Whooo Phase 1 Monday

[thelegges]

Restaurants and retail can open on Monday per phase 1 guidelines :a040::a040:
Sorry no salons gyms

[rjn5656]

what is phase 1 guidelines

[Kahiland]

There are restrictions on restaurants. Only 25% capacity. I am in no rush.

[Mleeja]

I don’t see much changing around here. There still is a limit on groups of ten or less. No pools, no pickleball, no tennis, no softball, no fitness centers, no entertainment on the squares... Get the idea?

[billethkid]

What will change will be the loss of several small business that may not survive at undetermined reduced rates for an undetermined time frame.

Where are you going to get your haircut? Hair salon? To name a couple.

Most residents will manage through.....many small businesses might not!

[Topspinmo]

I don’t see much changing around here. There still is a limit on groups of ten or less. No pools, no pickleball, no tennis, no softball, no fitness centers, no entertainment on the squares... Get the idea?


Comes probably the second week?

[Velvet]

This is great news, the indicators of Covid seem to be favorable to areas of Florida. Thanks to those of you who followed guidelines, and no thanks to those who didn’t. We survived in spite of you!

[rustyp]

Can I get a haircut on monday per the new guidelines ? I want one but my better half says leave it - you look like wild Bill from deadliest catch.

[thelegges]

Can I get a haircut on monday per the new guidelines ? I want one but my better half says leave it - you look like wild Bill from deadliest catch.

No salons, barbershop, gyms, so I am guessing no tattoo parlors.

Retail for the small businesses, even with restrictions on percentage of people will be an improvement for them.

We ate at the restaurants just before the complete closure. Tables inside were spaces out, as well as outside

[kcrazorbackfan]

Restaurants and retail can open on Monday per phase 1 guidelines :a040::a040:
Sorry no salons gyms

And the curve will start back up because The Village Idiots will think everything is over..... :boom:

[thelegges]

And the curve will start back up because The Village Idiots will think everything is over..... :boom:

Did you just call me an idiot, for hoping that small business can reopen, and hopefully put food on their table. Hopefully you will remain in your home, until you no longer fear.

[chet2020]

There are restrictions on restaurants. Only 25% capacity. I am in no rush.

Agreed, I think far fewer people than many expect will be rushing out to dine-in at restaurants.

[Marvic 1]

Agreed, I think far fewer people than many expect will be rushing out to dine-in at restaurants.

I don't agree, remember many have been stuck inside the house, some don't know how to cook and recently they got an extra $1200 in their pocket and are dying to spend it....

[tophcfa]

No salons, barbershop, gyms, so I am guessing no tattoo parlors.

Retail for the small businesses, even with restrictions on percentage of people will be an improvement for them.

We ate at the restaurants just before the complete closure. Tables inside were spaces out, as well as outside

Dam, so I guess I can't get that tattoo that I never wanted and will never get. And to make matters worse, I can't get the few grey hairs remaining on my head groomed. Oh well, tomorrow won't be any worse because of that.

[Topspinmo]

Did you just call me an idiot, for hoping that small business can reopen, and hopefully put food on their table. Hopefully you will remain in your home, until you no longer fear.

I think was referring To history of red sauce diners.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Did you just call me an idiot, for hoping that small business can reopen, and hopefully put food on their table. Hopefully you will remain in your home, until you no longer fear.

I DO NOT remain in my home; I work with the public 4 days a week. I DO wear gloves and a mask because I do not know the people I come in contact with, where they've been or who they have been around.

There are too many people here in TV that think the world revolves around them and don't care if they infect anyone; those are The Village Idiots.

If the shoe fits......

[Velvet]

Like the way you call it.

[patfla06]

I don't agree, remember many have been stuck inside the house, some don't know how to cook and recently they got an extra $1200 in their pocket and are dying to spend it....

I think most people at our age know how to cook.
They may no longer want to but they know how.

[Wiserbud47]

What will change will be the loss of several small business that may not survive at undetermined reduced rates for an undetermined time frame.

Where are you going to get your haircut? Hair salon? To name a couple.

Most residents will manage through.....many small businesses might not!

It was just announced that TooJays is filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. They are the first of many businesses that will show what this shutdown has done to the small businesses of the Villages and the country.

[graciegirl]

Did you just call me an idiot, for hoping that small business can reopen, and hopefully put food on their table. Hopefully you will remain in your home, until you no longer fear.

I am guessing you must be under 65 to not be concerned getting Covid-19? Of course we are all worried about business. The economic onslaught on the entire world will cause all of us harm no matter if we have savings. I am wondering since we have not seen the full year cycle with this new virus, if it wanes during the summer like the seasonal flu? Since I am in the most risky segment, over 80, I will be outdoors on my front porch and cutting a few roses back as I watch my husband trim the trees and bushes. It seems so clear to me that most of us in The Villages do not need to risk getting this nasty virus because of it's heightened attack of the lungs and oxygenation. I am so grateful to see that younger people are not so at risk of death.

[kansasr]

I don't agree, remember many have been stuck inside the house, some don't know how to cook and recently they got an extra $1200 in their pocket and are dying to spend it....
Emphasis on “dying” to spend it

[Shyer]

😂 too funny.

[davem4616]

There are restrictions on restaurants. Only 25% capacity. I am in no rush.


neither am I in a rush ….they're all entering a totally new business model...and it will take awhile for them to get it right (as well as for the public to understand it)

last thing I'm interested in is jockeying with a bunch of hungry folks rubbing elbows with me trying to get in before me by cutting the line

if I don't want to cook I'll go to a business that already had a 'take out' window service as part of their business model (and we'll eat in the car...just like we did in the old days
at the car hops)

[davem4616]

No salons, barbershop, gyms, so I am guessing no tattoo parlors.

Retail for the small businesses, even with restrictions on percentage of people will be an improvement for them.

We ate at the restaurants just before the complete closure. Tables inside were spaces out, as well as outside



tattoo parlors can remain closed forever as far as I'm concerned....getting inked up isn't appealing to me in the least

[024engine]

Remember the flu and the drivers here? Better stay in forever!

[Denvercane]

I don't agree, remember many have been stuck inside the house, some don't know how to cook and recently they got an extra $1200 in their pocket and are dying to spend it....

You are over 60 and don't know how to cook?. What else can't you do.. $1200 in the big scheme doesn't do anything to help long term

[rlcooper70]

Change can indeed occur ... with some intelligent and thoughtful decisions. Pools - ten people. Simple. Restaurants - outdoor dining and spacing. Golf ... open the courses until 6 PM.

Question: Why are they restrictive with golf? Saving money on employees? What else?

[vinricci]

Brothels?

[vintageogauge]

It was just announced that TooJays is filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. They are the first of many businesses that will show what this shutdown has done to the small businesses of the Villages and the country.

Yep, they'll stick it to their creditors, stay in business free of debt and come out of it smelling like a rose. The ones that will get hurt are the creditors. Taking advantage of the system, happens every time there is a downturn in the economy and it is totally legal.

[pooderpask]

I am so glad we are starting to move on. View this YouTube to better understand why continuing to shelter is not the best idea.
Doctor Says 6 Feet Apart, We Are All Dead 153news.net - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjtDH__Px4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3YBAyDRo_sPUq9lytCA1tJ_BzcEUBsXj9L5vp2s sq6qzMAGLlb_y9KpaA)

[Bill1701]

Change can indeed occur ... with some intelligent and thoughtful decisions. Pools - ten people. Simple. Restaurants - outdoor dining and spacing. Golf ... open the courses until 6 PM.

Question: Why are they restrictive with golf? Saving money on employees? What else?
Not enough employees to staff the courses until 6. Many are staying home due to the virus.

[ficoguy]

Restaurants and retail can open on Monday per phase 1 guidelines :a040::a040:
Sorry no salons gyms
But will restaurants have any food to serve?

[Bill1701]

Emphasis on “dying” to spend it

You must be one of those who said all the pickelball players were going to die. Didn't happen. Then it was all the golfers were going to die. Didn't happen. The new one is all the people who don't wear a mask and gloves. They are still not dying either.

[lynnschindel]

Lol!!

[twoplanekid]

A picture is worth a thousand words



Looking at a picture of the arrangement of tables/chairs at a Rec. Center in Phase II, I might suggest to residents that along with masks, gloves and hand sanitizers one might also bring extra batteries for hearing aids, megaphones and binoculars. Now, what else might one need? :icon_wink:

[lynnschindel]

I was laughing at "Village idiots."

[Bogie Shooter]

Brothels?
Continue to wear masks.......😈

[PJackpot]

Creditors get left out in the cold in a chapter 7 filing, but not chapter 11, as TooJays has filed. However, the other side of that coin is that only 25% of companies that file chapter 11 survive. A lot of them simply convert to chapter 7 and liquidate all assets if the debt load becomes more than their revenue can support. In that situation, certain creditors would receive a portion of the liquidated asset value. This is what happens when the government forces businesses to close and shuts down a 20 trillion dollar economy. Those of you who were in favor, said you were willing to pay the price, and so you shall. And so shall your children and your grandchildren. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Paula]

Restaurants and retail can open on Monday per phase 1 guidelines :a040::a040:
Sorry no salons gyms
Someone please explain how people will eat at restaurants while wearing masks.

[deanjohnson]

The guidance is outside activities are good , then why are we not opening tennis courts etc. OTE=Mleeja;1755897]I don’t see much changing around here. There still is a limit on groups of ten or less. No pools, no pickleball, no tennis, no softball, no fitness centers, no entertainment on the squares... Get the idea?[/QUOTE]

[mikeritz53]

I don’t see much changing around here. There still is a limit on groups of ten or less. No pools, no pickleball, no tennis, no softball, no fitness centers, no entertainment on the squares... Get the idea?

Pools are opening Monday with limitations. I would imagine if things go well then other openings will follow,

[Altavia]

Someone please explain how people will eat at restaurants while wearing masks.

And swimming?

[richl]

why not gyms with the requirement to wear masks?

[zmarkp]

Anyone want to carpool to Georgia for a haircut?...

[coffeebean]

A picture is worth a thousand words



Looking at a picture of the arrangement of tables/chairs at a Rec. Center in Phase II, I might suggest to residents that along with masks, gloves and hand sanitizers one might also bring extra batteries for hearing aids, megaphones and binoculars. Now, what else might one need? :icon_wink:

Will people be sitting across from each other at the tables? That is not 6 feet separation.

[44Apple]

It ain't over til it's over.

[Altavia]

Will people be sitting across from each other at the tables? That is not 6 feet separation.

Of course not, one chair per table, at least 6ft spacing.

[Juliebythesea]

Agreed I’m still staying home
Let’s see how it goes
A live test

[arickis]

Pools are re opening on Monday

[ficoguy]

The problem with the Town Squares is that they can be used by the general population (genpop) and it seems they are less cautious than residents. I guess we will have the Yellow Vests CERT team being the Face Police?

[vintageogauge]

Creditors get left out in the cold in a chapter 7 filing, but not chapter 11, as TooJays has filed. However, the other side of that coin is that only 25% of companies that file chapter 11 survive. A lot of them simply convert to chapter 7 and liquidate all assets if the debt load becomes more than their revenue can support. In that situation, certain creditors would receive a portion of the liquidated asset value. This is what happens when the government forces businesses to close and shuts down a 20 trillion dollar economy. Those of you who were in favor, said you were willing to pay the price, and so you shall. And so shall your children and your grandchildren. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Smaller creditors have no say in the proceedings and in most cases are not secured. You cannot blame this on the government, if you are running a seasoned business and cannot support it for two months with no income you shouldn't be in business, especially with the government help for payroll, etc.. Those that file Chaper 11 or 7 will use the shutdowns as an excuse to burn unsecured or weak creditors. I have been through this many times as a creditor and there is nothing I could do about it. I eventually changed my terms to COD and because of it lost customers that I eventually replaced but no longer had to worry about bad debts. These people will continue to pay their secured creditors and themselves but will not send a dime to those that are unsecured. The system is unfair to say the least.

[Jeanette179]

Restaurants and retail can open on Monday per phase 1 guidelines :a040::a040:
Sorry no salons gyms
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽After listening to some pretty harsh comments & arguing over reopening or completely shutting down for another two weeks, someone in their right mind wrote this.

Don’t know who wrote it, but it’s spot on.

Perspective:

WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME BOAT ...
I heard that we are all in the same boat, but it's not like that. We are in the same storm, but not in the same boat. Your ship could be shipwrecked and mine might not be. Or vice versa.

For some, quarantine is optimal. A moment of reflection, of re-connection, easy in flip flops, with a cocktail or coffee. For others, this is a desperate financial & family crisis.

For some that live alone they're facing endless loneliness. While for others it is peace, rest & time with their mother, father, sons & daughters.

With the $600 weekly increase in unemployment some are bringing in more money to their households than they were working. Others are working more hours for less money due to pay cuts or loss in sales.

Some families of 4 just received $3400 from the stimulus while other families of 4 saw $0.

Some were concerned about getting a certain candy for Easter while others were concerned if there would be enough bread, milk and eggs for the weekend.

Some want to go back to work because they don't qualify for unemployment and are running out of money. Others want to kill those who break the quarantine.

Some are home spending 2-3 hours/day helping their child with online schooling while others are spending 2-3 hours/day to educate their children on top of a 10-12 hour workday.

Some have experienced the near death of the virus, some have already lost someone from it and some are not sure if their loved ones are going to make it. Others don't believe this is a big deal.

Some have faith in God and expect miracles during this 2020. Others say the worst is yet to come.

So, friends, we are not in the same boat. We are going through a time when our perceptions and needs are completely different.

Each of us will emerge, in our own way, from this storm. It is very important to see beyond what is seen at first glance. Not just looking, actually seeing.

We are all on different ships during this storm experiencing a very different journey.

Realize that and be kind.

Unknown author

[44Apple]

Federal guidelines call for 14-day drop in cases to reopen. No state has met them.

[Jazzman]

The problem with the Town Squares is that they can be used by the general population (genpop) and it seems they are less cautious than residents. I guess we will have the Yellow Vests CERT team being the Face Police?

you do know the wearing of masks is not mandatory. And you wearing a mask protects You from someone who coughs, sneezes, etc. who is not wearing a mask. Someone who is wearing a mask and coughs or sneezes will in all likelihood take their mask off to sneeze and or cough.

[Don Ferguson]

Did you just call me an idiot, for hoping that small business can reopen, and hopefully put food on their table. Hopefully you will remain in your home, until you no longer fear.

Well said! Thank you.

[michaelUK]

And the curve will start back up because The Village Idiots will think everything is over..... :boom:


Ermmm... A bit harsh. Recognising that one's personal risk tolerance may well be slightly different to that of others, perhaps you might share your proposal for a reasonable re-opening?

[fdpaq0580]

Jeanett179, post # 52
Thanks for sharing this. Very perceptive, caring and understanding opinion piece imho.

[merrymini]

People are ready to move. For those who want to hole up, stay home. When support for business is not there and they fail, do not wonder why. This disease does not have 100 percent fatality rate!

[happygal]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽After listening to some pretty harsh comments & arguing over reopening or completely shutting down for another two weeks, someone in their right mind wrote this.

Don’t know who wrote it, but it’s spot on.

Perspective:

WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME BOAT ...
I heard that we are all in the same boat, but it's not like that. We are in the same storm, but not in the same boat. Your ship could be shipwrecked and mine might not be. Or vice versa.

For some, quarantine is optimal. A moment of reflection, of re-connection, easy in flip flops, with a cocktail or coffee. For others, this is a desperate financial & family crisis.

For some that live alone they're facing endless loneliness. While for others it is peace, rest & time with their mother, father, sons & daughters.

With the $600 weekly increase in unemployment some are bringing in more money to their households than they were working. Others are working more hours for less money due to pay cuts or loss in sales.

Some families of 4 just received $3400 from the stimulus while other families of 4 saw $0.

Some were concerned about getting a certain candy for Easter while others were concerned if there would be enough bread, milk and eggs for the weekend.

Some want to go back to work because they don't qualify for unemployment and are running out of money. Others want to kill those who break the quarantine.

Some are home spending 2-3 hours/day helping their child with online schooling while others are spending 2-3 hours/day to educate their children on top of a 10-12 hour workday.

Some have experienced the near death of the virus, some have already lost someone from it and some are not sure if their loved ones are going to make it. Others don't believe this is a big deal.

Some have faith in God and expect miracles during this 2020. Others say the worst is yet to come.

So, friends, we are not in the same boat. We are going through a time when our perceptions and needs are completely different.

Each of us will emerge, in our own way, from this storm. It is very important to see beyond what is seen at first glance. Not just looking, actually seeing.

We are all on different ships during this storm experiencing a very different journey.

Realize that and be kind.

Unknown author
Well said.

[thelegges]

Dam, so I guess I can't get that tattoo that I never wanted and will never get. And to make matters worse, I can't get the few grey hairs remaining on my head groomed. Oh well, tomorrow won't be any worse because of that.

Ha you can cross the border to get that unwanted tattoo. I am still at a loss about tattoo parlors opening

[kwachowski]

Just remember to practice safe distance when outside. If the villagers won't cooperate it will be a long time before we are back to a new normal.

[thelegges]

I DO NOT remain in my home; I work with the public 4 days a week. I DO wear gloves and a mask because I do not know the people I come in contact with, where they've been or who they have been around.

There are too many people here in TV that think the world revolves around them and don't care if they infect anyone; those are The Village Idiots.

If the shoe fits......

Shoe doesn’t fit unless you include the fact I am a healthcare worker, and I know what people have. So stay safe with the public that most likely is not infected, while my group puts their families at risk everyday.

[thelegges]

Someone please explain how people will eat at restaurants while wearing masks.

It’s been done for years in the healthcare field, doesn’t take a lot of skill

[coffeebean]

Of course not, one chair per table, at least 6ft spacing.

That makes more sense. Thanks. I imagine cards and dice games are out.

[queasy27]

tattoo parlors can remain closed forever as far as I'm concerned....

So you only care about businesses you patronize and the rest can go bankrupt?

[coffeebean]

Jeanett179, post # 52
Thanks for sharing this. Very perceptive, caring and understanding opinion piece imho.
Please reply with a quote. Asking people to go back to a previous post is most certainly not going to happen. Thanks.

[Scorpyo]

A picture is worth a thousand words



Looking at a picture of the arrangement of tables/chairs at a Rec. Center in Phase II, I might suggest to residents that along with masks, gloves and hand sanitizers one might also bring extra batteries for hearing aids, megaphones and binoculars. Now, what else might one need? :icon_wink:

Hey, I already bring that stuff everywhere I go, huh, what did you say? Given the table layout, those folks that are missing their ability to dance could dance on the table tops. Of course I probably would not want to see that.

[Velvet]

you do know the wearing of masks is not mandatory. And you wearing a mask protects You from someone who coughs, sneezes, etc. who is not wearing a mask. Someone who is wearing a mask and coughs or sneezes will in all likelihood take their mask off to sneeze and or cough.

No they would not take their mask off just to sneeze. You have to be kidding. Why would they? unless they intentionally want the others to die.

[Velvet]

Shoe doesn’t fit unless you include the fact I am a healthcare worker, and I know what people have. So stay safe with the public that most likely is not infected, while my group puts their families at risk everyday.

Thank you. You are my hero.

[NavyVet]

Can I get a haircut on monday per the new guidelines ? I want one but my better half says leave it - you look like wild Bill from deadliest catch.

And he has a beautiful mane of white hair! :-)

[Altavia]

No they would not take their mask off just to sneeze. You have to be kidding. Why would they? unless they intentionally want the others to die.

Masks are less than effective during a cough or sneeze due to the blowby.

I did see a woman take off her mask in a Publix to sneeze contaminating both hands in the process.

Most people don't know how to use them correctly so I suspect the risk reduction is a wash. Masks are more safety theater than not.

[JoMar]

you do know the wearing of masks is not mandatory. And you wearing a mask protects You from someone who coughs, sneezes, etc. who is not wearing a mask. Someone who is wearing a mask and coughs or sneezes will in all likelihood take their mask off to sneeze and or cough.

I think you have that backwards, YOU wearing a mask helps protect others when you cough and sneeze. Others wearing a mask helps protect you when they cough and sneeze. At least for most of us that do not have masks with filters.

[fdpaq0580]

Please reply with a quote. Asking people to go back to a previous post is most certainly not going to happen. Thanks.

I usually do but in this case it was meant as simply a thank you and acknowledgment to the poster referenced. I agree with you that a response like " that was funny " can be confusing with out the quote it is referring too.
In future, coffeebean, I'll try to do better to avoid any confusion.

[davem4616]

Can I get a haircut on monday per the new guidelines ? I want one but my better half says leave it - you look like wild Bill from deadliest catch.



sure you can DIY

order a hair cutting kit on Amazon and have it rush shipped

:icon_wink:

[Magic19]

Please............

[coffeebean]

I usually do but in this case it was meant as simply a thank you and acknowledgment to the poster referenced. I agree with you that a response like " that was funny " can be confusing with out the quote it is referring too.
In future, coffeebean, I'll try to do better to avoid any confusion.

:):)

[npwalters]

Of course not, one chair per table, at least 6ft spacing.

so your saying I cant eat at the same table with my wife? I may have to kick her out of bed.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Lot of confusion including the fact that Monday marks Phase I for the state and Phase II for The Villages Parks and Rec.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Shoe doesn’t fit unless you include the fact I am a healthcare worker, and I know what people have. So stay safe with the public that most likely is not infected, while my group puts their families at risk everyday.

I am so thankful and appreciative of what you and all healthcare workers and 1st responders do across America everyday. What concerns me is that part of the general population that does not think rules apply to them.