A mutant coronavirus has emerged, even more contagious

[GoodLife]

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.

In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.

A mutant coronavirus has emerged, even more contagious than the original, study says (https://news.yahoo.com/mutant-coronavirus-emerged-even-more-110046843.html)

[graciegirl]

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.

In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.

A mutant coronavirus has emerged, even more contagious than the original, study says (https://news.yahoo.com/mutant-coronavirus-emerged-even-more-110046843.html)

Here is the original;

Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2 | bioRxiv (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1.full)

Please immediately read the disclaimer at the top highlighted in yellow that says "These are preliminary reports, not yet peer reviewed".

[GoodLife]

Here us the original;

Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2 | bioRxiv (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1.full)

Please immediately read the disclaimer at the top highlighted in yellow that says "These are preliminary reports, not yet peer reviewed".

Yes, there is a link to the actual study in the article I posted for all to see.. Almost all the covid 19 studies we see are not yet peer reviewed, which takes time. Scientists know the caliber of the scientists at Los Alamitos Laboratory, and can judge accordingly.

[graciegirl]

Yes, there is a link to the actual study in the article I posted for all to see.. Almost all the covid 19 studies we see are not yet peer reviewed, which takes time. Scientists know the caliber of the scientists at Los Alamitos Laboratory, and can judge accordingly.


Every single one of us is thirsty for good news. In this situation those who really know what they are doing do not rush to accolades.

Neither of us are up to date scientists so we must wait and see.

[GoodLife]

Every single one of us is thirsty for good news. In this situation those who really know what they are doing do not rush to accolades.

Neither of us are up to date scientists so we must wait and see.

I am confident every one of the 60 plus companies working on a vaccine are studying this paper, plus the companies trying to produce a drug that works. Covid 19 is like the flu, its a moving target that adapts and mutates. Unfortunately, the dominant strain has become more infectious. No accolades necessary, this study gives knowledge to the people trying to make a vaccine.

[Boomer]

Here us the original;

Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2 | bioRxiv (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1.full)

Please immediately read the disclaimer at the top highlighted in yellow that says "These are preliminary reports, not yet peer reviewed".


Gracie, what you have done here is known as chain searching or backward reference searching. Thank you.

“Libguides” from the reference library at Florida Atlantic University defines chain searching as “identifying and examining the references or works cited in an article. It is done to study the origins and development of a theory, model, or construct on a subject of interest.“

In this cyberworld of cut-and-paste ad nauseam, the truth is often disguised, trampled, or completely lost. (Sometimes the truth never existed in the first place, like with conspiracy theories.)

I wish more people would bother to chain search.

Marian Boomer

[GoodLife]

Gracie, what you have done here is known as chain searching or backward reference searching. Thank you.

“Libguides” from the reference library at Florida Atlantic University defines chain searching as “identifying and examining the references or works cited in an article. It is done to study the origins and development of a theory, model, or construct on a subject of interest.“

In this cyberworld of cut-and-paste ad nauseam, the truth is often disguised, trampled, or completely lost. (Sometimes the truth never existed in the first place, like with conspiracy theories.)

I wish more people would bother to chain search.

Marian Boomer

The link she posted was included in the article I posted. No chain or backward link searching necessary.

If you think the article I posted about the study was an inaccurate summary let us know after you read the actual study.

[Boomer]

The link she posted was included in the article I posted. No chain or backward link searching necessary.

If you think the article I posted about the study was an inaccurate summary let us know after you read the actual study.

I have no intention of engaging in a debate of the content. I am not qualified to do so. I chose to make a point about reference sourcing, in general. For that, I am qualified.

[GoodLife]

I have no intention of engaging in a debate of the content. I am not qualified to do so. I chose to make a point about reference sourcing, in general. For that, I am qualified.

Pretty sure Gracie found the link to actual study in the article I posted, not thru reference sourcing. Doesn't matter anyway.

[Inexes@aol.com]

Here is the original;

Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2 | bioRxiv (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1.full)

Please immediately read the disclaimer at the top highlighted in yellow that says "These are preliminary reports, not yet peer reviewed".

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.

In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.

A mutant coronavirus has emerged, even more contagious than the original, study says (https://news.yahoo.com/mutant-coronavirus-emerged-even-more-110046843.html)

In the grand scheme of things.... just what does any of this matter to us? What can we do to change it? TOTV used to be an interesting forum that I enjoyed on a daily basis. It has gotten to the point that I don't even care to look at it anymore. Between the virus, the golfing, the restaurants, masks/no masks, and the endless questionable statistics by unqualified posters...... it has become tedious. I know...... then don't come here and read it. Good advice.... but I just kept hoping that maybe one of these days TOTV would return to it's "old enjoyable self". :ohdear:

[Two Bills]

Information overload is the new dangerous virus.

[GoodLife]

In the grand scheme of things.... just what does any of this matter to us? What can we do to change it? TOTV used to be an interesting forum that I enjoyed on a daily basis. It has gotten to the point that I don't even care to look at it anymore. Between the virus, the golfing, the restaurants, masks/no masks, and the endless questionable statistics by unqualified posters...... it has become tedious. I know...... then don't come here and read it. Good advice.... but I just kept hoping that maybe one of these days TOTV would return to it's "old enjoyable self". :ohdear:

I hear you. My plan for this summer was to go to Scotland for several months to play golf, escape the heat here. Maybe next year.

The good old days had lots of threads complaining about dog poop, bad parking, bad driving, traffic circles, golf course conditions etc. Now we have lots of threads complaining about lockdown rules, face masks, direction arrows in supermarkets etc etc

Most of the threads I post are based on science, medicines to treat patients, vaccine developments, where and how you can get exposed to the virus etc. Some find them helpful, others not. The only hope we have are good medicines and a vaccine. Believe me, I'd rather be posting about golf from Scotland.

PS News about this virus mutation will probably be all over the news today, so don't watch if it disturbs you.

[karostay]

It seems awful funny despite the increasing daily new infections they are attempting to re open the economy.
I think the whole story isn't being told at just how big the real scope of this virus is.

[graciegirl]

Now I read that the National Covid-19 task force is going to be disassembled.

[graciegirl]

We all wish the same. For some order out of this chaos, some tools to really fight this bug, and some dependable figures about those who are infected and those who have passed from day to day...and to know where the people generally live....county, town, who were sick and who died.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Gracie, what you have done here is known as chain searching or backward reference searching. Thank you.

“Libguides” from the reference library at Florida Atlantic University defines chain searching as “identifying and examining the references or works cited in an article. It is done to study the origins and development of a theory, model, or construct on a subject of interest.“

In this cyberworld of cut-and-paste ad nauseam, the truth is often disguised, trampled, or completely lost. (Sometimes the truth never existed in the first place, like with conspiracy theories.)

I wish more people would bother to chain search.

Marian Boomer

This is what I do as a hobby. I check articles and op-eds, then run a search to find out where the writer got the information, then do another search to find out how THAT information was gathered - and so on and so forth. It's pretty fascinating actually. And it sometimes goes off on tangents and you learn about things only marginally related to whatever piqued your interest in the first place!

[graciegirl]

This is what I do as a hobby. I check articles and op-eds, then run a search to find out where the writer got the information, then do another search to find out how THAT information was gathered - and so on and so forth. It's pretty fascinating actually. And it sometimes goes off on tangents and you learn about things only marginally related to whatever piqued your interest in the first place!

I agree.

Stay safe.

[Dan9871]

It seems awful funny despite the increasing...

According to the State of Florida COVID site there have not been any new infections in the zip codes that make up The Villages in the last 5 days or so. The infection count has been stuck at 32159 at 5, 32162 at 54, and 32163 at 7 for the last 5 or 6 days.

Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

[graciegirl]

According to the State of Florida COVID site there have not been any new infections in the zip codes that make up The Villages in the last 5 days or so. The infection count has been stuck at 32159 at 5, 32162 at 54, and 32163 at 7 for the last 5 or 6 days.

Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

BUT that is when we were following the rules and not intermingling....which was only Sunday. I wonder what, if anything, the intermingling will change...and if the figures will change in fourteen days from now which is how long it takes for this virus to show up; two to fourteen days is the incubation period.

I am waiting to see if the numbers rise before I go out and about. I hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

[GoodLife]

It seems awful funny despite the increasing daily new infections they are attempting to re open the economy.
I think the whole story isn't being told at just how big the real scope of this virus is.

If you look at total cases in Florida, the number keeps going up, and will continue to until this is over. The numbers to look at are total new cases per day (looks like it peaked late April) and percent of positives for new cases (also slowly going down since April 20)

https://floridadisaster.org/globalassets/covid19/dailies/covid-19-data---daily-report-2020-05-04-0943.pdf

Opening up activities like swimming, golf, pickleball etc is not going to cause an upsurge in cases, they know the vast majority of cases come from close contact indoors. Opening up restaurants is a bit more tricky, I'd eat in one if they had outdoor seating.

A lot of the retirees living in TV have had it fairly easy, they have incomes from SS, pensions that have not stopped during the pandemic. Outside the bubble, there are 30 million plus out of work, and a lot of businesses are going bankrupt. If they don't get economy going soon, things will get very bad. Villagers can still practice safe living, enjoy expanded activities, and ride this out. The rest of the world needs to get back to work.

[tvbound]

According to the State of Florida COVID site there have not been any new infections in the zip codes that make up The Villages in the last 5 days or so. The infection count has been stuck at 32159 at 5, 32162 at 54, and 32163 at 7 for the last 5 or 6 days.

Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

Not a single new recorded infection for 5 or 6 days?

I'm not sure I would believe that.

Like other places around the nation, posting of cases and deaths are sometimes skipped for a few days and then all of a sudden a big jump is shown.

It wouldn't surprise me to see, that is what's happened down there.

[asianthree]

Not a single new recorded infection for 5 or 6 days?

I'm not sure I would believe that.

Like other places around the nation, posting of cases and deaths are sometimes skipped for a few days and then all of a sudden a big jump is shown.

It wouldn't surprise me to see, that is what's happened down there.

Not everyone dies on command every day to give numbers so they are skipped. It also take more than 24hours to report a death. If you wait numbers may either make you believe or not what you are looking for.

I for one see them falling, compared to 2 weeks ago, but that would be on a first hand observation. No guessing required.

[rlcooper70]

I saw an interview with the Oxford researcher working on the virus and he specifically stated that this virus doesn't mutate like the common flu virus ... conflicting information.

Should we wait before panicking?

[Bill1701]

Yes, and this was easy to predict. The flu mutates every year, and while COVID-19 is not exactly the flu, they have some commonalities.

[GoodLife]

I saw an interview with the Oxford researcher working on the virus and he specifically stated that this virus doesn't mutate like the common flu virus ... conflicting information.

Should we wait before panicking?

Los Alamos National Lab is not the only research showing multiple mutations. Chinese researchers reported 33 mutations, and there are many other reports.

Coronavirus: Scientists in China find 33 mutations of virus in warning to vaccine developers (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-mutated-more-30-strains-scientists-china-123500160.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20vc2VhcmNo P3E9Y2hpbmVzZStyZXNlYXJjaGVycytmaW5kKzMzK3N0cmFpbn Mrb2YrdmlydXMmZm9ybT1FREdUQ1QmcXM9UEYmY3ZpZD00MGRj ZWRkZjYxNWU0NTYxOTUxZmE4ZTkxNWQzNzliYiZyZWZpZz0yYT g4YjIzNjFhZDc0NDA3OTI4ZWM5YWQ3ZTJjNDU2ZSZjYz1VUyZz ZXRsYW5nPWVuLVVTJmVsdj1BUWo5M09BaERUaSpIelR2MXBhUW RuZ0k1JTIxb0dub2xaNDB3R09ja0N0VVlBb1hSazE0M0QlMjFG RzdtWFVUUTJlUGZvSWJjeGZBKjR3dGlOdzVRN2dyQnhZako5WH h3OVFYWEFscUNYN3pQb3prJnBsdmFyPTA&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHyvvnWrHEcUQWFXMy8HnZ02_Yps bM2RV7INh7qdYz9Pos9c9JMkczHxL7r6t2OfRAcJ-geWNqRUJvNuTtByutyYWr4agFQTD814DYNLclSjz0KcCQO4IPn LkpZZTdL7BP2H6NDqMOUP4_Zd9OhLzlkJD-nhgofLtWxawAFBXLUT)

It may not mutate as fast as common flu, but it is mutating. This may or may not mean a single vaccine would work on all the strains.

[Windguy]

Apparently, Mother Nature wasn’t satisfied with her first attempt at controlling the population of our planet-destroying species and decided to take more-extreme measures. :-)

[donassaid]

If you agree to take a "vaccine" developed by Bill Gates, you are a complete fool. Look up his past vaccines if you want to see how effective they were.

[zonerboy]

BUT that is when we were following the rules and not intermingling....which was only Sunday. I wonder what, if anything, the intermingling will change...and if the figures will change in fourteen days from now which is how long it takes for this virus to show up; two to fourteen days is the incubation period.

I am waiting to see if the numbers rise before I go out and about. I hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Passing the virus from person to person is not simply a factor of how close you are to others, but also of the duration of time you remain close to others. Walking past someone on the sidewalk is quite different from eating in a restaurant where you are sitting in one spot for close to an hour.

[canyonblue]

If you agree to take a "vaccine" developed by Bill Gates, you are a complete fool. Look up his past vaccines if you want to see how effective they were.

All I need to know is he couldn't stop Microsoft Windows from getting a virus, why would I trust him now.

[Mumbles]

THANX Graciegirl for delivering the publication of a new viral concern. Now I'm waiting for another shoe to drop.

[rrb48310]

All I need to know is he couldn't stop Microsoft Windows from getting a virus, why would I trust him now.

Now that was funny:a040:

If Bill Gates is spending his money for research that’s good, I really don’t think he’s doing the research himself. Out of his lane.

[Mumbles]

Yes, and this was easy to predict. The flu mutates every year, and while COVID-19 is not exactly the flu, they have some commonalities.

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I wonder if we would have a smaller or bigger panic if this were called an "infection" or "disease" rather than a flu or virus, something more akin to Bubonic plague. And would that put us somewhat at ease with staying home for longer?

[jimjamuser]

I hear you. My plan for this summer was to go to Scotland for several months to play golf, escape the heat here. Maybe next year.

The good old days had lots of threads complaining about dog poop, bad parking, bad driving, traffic circles, golf course conditions etc. Now we have lots of threads complaining about lockdown rules, face masks, direction arrows in supermarkets etc etc

Most of the threads I post are based on science, medicines to treat patients, vaccine developments, where and how you can get exposed to the virus etc. Some find them helpful, others not. The only hope we have are good medicines and a vaccine. Believe me, I'd rather be posting about golf from Scotland.

PS News about this virus mutation will probably be all over the news today, so don't watch if it disturbs you.
Good information and your intentions are good. Keep it up.

[jimjamuser]

This is what I do as a hobby. I check articles and op-eds, then run a search to find out where the writer got the information, then do another search to find out how THAT information was gathered - and so on and so forth. It's pretty fascinating actually. And it sometimes goes off on tangents and you learn about things only marginally related to whatever piqued your interest in the first place!
There are worse hobbies. Oh, I did NOT mean golf.

[jimjamuser]

According to the State of Florida COVID site there have not been any new infections in the zip codes that make up The Villages in the last 5 days or so. The infection count has been stuck at 32159 at 5, 32162 at 54, and 32163 at 7 for the last 5 or 6 days.

Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)
Thanks, good info.

[PugMom]

In the grand scheme of things.... just what does any of this matter to us? What can we do to change it? TOTV used to be an interesting forum that I enjoyed on a daily basis. It has gotten to the point that I don't even care to look at it anymore. Between the virus, the golfing, the restaurants, masks/no masks, and the endless questionable statistics by unqualified posters...... it has become tedious. I know...... then don't come here and read it. Good advice.... but I just kept hoping that maybe one of these days TOTV would return to it's "old enjoyable self". :ohdear:

:bigbow::bigbow:if only