much lower, possibly due to more widespread testing and better treatment.
Below is a breakdown of the trends.
New cases: 13, up 2.6% from the previous day
% infected: .058% of the population has been tested positive.
Total Fatalities: 21, there has been no change for the past 6 days.
% Fatalities: .00242% of the population in the tri-county area has died from C-19.
Odds you get infected: Based on the total number of cases, your odds of getting infected are 1,709 to 1. Based on the new infections, your odds are 66,538 to 1.
Odds you will die: Based on the total deaths of 21, your odds of dying from C-19 are about 41,190 to 1.
Again, those are based on total deaths. If you use yesterdays number of new cases as a baseline, and apply the 4.1% case fatality rate (observed), your odds of contacting the disease and dying from that infection are 1,632,075 to 1 on any given day in the Tri-county area. As a point of reference, the odds of getting hit by lightning in Florida are about 600,000 to 1.
In Sumter county, which may be a better proxy for the Villages, the observed case fatality rate is 6.7%, and new cases were up by 10 (6.1%) yesterday. Using the same math as above, your odds of contracting C-19 are 13,300 to 1 in Sumter county, and your odds of dying from the the disease are 198,507 to 1 on any given day, assuming 10 new cases per day. We'll see how tomorrow's numbers look, and I'll post an update then.
Stay safe and be reasonable.
DISAGREE with the odds because we do not know how many people are positive but have not been tested. And the death rate depends on age and any other vulnerability. Therefore any one individual’s odds could be much much higher than the odds calculated by OP.
miharris
04-22-2020, 05:02 PM
The Villages has 76 confirmed Coronavirus cases (as of Tuesday). The tri-county area has more than 500 confirmed cases to date.
It is critical to recognize the very high probability that every one of those people have passed it on to 2-3 people...who in turn, have passed it on ... and on ...exponentially. Many of those people are out and about in supermarkets, pharmacies, and in every corner of The Villages (even those that might not be Villages residents). The number of confirmed cases is only the tip of the iceberg, as testing has been woefully inadequate.
It's the same dynamic for every contagious disease, this is nothing new. If you are worried about the veracity of the number of reported cases, track the fatalities, those numbers are pretty reliable, since most medical experts agree when a person has expired.
miharris
04-22-2020, 05:24 PM
DISAGREE with the odds because we do not know how many people are positive but have not been tested. And the death rate depends on age and any other vulnerability. Therefore any one individual’s odds could be much much higher than the odds calculated by OP.
First of all, if we have a large population of positive but untested (and likely asymptomatic) individuals, the lower case fatality rate would largely offset the higher probability of infection. Secondly, the Sumter county numbers include an unusually high number of highly suseptable individuals, and that is reflected in the higher than average case fatality rate, as I noted in my post.
queasy27
04-22-2020, 05:26 PM
Sumter county has the highest average age of any county in Florida
As a point of pride, Sumter also has the highest average age in the entire U.S. (62.7 years, based on 2010 census data. Next highest county is 55.9).
I expect we'll retain our #1 standing when the 2020 data is calculated!
SharkHntr
04-22-2020, 06:24 PM
Be aware that the Sumter Correctional Institute has a large number of positive cases. It is located in zip code 33513. As of the time of this post, they have 42 inmates and 4 staff that are infected. I tried to include a link to the website, but my post was flagged by doing so.
The Prison in Coleman is a federal prison and is reported on a different website. It currently shows 1 inmate and 3 staff infected. I couldn't include a link to this website either.
Things aren't as bad in the community as the numbers make it appear.
Velvet
04-22-2020, 06:50 PM
It's the same dynamic for every contagious disease, this is nothing new. If you are worried about the veracity of the number of reported cases, track the fatalities, those numbers are pretty reliable, since most medical experts agree when a person has expired.
Nothing new? What is the definition of “novel” virus? Dead are dead but the age range and the proportional number of the dead are very relevant to a retirement community.
npwalters
04-22-2020, 08:46 PM
The Villages has 76 confirmed Coronavirus cases (as of Tuesday). The tri-county area has more than 500 confirmed cases to date.
It is critical to recognize the very high probability that every one of those people have passed it on to 2-3 people...who in turn, have passed it on ... and on ...exponentially. Many of those people are out and about in supermarkets, pharmacies, and in every corner of The Villages (even those that might not be Villages residents). The number of confirmed cases is only the tip of the iceberg, as testing has been woefully inadequate.
A study was done in a large California city testing for COVID19 antibodies to prove an individual had and recovered from COVID19. Basically there were believed to be about 80 people that were infected with COVID19 and recovered with no medical care for each person that was symptomatic and requiring medical attention. 80 to 1. You can find the data reported in several sources.
This is actually a good thing, assuming it is accurate and representative of the nation as a whole. It suggest the virus is MUCH more prevalent that previously known and MUCH less deadly than previously known.
So your theory the virus spreading " to 2-3 people...who in turn, have passed it on ... and on" is probably correct and yet is not nearly as dire as you seem to think. Until a vaccine can be administered (in about a year from now) herd immunity is what will eventually slow and then stop the virus.
Curious why you think developing a test for a previously unknown virus, producing it, distributing it, and administering it to 1 in 300 people in the US in a period of about 50 days is woefully inadequate. More needs to be done for sure but I for one am impressed with the effort to date.
Hopeful2
04-23-2020, 01:37 AM
It's the same dynamic for every contagious disease, this is nothing new. If you are worried about the veracity of the number of reported cases, track the fatalities, those numbers are pretty reliable, since most medical experts agree when a person has expired.
It is absolutely not the same dynamic for every contagious disease and that is precisely why the coronavirus, with its very high rate of contagion, has shut down almost every country in the world. The fatality rate speaks for itself and it continues to increase every day. With thousands of people dying, the sarcasm in your comment was unnecessary.
jksturgeon
04-23-2020, 05:07 AM
perhaps also there are deaths attributed to the virus that, in fact, may actually be from other causes?
MarkGoldberg
04-23-2020, 05:26 AM
Several people have referenced an article in the WSJ regarding the coming surge of Covid-19 cases in the villages, so I decided to post a daily update on the surge. Since there is no separate reporting for the Villages specifically, I decided to combine the numbers from the 3 counties that include portions of the villages, as reported by the Daily Sun. It's not perfect, but its a pretty good representation of the overall trends in our part of central Florida.
As of today, we have 506 reported cases in Lake, Marion and Sumter county. Dividing by total deaths of 21 gives us a case fatality rate of 4.1%. That is higher that the state average of 3%, I assume in part due to the fact that Sumter county has the highest average age of any county in Florida, so a higher percentage of the population is at risk. On the other hand, it appears that the case fatality rate of new infections is much lower, possibly due to more widespread testing and better treatment.
Below is a breakdown of the trends.
New cases: 13, up 2.6% from the previous day
% infected: .058% of the population has been tested positive.
Total Fatalities: 21, there has been no change for the past 6 days.
% Fatalities: .00242% of the population in the tri-county area has died from C-19.
Odds you get infected: Based on the total number of cases, your odds of getting infected are 1,709 to 1. Based on the new infections, your odds are 66,538 to 1.
Odds you will die: Based on the total deaths of 21, your odds of dying from C-19 are about 41,190 to 1.
Again, those are based on total deaths. If you use yesterdays number of new cases as a baseline, and apply the 4.1% case fatality rate (observed), your odds of contacting the disease and dying from that infection are 1,632,075 to 1 on any given day in the Tri-county area. As a point of reference, the odds of getting hit by lightning in Florida are about 600,000 to 1.
In Sumter county, which may be a better proxy for the Villages, the observed case fatality rate is 6.7%, and new cases were up by 10 (6.1%) yesterday. Using the same math as above, your odds of contracting C-19 are 13,300 to 1 in Sumter county, and your odds of dying from the the disease are 198,507 to 1 on any given day, assuming 10 new cases per day. We'll see how tomorrow's numbers look, and I'll post an update then.
Stay safe and be reasonable.
Thanks for this clear picture. I look forward to seeing the numbers each day. Personally, I feel that May 25th we are going to see a spike after they begin to open things up on May 4th. People are going to act like overnight the switch was pulled and the pandemic cured. It’s not.
Rsenholzi
04-23-2020, 05:58 AM
Not if you are one of the 21
Shadia328
04-23-2020, 06:00 AM
Thank you, very interesting.
Vstar3471@gmail.com
04-23-2020, 06:06 AM
Excellent information. Thank you
Bikeracer2009
04-23-2020, 06:39 AM
Some testing in California suggests 25 percent more people are infected than the infection rate suggests because they're not having symptoms and didn't get tested.
Great to see someone track this in the villages. Thanks for doing this!
Eg_cruz
04-23-2020, 07:08 AM
I wonder when they are done testing the nursing homes and assisted living how that will change the numbers
davem4616
04-23-2020, 07:10 AM
there's a covid-19 virus out there...it's still spreading...there is no vaccine as of yet...the risk to older folks is higher than to others, yeah, there's a lot of people anxious to get out and do the things that they used to do....
don't become obsessed with statistics, graphs and charts...just use your head, take control of your life back, and play it safe
npwalters
04-23-2020, 07:23 AM
Thanks for this clear picture. I look forward to seeing the numbers each day. Personally, I feel that May 25th we are going to see a spike after they begin to open things up on May 4th. People are going to act like overnight the switch was pulled and the pandemic cured. It’s not.
It is reasonable to expect a small bump in numbers - not a spike - following business opening up. That is going to happen if we reopen next week or 2 months from now.
MOMOH
04-23-2020, 07:23 AM
FROM MY FRIEND THE DOCTOR:
Is it safe to "open up" the economy?
Gregory Katz
Apr 22
I’ve been getting this question over and over again. Ending the lockdown is a constant topic of discussion. How do we make a decision about when it’s safe to restart our lives?
To start, my general impression is that the idea of “opening the economy” is something of a false premise. Yes, governmental restrictions play a role in what people do, but if people don’t feel safe going out in public, economic activity is only going to be a fraction of what it was before the pandemic. The individual choices that people for themselves make are going to determine our collective economic path forward more than any mandate from above.
I’m not going to pretend that I’m an expert on modeling the spread of infectious diseases or simulating the death rates without social distancing in place. I’m not an epidemiologist. This isn’t a post about how we model rates of infection and calculate an R0 for SARS-CoV-2 in order to estimate total deaths and intubated patients so that we can compare those numbers to the potential economic damage to guide our path forward.
How I think about the risk here
I’m a doctor. I know how to talk to my patients to help each individual personalize his or her own decision making. This is a post on how I would advise a patient of mine to think about their own personal choices - and those of their family members - with regards to getting back to normal life.
As a physician, it’s usually easy to tell people what to do. When it comes to most of the diseases I treat, I think about the data underlying different possible outcomes in order to make appropriate therapeutic decisions.
For example, a common medical problem I see is atrial fibrillation, an irregular heart beat that increases risk of stroke. To decide on the need for a blood thinner in these patients, I calculate the annual risk of stroke based on well validated data that is applicable to my patient. Once we have the numbers, our discussion can be personalized with an individual’s own approximate risk of a stroke and the approximate amount that a blood thinner reduces that risk.
Everyone has a different method of calculating their own personal risk/benefit analysis. But it’s a lot easier when you have some numbers to help estimate your own risk, even if those numbers are just approximations.
So what do the numbers look like in COVID-19?
The difficult thing with COVID is that we really don’t have the right type of information to help each person make his or her own decision (I’d argue we don’t have that information on a societal level to make policy determinations, but again, I’m not an epidemiologist).
Not to say that we don’t have data in COVID. We have approximate risk of death once someone is sick enough to come to medical attention, a number that is called the case fatality rate, or CFR. Depending on which dataset - and which population - you look at, the number ranges from about 0.3-3.5% (this being an average risk across age ranges, with higher risk in older folks and lower risk in younger ones).
When you think about it like those are the actual numbers, the risk/benefit calculation is straightforward, even if the resulting decision-making for each person may be difficult.
The problem is that we don’t really know how often people who get infected end up with symptoms of disease to warrant seeking medical care because we don’t have widespread testing across the asymptomatic population. If the overall prevalence of infection across our population is already 50%, it means that a lot fewer people who get infected are sick enough to warrant medical care than if only 5% of our population has been infected.
In some diseases, almost everyone who is infected gets sick. That doesn’t seem to be the case in COVID-19. So even if we know quite a bit about the CFR, we know very little about the infected fatality rate, termed the IFR (the number of people who die among all of those who are infected, not just among those sick enough to get tested).
I don’t envision a scenario in which I can have any type of coherent and personalized risk/benefit discussion with a patient when there’s this much of a range in possible risk. We are talking about a potential order of magnitude difference about how sick you might get.
Can you give me an example?
Let’s take a 70 year old man with no medical problems:
If the IFR is essentially identical to the CFR, our hypothetical patient is looking at an approximately 8% chance of death if he gets infected
But if the IFR is 1/10 the CFR - meaning that only 1 in 10 patients who are infected have a positive test results and become a “case,” that risk of death for our patient drops to approximately 0.8%.
That same 70 year old man coming into the hospital with a minor heart attack also has a risk of death of about 8%
Across society, the amount of morbidity and mortality even at a low range of estimates means an almost indescribable amount of pain and suffering. But for each individual trying to decide whether to go back to work, to go to the grocery store, or even to see family, this degree of variation could mean the difference between staying at home in isolation versus going about a quasi-normal life.
So what should I do?
The point of an exercise like this is that there isn’t a blanket recommendation for everyone. This is about understanding your personalized risk - a risk that’s reasonable for me might not be one that’s reasonable for you.
One person can look at a CFR of 8% and think, “there’s no way that I’ll go back to my regular life if there’s a 1 in 12 chance I die if I get infected. Why would take the chance of catching an infection that could be as deadly as a heart attack?”
But you might look at it and say, “I need to get back to the office and I need to see my family, so I’ll take my chances with a 92% likelihood of survival. Plus there’s a chance that the numbers are wrong and my likelihood of dying is much lower than that.”
The more clarity we have with our numbers, the more accurate we can feel about these estimates. As it stands now, there’s still a lot of uncertainty and all of the numbers above must be viewed with a grain of salt.
I’m hopeful that we will get to the point where we aren’t flying so blindly. But until we have more information, I am going to assume that the numbers are on the pessimistic side when I counsel my patients. It’s up to all of us to assess our own personal risk, and the better our testing is, the more comfortable we feel that we’re making those assessments based on reality instead of hope.
Joanne19335
04-23-2020, 07:24 AM
Nothing new? What is the definition of “novel” virus? Dead are dead but the age range and the proportional number of the dead are very relevant to a retirement community.
When used in context with the coronavirus, the word “novel“ means new. It also means there is no cure. I suspect it will be one year to 18 months before there is a vaccine. Whether or not the villages reopens and we are back to “normal“, I will continue to do what I am doing now. I am not looking forward to a new rash of cases next fall when the flu season begins.
bumpygreens
04-23-2020, 07:32 AM
MOMOH, how many of his patients expired while listening to the doctor's risk assessment?
Jacob85
04-23-2020, 07:36 AM
No matter how you spin it this virus is very contagious and our population is very vulnerable. If we had more testing we would know the real story.
JulieER
04-23-2020, 07:38 AM
Several people have referenced an article in the WSJ regarding the coming surge of Covid-19 cases in the villages, so I decided to post a daily update on the surge. Since there is no separate reporting for the Villages specifically, I decided to combine the numbers from the 3 counties that include portions of the villages, as reported by the Daily Sun. It's not perfect, but its a pretty good representation of the overall trends in our part of central Florida.
As of today, we have 506 reported cases in Lake, Marion and Sumter county. Dividing by total deaths of 21 gives us a case fatality rate of 4.1%. That is higher that the state average of 3%, I assume in part due to the fact that Sumter county has the highest average age of any county in Florida, so a higher percentage of the population is at risk. On the other hand, it appears that the case fatality rate of new infections is much lower, possibly due to more widespread testing and better treatment.
Below is a breakdown of the trends.
New cases: 13, up 2.6% from the previous day
% infected: .058% of the population has been tested positive.
Total Fatalities: 21, there has been no change for the past 6 days.
% Fatalities: .00242% of the population in the tri-county area has died from C-19.
Odds you get infected: Based on the total number of cases, your odds of getting infected are 1,709 to 1. Based on the new infections, your odds are 66,538 to 1.
Odds you will die: Based on the total deaths of 21, your odds of dying from C-19 are about 41,190 to 1.
Again, those are based on total deaths. If you use yesterdays number of new cases as a baseline, and apply the 4.1% case fatality rate (observed), your odds of contacting the disease and dying from that infection are 1,632,075 to 1 on any given day in the Tri-county area. As a point of reference, the odds of getting hit by lightning in Florida are about 600,000 to 1.
In Sumter county, which may be a better proxy for the Villages, the observed case fatality rate is 6.7%, and new cases were up by 10 (6.1%) yesterday. Using the same math as above, your odds of contracting C-19 are 13,300 to 1 in Sumter county, and your odds of dying from the the disease are 198,507 to 1 on any given day, assuming 10 new cases per day. We'll see how tomorrow's numbers look, and I'll post an update then.
Stay safe and be reasonable.
I would say the odds are geared to healthy people. Add underlying conditions and odds won’t be as favorable for us oldsters.
JulieER
04-23-2020, 07:44 AM
There are more than 900,000 people living in the three counties, TV is a small percentage of those people. 21 deaths out of 900,000 looks pretty good to me. I believe there are records of how many deaths in TV, last I read a few days ago was 9.
Not enough testing to really know how many there will eventually be. Community spread is unknown since 25% asymptomatic. And the new home testing kits are only about 82-87% accurate. I believe the death rate will go up over time as more and more people get infected unless we hold to social distancing and sanitize constantly.
Golf2020
04-23-2020, 08:17 AM
Hannity Fox news last night and the Governor of Florida...”The Villagers have it right.” Social distancing....
sloanst
04-23-2020, 08:33 AM
Let me make this simple. We can not harm the many to save the few. If I get Corona, I have a 50% chance of dying. I am over 65 and have mild COPD. That puts me in the danger area. That being said, I have lived a full life and if this is my fate, then so be it. But to expect so many younger than I, fighting for their American dream for themselves and their kids, to be put on hold at best and decimated at worst, is the height of selfishness. I will do what I can to protect myself, but I will not request anyone else to sacrifice for my sake. We have done our part to build this world into what it is. We should not be parasites of it in our December years.
pmken2
04-23-2020, 10:07 AM
And I saw on Village News that less than 50% of the Sumter County cases are Villagers.
ValSetz
04-23-2020, 10:29 AM
Are some of those deaths at the two assisted/Alzheimer
care facilities? Could skew the percentages.
Velvet
04-23-2020, 10:58 AM
Let me make this simple. We can not harm the many to save the few. If I get Corona, I have a 50% chance of dying. I am over 65 and have mild COPD. That puts me in the danger area. That being said, I have lived a full life and if this is my fate, then so be it. But to expect so many younger than I, fighting for their American dream for themselves and their kids, to be put on hold at best and decimated at worst, is the height of selfishness. I will do what I can to protect myself, but I will not request anyone else to sacrifice for my sake. We have done our part to build this world into what it is. We should not be parasites of it in our December years.
I will agree with you when it is the many that are dying. Are we like animals which let their old die?
Inexes@aol.com
04-23-2020, 11:35 AM
The daily dashboard accessed from
Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/)
go to the bottom and find
Review case, monitoring and PUI information on the latest COVID-19 Daily Report.
See the report Click on See the report
It will take you to a new report each day.
Using Control F open a find search box or use the hand lens search icon
Enter The Villages
It will then highlight each entry for TV
Today
The Villages Sumter 68
The Villages Lake 7
Testing The Villages Regional Hospital 26 negative 5 positive
The results per lab are strange. Way too many labs are reporting 100% positive tests. Maybe they are only notifying their positives, which will skew the data, or maybe they are mis-reading results. But it is strange. Today page 20 to 31
Biocollection Worldwide : 1 neg 267 positive
Cape Coral Hospital Clinical Lab 1 neg 129 pos
Orlando Health 4 neg 117 pos
Quest Miramar 7 neg 106 pos
I have emailed the state but not received a reply. They probably have better things to do.
To save this endless posting of suppositions , follow blueash's recommendation. Click on the link provided, scroll down to "DASHBOARD", download to your computer and you will have instant access to all the facts and figures you could want about this virus. Thank you, blueash. I have been using the dashboard for weeks, lol.
pcacace
04-23-2020, 12:00 PM
Are you counting the prison which is in Sumter county but not the villages?
yankygrl
04-23-2020, 03:59 PM
I believe there a 4 deaths who are actual Villagers, Carol Lynch I think was the first. There are 2 men both over 75, I think actually in 80's and Debbie Butler who was 67.
Lindamct
04-23-2020, 05:44 PM
Passing to 2-3 people is not very scientific...we are not seeing those numbers. The day before yesterday it went up 10, possibly the prison was tested. Yesterday only 1.
I think the reason people are not excited by the fact that we have had 0 deaths in a week is they are so addicted by drama and bad news. It's funny, you tell someone this and they stare at you like a deer.
Our media has done us an injustice. The WSJ article was written to scare a lot of old people that are already scared. We live in the best place in the world! I hope they let us keep living🇺🇲
Halibut
04-23-2020, 06:40 PM
No matter how you spin it this virus is very contagious and our population is very vulnerable. If we had more testing we would know the real story.
I agree that more testing would go a long way towards lifting the cloud of confusion and uncertainty. I'm hopeful that accurate quick-result home tests will be available by the end of the year.
Overall, I'm more optimistic than I was because our area to date has not had an overwhelming number of cases. Whether or not that number will rise with restrictions gradually being lifted remains to be seen, but my wife and I will nonetheless remain quietly at home until testing is widely available and new daily infections are at zero.
I am very grateful that we're living in a time of food/grocery delivery services and online ordering!
Lindamct
04-23-2020, 06:55 PM
Nothing new? What is the definition of “novel” virus? Dead are dead but the age range and the proportional number of the dead are very relevant to a retirement community.
I am 60 with moderate to severe asthma. I will gladly take my own preventable measures and give the healthy kids and children their lives back. I thought we at the Villages we're proud to be Americans. This is Marshall law and it's hurting our country and children. Are we too old to be logical, look at the real numbers and fight for what we believe? Fear destroys logic and faith. Hey, remember nobody is getting out of this alive. I have had a good life and love the Villages. Oh yeah and really miss pickleball 🇺🇸
talleyjm
04-23-2020, 11:01 PM
Hi, I have read about the two women but not the two men. Do you know if one of the men was on a pickle ball team? I read about him being hospitalized in Leesburg and nothing more. Thanks.
Mendy
04-24-2020, 12:10 AM
In my opinion, without a meaningful number of tests, the numbers mean very little (except for the deaths). As the antibody tests roll out, I’m sure it will show at least 15-20% of the population likely was infected. Let’s hope everyone is smart and wears a mask when out in public near others.
Love2Swim
04-24-2020, 05:14 AM
I've been looking at the Dashboard results for weeks. Its very noticeable that the number of COVID cases reported is aligned with the number of tests they've completed. On days where less tests were given, there were less infections reported and vice versa. Unless the country gets a good handle on testing we won't adequately contain the spread or be able to track the people that have come into contact with infected persons. Its that simple.
ficoguy
04-24-2020, 07:11 AM
COUNTY POPULATION CASES DEATHS % FATAL
LAKE 356,945 217 9 4%
SUMTER 132,420 166 12 7%
MARION 365,579 145 3 2%
TOTAL 854,944 528 24 5%
Prison cases are a factor in Sumter and Lake Counties to an extent
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