View Full Version : Can we reopen the Pickleball courts, please.
argos5usa
04-27-2020, 11:14 AM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
vintageogauge
04-27-2020, 11:17 AM
Don't you have to touch the ball after someone else touches it? We are still allowed to jog or run or ride bikes or use the outdoor gym equipment all of which would be considered physical activities and just as good if not better than pickle ball.
JGVillages
04-27-2020, 11:59 AM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
I miss my daily pickleball but I’ve been walking 3 miles daily to stay active. Keeping activities closed does not have to do you harm. There are alternatives to stay active until a reasonable plan to a safe re-opening can be implemented. If safety “rules” for opening are not followed it will cause heated disputes on the courts, and they will just shut them down again. For me I plan to wear pickleball gloves and bring my own hand sanitizer and a chair. Probably water and possibly balls will not be provided initially so bring your own. The developer has a liability exposure to consider. Pools are re-opening first so let us see what happens there. Rules were not followed prior to shut down so if that scenario repeats we will all suffer.
argos5usa
04-27-2020, 12:19 PM
Thank you for the thoughtful response(s) but if "liability exposure" becomes the primary concern then they won't reopen for months..."assumption of the risk" should be a sufficient defense for the developer...wearing gloves won't protect you very much since you will likely touch other parts of your body with your glove...using outdoor exercise equipment is arguably much worse than touching a pickleball.
My point is that we have reached the point of diminishing returns on this lock down approach and entering the causing more harm than good phase and we need to move on.
karostay
04-27-2020, 02:06 PM
No No No silence is golden
coffeebean
04-27-2020, 02:11 PM
Don't you have to touch the ball after someone else touches it? We are still allowed to jog or run or ride bikes or use the outdoor gym equipment all of which would be considered physical activities and just as good if not better than pickle ball.
Does the outdoor gym equipment have to be touched to use them? I thought that equipment was off limits at this time.
GoPacers
04-27-2020, 03:36 PM
I don't see why pickleball courts couldn't be opened assuming people could follow social distancing guidelines. Yes, you have to touch the ball but don't touch your face and after each game, wash (disinfect) your hands and the ball. It really could (and should) be a very safe game to play. Only put up 1/2 the nets and that alone would decrease the density on the courts.
I do see the problem with players standing in lines waiting to play and I'm not sure there is a good way to protect against that since too many folks just don't seem to understand. In most of the recreation activities if people would follow the rules they could be played very safely. The few are ruining the opportunities for the many.
Bogie Shooter
04-27-2020, 03:38 PM
Thank you for the thoughtful response(s) but if "liability exposure" becomes the primary concern then they won't reopen for months..."assumption of the risk" should be a sufficient defense for the developer...wearing gloves won't protect you very much since you will likely touch other parts of your body with your glove...using outdoor exercise equipment is arguably much worse than touching a pickleball.
My point is that we have reached the point of diminishing returns on this lock down approach and entering the causing more harm than good phase and we need to move on.
Diminishing returns, let me play and just let a few die!
Topspinmo
04-27-2020, 03:54 PM
Don't you have to touch the ball after someone else touches it? We are still allowed to jog or run or ride bikes or use the outdoor gym equipment all of which would be considered physical activities and just as good if not better than pickle ball.
So you touch the ball, the ball being hit through the air. Does the virus ( 1- 10,000 change it did get on the ball) stick like magnet?
Haven’t heard of one case of pickleball or tennis player that caught the virus from playing? Much higher chance going into store or walking/standing by people you don’t know.
As long as they take precautions like wipe ball, wipe hands, wipe paddle before you enter the court, don’t French kiss anyone, stick you’re fingers in you’re mouth, lick the ball.
Can’t be shut down for ever. USTA has all ready released opinions on playing in non hot spot areas.
Now will they provide balls, water, and or back to league play with large groups not likely for month or more. There NO reason not let outdoor activities start back up.
If not then, golf needs to be shut down.
Topspinmo
04-27-2020, 03:59 PM
Diminishing returns, let me play and just let a few die!
Bet you’re playing golf, shut that ____ down then.
Read some obituaries, quite few said they was avid golfers? I wonder when virus patients are asked questions? Is one question have you been playing golf? I haven’t read one that said they were avid pickleball or tennis players? Maybe someone needs to connect the dots?
Topspinmo
04-27-2020, 04:01 PM
I don't see why pickleball courts couldn't be opened assuming people could follow social distancing guidelines. Yes, you have to touch the ball but don't touch your face and after each game, wash (disinfect) your hands and the ball. It really could (and should) be a very safe game to play. Only put up 1/2 the nets and that alone would decrease the density on the courts.
I do see the problem with players standing in lines waiting to play and I'm not sure there is a good way to protect against that since too many folks just don't seem to understand. In most of the recreation activities if people would follow the rules they could be played very safely. The few are ruining the opportunities for the many.
USTA has already issued guideline’s for playing in non heavy effect areas.
thelegges
04-27-2020, 05:18 PM
Does the outdoor gym equipment have to be touched to use them? I thought that equipment was off limits at this time.
Outdoor equipment have been open the entire time, we always brought wipes before using equipment, just like at a gym.
JoMar
04-27-2020, 05:21 PM
Thank you for the thoughtful response(s) but if "liability exposure" becomes the primary concern then they won't reopen for months..."assumption of the risk" should be a sufficient defense for the developer...wearing gloves won't protect you very much since you will likely touch other parts of your body with your glove...using outdoor exercise equipment is arguably much worse than touching a pickleball.
My point is that we have reached the point of diminishing returns on this lock down approach and entering the causing more harm than good phase and we need to move on.
I believe you meant it is causing you more harm, and that would be a mental thing and not physical unless that is your choice. As mentioned before, there are alternative ways to get your excercise. Germaphobe was really a poor choice of words and could mean you don't understand the harm this virus can do physically.
thelegges
04-27-2020, 05:39 PM
I would think you are at lower risk playing pickle ball, than shopping at the grocery since March
dewilson58
04-27-2020, 05:59 PM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
Most (no, i did not measure) are minimal physical activity.
A few active hot-shots, but most are dink, dink, point.
Much healthier to walk, run, ride, row.
Refund??..........clueless.
vintageogauge
04-27-2020, 07:39 PM
Does the outdoor gym equipment have to be touched to use them? I thought that equipment was off limits at this time.
You can sanitize the equipment before you use it but I doubt you can keep stopping a pickle ball game to clean your hands after touching the ball. I think it's the inside gyms that are closed not the outdoor equipment.
600th Photo Sq
04-27-2020, 08:03 PM
I have the inside information on when the " Some " of the courts will be opened. I will let you know by this coming Friday.
justjim
04-27-2020, 08:47 PM
I have the inside information on when the " Some " of the courts will be opened. I will let you know by this coming Friday.
Well, it’s settled then.
Marvic 1
04-27-2020, 09:01 PM
I have the inside information on when the " Some " of the courts will be opened.
. . . . Some, . . . . that is stupid, it would create larger crowds then normal play..
argos5usa
04-27-2020, 09:27 PM
If you want everyone to sign a waiver of liability before entering the courts...fine, I'll sign it.
You want to wear a mask for the rest of your life...fine, it will probably be an improvement.
I'm sick and tired of paranoid germophobes dictating what the rest of us can or cannot do.
God bless America.
eyc234
04-27-2020, 10:26 PM
I don't see why pickleball courts couldn't be opened assuming people could follow social distancing guidelines. Yes, you have to touch the ball but don't touch your face and after each game, wash (disinfect) your hands and the ball. It really could (and should) be a very safe game to play. Only put up 1/2 the nets and that alone would decrease the density on the courts.
I do see the problem with players standing in lines waiting to play and I'm not sure there is a good way to protect against that since too many folks just don't seem to understand. In most of the recreation activities if people would follow the rules they could be played very safely. The few are ruining the opportunities for the many.
:ohdear: So no one ever wipes sweat from their face? You could not even begin to say how many times you could touch your face during a game and after touching a ball. Luv the game but do not trust most people about what they do, where they have been or what they touch.
eyc234
04-27-2020, 10:28 PM
Most (no, i did not measure) are minimal physical activity.
A few active hot-shots, but most are dink, dink, point.
Much healthier to walk, run, ride, row.
Refund??..........clueless.
:bigbow:
eyc234
04-27-2020, 10:48 PM
If you want everyone to sign a waiver of liability before entering the courts...fine, I'll sign it.
You want to wear a mask for the rest of your life...fine, it will probably be an improvement.
I'm sick and tired of paranoid germophobes dictating what the rest of us can or cannot do.
God bless America.
That is a pretty absurd thought. Will you sign a waiver that allows the taking of a loved one of yours when your actions whether on purpose or accidental takes another's loved one? Oh and you must explain to the ones left behind that you did it for a game? Everyone has fears (including you and I) and it does not make them paranoid, anymore than your seemed obsession with a game makes you an addict.
Hopefully things will get back to normal quicker rather than slower and we can get back to normal using intelligence, control and safety for the larger good of citizens.
argos5usa
04-28-2020, 12:25 AM
" Will you sign a waiver that allows the taking of a loved one of yours when your actions whether on purpose or accidental takes another's loved one? "
What on earth? Has everyone become insane? Or just a vocal few?
Look...It's really simple....If you want to play pickleball with me or anyone else, you are assuming the risk that you might get hurt, either by getting hit by the ball, falling or impacted by a sneeze, cough or touch containing bacteria, viruses or germs....If you don't want to play, stay home, wear your mask, watch MSNBC and live in fear.
Like I said...it's really simple.
Rosebud1949
04-28-2020, 05:08 AM
Pickleball 50% capacity courts masks and gloves......no exceptions.. germophobe comment to those who CARE if they get or pass on the virus was really uncalled for.. Assume you are one of many without a mask !!!
shelley77
04-28-2020, 05:27 AM
I think we should ban cars too. Just think, we can save 38,000 lives per year (that's just the fatality rate), plus over 100,000 serious permanent injuries. 38,000 souls, and every one a brother, sister, mother, father, son daughter. Think of the EMT's that have to go to these crash sites, day after day, and deal with the agony and death. If you want to drive you're just a selfish, greedy person. Drive and Die!
woderfulwendy1
04-28-2020, 05:38 AM
Problem solved, we have a bucket of sanitized balls, all 4 players sanitize their hands before the game begins, they get a sanitized ball, play game, end of game ball back into sanitizing bucket. When we wait for the next game we do social distancing. We are Outside, we're not in enclosed in a crowded room. All our lives are going to get down to either keep yourself the safest and don't leave your home at all and let the others get on with their lives and don't be resentful of them. Sometimes it just comes down to choice.
roob1
04-28-2020, 05:53 AM
The ball may become unsanitized as soon as one player touches his/her face during the game and then touches the ball.
Problem solved, we have a bucket of sanitized balls, all 4 players sanitize their hands before the game begins, they get a sanitized ball, play game, end of game ball back into sanitizing bucket. When we wait for the next game we do social distancing. We are Outside, we're not in enclosed in a crowded room. All our lives are going to get down to either keep yourself the safest and don't leave your home at all and let the others get on with their lives and don't be resentful of them. Sometimes it just comes down to choice.
Girlcopper
04-28-2020, 06:01 AM
Correct. Opening pickle ball for health reasons is ridiculous. Ok. Lets get the blood pressure down but get the virus instead. Yeah. That makes sense
davem4616
04-28-2020, 06:15 AM
" Will you sign a waiver that allows the taking of a loved one of yours when your actions whether on purpose or accidental takes another's loved one? "
What on earth? Has everyone become insane? Or just a vocal few?
Look...It's really simple....If you want to play pickleball with me or anyone else, you are assuming the risk that you might get hurt, either by getting hit by the ball, falling or impacted by a sneeze, cough or touch containing bacteria, viruses or germs....If you don't want to play, stay home, wear your mask, watch MSNBC and live in fear.
Like I said...it's really simple.
nice rant :clap2::clap2::clap2:
EileenK
04-28-2020, 06:17 AM
Don't you have to touch the ball after someone else touches it? We are still allowed to jog or run or ride bikes or use the outdoor gym equipment all of which would be considered physical activities and just as good if not better than pickle ball.
Don’t you touch the handles on each exercise piece of equipment? You do. So how is that allowed and not pickleball?
B-flat
04-28-2020, 06:18 AM
Most (no, i did not measure) are minimal physical activity.
A few active hot-shots, but most are dink, dink, point.
Much healthier to walk, run, ride, row.
Refund??..........clueless.
:bigbow:
richl
04-28-2020, 06:23 AM
Don't you have to touch the ball after someone else touches it? We are still allowed to jog or run or ride bikes or use the outdoor gym equipment all of which would be considered physical activities and just as good if not better than pickle ball.
I think you miss the point - I for one like pickleball and play 5-6 times a week for my cardio requirement. I don't like biking, and I cannot jog because of my knee. If you look at the dimensions of the court, the 4 players can maintain a 6-foot separation pretty easily if desired. One can also wear a mask. It is outdoors where the threat is less than say shopping for food. yes, you touch the ball but so what you just wash your hands like you would for any other activity like food shopping, getting gas, etc. IMO the pluses outweigh the negatives.
matandch
04-28-2020, 06:25 AM
I’ll let you in on a secret. People can (and do) play Pickleball all day at PEAR Park near Lake Harris S of Leesburg. I’m also a player but choose to stay away, instead choosing to walk the trails alone also at PEAR Park to get my exercise.
Marathon Man
04-28-2020, 06:30 AM
If you want everyone to sign a waiver of liability before entering the courts...fine, I'll sign it.
You want to wear a mask for the rest of your life...fine, it will probably be an improvement.
I'm sick and tired of paranoid germophobes dictating what the rest of us can or cannot do.
God bless America.
What would the waiver say? "I take full resposibility if I pass the virus on to others while playing."
JonWilliams
04-28-2020, 06:35 AM
A couple of factual points here: (1) The Developer does not own the pickleball courts, We do (through the Community Development Districts) except in the new areas. The CDDs purchase recreation facilities from the Developer generally as new areas mature. (2) We all have (are supposed to have) signed general waivers absolving the Rec department, CCD, and Developer as applicable, from liability as a result of use of any and all rec facilities. No additional waivers are needed.
HelenLCSW
04-28-2020, 06:43 AM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
This has nothing to do with germs — this is a pandemic —better a little overkill than not enough — take a walk, or a run —
EileenK
04-28-2020, 07:07 AM
Exactly!
Put a sign up stating ‘play at your own risk”
gsovas
04-28-2020, 07:08 AM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
Pickleball could reopen if all were forced to wear gloves & keep the distance.
However, you ave to realize everyone touches the ball so gloves could help here.
coffeebean
04-28-2020, 07:23 AM
If you want everyone to sign a waiver of liability before entering the courts...fine, I'll sign it.
You want to wear a mask for the rest of your life...fine, it will probably be an improvement.
I'm sick and tired of paranoid germophobes dictating what the rest of us can or cannot do.
God bless America.
This statement tells me you are absolutely clueless that you are endangering OTHERS. I understand you don't care if YOU contract the disease but you are clueless that you can infect OTHERS and not be aware of it.
La lamy
04-28-2020, 07:24 AM
Don't you have to touch the ball after someone else touches it? We are still allowed to jog or run or ride bikes or use the outdoor gym equipment all of which would be considered physical activities and just as good if not better than pickle ball.
Touching the ball is just like you touching a door knob when you're out shopping. Yes it may be contaminated, but you disinfect before and after usage and you don't touch your face. Mitigation of risk is totally possible.
rlcooper70
04-28-2020, 07:31 AM
How about a large bowl of soapy water on the side of the pickle ball courts ... with another large bowl of clean water next to it ... keep washing your hands as you come off the court and have enough brains to avoid touching your own face while on the courts.
There has to be a way to keep The Villages activities open ... the problem is simply the people who insist on congregating forcing the developers to shut us down. You can't fix "stupid".
coffeebean
04-28-2020, 07:34 AM
Pickleball could reopen if all were forced to wear gloves & keep the distance.
However, you ave to realize everyone touches the ball so gloves could help here.
No need for gloves. The gloves are just like a second layer of skin. Gloves can still pass on the virus with everything you touch, including your face.
Keep this in mind............wearing gloves can be detrimental in many circumstances because people do not know the proper way to remove gloves from their hands. They will take off the gloves improperly, contaminate their hands and then not wash their hands thinking they are safe.
Dave Laluk
04-28-2020, 07:35 AM
I don't see why pickleball courts couldn't be opened assuming people could follow social distancing guidelines. Yes, you have to touch the ball but don't touch your face and after each game, wash (disinfect) your hands and the ball. It really could (and should) be a very safe game to play. Only put up 1/2 the nets and that alone would decrease the density on the courts.
I do see the problem with players standing in lines waiting to play and I'm not sure there is a good way to protect against that since too many folks just don't seem to understand. In most of the recreation activities if people would follow the rules they could be played very safely. The few are ruining the opportunities for the many.
You said it yourself. Too many people are not following the social distancing rules and other guidelines. Not to mention that not many people are wearing the proper face masks. These are the folks that are forcing everyone's hand to isolate. Until we get widespread testing available, we need to treat everyone as though they have the virus. Remember that 20% to 50% (depending on which study you read) are infected but show no symptoms. They in turn can infect others if they're not wearing a mask or touch something that you then touch.
VillageIdiots
04-28-2020, 07:41 AM
I'm pretty sure that hand to ball, ball to hand, hand to face is not anywhere close to the top 10 ways people have contracted this virus. If you are going to take it that far, I suppose you would also argue that one could touch their golf ball to put it on a tee, then hit it several times with a metal stick until it ultimately rolls up against a piece of PVC pipe, then the next golfer comes along and their ball also hits that PVC pipe, and in their excitement, they pick up their ball and use their hand to wipe the sweat from their brow, only to transfer virus left on the PVC pipe by the previous golf ball that the other golfer was using. Yet, somehow, golf has managed to remain open all this time. Sound absurd? It should - but now you know how many of the rest of us feel when you argue that playing pickleball or softball or tennis or bocce, or the list goes on, is a high risk activity because of common balls. That stuff was shut due to social proximity, primarily, and much of it could easily be brought back if people would just observe and practice a little common sense.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
Engine12
04-28-2020, 07:51 AM
Don’t you have to touch the outdoor gym equipment ? If so, what’s the difference?
Waltdisney4life
04-28-2020, 07:51 AM
My sister lives in Texas and they have a bucket with sanitizer in it for all the pickle balls, hands are sanitized between match’s no a person does not touch there face, no issues. Social distancing is practiced in line. This is how they are doing it, fact not opinion.
Shopping at Publix or Winn Dixie presents a greater danger no social distancing all products have been handled by multiple persons with unsanitized hands.
DannoMac
04-28-2020, 08:06 AM
I see no reason why pickleball can’t be resumed if the new guidelines are followed. I wish that posters would get over the fact that golf has stayed open. It has because changes were made on the course to prevent exposure and social distancing is practiced. Are there offenders, sure, as there would be with any activity. Let the drinkers, dink. 😷
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 08:07 AM
Most (no, i did not measure) are minimal physical activity.
A few active hot-shots, but most are dink, dink, point.
Much healthier to walk, run, ride, row.
Refund??..........clueless.
Try singles, bet you can’t last 3 games?
Engine12
04-28-2020, 08:09 AM
To all of the folks saying to keep the courts closed, have you gone to WalMart, Publix, Winn Dixie ? How about Lowes or Home Depot ? If so, you are also endangering your family and friends, more than if someone was playing Pickleball or tennis. By going to these shopping stores you are in an enclosed building with more people than would be on a court, you are touching numerous products then another product spreading whatever is on that.
When we were playing Pickleball a couple weeks before they were shut down, we played with people we knew, used our own Pickleball’s, used Clorox wipes on paddles and balls after each game. When entering the courts we either used a wipe, clove, or paper towel to lift the closer.
I know it’s not very common, but use COMMON SENSE. If you don’t want to go out, stay locked in, but let others go out and play on the courts. Even if you play at Rohan, you could use all 6 courts and only have 24 people per pod and be a lot less than a food store. Also, you’d be out in sunshine and fresh air both of which have be said to help prevent the virus.
There is court outside of the villages that is still open but have taken down nets on the 2 inside courts leaving 4 still open.
Engine12
04-28-2020, 08:11 AM
Try singles, bet you can’t last 3 games?
My wife and I play singles probably 90% of the time and on a bad day play at least 6 games. Good days 8-10 games, and yes, even in the summer months. If you can only play 3, you might need to play more...
vintageogauge
04-28-2020, 08:12 AM
Don’t you have to touch the outdoor gym equipment ? If so, what’s the difference?
You can sanitize the outdoor equipment before you use it. In pickle ball you are constantly touching the ball and you can't stop to clean your hands or equipment every time you touch it.
Jayhawk
04-28-2020, 08:18 AM
NO EXCUSES...PICKLEBALL ANYWHERE IN THE HOUSE with Miguel Enciso. A simple DO-IT-YOURSELF project. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyvG9lryozg&feature=share)
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 08:21 AM
:ohdear: So no one ever wipes sweat from their face? You could not even begin to say how many times you could touch your face during a game and after touching a ball. Luv the game but do not trust most people about what they do, where they have been or what they touch.
That’s you’re choice and you’re opinion.
Rita Mirus
04-28-2020, 08:21 AM
What harm can pickle ball and tennis do? Please we are adults and have been for a long time. I certainly trust my judgement over that of the media and politicians who know nothing. Lets start playing soft ball and all the other outdoor activities. Please quit giving out rules and requirements I am done with that. Sunshine and the air we breathe outside is the best medicine we can have. It has been proven scientifically by Dr. Erickson that masks and gloves are useless unless you are sick. Quarantine the sick not the well. Who ever heard of quarantining the well in history. Stay at home if you think that is what you should do get exercise the way you chose but leave everybody alone and quit imposing the views of others on everybody. It is not one size fits all. Socialization is what we moved to TV for. Where did 6 ft. come from did someone measure. Really we are some gullible.
600th Photo Sq
04-28-2020, 08:21 AM
To all of the folks saying to keep the courts closed, have you gone to WalMart, Publix, Winn Dixie ? How about Lowes or Home Depot ? If so, you are also endangering your family and friends, more than if someone was playing Pickleball or tennis. By going to these shopping stores you are in an enclosed building with more people than would be on a court, you are touching numerous products then another product spreading whatever is on that.
When we were playing Pickleball a couple weeks before they were shut down, we played with people we knew, used our own Pickleball’s, used Clorox wipes on paddles and balls after each game. When entering the courts we either used a wipe, clove, or paper towel to lift the closer.
I know it’s not very common, but use COMMON SENSE. If you don’t want to go out, stay locked in, but let others go out and play on the courts. Even if you play at Rohan, you could use all 6 courts and only have 24 people per pod and be a lot less than a food store. Also, you’d be out in sunshine and fresh air both of which have be said to help prevent the virus.
There is court outside of the villages that is still open but have taken down nets on the 2 inside courts leaving 4 still open.
Well, Well. Finally found out your probably the group that emptied the shelves of Clorox Wipes, Paper Towels, and Gloves. All for playing a few games of Pickleball.
Very Naughty :ohdear:
croughwell
04-28-2020, 08:23 AM
A lot of us rely on staying alive and not getting covid19 too!
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 08:23 AM
That is a pretty absurd thought. Will you sign a waiver that allows the taking of a loved one of yours when your actions whether on purpose or accidental takes another's loved one? Oh and you must explain to the ones left behind that you did it for a game? Everyone has fears (including you and I) and it does not make them paranoid, anymore than your seemed obsession with a game makes you an addict.
Hopefully things will get back to normal quicker rather than slower and we can get back to normal using intelligence, control and safety for the larger good of citizens.
Please tell me you’re not golfer and not playing during the shut down.
dlspiess
04-28-2020, 08:23 AM
You can sanitize the outdoor equipment before you use it. In pickle ball you are constantly touching the ball and you can't stop to clean your hands or equipment every time you touch it.
If you sanitize the ball and racket but that's not enough then are you indicating that the nets and the court itself is infected? If you are using your own equipment I don't see it any different than golf.
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 08:25 AM
Correct. Opening pickle ball for health reasons is ridiculous. Ok. Lets get the blood pressure down but get the virus instead. Yeah. That makes sense
Leaving golf course open was health hazard. See I can make ridiculous opinions
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 08:28 AM
My wife and I play singles probably 90% of the time and on a bad day play at least 6 games. Good days 8-10 games, and yes, even in the summer months. If you can only play 3, you might need to play more...
I can play singles for two hours and then some, it’s these non player’s think everybody dink’s which bored the ___ out of me.
Bogie Shooter
04-28-2020, 09:18 AM
Bet you’re playing golf, shut that ____ down then.
Read some obituaries, quite few said they was avid golfers? I wonder when virus patients are asked questions? Is one question have you been playing golf? I haven’t read one that said they were avid pickleball or tennis players? Maybe someone needs to connect the dots?
What makes you think I am playing golf?
sipops
04-28-2020, 09:22 AM
Do you have to touch the outdoor gym equipment?
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 09:22 AM
What makes you think I am playing golf?
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Bogie Shooter
04-28-2020, 09:31 AM
To all of the folks saying to keep the courts closed, have you gone to WalMart, Publix, Winn Dixie ? How about Lowes or Home Depot ? If so, you are also endangering your family and friends, more than if someone was playing Pickleball or tennis. By going to these shopping stores you are in an enclosed building with more people than would be on a court, you are touching numerous products then another product spreading whatever is on that.
When we were playing Pickleball a couple weeks before they were shut down, we played with people we knew, used our own Pickleball’s, used Clorox wipes on paddles and balls after each game. When entering the courts we either used a wipe, clove, or paper towel to lift the closer.
I know it’s not very common, but use COMMON SENSE. If you don’t want to go out, stay locked in, but let others go out and play on the courts. Even if you play at Rohan, you could use all 6 courts and only have 24 people per pod and be a lot less than a food store. Also, you’d be out in sunshine and fresh air both of which have be said to help prevent the virus.
There is court outside of the villages that is still open but have taken down nets on the 2 inside courts leaving 4 still open.
What does that mean? You knew them, did you know everyone that they associated with prior to playing with you? Not a valid argument...….
caram333
04-28-2020, 09:32 AM
OMG. That is terrible to say.
Bogie Shooter
04-28-2020, 09:34 AM
What harm can pickle ball and tennis do? Please we are adults and have been for a long time. I certainly trust my judgement over that of the media and politicians who know nothing. Lets start playing soft ball and all the other outdoor activities. Please quit giving out rules and requirements I am done with that. Sunshine and the air we breathe outside is the best medicine we can have. It has been proven scientifically by Dr. Erickson that masks and gloves are useless unless you are sick. Quarantine the sick not the well. Who ever heard of quarantining the well in history. Stay at home if you think that is what you should do get exercise the way you chose but leave everybody alone and quit imposing the views of others on everybody. It is not one size fits all. Socialization is what we moved to TV for. Where did 6 ft. come from did someone measure. Really we are some gullible.
The world has changed since you moved to TV.
ronvillages
04-28-2020, 09:37 AM
Outdoor gym people touch too. WHY not put a sign and ENFORCE the rule:
GLOVES MUST BE WORN.
Social distancing Must Be Observed.
jgmroc67
04-28-2020, 09:46 AM
You obviously don’t play Pickleball
BevSparks
04-28-2020, 09:53 AM
Agree, open PB and everything else. Recent studies are showing that millions have all ready had Covid-19, and since we know more about it at this point, we need to return to normal. If you have health issues, then it's a good idea to stay home but for those who are healthy it's time to get back to work and to normal routines...
donassaid
04-28-2020, 10:51 AM
Amen to that. Should have never closed to begin with. Could have taken just the center net down and players wear gloves on both hands.
Chi-Town
04-28-2020, 11:01 AM
Pickleball should be allowed. Equipment needed: ball, racquet, glove, sanitizer, and common sense. Not having all is a disqualifier.
xNYer
04-28-2020, 11:02 AM
I think we should ban cars too. Just think, we can save 38,000 lives per year (that's just the fatality rate), plus over 100,000 serious permanent injuries. 38,000 souls, and every one a brother, sister, mother, father, son daughter. Think of the EMT's that have to go to these crash sites, day after day, and deal with the agony and death. If you want to drive you're just a selfish, greedy person. Drive and Die!
Then don’t isolate at all. Since people die in car crashes why should you take any precautions. Well though out and insightful.
vintageogauge
04-28-2020, 11:21 AM
Then don’t isolate at all. Since people die in car crashes why should you take any precautions. Well though out and insightful.
The government mandated seat belts, air bags, tons of other safety mechanisms, speed limits, lower bac's, etc. all which has saved hundreds of thousands of deaths on our highways over the years. 38,000 deaths in one year is not comparable to nearly 60,000 in just 3 months. The government stepped in to protect us from injury and now they have stepped in to protect us from the virus.
NavyVet
04-28-2020, 11:28 AM
Pools are re-opening first so let us see what happens there. Rules were not followed prior to shut down so if that scenario repeats we will all suffer.
And while they're at it, IF they open the sports pools, they should put up the lane ropes and have the pools be for actual, you know, lap swimming (instead of filling up the days with volleyball and classes.) What a novel concept! :duck:
jellybeanrt
04-28-2020, 11:53 AM
The pickle ball lines would be around the corner, standing 6 feet apart, think about that. Or on top of each other which is a bad thing
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 01:19 PM
And while they're at it, IF they open the sports pools, they should put up the lane ropes and have the pools be for actual, you know, lap swimming (instead of filling up the days with volleyball and classes.) What a novel concept! :duck:
Walked by sports pool today and lane ropes was installed.
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 01:21 PM
The pickle ball lines would be around the corner, standing 6 feet apart, think about that. Or on top of each other which is a bad thing
Thank goodness there no electrical boxes close! Those are sex magnets.
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 01:27 PM
Agree, open PB and everything else. Recent studies are showing that millions have all ready had Covid-19, and since we know more about it at this point, we need to return to normal. If you have health issues, then it's a good idea to stay home but for those who are healthy it's time to get back to work and to normal routines...
If we don’t, it’s going to get real bad. Tyson foods and other meat plant already warning food shortages get low. Another month and there might be nothing on store shelves. In another month palm rats and squirrels may start to disappear. :shocked:
Guy&Connie1103
04-28-2020, 01:33 PM
I agree with all of you but let’s open pools first. They are the safest.
Marathon Man
04-28-2020, 01:39 PM
I play pickleball and I play golf. I have done neither for 43 days now. Until the numbers come down, the virus is still making its way through our community. We all need to participate in the effort to make this thing go away. It is not enough to think of protecting yourself. You must also think of others. Isn't that what we teach our children and grandchildren?
sallybowron
04-28-2020, 01:42 PM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
I find your post both rude and self serving. Pickleball is not the only way to exercise, it is just your favorite way. You could walk or run as well. As far as refunding the amenities fees goes, that would lead to a lack of care for the amenities arenas. Pickleball courts would not be kept up along with many of the others. Calling people who don't want to catch the virus a germaphobe is atrocious. I doubt anyone wants to contract the virus. A germaphobe is afraid of all germs, not just the one about which we know very little. I guess if you are playing pickleball and increasing your exposure to the virus you will do the polite thing and not go into a grocery store a church or a restaurant which are opening soon. Or would you, is it all about you? Not allowing people out to things which they do just for recreation, IMHO, keps the whole population safer. Grow up and think of everyone. :boxing2::boxing2:
james robertson
04-28-2020, 02:57 PM
In pickleball and tennis(my game) you have to handle the ball after another player has touched it. In golf(also my game), a player never touches another player's ball, nor a rake, nor the pin, as the game is now played.
PugMom
04-28-2020, 03:11 PM
Does the outdoor gym equipment have to be touched to use them? I thought that equipment was off limits at this time.
i've read the uv light can kills the germ instantly. not sure if thats true or not, nothing seems certain these days
jenistaf
04-28-2020, 03:14 PM
I don't see why pickleball courts couldn't be opened assuming people could follow social distancing guidelines. Yes, you have to touch the ball but don't touch your face and after each game, wash (disinfect) your hands and the ball. It really could (and should) be a very safe game to play. Only put up 1/2 the nets and that alone would decrease the density on the courts.
I do see the problem with players standing in lines waiting to play and I'm not sure there is a good way to protect against that since too many folks just don't seem to understand. In most of the recreation activities if people would follow the rules they could be played very safely. The few are ruining the opportunities for the many.
Half nets are a good idea for gradual reintroduction. Here are a couple of other ideas: Wait outside the fences, with safe distancing. Use paddle racks to determine/maintain order of play.
Jerry101
04-28-2020, 03:20 PM
My wife and I moved to The Villages on April 28, 2019! We love it here! We really do! Periodically I pick one of the topics on this site by chance and read 10 or 15 comments! I didn’t know when we moved here that I also would come across (apparently) THE SMARTEST PEOPLE in THE GOOD ‘Ol 🇺🇸 USA! ... (tongue back in cheek).
PugMom
04-28-2020, 03:21 PM
The government mandated seat belts, air bags, tons of other safety mechanisms, speed limits, lower bac's, etc. all which has saved hundreds of thousands of deaths on our highways over the years. 38,000 deaths in one year is not comparable to nearly 60,000 in just 3 months. The government stepped in to protect us from injury and now they have stepped in to protect us from the virus.
Holy Christ, what a frightening comment.
Hopeful2
04-28-2020, 04:12 PM
I find your post both rude and self serving. Pickleball is not the only way to exercise, it is just your favorite way. You could walk or run as well. As far as refunding the amenities fees goes, that would lead to a lack of care for the amenities arenas. Pickleball courts would not be kept up along with many of the others. Calling people who don't want to catch the virus a germaphobe is atrocious. I doubt anyone wants to contract the virus. A germaphobe is afraid of all germs, not just the one about which we know very little. I guess if you are playing pickleball and increasing your exposure to the virus you will do the polite thing and not go into a grocery store a church or a restaurant which are opening soon. Or would you, is it all about you? Not allowing people out to things which they do just for recreation, IMHO, keps the whole population safer. Grow up and think of everyone. :boxing2::boxing2:
I totally agree with every thing you said! Thank you for posting! :bigbow:
THUNDERCHIEF
04-28-2020, 07:14 PM
a lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already. You can get the virus while you play pickle ball then we do not have to listen to you whining anymore. LIFT WEIGHTS AT HOME ,DO SIT UPS, RUN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES. GUYS LIKE YOU GOT SOME OF MY BUDDIES KILLED IN NAM
600th Photo Sq
04-28-2020, 07:29 PM
If you sanitize the ball and racket but that's not enough then are you indicating that the nets and the court itself is infected? If you are using your own equipment I don't see it any different than golf.
Just a FYI :
Tennis = Racket
Pickleball = Paddle
It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.
We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.
My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved
Marvic 1
04-28-2020, 07:37 PM
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts.
. . . . . . . . . Agree! :coolsmiley:
xNYer
04-28-2020, 07:58 PM
Agree, open PB and everything else. Recent studies are showing that millions have all ready had Covid-19, and since we know more about it at this point, we need to return to normal. If you have health issues, then it's a good idea to stay home but for those who are healthy it's time to get back to work and to normal routines...
1 million out of 330 million Americans have had it so now we are safe?
Anyone in a high risk group should stay home. Do you mean all Villagers over 65?
Some great thoughts.
600th Photo Sq
04-28-2020, 08:08 PM
My wife and I moved to The Villages on April 28, 2019! We love it here! We really do! Periodically I pick one of the topics on this site by chance and read 10 or 15 comments! I didn’t know when we moved here that I also would come across (apparently) THE SMARTEST PEOPLE in THE GOOD ‘Ol 🇺🇸 USA! ... (tongue back in cheek).
I will add to your comments the most " Naïve " panic situation with so many it is really disappointing.
I would think that the senior population here would have a better inspiration to others instead of being in a panic mode.
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves sure it is terrible honestly get a grip.
Look back at 1914-18 War,
The Great Depression 1929-30's
Then World War II.
C'mon . For Crying Out Loud ! OMG
Topspinmo
04-28-2020, 09:44 PM
I play pickleball and I play golf. I have done neither for 43 days now. Until the numbers come down, the virus is still making its way through our community. We all need to participate in the effort to make this thing go away. It is not enough to think of protecting yourself. You must also think of others. Isn't that what we teach our children and grandchildren?
That’s fine for you, but rest of golfer have chopping along like nothing happened shut it all down, golf is no safer that other outdoor sports, but golf is money maker
morningfox2016
04-28-2020, 10:46 PM
Ditto!
argos5usa
04-28-2020, 11:41 PM
You can get the virus while you play pickle ball then we do not have to listen to you whining anymore. LIFT WEIGHTS AT HOME ,DO SIT UPS, RUN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES. GUYS LIKE YOU GOT SOME OF MY BUDDIES KILLED IN NAM
Hmm.
argos5usa
04-29-2020, 12:04 AM
1) The rec department is saving money by not allowing people to use recreation facilities; any savings should go back to those being denied usage;
2) Germophobe is an understatement for those who love to dictate and control others' behavior;
3) Keeping healthy people locked up inside is actually harming the population;
3) Being told to grow up by someone posting boxing emojis is laughable.
Topspinmo
04-29-2020, 08:29 AM
Just a FYI :
Tennis = Racket
Pickleball = Paddle
It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.
We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.
My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved
Guess you haven’t heard of the USTA? At least 10 times bigger that USPBA and hundred times more tournaments and leagues.
Now I agree where rec centers are close one needs to be tennis aNd other could to be pickleball. Saddlebrook and laurel manor good example. Make saddle brook tennis courts all pickleball ( that would be 12 courts total) and laurel manor all tennis ( would be three courts. ) I sure there are other examples like down canal street that has three rec center with tennis and pickleball side by side.
There lots of tennis players in villages, lot of pickleball players are ex-tennis players. Tennis lot more demanding and way higher learning curve. Takes months or years for some just to be able to rally point, let along serve. Pickleball like horseshoes, anybody can dink ball Or pitch ball over the net or step two or three steps left and right or too net.
Pickleball will never be big as tennis. Even if it ever makes it to national level and want TV coverage they will have to get rid of the side outs. Takes too long to complete game and all that dinking boring. Name one televised sports that has side outs now?
Topspinmo
04-29-2020, 08:31 AM
Hmm.
Wrong post
600th Photo Sq
04-29-2020, 08:48 AM
1 million out of 330 million Americans have had it so now we are safe?
Anyone in a high risk group should stay home. Do you mean all Villagers over 65?
Some great thoughts.
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.
That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:
Topspinmo
04-29-2020, 08:58 AM
In pickleball and tennis(my game) you have to handle the ball after another player has touched it. In golf(also my game), a player never touches another player's ball, nor a rake, nor the pin, as the game is now played.
But, when some spits on the course and you’re ball dribbles through it you just touch the inside of there mouth with you hand. Yes odds are astonishing, but not zero.
Topspinmo
04-29-2020, 09:00 AM
The pickle ball lines would be around the corner, standing 6 feet apart, think about that. Or on top of each other which is a bad thing
You mean like red sauce? Things are going to open in two weeks. Get use to it or stay home.
kansasr
04-29-2020, 09:21 AM
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.
That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:
Based on what we know now, those at high-risk for severe illness from COVID-19 are:
People 65 years and older
People who live in a nursing home or long-term care facility
HIgolfers
04-29-2020, 10:08 AM
Walked by sports pool today and lane ropes was installed.
Lane ropes were never taken down (at least at Colony).
xNYer
04-29-2020, 10:16 AM
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.
That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:
From the CDC
COVID-19 is a new disease and there is limited information regarding risk factors for severe disease. Based on currently available information and clinical expertise, older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions might be at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.
Jayhawk
04-29-2020, 10:17 AM
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.
That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:
Thank you, Doctor (I assume). You need to straighten out the government, the CDC, and the medical community while you're at it.
People Who Are at Higher Risk for Severe Illness | Coronavirus | COVID-19 | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/groups-at-higher-risk.html)
argos5usa
04-29-2020, 11:04 AM
But, when some spits on the course and you’re ball dribbles through it you just touch the inside of there mouth with you hand. Yes odds are astonishing, but not zero.
Yeah...about the same odds as being hit by a meteorite on the course...you convinced me, no more golf.
Topspinmo
04-29-2020, 06:26 PM
Yeah...about the same odds as being hit by a meteorite on the course...you convinced me, no more golf.
That still NOT zero. I sure you can’t stop why you’re posting. Golfers are NOT special, even though they think they are.
Bosoxfan
04-29-2020, 11:22 PM
Nope
twoplanekid
04-30-2020, 06:52 AM
Today, The Villages Rec. and Parks News alluded to the probability that pickleball might be in Phase III “Beyond the Month of May and Successful Completion of Phase II”. That is assuming that “ The District could include the additional openings of outdoor facilities and activities as well as the phasing in of District Support Services” is talking about pickleball.
Hopefully, we may be able to play sometime before the fall and a return of the virus.
Tennisbum
04-30-2020, 07:52 AM
Wearing gloves during this activity or any other sporting activity only increases the risk of spread. Unless you dispose of or sanitize the gloves after each use. Any virus would live all of the folds and creases in the gloves to hang out! Unless you take them off without touching the outside yo just moved any virus to your hand. Best bet is to play the game, and sanitize your paddle or racquet after the match and keep you hands away from your face and your fellow players! This advice came from a CDC friend who is pretty high up on the food chain!!
Altavia
04-30-2020, 08:03 AM
Wearing gloves during this activity or any other sporting activity only increases the risk of spread. Unless you dispose of or sanitize the gloves after each use. Any virus would live all of the folds and creases in the gloves to hang out! Unless you take them off without touching the outside yo just moved any virus to your hand. Best bet is to play the game, and sanitize your paddle or racquet after the match and keep you hands away from your face and your fellow players! This advice came from a CDC friend who is pretty high up on the food chain!!
Exactly - most people do not know how to use gloves correctly/effectively.
Another option is to carry hand sanitizer In your pocket and use it before and after touching something.
xcaligirl
04-30-2020, 08:11 AM
Thank you for the thoughtful response(s) but if "liability exposure" becomes the primary concern then they won't reopen for months..."assumption of the risk" should be a sufficient defense for the developer...wearing gloves won't protect you very much since you will likely touch other parts of your body with your glove...using outdoor exercise equipment is arguably much worse than touching a pickleball.
My point is that we have reached the point of diminishing returns on this lock down approach and entering the causing more harm than good phase and we need to move on.
I believe WE, under guidance of the Gov, are opening in PHASES.... Phase 1 starting Monday. Just because PB is not in phase 1, they are trying to open in phases! When Irma hit, pb courts were 'locked' and advised not to be used. What happened? People couldn't follow any rules, cut the zip ties and played!
twoplanekid
04-30-2020, 09:06 AM
I believe WE, under guidance of the Gov, are opening in PHASES.... Phase 1 starting Monday. Just because PB is not in phase 1, they are trying to open in phases! When Irma hit, pb courts were 'locked' and advised not to be used. What happened? People couldn't follow any rules, cut the zip ties and played!
Pickleball maybe in Phase III starting maybe some time in June.
see post 110
cmj1210
04-30-2020, 09:46 AM
Not until Phase III
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
Topspinmo
05-01-2020, 09:11 AM
I believe WE, under guidance of the Gov, are opening in PHASES.... Phase 1 starting Monday. Just because PB is not in phase 1, they are trying to open in phases! When Irma hit, pb courts were 'locked' and advised not to be used. What happened? People couldn't follow any rules, cut the zip ties and played!
Cause the hurricane passed. I don’t think could play in hurricane winds.
MichiganKid
05-01-2020, 11:38 AM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.. and yes we are paying amenity fees for no amenities. Where is this money x thousands of residents that isn’t being used going. No expense on balls, maintenance , staff to handle job responsibilities related.. sad...
MichiganKid
05-01-2020, 11:53 AM
Pickleball less activity than walking, you obviously are a very low level player or never played..and staying in the home is physically detrimental, not just psychological ,, no sun light is very bad..
MichiganKid
05-01-2020, 11:55 AM
Villages dont care, free money, there similar to a health club, you pay monthly weather your using the facility or not...
JoMar
05-01-2020, 02:04 PM
This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.. and yes we are paying amenity fees for no amenities. Where is this money x thousands of residents that isn’t being used going. No expense on balls, maintenance , staff to handle job responsibilities related.. sad...
Seems you might be the only person that understands this virus. Seems all the international docs and scientists are still trying to understand it. Why aren't you offering your expertise to them to help us all rather than wasting it on here talking about pickleball.
Langwelld
05-01-2020, 02:37 PM
I love Pb but the problem is packed lines waiting to play.
xNYer
05-01-2020, 04:29 PM
This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.. and yes we are paying amenity fees for no amenities. Where is this money x thousands of residents that isn’t being used going. No expense on balls, maintenance , staff to handle job responsibilities related.. sad...
Nice to know that a physiologist is more knowledgeable about the spread of the coronavirus than a epidemiologist or physicians who specialize in infectious disease. What are your actual qualifications?
Topspinmo
05-02-2020, 08:10 AM
Seems you might be the only person that understands this virus. Seems all the international docs and scientists are still trying to understand it. Why aren't you offering your expertise to them to help us all rather than wasting it on here talking about pickleball.
I bet you’re on the golf course everyday.
Topspinmo
05-02-2020, 08:12 AM
Nice to know that a physiologist is more knowledgeable about the spread of the coronavirus than a epidemiologist or physicians who specialize in infectious disease. What are your actual qualifications?
Yep, I sure the tested pickleball ball or tennis ball.
graciegirl
05-02-2020, 08:38 AM
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.
That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:
Really? Really? Than please link us to a valid link from a respected authority on Covid-19.
graciegirl
05-02-2020, 08:56 AM
This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.. and yes we are paying amenity fees for no amenities. Where is this money x thousands of residents that isn’t being used going. No expense on balls, maintenance , staff to handle job responsibilities related.. sad...
Requirements for Becoming an Exercise Physiologist
Simply put, there are no nationally standardized academic, certification or licensure requirements to practice as an exercise physiologist as the profession is currently unregulated. Among the primary reasons behind why EP isn’t recognized in this manner has to do with its relatively new emergence as an “official” profession in health care. However, this is not to say that industry standards haven’t been established in an attempt to help define requirements needed for practice.
Can you Michigan Kid, tell us about how the body's anti-virus army reacts to Covid-19?
LiverpoolWalrus
05-02-2020, 09:25 AM
Originally Posted by MichiganKid View Post
This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.
Nice to know that a physiologist is more knowledgeable about the spread of the coronavirus than a epidemiologist or physicians who specialize in infectious disease. What are your actual qualifications?
From what I understand about the virus, I agree with Michigan Kid. What epidemiologist or infectious disease physician has even weighed in on pickleball? Covid-19 is contagious, yes very contagious, but not as contagious as the media has caused everyone to believe. Take a minute to think about it and reflect on all the people who are regularly around people who are positive. Not all of them follow the guidelines all the time, some never follow the guidelines or didn't in the beginning, but yet only a small fraction have been infected. Think about postal workers, military service members, grocery store cashiers, etc. And remember that "epidemiologists and infectious disease physicians" have said repeatedly that it isn't likely you'll get Covid-19 by touching something. How Coronavirus Spreads | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html)
It's human nature to worry, though, so I understand both viewpoints. Read more about that in this article if you like.
4 Ways Your Worries Can Get Out of Control | Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-we-worry/201604/4-ways-your-worries-can-get-out-control)
roob1
05-02-2020, 09:26 AM
Where did he say he was an EXERCISE physiologist? There are other types requiring a Masters or Doctorate.
What is a Physiologist? (https://www.masterspublichealth.net/faq/what-is-a-physiologist/)
Requirements for Becoming an Exercise Physiologist
Simply put, there are no nationally standardized academic, certification or licensure requirements to practice as an exercise physiologist as the profession is currently unregulated. Among the primary reasons behind why EP isn’t recognized in this manner has to do with its relatively new emergence as an “official” profession in health care. However, this is not to say that industry standards haven’t been established in an attempt to help define requirements needed for practice.
Can you Michigan Kid, tell us about how the bodies anti-virus army reacts to Covid-19?
graciegirl
05-02-2020, 09:56 AM
Where did he say he was an EXERCISE physiologist? There are other types requiring a Masters or Doctorate.
What is a Physiologist? (https://www.masterspublichealth.net/faq/what-is-a-physiologist/)
You are right Roob and I was wrong. There are all kinds of people who are physiologists in many fields. However I have never met one hell bent on playing pickleball in a community whose average age is 71 during a pandemic that kills WAY TOO MANY older people.
CFrance
05-13-2020, 10:41 PM
Golf is open throughout this state and up the east coast. PA recently opened golf while keeping everything else closed in the SE part of the state. I don't believe Pickleball is open anywhere in Florida. It's not just here.....medical folks know why, golfers know why, government agencies know why,.... it has been explained here many times so why don't pickleball players know why?
I know of three other communities that never shut down their pickleball courts throughout the whole Florida lockdown.
DDVeteran
05-13-2020, 10:50 PM
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.
Take a jog around your neighborhood.
fishon
05-14-2020, 05:00 AM
Pickle ball and tennis should stay shut down forever.
It’s a racquet!
Altavia
05-14-2020, 12:18 PM
According to this mornings Recreation News, Paddle sports and Softball resume 18 May.
amexsbow
05-14-2020, 01:15 PM
FLASH: Life is fatal. Scientists predict everyone will die, it is only a matter of time. So get a life. Find something to enjoy, and live. I am playing pickleball with a about 8-10 other friends who all feel like we are taking precautions and if we get it so what. You have to die from something. I rather go enjoying life than being a prisoner in my own home. I did not retire to remain in a prison, even if I am the one who bought and decorated it.
Tennisbum
05-14-2020, 01:38 PM
We have been playing tennis and pickleball the whole time in Leesburg. Have not lost a player yet. A little input on the gloves. Don't wear them or rely on them. They just keep any bacteria you do come into contact with for a longer period and give you a false sense of security. Sanitize hands before and after playing, unless you want to replace you gloves every time or have an autoclave handy!
JoMar
05-14-2020, 01:57 PM
I know of three other communities that never shut down their pickleball courts throughout the whole Florida lockdown.
Three, out of all the communites in FL you know three? They publish the golf courses, all of them, maybe PB should do the same? They should also include the number of players, the golf community does publish the number of rounds. I just have a difficult time knowing that some of the smartest people in each State make these decisions yet users throw all that out because it doesn't meet their needs.
CFrance
05-14-2020, 06:49 PM
Three, out of all the communites in FL you know three? They publish the golf courses, all of them, maybe PB should do the same? They should also include the number of players, the golf community does publish the number of rounds. I just have a difficult time knowing that some of the smartest people in each State make these decisions yet users throw all that out because it doesn't meet their needs.
Just my personal knowledge. Don't need to be jumped all over. I was just stating that other communities kept their pickleball courts open. Now I know four, since another poster states he's been playing in Leesburg.
600th Photo Sq
05-14-2020, 07:24 PM
Pickleball should be allowed. Equipment needed: ball, racquet, glove, sanitizer, and common sense. Not having all is a disqualifier.
Uhummm In order to play Pickleball ya need a Paddle not a Racquet .
Racquets are for Tennis or Racketeers. Just a FYI. :shocked:
600th Photo Sq
05-14-2020, 07:35 PM
" Will you sign a waiver that allows the taking of a loved one of yours when your actions whether on purpose or accidental takes another's loved one? "
What on earth? Has everyone become insane? Or just a vocal few?
Look...It's really simple....If you want to play pickleball with me or anyone else, you are assuming the risk that you might get hurt, either by getting hit by the ball, falling or impacted by a sneeze, cough or touch containing bacteria, viruses or germs....If you don't want to play, stay home, wear your mask, watch MSNBC and live in fear.
Like I said...it's really simple.
Actually the Governor stated it is safer outdoors than vs staying indoors.
And I question you on your comment on Loved Ones vs Unloved Ones .
Please Explain. Cuddles vs No Cuddles :ohdear:
GoodLife
05-14-2020, 08:08 PM
Pickler: I wanna play!
Anti Pickler: You're gonna kill us all!
Pickler: Science studies say 99.5% of all infections happen indoors
Anti Pickler: You might infect me at the supermarket!
Pickler: I use delivery and curbside pickup. You should too
Anti Pickler: But I like to pick out my own fresh produce and squeeze the peaches
Pickler: You're gonna kill us all!!!
600th Photo Sq
05-16-2020, 02:45 PM
I love Pb but the problem is packed lines waiting to play.
Not the case @ Lake Miona, to the best of my knowledge not a lot of players go there.
Quite a few players have drifted to Burnsed and Colony. Very good play at Lake Miona 3.0 to 4.0 .
Hey have fun and burn off those calories. :)
Tennisbum
05-16-2020, 02:57 PM
[QUOTE=600th Photo Sq;1755371] Just a FYI :
Tennis = Racket
Pickleball = Paddle
It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.
We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.
My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved
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Ever watched the FSU or Florida pickle ball players tourney? That's because they don't have one! Ever watched pro pickle head players at the Open in New York? Not gonna happen! I played my first game last year for grins.....10 minutes I was kicking the butts off of players who have played for years. I have two friends who have no athletic ability at all, showed them how to play and in an hour they were playing just fine. It's a game for the non-athletic masses.....no skills needed!!!:clap2:
JoMar
05-16-2020, 05:07 PM
[QUOTE=600th Photo Sq;1755371] Just a FYI :
Tennis = Racket
Pickleball = Paddle
It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.
We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.
My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved
[/QUOTEU
Ever watched the FSU or Florida pickle ball players tourney? That's because they don't have one! Ever watched pro pickle head players at the Open in New York? Not gonna happen! I played my first game last year for grins.....10 minutes I was kicking the butts off of players who have played for years. I have two friends who have no athletic ability at all, showed them how to play and in an hour they were playing just fine. It's a game for the non-athletic masses.....no skills needed!!!:clap2:
Might want to Google the National Pickleball Tournament and the National player ratings. In 2019 ESPN televised the tournament. Might require more skill than you think :)
Topspinmo
05-16-2020, 09:29 PM
[QUOTE=600th Photo Sq;1755371] Just a FYI :
Tennis = Racket
Pickleball = Paddle
It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.
We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.
My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved
[/QUOTEU
Ever watched the FSU or Florida pickle ball players tourney? That's because they don't have one! Ever watched pro pickle head players at the Open in New York? Not gonna happen! I played my first game last year for grins.....10 minutes I was kicking the butts off of players who have played for years. I have two friends who have no athletic ability at all, showed them how to play and in an hour they were playing just fine. It's a game for the non-athletic masses.....no skills needed!!!:clap2:
Playing just fine and playing at national level is like light years apart.
I dough you played with highly ranked players, just cause you show up At court don’t mean They are Top level players. Average level player in villages 3.0 or Maybe 3.5. You rarely find the 5.0 players Out with the hackers. Just like in tennis, you won’t see division 1 player, player with recreational players.
Now I agree it’s easy to pick up for anybody that’s played racketball, table tennis, and of course tennis players pick it up really quick. They have Pickleball national events and you don’t see it as big as pro or division 1 tennis. I have doubts it will even become national televised due to the side outs. Just takes too long to complete game. And the dinking at net gets boring to watch. But, it’s time it takes to complete game when players play at division 1 or pro level when compared to tennis.
Drop by Becall on Wednesday’s try singles pickleball, I think you will like it. In singles played more like tennis, you have to work you’re way to net, and yes, you can get passed easily. Just like tennis.
twoplanekid
05-18-2020, 02:29 PM
I played pickleball this morning after the two month layoff because of the virus. I was a little bit rusty but happy to play with everyone I knew from before the time out. However, I must remember to not walk several miles before playing as I am now a little tuckered out. The walking was done to keep me in shape while not playing pickleball and I walked today because I didn’t know if I would be able to play. I had no issues with the new rules for accessing the courts and the playing time allowed. Great to be back at a game I enjoy.
CFrance
05-18-2020, 04:36 PM
I played pickleball this morning after the two month layoff because of the virus. I was a little bit rusty but happy to play with everyone I knew from before the time out. However, I must remember to not walk several miles before playing as I am now a little tuckered out. The walking was done to keep me in shape while not playing pickleball and I walked today because I didn’t know if I would be able to play. I had no issues with the new rules for accessing the courts and the playing time allowed. Great to be back at a game I enjoy.
Was it Open Play? If so, where was it, and how many people were there?
twoplanekid
05-18-2020, 06:12 PM
Was it Open Play? If so, where was it, and how many people were there?
It was open play with many friends I have come to know who also enjoy this game. Three courts were open with people leaving the court to let others who had to wait outside the courts to enter and play. As there were very few waiting, I played many games without having to leave the court. I really hate to mention where I was playing because I would not want to encourage the masses to play at this location. I will give a hint in that it’s the closest courts to my house in Lake Deaton. :icon_wink:
For most of the time, two Village staffers manned the gate to make sure everything was done correctly. And yes, Village IDs were checked.
twoplanekid
06-08-2020, 08:43 AM
Today (6/8/20), pickleball was back to normal as all courts were open, no sanitizing of the balls and no staff to direct people off the courts. Should the courts have been closed for two months and is it too early to fully open them now? At some point in time I guess history will be the judge.
Debbraham
07-16-2020, 07:01 PM
While playing pickleball with my normal group today someone asked if I played with a guy, name starts with a B. I was told his girlfriend has tested positive, and he is out there playing pickleball. Just thought it was fair to give anyone who cares a heads up! Not sure it’s very responsible to keep playing in public when you are living with someone who has tested positive and not telling anyone or giving people a choice if they want to play Pb with you!
CFrance
07-16-2020, 07:13 PM
Can you name a location where he plays?
Marvic 1
07-16-2020, 07:17 PM
This guy should be pointed out to the authorities and to this community for him trying to spread the virus to his fellow Villagers....
fdpaq0580
07-17-2020, 06:21 AM
Ok all you pickle ball aficionados, how about giving badminton a try. You could set up a net in your front yard or driveway. No one can shut down then and you could still get the exercise you crave.
Just a thought.
graciegirl
07-17-2020, 06:39 AM
Bet you’re playing golf, shut that ____ down then.
Read some obituaries, quite few said they was avid golfers? I wonder when virus patients are asked questions? Is one question have you been playing golf? I haven’t read one that said they were avid pickleball or tennis players? Maybe someone needs to connect the dots?
In golf you just touch your own ball(s).
You don't touch anyone else's ball(s).
You don't have to get close to anyone and keeping your mouth shut and keeping away from others is part of the game.
You don't touch the pin these days.
Folks ride alone to and from Golf.
Golf is safer than tennis or pickleball.
It is wise not to touch anyone else's ball (s) during this troubling time.
CanTho
07-17-2020, 07:39 AM
I agree with you however, Golf is " Boring " compared to Tennis and Pickleball.
Polar Bear
07-17-2020, 08:38 AM
I agree with you however, Golf is " Boring " compared to Tennis and Pickleball.
Yeah. That’s why nobody plays golf. :)
dewilson58
07-17-2020, 08:42 AM
In golf you just touch your own ball(s). You don't touch anyone else's ball(s).
:a040:
EdFNJ
07-23-2020, 08:11 PM
In golf you just touch your own ball(s).
You don't touch anyone else's ball(s).
You don't have to get close to anyone and keeping your mouth shut and keeping away from others is part of the game.
You don't touch the pin these days.
Folks ride alone to and from Golf.
Golf is safer than tennis or pickleball.
It is wise not to touch anyone else's ball (s) during this troubling time.
TMI ! Golfers must have very hairy palms. ;)
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