Postal Stations

[Fisherman]

Post Closed

[vintageogauge]

I believe all of your questions have been addressed in one of the 1,314 dog poop topics that have been posted here.

[golfing eagles]

Please do not post an answer unless this pertains to you and you can give me the logic behind why this is a common practice that you do. I do not want to hear “we go again”.....
First, I love dogs, have had many, man’s best friend
1. Why do you drive your car or cart up to the postal center to do their business and for no other purpose. I see the same people do this three or four times a day.
2. Why is it that you come to get your mail and get your dog out of your cart or car to do their business?
3. Why do you drive your cart and let the dog try to keep up with you along the street knowing you can not get out and pick up the business?
4. Why don’t you walk your dog to do their business in your own yard?

I am perfectly okay with people walking their dogs in the neighborhoods and am even acceptive if they have to do business ( you never know when nature is going to call) in my yard, as long as they pick it up. We all need exercise and fresh air, our pets included.

Am anxious to hear only from those that use the above as a common practice. If you do not have anything nice to say with a logical explanation, please do not post. My understanding is that the postal center is for a place to pick up your mail, socialize with neighbors and enjoy the amenities adjacent such as shuffleboard etc. They are amenities provided and paid for by the residents, they are not dog parks.
Thank you.

Well, that is the most optimistic expectation I've ever seen on TOTV. You don't really think you'll get nothing but logical and polite responses? Here, on TOTV????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Full disclosure---I don't walk my dog at postal stations. (OOPS, based on your criteria, I shouldn't have posted. So sorry.)

[karostay]

Free world....

[Fredster]

This is from the VCDD website...

“Pet Owners
Please be considerate of others and all properties. Dog owners are responsible for picking up after their pets. Please take all waste home for disposal. Do not use storm drains, postal or recreation facilities for disposing of solid waste or plastic bags. In addition, please follow all county ordinances including all dogs are required to be on a leash. “

[Polar Bear]

Dogs and dog owners who are following the rules...specified in previous reply...have as much right at the mail station as you do.

[VApeople]

If you don't like seeing dogs at the postal stations, move to the Southern area south of 44. In those neighborhoods, dogs are banned from all of the postal stations.

[Number 10 GI]

If you don't like seeing dogs at the postal stations, move to the Southern area south of 44. In those neighborhoods, dogs are banned from all of the postal stations.

Is this meant to be satire?

[fdpaq0580]

Golfingeagles, you are so right. The bait was too tempting. At the time I started this reply there were 4 posts after yours. One was what seemed like a snarky come back.
Next a simple reply of VCDD request. Then came two responses that seemed rather aggressive.
It seems like the poor OP may never get a civil, honest answer to a civil, simple question.

[golfing eagles]

So, 217 views, 5 posts. I guess these are the guilty ones that don’t have an answer other than they are entitled to do whatever they want. Except for one, the other replies are sarcastic, mean, disrespectful, childhood mentality, can not follow instructions, lawful quotes like they know it all.... chastising a longtime Villager that was curious about what obviously is a huge problem here. Thank you for reminding me of how many nasty people there are out in this world, even in a time when kindness and respect are the what we all need.

Yep, basically what I told you to expect. And I did apologize for not "following instructions"

[coffeebean]

If you don't like seeing dogs at the postal stations, move to the Southern area south of 44. In those neighborhoods, dogs are banned from all of the postal stations.

Is this really true? What if pet owners want to take a stroll with their pets and pass the mail station on their way home. They can not pick up their mail if they have their dog with them?

[golfing eagles]

Golfingeagles, you are so right. The bait was too tempting. At the time I started this reply there were 4 posts after yours. One was what seemed like a snarky come back.
Next a simple reply of VCDD request. Then came two responses that seemed rather aggressive.
It seems like the poor OP may never get a civil, honest answer to a civil, simple question.

As expected:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But not really a simple question. Reading between the lines, the OP would appear to dislike dogs being walked at the postal stations. He then goes on to challenge those dog owners to give an explanation, with a set of HIS rules to respond. I doubt the group that walks their dogs at the mailboxes would consider that a "civil question(s)" He then gave another set of HIS rules to exclude non-postal station dog walkers from replying. I was unaware that a poster could define the rules of TOTV. If he was truly looking to get a legitimate answer, there are much better ways to word the question. Perhaps "I notice some dog owners walk their dogs at the postal stations and some don't . Can people explain why they do or do not walk their dogs there?" I also think it was sort of naïve for "a long time Villager" to expect 50,000+ members of TOTV to abide by HIS rules.

But perhaps the reality of TOTV was too harsh for someone with 12 posts in 8 years, maybe I should have worded this better

[VApeople]

If you don't like seeing dogs at the postal stations, move to the Southern area south of 44. In those neighborhoods, dogs are banned from all of the postal stations.

Is this meant to be satire?

No.

Go to any postal station in The Villages south of 44. You will see a sign showing a leashed dog with a line through it.

That means dogs are forbidden at that postal station.

[VApeople]

Is this really true? What if pet owners want to take a stroll with their pets and pass the mail station on their way home. They can not pick up their mail if they have their dog with them?

That's right. Dogs are not allowed at the postal stations. Read the signs.

[Silver Streak]

Hm, I guess I sort of almost fit the parameters of the rules laid down by the OP... First, NO it's not true that the neighborhoods south of 44 ban dogs from the postal areas. Where did you hear/see that? Second, when we walk the dog to the postal station to get our mail (maybe 1-2 times a week, in lieu of walking her around the block like we usually do), she occasionally does her business there. We pick it up and dispose of it at home in the little can with a lid we keep in the garage for that purpose between track pickups. Perhaps there are people who go to the postal stations JUST so their dogs can do their business, but that's something I've never seen. Not that I spend a lot of time hanging out at the postal station.

There. Civil enough?

[coffeebean]

That's right. Dogs are not allowed at the postal stations. Read the signs.

I don't live down south. Was just wondering. Thanks.

[BobnBev]

As expected:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But not really a simple question. Reading between the lines, the OP would appear to dislike dogs being walked at the postal stations. He then goes on to challenge those dog owners to give an explanation, with a set of HIS rules to respond. I doubt the group that walks their dogs at the mailboxes would consider that a "civil question(s)" He then gave another set of HIS rules to exclude non-postal station dog walkers from replying. I was unaware that a poster could define the rules of TOTV. If he was truly looking to get a legitimate answer, there are much better ways to word the question. Perhaps "I notice some dog owners walk their dogs at the postal stations and some don't . Can people explain why they do or do not walk their dogs there?" I also think it was sort of naïve for "a long time Villager" to expect 50,000+ members of TOTV to abide by HIS rules.

But perhaps the reality of TOTV was too harsh for someone with 12 posts in 8 years, maybe I should have worded this better

Seems like the OP is entitled to make his own rules, and make them our rules. Wishful thinking on his part. Oh well, I don't have a dog in this fight, Oh, wait,what?. I don't even have a dog.:doggie:

[VApeople]

NO it's not true that the neighborhoods south of 44 ban dogs from the postal areas. Where did you hear/see that?

You are wrong.

Read the sign at your postal station. Dogs are banned.

[JoMar]

That's right. Dogs are not allowed at the postal stations. Read the signs.

Then the question of enforcement has to be asked.

[VApeople]

Then the question of enforcement has to be asked.

Yeah, some people only follow rules if they are enforced by the authorities.

Other people adhere to posted rules because they believe it is the right thing to do in their communities.

[dewilson58]

Please do not post an answer unless this pertains to you and you can give me the logic behind why this is a common practice that you do. I do not want to hear “we go again”.....
First, I love dogs, have had many, man’s best friend
1. Why do you drive your car or cart up to the postal center to do their business and for no other purpose. I see the same people do this three or four times a day.
2. Why is it that you come to get your mail and get your dog out of your cart or car to do their business?
3. Why do you drive your cart and let the dog try to keep up with you along the street knowing you can not get out and pick up the business?
4. Why don’t you walk your dog to do their business in your own yard?

I am perfectly okay with people walking their dogs in the neighborhoods and am even acceptive if they have to do business ( you never know when nature is going to call) in my yard, as long as they pick it up. We all need exercise and fresh air, our pets included.

Am anxious to hear only from those that use the above as a common practice. If you do not have anything nice to say with a logical explanation, please do not post. My understanding is that the postal center is for a place to pick up your mail, socialize with neighbors and enjoy the amenities adjacent such as shuffleboard etc. They are amenities provided and paid for by the residents, they are not dog parks.
Thank you.


Well there you go....................Lots of good answers.


:1rotfl:

[Number 10 GI]

You are wrong.

Read the sign at your postal station. Dogs are banned.

Do you live south of 44? I do and I go to the Willow Tree mail station every day and there are no such signs there, never have been. I just got back from driving to 5 mail stations in Fenney, De Soto, McClure, and Monarch Grove, there are NO signs there like you describe. I did not drive to Marsh Bend as this was a fool's errand. Who told you there were signs?

[rustyp]

I love it day 41. A dog poop thread prequalified with rules.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[TimeForChange]

I do not take my dog to the postal station but to the pool area in back of the pool and to the parking lot grass area way out side of the pool itself. If he relieves himself I pick it up. There are no signs. There are hundreds of places with no signs like anywhere on the side of the road:boxing2:. I then put my dog back on the cart and go get my mail. If you don't like this then go live some where else or get use to it .

[VApeople]

Do you live south of 44? I do and I go to the Willow Tree mail station every day and there are no such signs there, never have been.

It has been about a year since we were at Willow Tree. At that time, there was a sign showing that dogs were prohibited. I will drive by tomorrow to see if the sign is still there.

[vintageogauge]

Do you live south of 44? I do and I go to the Willow Tree mail station every day and there are no such signs there, never have been. I just got back from driving to 5 mail stations in Fenney, De Soto, McClure, and Monarch Grove, there are NO signs there like you describe. I did not drive to Marsh Bend as this was a fool's errand. Who told you there were signs?

There is a sign at the McClure station but it is to the right where you would go in to play Bocce or Corn Toss I don't believe it applies to the sidewalk or the mail box area it is to keep them off the playing area.

[VApeople]

I go to the Willow Tree mail station every day and there are no such signs there, never have been.

OK, I could not resist driving down to Willow Tree to get a picture of the sign. At the bottom of the sign, there is a drawing of a dog with a line through it.

[anothersteve]

OK, I could not resist driving down to Willow Tree to get a picture of the sign. At the bottom of the sign, there is a drawing of a dog with a line through it.

C'mon that just means no dogs on leashes allowed! :rolleyes:

Steve

[Number 10 GI]

OK, I could not resist driving down to Willow Tree to get a picture of the sign. At the bottom of the sign, there is a drawing of a dog with a line through it.

This sign is at the entrance to the shuffleboard area. It also prohibits bicyclists, golf carts, and smoking. Does not pertain to the postal station. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to drive your cart or bicycle there to pick up your mail.

[VApeople]

Does not pertain to the postal station.

I guess we need a person of authority to decide that.

[EdFNJ]

No.

Go to any postal station in The Villages south of 44. You will see a sign showing a leashed dog with a line through it.

That means dogs are forbidden at that postal station.


Hmmm, I thought that line through it meant they changed their mind and to ignore the sign.

[Two Bills]

Can we do roundabouts next, or even stickers?

[golfing eagles]

Can we do roundabouts next, or even stickers?

Or seat saving or 8 inch garden gnomes???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[George Page]

Ok, here is a “logical explanation”:

- You say: “I am perfectly okay with people walking their dogs in the neighborhoods”

- ‘Postal centers’ are in the ‘neighborhoods’

- Therefore, one can walk their dog at the postal centers.

YOU ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION!

[NormaKW]

That is interesting. Banned at postal stations.. wonder why?

[tsmall22204]

The answer to your questions are simple. NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

[WesMan]

Please do not post an answer unless this pertains to you and you can give me the logic behind why this is a common practice that you do. I do not want to hear “we go again”.....
First, I love dogs, have had many, man’s best friend
1. Why do you drive your car or cart up to the postal center to do their business and for no other purpose. I see the same people do this three or four times a day.
2. Why is it that you come to get your mail and get your dog out of your cart or car to do their business?
3. Why do you drive your cart and let the dog try to keep up with you along the street knowing you can not get out and pick up the business?
4. Why don’t you walk your dog to do their business in your own yard?

I am perfectly okay with people walking their dogs in the neighborhoods and am even acceptive if they have to do business ( you never know when nature is going to call) in my yard, as long as they pick it up. We all need exercise and fresh air, our pets included.

Am anxious to hear only from those that use the above as a common practice. If you do not have anything nice to say with a logical explanation, please do not post. My understanding is that the postal center is for a place to pick up your mail, socialize with neighbors and enjoy the amenities adjacent such as shuffleboard etc. They are amenities provided and paid for by the residents, they are not dog parks.
Thank you.
You are totally correct!!!!!!

[mrf6969]

90% of the mail we get now days is trash. In this day and age we do bills and most transactions on line.
We could do very easily with mail delivery once or twice a week. This way we will not have all the traffic at the mail houses with all this worry and concern that comes with picking up the mail.
The USPS loses billion$ every year but that is a whole different subject.

[erojohn]

If you want an answer to a specific question/questions from the same individual you see at the postal station stop the individual and ask the question face to face. I’m sure you will get an answer. Probably not the one you are looking for. Man up.

[Regor]

I guess people like to walk their dogs where the dog gets to walk in all kinds of crap then have it jump up in their cart or on their laps!http://allowe.com/images/gallery/sightgags/PickItUp.jpg

[arbajeda]

If you stop and think for a moment you can come up with several reasonable choices. Irresponsible pet owners. Cleaning up is distasteful and they don't want to do it. Not in their yard. At least it's not anyone's yard. Entitlement. Any or all of these could apply. But you're on a fools errand if you are looking for a serious answer on this forum. Like Spiro Agnew characterized, the majority are "nattering nabobs of negativism."

[DecaturFargo]

I believe people take their dogs to beautiful open spaces as we all pay amenity fees that include open spaces. Currently, dog parks are closed. I don't go to dog parks because there are too many people and dogs and my dog gets distracted by other dogs. We do walk our dog in our neighborhood as well. And we always pick up his poop and discard it back home. Those areas also allow a dog, on leash, to run a bit, something they really can't do on a walk in a neighborhood or in their own yard. Those areas are for everyone's pleasure.

[Boblib68]

Dog parks closed

[coffeebean]

OK, I could not resist driving down to Willow Tree to get a picture of the sign. At the bottom of the sign, there is a drawing of a dog with a line through it.

Is it possible there are people who don't understand what a picture of something (such as a dog) with a line through it means? Just a thought.

[VApeople]

That is interesting. Banned at postal stations.. wonder why?

Probably because some people complained about dogs crapping in the grass areas of the postal stations north of Route 44. When they started building the new areas, TV management decided to ban dogs from the recreation areas like Willow Tree.

Since the mail boxes are within the recreation areas, I guess that means you cannot have your dog with you when you go to check your mail.

[PennBF]

It is disgusting to see a dog owner walk his/her dog at the Postal stations and to also allow them to do their business on someone else's property.We had a dog for years and would never allow it. Don't the challenged dog owners know they also carry diseases and
this spreads them. As I say there is no cure for "stupid". No way will these notes convince them to stop but rather cause them to be more aggressive. Just look at some of the responses to this thread. Enough said. :ohdear:

[chenault55]

I really do understand the writers stance on the subject but unfortunately most people don’t want other people’s pets doing that business in their yards. All day and night wild animals and birds are also doing their business at will so for me as long as the owners pick up and dispose of the waste at their own home I don’t see the issue well, except for the ones are that won’t pick it up😤

[gwenhwalker@yahoo.com]

In the heat streets are too hot so grass at post office is a cool and convenient place

[Bill1701]

That's right. Dogs are not allowed at the postal stations. Read the signs.

Well, there is a sign at the Preserve saying no dogs are allowed. It had to be closed because so many people were taking their dogs there and not cleaning up.

[jedalton]

Please do not post an answer unless this pertains to you and you can give me the logic behind why this is a common practice that you do. I do not want to hear “we go again”.....
First, I love dogs, have had many, man’s best friend
1. Why do you drive your car or cart up to the postal center to do their business and for no other purpose. I see the same people do this three or four times a day.
2. Why is it that you come to get your mail and get your dog out of your cart or car to do their business?
3. Why do you drive your cart and let the dog try to keep up with you along the street knowing you can not get out and pick up the business?
4. Why don’t you walk your dog to do their business in your own yard?

good questions

I am perfectly okay with people walking their dogs in the neighborhoods and am even acceptive if they have to do business ( you never know when nature is going to call) in my yard, as long as they pick it up. We all need exercise and fresh air, our pets included.

Am anxious to hear only from those that use the above as a common practice. If you do not have anything nice to say with a logical explanation, please do not post. My understanding is that the postal center is for a place to pick up your mail, socialize with neighbors and enjoy the amenities adjacent such as shuffleboard etc. They are amenities provided and paid for by the residents, they are not dog parks.
Thank you.
good questions, I have asked myself these questions on many occasions

[karostay]

[QUOTE=VApeople;1754621]No.

Go to any postal station in The Villages south of 44. You will see a sign showing a leashed dog with a line through it.


I have Chihuahua can't :read: English

[justjim]

No.

Go to any postal station in The Villages south of 44. You will see a sign showing a leashed dog with a line through it.

That means dogs are forbidden at that postal station.

Always wondered why houses sell so quickly south of 44. Thanks for the no dogs at postal station tip. Shirley, start packing!

[Dlbonivich]

I have 5 lb dog whose feet burn on the cement and hates other dogs, I think the mail station is the perfect place for his exercise. We walk behind and near the pond. I pick up his poop and take it home. He lives to go on the cart and get a change of scenery and smells from his own yard. I live here pay taxes and follow the rules, so why not! I think some people need to mind their own business. If you don’t want to share common space move to an island

[McGyver9]

I don't understand why people get SO bent out of shape over dogs?
Didn't your dad let you have one, or something?

As long as people pick up after them, what the hell is the big deal?
How is letting my dog get a little freedom/exercise HURTING anyone?
As stated previously, dog parks are closed and the yards here are tiny..

If your "complaint" is simply about "rules" bet you roll through stop signs, speed, don't use your blinker.....have a white cross..well, probably NOT on that one...


Some people don't have anything REAL to worry about....

[BostonRich]

Why does this bother you anyway? What you are at the postal station for a minute picking up your mail and then you leave? There are more important issues.

[Earlride]

1. How are you able to see multiple people do this four times a day - are you a postal station stalker?
2. After any car or cart ride, maybe due to nerves, my dog needs to pee or poop (I pick it up always)
3. If my dog was riding beside my cart, perhaps to give him exercise the driver is unable to - the dog isn't going to poop/pee at a full run. He will do it when the run ends and then they can pick it up.
4. Dogs peeing in your own yard will usually go to the same place every time and that can eventually kill the grass.

[vintageogauge]

[QUOTE=VApeople;1754621]No.

Go to any postal station in The Villages south of 44. You will see a sign showing a leashed dog with a line through it.


I have Chihuahua can't :read: English

I don't believe there is a sign at the Fenney west station as it is not near the pickle ball, bocce, or corn toss courts, etc..

[coffeebean]

I have 5 lb dog whose feet burn on the cement and hates other dogs, I think the mail station is the perfect place for his exercise. We walk behind and near the pond. I pick up his poop and take it home. He lives to go on the cart and get a change of scenery and smells from his own yard. I live here pay taxes and follow the rules, so why not! I think some people need to mind their own business. If you don’t want to share common space move to an island

I don't understand why pet owners can't let their dogs relieve themselves on their own property THEN take them to the postal station or where ever they want to go for a walk and get exercise.

We don't have a dog now but were dog owners for 32 years (2 different dogs). I never, ever took my dogs out anywhere to relieve themselves other than the potty area on our property. I walked them on their leashes to an area I prepared for them. This area was surrounded by bricks or pavers and I put soft shredded mulch in the area. This was super comfortable for their paws. I replenished the mulch to maintain a nice potty area for them

When we took walks, I always carried a bag to pick up after them. I never knew when the urge would strike them even after they had pooped in their prepared potty area on our own property. That rarely happened but at least, I was prepared. Marking their spot with urine, however, always happened on the walks. Male dogs!

[Engine12]

OK, I could not resist driving down to Willow Tree to get a picture of the sign. At the bottom of the sign, there is a drawing of a dog with a line through it.

Wow ! You can’t ride your bike or drive your golf cart to get your mail either, glad we live north of 44 !

[Engine12]

I guess we need a person of authority to decide that.

No, people just need common sense.

[Fisherman]

Well, let me clarify a few things to the haters, the bullies, the nasty attitudes and sarcastic comments that I have received.

1. I am not a novice user of TOTV. I spend my days playing golf, pickleball, walking and a member of many clubs here in TV. I live on the golf course with a pool and lanai which to me, along with all the other things life has to offer in TV, is heaven on earth. Being home now, I was curious to find out what the attraction was to taking a dog to the postal center surroundings to do their business.

2. I live adjacent to the postal center and have a clear view of the Postal Center, amenities area, parking lot and the pool, along with the golf course that backs up to it.

3. When I first moved here, it was a gathering place for all the neighborhood to enjoy. We would get out and sit on benches, watch the sunsets, place shuffleboard and corn toss.

4. Over the years, they have replaced the sod four times. No one goes there anymore because it has become a dog park. We don’t take our grandchildren up there anymore because it is crowded and the residue from dogs urinating and defecating is not a healthy environment for them to play in the grass and pick up corn bags.

5. Now, with limited access at certain times and little monitoring, some dog owners are now letting their dogs loose on the golf course playing frisbee and doing business on the greens.

You are right, I don’t need to be posting on TOTV, although I have an extensive career and a PHD, I obviously do not know how to word things, even though no matter how I worded my post, something tells me the results would have been the same.

In closing, if any of you frequent users of TOTV can tell me how and if I can close this thread, I would be deeply appreciative. Proud to be known as the nice guy, loved by family and respected by friends and colleagues. Makes for a wonderful life.

[Engine12]

Probably because some people complained about dogs crapping in the grass areas of the postal stations north of Route 44. When they started building the new areas, TV management decided to ban dogs from the recreation areas like Willow Tree.

Since the mail boxes are within the recreation areas, I guess that means you cannot have your dog with you when you go to check your mail.

And if you go by that pictured sign, you can’t ride your bike or drive your golf cart to get your mail either . So if you live down there you can only drive your car or walk. If you actually live there, don’t let us see you in your cart :boom:

[kendi]

Then the question of enforcement has to be asked.

Dogs are certainly allowed in the postal areas. The sign is referring to the recreation area behind the postal building. Personally checked it out for myself just now in McClure and it clearly states this.

[ts12755]

I like to walk my dog in the open common areas of the Villages rather than my nieghbors front yard.

[Engine12]

It is disgusting to see a dog owner walk his/her dog at the Postal stations and to also allow them to do their business on someone else's property.We had a dog for years and would never allow it. Don't the challenged dog owners know they also carry diseases and
this spreads them. As I say there is no cure for "stupid". No way will these notes convince them to stop but rather cause them to be more aggressive. Just look at some of the responses to this thread. Enough said. :ohdear:

At least the majority of the owners pick up after their pets. The wild animals we have here could spread more diseases than domestic pets. Maybe we should ban wildlife or make them pick up after themselves.

[kendi]

Well, let me clarify a few things to the haters, the bullies, the nasty attitudes and sarcastic comments that I have received.

1. I am not a novice user of TOTV. I spend my days playing golf, pickleball, walking and a member of many clubs here in TV. I live on the golf course with a pool and lanai which to me, along with all the other things life has to offer in TV, is heaven on earth. Being home now, I was curious to find out what the attraction was to taking a dog to the postal center surroundings to do their business.

2. I live adjacent to the postal center and have a clear view of the Postal Center, amenities area, parking lot and the pool, along with the golf course that backs up to it.

3. When I first moved here, it was a gathering place for all the neighborhood to enjoy. We would get out and sit on benches, watch the sunsets, place shuffleboard and corn toss.

4. Over the years, they have replaced the sod four times. No one goes there anymore because it has become a dog park. We don’t take our grandchildren up there anymore because it is crowded and the residue from dogs urinating and defecating is not a healthy environment for them to play in the grass and pick up corn bags.

5. Now, with limited access at certain times and little monitoring, some dog owners are now letting their dogs loose on the golf course playing frisbee and doing business on the greens.

You are right, I don’t need to be posting on TOTV, although I have an extensive career and a PHD, I obviously do not know how to word things, even though no matter how I worded my post, something tells me the results would have been the same.

In closing, if any of you frequent users of TOTV can tell me how and if I can close this thread, I would be deeply appreciative. Proud to be known as the nice guy, loved by family and respected by friends and colleagues. Makes for a wonderful life.

Curious to know which postal area you live by. Willowtree's sign clearly states no dogs for the recreation area. There is no reference what-so-ever to the postal station.

[kendi]

[QUOTE=VApeople;1754621]No.

Go to any postal station in The Villages south of 44. You will see a sign showing a leashed dog with a line through it.


I have Chihuahua can't :read: English

I did go and the sign says. RECREATION AREA - no dogs. It is not referring to the postal station and is placed is front of the recreation area, not the postal station. There is no sign at Willowtree postal banning dogs.

[brianherlihy]

not my place

[Engine12]

Well, let me clarify a few things to the haters, the bullies, the nasty attitudes and sarcastic comments that I have received.

1. I am not a novice user of TOTV. I spend my days playing golf, pickleball, walking and a member of many clubs here in TV. I live on the golf course with a pool and lanai which to me, along with all the other things life has to offer in TV, is heaven on earth. Being home now, I was curious to find out what the attraction was to taking a dog to the postal center surroundings to do their business.

2. I live adjacent to the postal center and have a clear view of the Postal Center, amenities area, parking lot and the pool, along with the golf course that backs up to it.

3. When I first moved here, it was a gathering place for all the neighborhood to enjoy. We would get out and sit on benches, watch the sunsets, place shuffleboard and corn toss.

4. Over the years, they have replaced the sod four times. No one goes there anymore because it has become a dog park. We don’t take our grandchildren up there anymore because it is crowded and the residue from dogs urinating and defecating is not a healthy environment for them to play in the grass and pick up corn bags.

5. Now, with limited access at certain times and little monitoring, some dog owners are now letting their dogs loose on the golf course playing frisbee and doing business on the greens.

You are right, I don’t need to be posting on TOTV, although I have an extensive career and a PHD, I obviously do not know how to word things, even though no matter how I worded my post, something tells me the results would have been the same.

In closing, if any of you frequent users of TOTV can tell me how and if I can close this thread, I would be deeply appreciative. Proud to be known as the nice guy, loved by family and respected by friends and colleagues. Makes for a wonderful life.

Not the answers you wanted huh ? Since you have an extensive career and a PHD, I would think you’d be open to all comments, answers, etc.
You’re going to get multiple opinions no matter where you post. If you’re looking for only answers from people that agree with you, don’t post in an open forum. Not being mean or rude, just the truth.

[jfkilduff]

Fisherman u & others just like to complain! It’s “common area” which means they have as much right to it as u do.

[TooColdNJ]

I walk my dog to the mailboxes every now and then as destination for my walk and back. I have a theory for you...

I think dog owners bring their dogs in their carts to pick up mail because they know others who go at the same time. It allows the dogs AND their pawrents the opportunity to “socialize” for a few minutes as well. Dogs need socialization, and many don’t go to dog parks. I don’t think they go just for a place for the dogs to do their business, but with some people...ya never know.

[BlackhawksFan]

I believe all of your questions have been addressed in one of the 1,314 dog poop topics that have been posted here.

That's a lot of 🐶💩

[Fredster]

Well, let me clarify a few things to the haters, the bullies, the nasty attitudes and sarcastic comments that I have received.

1. I am not a novice user of TOTV. I spend my days playing golf, pickleball, walking and a member of many clubs here in TV. I live on the golf course with a pool and lanai which to me, along with all the other things life has to offer in TV, is heaven on earth. Being home now, I was curious to find out what the attraction was to taking a dog to the postal center surroundings to do their business.

2. I live adjacent to the postal center and have a clear view of the Postal Center, amenities area, parking lot and the pool, along with the golf course that backs up to it.

3. When I first moved here, it was a gathering place for all the neighborhood to enjoy. We would get out and sit on benches, watch the sunsets, place shuffleboard and corn toss.

4. Over the years, they have replaced the sod four times. No one goes there anymore because it has become a dog park. We don’t take our grandchildren up there anymore because it is crowded and the residue from dogs urinating and defecating is not a healthy environment for them to play in the grass and pick up corn bags.

5. Now, with limited access at certain times and little monitoring, some dog owners are now letting their dogs loose on the golf course playing frisbee and doing business on the greens.

You are right, I don’t need to be posting on TOTV, although I have an extensive career and a PHD, I obviously do not know how to word things, even though no matter how I worded my post, something tells me the results would have been the same.

In closing, if any of you frequent users of TOTV can tell me how and if I can close this thread, I would be deeply appreciative. Proud to be known as the nice guy, loved by family and respected by friends and colleagues. Makes for a wonderful life.

I’m can fully understand your feelings, my local postal station and adjoining pool area can be easily confused with a dog park. I like dogs, even had a few in my life, but a great number of dog owners in TV are hard to like.
You would never know that the owners have a home with grass areas. I’ve lived in a lot of different communities over the years, but I’ve never experienced dog owner behavior as I have in TV.

[TooColdNJ]

I don't understand why pet owners can't let their dogs relieve themselves on their own property THEN take them to the postal station or where ever they want to go for a walk and get exercise.

We don't have a dog now but were dog owners for 32 years (2 different dogs). I never, ever took my dogs out anywhere to relieve themselves other than the potty area on our property. I walked them on their leashes to an area I prepared for them. This area was surrounded by bricks or pavers and I put soft shredded mulch in the area. This was super comfortable for their paws. I replenished the mulch to maintain a nice potty area for them

When we took walks, I always carried a bag to pick up after them. I never knew when the urge would strike them even after they had pooped in their prepared potty area on our own property. That rarely happened but at least, I was prepared. Marking their spot with urine, however, always happened on the walks. Male dogs!

If you read what you wrote, you’ll realize that your LAST paragraph clearly answers your own question in the first paragraph. Between TOTV and NDN, people (even pet owners) get all bent out of shape about dogs relieving themselves on their property and elsewhere.

The answer to everyone who wonders, asks, is just curious, or complains about is exactly what you wrote:

“I never knew when the urge would strike them even after they had pooped in their prepared potty area on our own property.”
They think you should pull your dog away if they start to... the dogs should do it in the street instead (can’t even rinse the residue... so that’s better? ) They say that if they’re properly trained, the should NEVER do it....

If a couple of dogs are there when you’re there, I’m sure it isn’t ALL time, and it isn’t a PACK of dogs. People just like to rant about it and make it sound as if the mailbox areas have become the new local dog parks and, as a result, there’s a TON of poop that NO ONE picks up. Oh, c’mon now! Exaggeration runs rampant. If there are many dogs there on a regular basis you might have something to complain about...if complaining is your thing.

[DonnaNi4os]

You are correct. The postal stations are a place to socialize and our dogs need to socialize as well. My typical practice is that when I pick up my mail my dog comes with me. Sometimes we walk, sometimes we take the golf cart. She adores the cart! My friends bring their dogs and they get to see their “friends”. Should my dog poop while there I ALWAYS pick it up. I have a poop bag dispenser on her leash. I wish I could say they about everyone in my community but sadly I cannot. It is so annoying to everyone who is civil. My dog has free access to our yard, but I will continue to take her to the postal station. I am uncertain as to why you find fault with that especially since you are a dog lover like me. When I was looking at houses here my realtor told me that a dog was the best way to make friends here. Perhaps you can explain why this bothers you because I honestly don’t understand.

[Ljaprea]

Do you live south of 44? I do and I go to the Willow Tree mail station every day and there are no such signs there, never have been. I just got back from driving to 5 mail stations in Fenney, De Soto, McClure, and Monarch Grove, there are NO signs there like you describe. I did not drive to Marsh Bend as this was a fool's errand. Who told you there were signs?
There is a sign at the Linden postal station clearly showing a picture of a dog on a leash with a line through it. It is at the bottom of the sign for the Postal/recreation area.

[DavidnJeannie]

We take our dog with us to the post office every day. She knows where she's going when we say "let's go get the mail". We always pick up after her and bring it home. She especially likes it when other dogs are there. Dogs like to socialize too! Have a great day. Be safe. 🥰

[Fredster]

You are correct. The postal stations are a place to socialize and our dogs need to socialize as well. My typical practice is that when I pick up my mail my dog comes with me. Sometimes we walk, sometimes we take the golf cart. She adores the cart! My friends bring their dogs and they get to see their “friends”. Should my dog poop while there I ALWAYS pick it up. I have a poop bag dispenser on her leash. I wish I could say they about everyone in my community but sadly I cannot. It is so annoying to everyone who is civil. My dog has free access to our yard, but I will continue to take her to the postal station. I am uncertain as to why you find fault with that especially since you are a dog lover like me. When I was looking at houses here my realtor told me that a dog was the best way to make friends here. Perhaps you can explain why this bothers you because I honestly don’t understand.

Your comment about sums it up, you and many other dog owners treat the mail station /rec areas as a dog park which they are not!
Read the dog owner comments and you will realize why many residents feel the postal staion/rec areas have become dog parks!

[rmd2]

They do it so they DON'T have to pick up their doggie's poop. I've seen it many times at my postal station.

[fdpaq0580]

Well, let me clarify a few things to the haters, the bullies, the nasty attitudes and sarcastic comments that I have received.

1. I am not a novice user of TOTV. I spend my days playing golf, pickleball, walking and a member of many clubs here in TV. I live on the golf course with a pool and lanai which to me, along with all the other things life has to offer in TV, is heaven on earth. Being home now, I was curious to find out what the attraction was to taking a dog to the postal center surroundings to do their business.

2. I live adjacent to the postal center and have a clear view of the Postal Center, amenities area, parking lot and the pool, along with the golf course that backs up to it.

3. When I first moved here, it was a gathering place for all the neighborhood to enjoy. We would get out and sit on benches, watch the sunsets, place shuffleboard and corn toss.

4. Over the years, they have replaced the sod four times. No one goes there anymore because it has become a dog park. We don’t take our grandchildren up there anymore because it is crowded and the residue from dogs urinating and defecating is not a healthy environment for them to play in the grass and pick up corn bags.

5. Now, with limited access at certain times and little monitoring, some dog owners are now letting their dogs loose on the golf course playing frisbee and doing business on the greens.

You are right, I don’t need to be posting on TOTV, although I have an extensive career and a PHD, I obviously do not know how to word things, even though no matter how I worded my post, something tells me the results would have been the same.

In closing, if any of you frequent users of TOTV can tell me how and if I can close this thread, I would be deeply appreciative. Proud to be known as the nice guy, loved by family and respected by friends and colleagues. Makes for a wonderful life.

Items 3, 4, 5 tell it all. Your experience is nothing new. It is an example of how one group of individuals take over something and subvert it for their own purpose rather than the purpose it was intended for. If not corrected immediately they assume that it is now their right to use as they see fit and they become offended and aggressive in defending their usurped turf, not unlike a gang taking over a neighborhood. Imagine a group of dog owners taking over the pickle ball courts because they provide a safe, enclosed place for dogs and turning them into dog parks. They would have no clue why the pickle ballers would object to sharing their space. Same clueless mentality.

[Spadra1]

We take our dog to the postal station everyday. He loves going there and my husband can run with him in the grass we don’t use dog parks due to health risks to dogs from other dogs. We don’t let our dog run i
On the hot road surface. Because we don’t want his paw pads to get burned. Look this up online and you will see how painful it is for your dog. The grassy area by the mailbox I’d perfect for our dog to run on a leash. We pick up any deposits he makes and bring them home to flush them away we do not throw them in the trash can at the postal station nor would we find that acceptable. Remember our dogs need to get out and get exercise just like we do if you are respectful of the area you take your dog snd the people who are around I don’t think it matters much where that is.

[Fredster]

We take our dog to the postal station everyday. He loves going there and my husband can run with him in the grass we don’t use dog parks due to health risks to dogs from other dogs. We don’t let our dog run i
On the hot road surface. Because we don’t want his paw pads to get burned. Look this up online and you will see how painful it is for your dog. The grassy area by the mailbox I’d perfect for our dog to run on a leash. We pick up any deposits he makes and bring them home to flush them away we do not throw them in the trash can at the postal station nor would we find that acceptable. Remember our dogs need to get out and get exercise just like we do if you are respectful of the area you take your dog snd the people who are around I don’t think it matters much where that is.

Your first paragraph says it all...you use the postal station as a dog park, and are you that naive to believe that no other dog owners are using that station to!
Some of the dog owner rationalizations are simply unbelievable!

[Number 10 GI]

Is it possible there are people who don't understand what a picture of something (such as a dog) with a line through it means? Just a thought.

There is also a picture of a bicyclist with a line through it and a picture of a golf cart with a line through it. Do you really think that a community that bills itself as a golf cart community would ban golf carts at the postal station? Get serious, that sign is at the entrance to the shuffleboard and corn toss area and those items plus dogs are barred from that area.:ohdear:

[Number 10 GI]

Probably because some people complained about dogs crapping in the grass areas of the postal stations north of Route 44. When they started building the new areas, TV management decided to ban dogs from the recreation areas like Willow Tree.

Since the mail boxes are within the recreation areas, I guess that means you cannot have your dog with you when you go to check your mail.

Using your logic bicycles and golf carts are also on that sign so they are banned from the postal station. Do you really believe that?

[Number 10 GI]

Do you hear that sound, I think it is the theme music for The Twilight Zone!

[Barborv]

The first post from Fisherman never said you cant bring your dog to pick up your mail! Just pick up their crap!! No matter where you are ! I'm sure if your dogs do their business in your backyard , I'm sure you pick it up. Have the same courtesy for others. No one wants to look at poop, let alone step in it (Is that good luck)? LOL
Sorry I didn't follow your" Do not respond if it doesn't pertain to you" After reading some of the responses, I couldn't help myself! haha

[Holpat39]

I don't have an answer but I entirely agree with you. My little girl does her business in our yard, pick it up and then take her for a walk.

[PugMom]

i'm only going to comment on the point of someone 'walking' their dog outside the golf cart while they ride inside: i've seen these people! it's a man & woman with a small pom-corgi type dog that always looks exhausted. they're riding all around the area while the poor dog has to keep up alongside them :doggie:

[amexsbow]

Please do not post an answer unless this pertains to you and you can give me the logic behind why this is a common practice that you do. I do not want to hear “we go again”.....
First, I love dogs, have had many, man’s best friend
1. Why do you drive your car or cart up to the postal center to do their business and for no other purpose. I see the same people do this three or four times a day.
2. Why is it that you come to get your mail and get your dog out of your cart or car to do their business?
3. Why do you drive your cart and let the dog try to keep up with you along the street knowing you can not get out and pick up the business?
4. Why don’t you walk your dog to do their business in your own yard?

I am perfectly okay with people walking their dogs in the neighborhoods and am even acceptive if they have to do business ( you never know when nature is going to call) in my yard, as long as they pick it up. We all need exercise and fresh air, our pets included.

Am anxious to hear only from those that use the above as a common practice. If you do not have anything nice to say with a logical explanation, please do not post. My understanding is that the postal center is for a place to pick up your mail, socialize with neighbors and enjoy the amenities adjacent such as shuffleboard etc. They are amenities provided and paid for by the residents, they are not dog parks.
Thank you.

I love dogs. I have enjoyed the companionship of dogs since a young boy. It is some owners who give dogs a bad name. I have found when you have this ongoing problem it is a good idea to get a good "game camera" from an outdoor store or mail order. The higher megapixel the better. Record the offenders and post the pictures, or file a complaint with the authorities. Perhaps they will get their act together.

[RedChariot]

Items 3, 4, 5 tell it all. Your experience is nothing new. It is an example of how one group of individuals take over something and subvert it for their own purpose rather than the purpose it was intended for. If not corrected immediately they assume that it is now their right to use as they see fit and they become offended and aggressive in defending their usurped turf, not unlike a gang taking over a neighborhood. Imagine a group of dog owners taking over the pickle ball courts because they provide a safe, enclosed place for dogs and turning them into dog parks. They would have no clue why the pickle ballers would object to sharing their space. Same clueless mentality.

You have hit the nail on the head. Dog owners and their self serving actions have taken over. They are the undesirables that took over our neighborhoods. Mob mentality.
Will this ever end???

[Topspinmo]

Post Closed


The postal stations are there to Get you’re mail. It’s not there to BS stand in road, while others are trying get there mail. End of rant.

[Topspinmo]

Well, let me clarify a few things to the haters, the bullies, the nasty attitudes and sarcastic comments that I have received.

1. I am not a novice user of TOTV. I spend my days playing golf, pickleball, walking and a member of many clubs here in TV. I live on the golf course with a pool and lanai which to me, along with all the other things life has to offer in TV, is heaven on earth. Being home now, I was curious to find out what the attraction was to taking a dog to the postal center surroundings to do their business.

2. I live adjacent to the postal center and have a clear view of the Postal Center, amenities area, parking lot and the pool, along with the golf course that backs up to it.

3. When I first moved here, it was a gathering place for all the neighborhood to enjoy. We would get out and sit on benches, watch the sunsets, place shuffleboard and corn toss.

4. Over the years, they have replaced the sod four times. No one goes there anymore because it has become a dog park. We don’t take our grandchildren up there anymore because it is crowded and the residue from dogs urinating and defecating is not a healthy environment for them to play in the grass and pick up corn bags.

5. Now, with limited access at certain times and little monitoring, some dog owners are now letting their dogs loose on the golf course playing frisbee and doing business on the greens.

You are right, I don’t need to be posting on TOTV, although I have an extensive career and a PHD, I obviously do not know how to word things, even though no matter how I worded my post, something tells me the results would have been the same.

In closing, if any of you frequent users of TOTV can tell me how and if I can close this thread, I would be deeply appreciative. Proud to be known as the nice guy, loved by family and respected by friends and colleagues. Makes for a wonderful life.


Too late it’s already out there