Who sets the policy at golf courses?

[npwalters]

Who sets the policy at TV golf courses?

I ask this question to follow up on a series of heated discussions on TOTV.

Full disclosure - I am in the camp that believe golfers not wearing masks is reasonable. I would like to see a "no mask required" policy extended to the outdoor activities under the purview of the Recreation Department.

The current argument usually goes "the golfers don't wear masks". The response is "they don't have to - not a rec department activity".

So is the ultimate decision maker for golf policies and recreation department policies the same? Not talking about the director of golf vs the director of recreation but rather whoever they report to.

If you have actual information please chime in. I suppose I could search this out but the inner workings of TV management is not my thing. Thanks in advance.

[anothersteve]

There is a "Golf and Country Club Administration". Maybe it's Them?
Steve

[donassaid]

Here's a thought for you. Why doesn't The Villages install cut off noodles situated an inch or so below the cups like many other courses that allows a putt to actually go in the cup but still retrievable without touching the flagstick? They could be left in tear round and make golf more enjoyable and your score more indicative of what you really shot?

[golfing eagles]

Here's a thought for you. Why doesn't The Villages install cut off noodles situated an inch or so below the cups like many other courses that allows a putt to actually go in the cup but still retrievable without touching the flagstick? They could be left in tear round and make golf more enjoyable and your score more indicative of what you really shot?

Good question, I've been saying that since the "pipes" arrived. And it's a much better question for Country Club administration than that mask nonsense.

[Gerald]

wow, so many questions and answers. Since there are no mask requested at this time for the golf courses. You could simple ask the golf office for an answer. As for the different ways to set up the holes. I believe the one being used makes all golf in the villages Just practice courses. So play with that in mind. Practice is not a bad thing. Hole in one should not be counted the way it is set up now.

[npwalters]

Here's a thought for you. Why doesn't The Villages install cut off noodles situated an inch or so below the cups like many other courses that allows a putt to actually go in the cup but still retrievable without touching the flagstick? They could be left in tear round and make golf more enjoyable and your score more indicative of what you really shot?

OK, I have no opinion on that. Don't think that has anything to do with my original post.

[Marathon Man]

Who sets the policy at TV golf courses?

I ask this question to follow up on a series of heated discussions on TOTV.

Full disclosure - I am in the camp that believe golfers not wearing masks is reasonable. I would like to see a "no mask required" policy extended to the outdoor activities under the purview of the Recreation Department.

The current argument usually goes "the golfers don't wear masks". The response is "they don't have to - not a rec department activity".

So is the ultimate decision maker for golf policies and recreation department policies the same? Not talking about the director of golf vs the director of recreation but rather whoever they report to.

If you have actual information please chime in. I suppose I could search this out but the inner workings of TV management is not my thing. Thanks in advance.

That's a shame. And all too common around here. A better understanding of how our community works would save a lot of people a lot of frustration.

[CWGUY]

That's a shame. And all too common around here. A better understanding of how our community works would save a lot of people a lot of frustration.

:ho: I agree! And would also add the time to try and get that understanding would be BEFORE you buy. Called due diligence I believe....... The wheel is rolling along just great and does not need to be reinvented. :)

[npwalters]

:ho: I agree! And would also add the time to try and get that understanding would be BEFORE you buy. Called due diligence I believe....... The wheel is rolling along just great and does not need to be reinvented. :)

So who is trying to reinvent the wheel? Cant anyone on here just answer a question?

[anothersteve]

So who is trying to reinvent the wheel? Cant anyone on here just answer a question?

I think I did
Steve

[J1ceasar]

Hilarious.

[rjn5656]

I would call Richard Baier. If it is not him, I am sure he knows who it is.

[davem4616]

no, Who does not set the policy at TV golf courses...Who is on first

[golfing eagles]

no, Who does not set the policy at TV golf courses...Who is on first

No, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of self appointed COVID "police"/tattletales/photographers that THINK they get to make policy everywhere and tell others what to do. Probably the same people that were the "teacher's pet" in grade school and ran home to Mommy if they had an incident playing in the street. Don't give them the time of day, I just ignore them, which makes them even more insane.

[soniak4@gmail.com]

The ultimate decision on policy and protocol is the Morse family. There is a Golf and Tennis organization who may call the day to day operation procedures and make some decisions but ultimately, the buck stops at the top, the Morse family.

[USN-Retired]

wow, so many questions and answers. Since there are no mask requested at this time for the golf courses. You could simple ask the golf office for an answer. As for the different ways to set up the holes. I believe the one being used makes all golf in the villages Just practice courses. So play with that in mind. Practice is not a bad thing. Hole in one should not be counted the way it is set up now.

First of all, social distancing naturally occurs on the golf course AND is further encouraged by the 'Golf & Tennis Division' insisting golfers ride in separate carts UNLESS from same household. Also, since the Golf Shops opened Monday (4th) for retail, they REQUIRE masks be worn when entering AND limit number of shoppers to FOUR. So please don't assume they are not concerned about this whole situation. They actually are one of the few that are trying to maintain some sense of normalcy in this very trying time AND doing so quite well. On the other topic in this thread ... agree that they should have used the noodle vice the PVC in the cups like many courses outside TV are using! More realistic putting conditions and still keeps hands/fingers out of the cup.

[Tomsed]

Think I recently heard this option.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

wow, so many questions and answers. Since there are no mask requested at this time for the golf courses. You could simple ask the golf office for an answer. As for the different ways to set up the holes. I believe the one being used makes all golf in the villages Just practice courses. So play with that in mind. Practice is not a bad thing. Hole in one should not be counted the way it is set up now.

I would tend to agree.
UNTIL THIS HAPPENED!

[davem4616]

The ultimate decision on policy and protocol is the Morse family. There is a Golf and Tennis organization who may call the day to day operation procedures and make some decisions but ultimately, the buck stops at the top, the Morse family.


Like any large operation, the Morse family certainly would have delegated responsibility for the day to day operating policies pertaining to golf, tennis, pickleball, etc. and you can be certain that those people were fully vetted and are in total alignment with the Morse family values and the vision that they have for TV

[mtlee024]

There are 2 golf course organizations, 1, The Championship Courses, and 2, the Executive Course.

1, The championship courses are privately owned by the Morse family, they are operated by the Golf Course Administration, with offices in Sumter Landing.

2, The executive courses are owned by everyone who lives in TV, are administered by the CDD's and they have their own operations teams, who work closely with Golf Course Administration group.

To get your answers I would go to the Golf Course Administration office and ask to speak with the head man for each type of course. By the way, good luck with that. I doubt you will get past the receptionist.

[HappyRetired]

Once the Developer (aka "Morse family") turns amenities and governance over to the District (CDD's, etc) all departments fall under the District. I suppose Mr. Morse can chime in an opinion, but we, the residents, pay amenities, vote for our CDD representatives and have opportunity to voice opinions at all public meetings. Some things fall under deed restrictions set at the time of construction and those rules are governed under the District.

It would be nice if all residents took the District-offered Intro to CDD's (normally held Thursdays, 10 A.M. at the District office) and Resident Academy for more detailed look into how The Villages works.

[billethkid]

I think the new set up is just too difficult for most golfers.

It is bad enough to get the ball in the hole let alone now trying to get it up over the part sticking out of the ground!
:duck:

[fdpaq0580]

no, Who does not set the policy at TV golf courses...Who is on first

Thanks for a great laugh. Hadn't finished my first cup of coffee yet and it took a second to remember the old Abbott & Costello routine.

[fdpaq0580]

I would tend to agree.
UNTIL THIS HAPPENED!

Please, tell me this is real and not staged.

[wayneman]

I would call Richard Baier. If it is not him, I am sure he knows who it is.
I have sent e-mails to Richard Baier and John Rohan. I get the basic CDC
says response. They are going to do what they want. Still, it would be nice
to know who the top dog is in the hierarchy. It seems are views of anything within the villages really doesn't matter. Just buy our pricey homes with exorbitant bonds, and pay your amenity fee's and be happy.

[wisbad1]

like the one who made "snarky" comments to the guy at the pool on opening day! now you want to start more trouble, wow!

[Leaving Snow]

It is very easy for golfers to stay much more than 6' apart at all times, and we never touch the same club or ball as another golfer. We ride in individual carts, unless we live together. So masks are not required, though some choose to wear them. Masks are required at outdoor activities that may cause accelerated breathing. Golf should not do that. I have played without a mask with a person who chose to wear one. Hope this info/opinion helps.

[merrymini]

They did not close the golf courses for the same reason they left liquor stores open, there would be rioting in the streets otherwise. I have seen golfers congregating in the parking lots and then get into their respective golf carts to play. What a joke!

[ellenwelsh]

The ultimate decision on policy and protocol is the Morse family. There is a Golf and Tennis organization who may call the day to day operation procedures and make some decisions but ultimately, the buck stops at the top, the Morse family.
The “top” is Governor DeSantis, not the Morse family.

[npwalters]

Thanks to those that gave a "useful" answer.

Just trying to figure out if there is a link above golf and recreation activities that could/should resolve the disparate policies (some office below the owners).

I've stated my opinion (yes it is just an opinion I know) that the outdoor (only) recreation activities policy should be more like the golf policies.

[npwalters]

like the one who made "snarky" comments to the guy at the pool on opening day! now you want to start more trouble, wow!

does this mean I wont get a Christmas card this year?

[Ken D.]

I was not aware of any requirement of wearing a mask outdoors, whether it be "outside" a recreation building, or golf course. I do understand the need for masks "inside" the buildings.

[npwalters]

I was not aware of any requirement of wearing a mask outdoors, whether it be "outside" a recreation building, or golf course. I do understand the need for masks "inside" the buildings.

Masks are required to use any recreation department facility indoor or outside. The pools that are open have spaced the chairs 6 feet apart but are still requiring masks to be worn. They did clarify to their employees on Tuesday that they are not required while swimming. The pickleball courts, tennis courts, and dog parks are still closed.

[yankygrl]

The CDC states masks SHOULD NOT be worn whether inside or outside activities such as those that could be considered exercise. Golf falls into that category. If you are swimming no mask, sitting on lounge chair at pool, can't huert.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I would tend to agree.
UNTIL THIS HAPPENED!
Why were you touching the flag pole? Pretty much defeated the purpose right there.