Health workers not masked today's Sun

[blueash]

For those of you who read the Daily Sun, look at page 1. There is Becky Pilipow, co-owner of Edible Arrangements delivering food to a Nursing Home. And she is not wearing a mask. Now turn to page A5 where we again see Becky preparing the food, no mask. Also a smiling Carolina Portilla, CNA at the Villages Hospital working without mask [or gloves] with food sent by a restaurant.
Bonus points to Mary Alice Lewis, director of nursing at the nursing home, she IS wearing a mask.

You're taking food to a nursing home, the highest risk place for COVID, and not taking a simple precaution in case you are an asymptomatic spreader? And you work in a hospital, also high risk? Thank you for donating, thank you for being a health care worker, but Wow, just wow.

[thelegges]

Does Anyone know the stats on the assisted living here?

[B767drvr]

...but Wow, just wow.

I'll see your "Wow, just wow," and raise you a W-O-W!!! :ohdear:

Coronavirus spreads in a New York nursing home forced to take recovering patients (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-spreads-new-york-nursing-home-forced-take-recovering-patients-n1191811)

[davem4616]

let's hope that those shots were 'staged photo ops' for the DS photographer

[Villageswimmer]

let's hope that those shots were 'staged photo ops' for the DS photographer

If they were staged, someone should have thought about the example they were setting.

No social distancing, either. The ladies on the front page were no more than 2 feet from each other.

[JoMar]

From the Food and Drug Administration:

Avoiding Foodborne Illness

Currently there is no evidence of food or food packaging being associated with transmission of COVID-19.

Foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, can make people ill through contaminated food. SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness.

FDA advises we all adopt everyday safe food handling

This has been reported through various news outlets for weeks. Masks provide a limited protection for the other person, not the wearer. The Health care workers know this.

[CFrance]

From the Food and Drug Administration:

Avoiding Foodborne Illness

Currently there is no evidence of food or food packaging being associated with transmission of COVID-19.

Foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, can make people ill through contaminated food. SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness.

FDA advises we all adopt everyday safe food handling

This has been reported through various news outlets for weeks. Masks provide a limited protection for the other person, not the wearer. The Health care workers know this.
So does this mean when a Jersey Mikes sub preparer with covid-19 sneezes and gets it on the sub your about to eat, or the wrapper you're going to be touching, you won't get the virus?


Why not?

[Villageswimmer]

From the Food and Drug Administration:

Avoiding Foodborne Illness

Currently there is no evidence of food or food packaging being associated with transmission of COVID-19.

Foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, can make people ill through contaminated food. SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness.

FDA advises we all adopt everyday safe food handling

This has been reported through various news outlets for weeks. Masks provide a limited protection for the other person, not the wearer. The Health care workers know this.

Perhaps not a “food borne virus” like norovirus, but extremely contagious. I hope these health care workers, whom you allege know what they’re doing, are wearing their masks around the Assisted Living residents. Of all places!

[Skunky1]

Hope she didn’t cough or sneeze on your food

[Girlcopper]

For those of you who read the Daily Sun, look at page 1. There is Becky Pilipow, co-owner of Edible Arrangements delivering food to a Nursing Home. And she is not wearing a mask. Now turn to page A5 where we again see Becky preparing the food, no mask. Also a smiling Carolina Portilla, CNA at the Villages Hospital working without mask [or gloves] with food sent by a restaurant.
Bonus points to Mary Alice Lewis, director of nursing at the nursing home, she IS wearing a mask.

You're taking food to a nursing home, the highest risk place for COVID, and not taking a simple precaution in case you are an asymptomatic spreader? And you work in a hospital, also high risk? Thank you for donating, thank you for being a health care worker, but Wow, just wow.

Wow is right. Have another cup of coffee and find something else to whine about. Its probably a staged picture but they should have realized that some people are just looking for something negative to say so......I guess the good this person is doing is just minimized while we blow up the mask issue. Geeez

[billethkid]

They know what they are doing or not. Right along with the braggadocious few who keep claiming to not have and will never wear a mask.
Without enforcement this is what you get.

[blueash]

Those your talking about get test every single day with a zero chance of infecting others......

I am always impressed at the psychic abilities and infectious disease expertise to be found on this website. All I could find is a statement that he is tested "regularly" and you get every day from that? Regularly could be weekly or biweekly or anything. And of course a negative test does no mean you are not infectious as it has been very clearly shown that there are often false negative tests. So your [correct use of your as opposed to when you should use you're] statement of zero chance is wrong. More wrong is the belief of any person that their personal opinion overrides the hospital's requirement that everyone wear a mask. It does not say everyone but a politician.

You can read the Mayo Clinic's posted requirement that everyone wear a mask.
click on this sentence :
Beginning today (Monday, April 13), Mayo Clinic is requiring all patients and visitors to wear a face covering or mask to help slow the spread of COVID-19. (https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-requiring-all-patients-visitors-to-wear-masks/)

To quote Orwell in Animal Farm : ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It doesn't look as though she was actually entering the nursing home, and the person receiving the package was wearing a mask. I'm of two minds about this:

1. Wearing masks in the general public should really not be a "thing" unless social distancing isn't practical.

2. I feel it might've been more appropriate for the Edible Arrangements woman to set the food down on a chair/table (something brought outside for her to put it on), or on the ground, and then take a couple steps back while the woman taking the packages took them. They could've gotten a nice photo of both women, with the packages in the nurse's hands, from a 5-6 foot distance, and neither of them would've needed to wear masks and we could've seen both of their smiling faces.

[billethkid]

When anything is left to the judgement of the individual VS mandatory.....compliance will be to each his own.
No right or wrong.....totally unenforceable.

[blueash]

It doesn't look as though she was actually entering the nursing home, and the person receiving the package was wearing a mask. I'm of two minds about this:

1. Wearing masks in the general public should really not be a "thing" unless social distancing isn't practical.

2. I feel it might've been more appropriate for the Edible Arrangements woman to set the food down on a chair/table (something brought outside for her to put it on), or on the ground, and then take a couple steps back while the woman taking the packages took them. They could've gotten a nice photo of both women, with the packages in the nurse's hands, from a 5-6 foot distance, and neither of them would've needed to wear masks and we could've seen both of their smiling faces.

Thanks for a thoughtful contribution. My issue is that it is impossible to maintain social distancing when you are handing something to a person, and clearly in the photo two people are near each other. The big thing in my mind is that this is a long term care facility. That is the worst place to have COVID introduced.

While the care director is wearing a cloth mask, that is nearly useless in protecting her from catching COVID if she is exposed. Cloth and paper masks are to prevent an infectious person from spreading. So if the food preparer has COVID that mask on the recipient is not of any known benefit. The obligation is on the sick person, even an asymptomatic person, to wear a mask to not be capable of spreading COVID to a nursing home.

[blueash]

Lest anyone think that ignoring warnings aimed at mere mortals (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pence-nasa-do-not-touch/) is something new...

[Lindsyburnsy]

How about Mike Pence yesterday at Mayo Clinic without a mask, even though he was told about their policy to wear masks hospital-wide. Shouldn't he be setting an example?

[billethkid]

How about Mike Pence yesterday at Mayo Clinic without a mask, even though he was told about their policy to wear masks hospital-wide. Shouldn't he be setting an example?

Well he is doing that!

[Marvic 1]

All I could find is a statement that he is tested "regularly" and you get every day from that?.
For your information "Regularly" could mean every-hour or so which is more then every day. So he could be more safe then you and I thought....

[queasy27]

So does this mean when a Jersey Mikes sub preparer with covid-19 sneezes and gets it on the sub your about to eat, or the wrapper you're going to be touching, you won't get the virus?

Preliminary research suggests that virus aerosols may also be spread simply by breathing; no sneezes or coughs required!

I'm somewhat heartened by the decrease in daily covid deaths throughout the world. NY is less than half of what it was a couple of weeks ago and quite a few states are now in the single digits. I personally believe it's due to isolation measures, but it's nonetheless comforting that the worst case scenarios have not come to pass.

Estimates about the total number of unreported infections are orders of magnitude different, but it's also true that our area has not been severely hit. My fingers are crossed that it continues as restrictions are lifted.

I'm immunocompromised and will continue to stay home, but I do feel better about grocery stores and take-out from restaurants, just from an odds standpoint.

[Bogie Shooter]

Do as I say......not as I do.

[Fenster]

Shame on the people you mention and shame on the nursing homes for allowing this!

[coffeebean]

From the Food and Drug Administration:

Avoiding Foodborne Illness

Currently there is no evidence of food or food packaging being associated with transmission of COVID-19.

Foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, can make people ill through contaminated food. SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness.

FDA advises we all adopt everyday safe food handling

This has been reported through various news outlets for weeks. Masks provide a limited protection for the other person, not the wearer. The Health care workers know this.

What if the packaging of food is sneezed on or coughed on by an asymptomatic carrier of the virus? The virus can be transmitted that way when another person touches the food packaging. How can the FDA guarantee this scenario can not happen? IMHO, the FDA can not.

[coffeebean]

So does this mean when a Jersey Mikes sub preparer with covid-19 sneezes and gets it on the sub your about to eat, or the wrapper you're going to be touching, you won't get the virus?


Why not?

Of course you can. That is the point I just made with my previous post. I don't like to think this but, I'm not so sure I have complete confidence in the FDA.

[coffeebean]

Wow is right. Have another cup of coffee and find something else to whine about. Its probably a staged picture but they should have realized that some people are just looking for something negative to say so......I guess the good this person is doing is just minimized while we blow up the mask issue. Geeez

Sorry, but I don't see it this way. Americans need to have good examples set for them. Not wearing masks in these scenarios is not setting a good example.

[coffeebean]

How about Mike Pence yesterday at Mayo Clinic without a mask, even though he was told about their policy to wear masks hospital-wide. Shouldn't he be setting an example?

Pence has since admitted he should have worn a mask. At least he admitted it.

[golfing eagles]

Thanks for a thoughtful contribution. My issue is that it is impossible to maintain social distancing when you are handing something to a person, and clearly in the photo two people are near each other. The big thing in my mind is that this is a long term care facility. That is the worst place to have COVID introduced.

While the care director is wearing a cloth mask, that is nearly useless in protecting her from catching COVID if she is exposed. Cloth and paper masks are to prevent an infectious person from spreading. So if the food preparer has COVID that mask on the recipient is not of any known benefit. The obligation is on the sick person, even an asymptomatic person, to wear a mask to not be capable of spreading COVID to a nursing home.

Correct