Publix

[Topspinmo]

I had to go to store today (hadn’t been for couple weeks) and was shocked seeing people shopping in the store with no masks on? IMO inside building where lots of people are in prefect environment to catch the virus. Especially when they are polluting the air I’m walking through.

What I heard wearing mask protects other’s and not you (IMO mask does offer some protection) why Publix allowed people in store without masks. I can’t go into Walmart without mask?

[anothersteve]

Looks like you have two options.
Steve

[Number 10 GI]

I had to go to store today (hadn’t been for couple weeks) and was shocked seeing people shopping in the store with no masks on? IMO inside building where lots of people are in prefect environment to catch the virus. Especially when they are polluting the air I’m walking through.

What I heard wearing mask protects other’s and not you (IMO mask does offer some protection) why Publix allowed people in store without masks. I can’t go into Walmart without mask?

It's kinda odd, when this virus stuff started we were told that a mask would protect you from infection and when some questioned this they were scolded and ridiculed. Now the powers that be tell us that the mask only helps to prevent an infected person form spreading it to us. When you constantly change the story the validity becomes questionable.

[Bogie Shooter]

It's kinda odd, when this virus stuff started we were told that a mask would protect you from infection and when some questioned this they were scolded and ridiculed. Now the powers that be tell us that the mask only helps to prevent an infected person form spreading it to us. When you constantly change the story the validity becomes questionable.

Part of the learning curve.

[billethkid]

As long as wearing a mask is optional and inconsistently applied and lack of any enforcement....some people just will not comply.

No mystery at all!

[Topspinmo]

Looks like you have two options.
Steve


Let me guess??? Move and don’t go to Publix. I said I was shocked :shocked: not looking for options. :)

[Topspinmo]

Part of the learning curve.


Or theory

[anothersteve]

Let me guess??? Move and don’t go to Publix. I said I was shocked :shocked: not looking for options. :)

OK, sorry, four options then.
Steve

[Stu from NYC]

I had to go to store today (hadn’t been for couple weeks) and was shocked seeing people shopping in the store with no masks on? IMO inside building where lots of people are in prefect environment to catch the virus. Especially when they are polluting the air I’m walking through.

What I heard wearing mask protects other’s and not you (IMO mask does offer some protection) why Publix allowed people in store without masks. I can’t go into Walmart without mask?

Last Sunday Walmart on 27 had a number of people not wearing masks does not seem like its a requirement at all

[anothersteve]

Last Sunday Walmart on 27 had a number of people not wearing masks does not seem like its a requirement at all

I was there this morning, it's not.
Steve

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've been going there regularly for weeks and it hasn't been a requirement at Walmart at all. They do have one-way aisles but many people disregard them. I don't "scold" people for not complying but I do point it out to them in a "oh excuse me I need to pass you, and by the way you know the next aisle you go down you'll probably want to look at the arrow and make sure you're going the right way."

Sort of a passive-aggressive way of kindly telling them they're "doin it wrong."

I'm not very confrontational about that kind of thing. Though - one woman did get me to snipe at her last time I was there. She had JUST turned into the aisle in one of those driving-carts, and was heading up the wrong way. So I told her she might want to come around the other way since it's a one-way aisle and she had JUST gotten into it. She said "oh well I guess I'll take my chances" and continued down the aisle. She wasn't wearing a mask (I don't wear a mask when I'm shopping unless the store requires it, but I DO make every effort to keep my distance from other shoppers). That just bugged me something fierce. So I called out after her that she is forcing everyone in the aisle to take their chances with HER, and called her a snowflake.

Because the rules only apply to people who obey them, obviously.

Grrrrrrrrr

[billethkid]

At some point some folks will get that wearing a mask is for your fellow human's safety.

When folks do not wear a mask where it is recommended to do so....what does that tell us!!!

Rhetorical question we already know the answer!

[bagboy]

Walmart Neighborhood Market today. It seemed about 50/50 on mask usage.

[Jhnidy]

Which Walmart is that?

[mlmarr1]

once again its not a law to wear one only a suggestion .. do you see how may dirty nasty masks are breeding grounds for more issues.. relax and breathe.. if you have copd/etc then wear one if you desire.. shoot I see people on O2 lighting up a smoke.. that's heathy .. don't be brainwashed by the media

[mlmarr1]

the]recommended is the key here..

[kenoc7]

once again its not a law to wear one only a suggestion .. do you see how may dirty nasty masks are breeding grounds for more issues.. relax and breathe.. if you have copd/etc then wear one if you desire.. shoot I see people on O2 lighting up a smoke.. that's heathy .. don't be brainwashed by the media

No one is being brainwashed by the media; wearing masks is recommended by medical experts. It appears that many people here have turned into adolescents and think that no harm can come to them. Sad.

[canyonblue]

once again its not a law to wear one only a suggestion .. do you see how may dirty nasty masks are breeding grounds for more issues.. relax and breathe.. if you have copd/etc then wear one if you desire.. shoot I see people on O2 lighting up a smoke.. that's heathy .. don't be brainwashed by the media

According to the Florida Dept of Health statistics, 85% of Covid-19 deaths in Florida occurred in individuals 65 and up. I would assume the younger crowd would feel that if you feel at risk then stay home.

[Fisherman]

Have to say.... I had to take someone to the VA in Gainesville yesterday and while he was in surgery, I decided to go to Walmart in search of toilet paper. I have been using Instacart for home delivery from Publix for the last seven weeks here in TV. Alachua County has tighter restrictions than State or Federal guidelines. It is mandatory to wear a mask at all times in any retail , restaurant or indoor facility. You may remove your mask to eat while in a restaurant. All employees must wear masks and gloves. McDonalds would only let 3 people in at a time. Walmart,Target and Publix had you waiting six feet apart on tape marked positions and counted people going in one door, then you exit out of another door and counted out. Average wait time was 3-4 minutes to enter, sometimes none. Tape on floor with directions. Tape at check outs reminding you to stay back six feet and you do not place your items on the belt till they wipe it down after the customer ahead of you. Plexi glass protectors at the registers. Self checkout counters were sprayed or wiped down in between customers. You were offered hand sanitizer coming out and a sanitized cart going in. In the stores there was plenty of room to allow social distancing. After, several stores, I did find TP in Target. I actually thought the processes they had in place made shopping SO easy and I felt that these processes definitely were designed to eliminate risk for me and the employees. Everyone was friendly. No complaining. I definitely see that by going the distance..... more and more people will start eating out and shopping because they become confident and comfortable seeing that actions are being taken to keep them at a minimum risk of getting sick by entering inside facilities. That being said, will help our economy slowly get back on our feet and keep businesses and the public working back to a new normal while our medical researchers find a vaccine or cure. So it is easy for those that say “ If you don’t like it, stay home”, but if enough people stay home, and follow your advise, the economy will suffer, the businesses and employees will suffer and eventually, it will take far longer to get back to any kind of normalcy.

[Skunky1]

At Walmart I guess once you get in the store you can take it off put it in your pocket

[davem4616]

we went to Publix yesterday at just about 7pm...the store was almost empty of shoppers...we were able to get everything on our list

I really didn't notice anyone that didn't have a mask on

perhaps those of us that really choose to stay safe should consider shopping during the "off" hours

[theruizs]

Masks work best at preventing those who have the virus and may not know it from spreading it further. Since it is impossible to tell if you have it or not before symptoms show, everyone should be wearing one for now when out in public. But this is America, currently the land of “me first” and the land of “my freedom is more valuable than yours.” I hope in time we will become an America where we have gotten over those childish traits. BTW, interesting that can tell which channel a poster gets their news from by their comments here.

[Bill1701]

You might as well quit complaining about the masks. Some people will wear them and some won't. You're not going to change anyone's mind at this point. If they were mandatory, either the store or government would have to supply them. Just add masks to the long list of what people complain about here.

[Swoop]

US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Monday, March 2 that wearing face masks could actually increase a person's risk of contracting COVID-19, echoing remarks he made on Saturday that called for people to "stop buying masks."

[Windguy]

When you constantly change the story the validity becomes questionable.
Uh, what changed? The story never really changed and certainly not constantly.

The masks are only slightly protective and they were begging people to not buy up all the N95 masks because hospital workers needed them. Plus, they wear other protective gear. A mask alone won’t help much if someone coughs all over you. It will be all over your body. The masks for the general public are to protect people from caring, considerate people who may not know they have the disease. Wouldn’t you like to be thought of as a caring, considerate person?

[donassaid]

You certainly can go into Walmart without a mask. I guess there are lots of people not buying into this mass hysteria.

[retiredguy123]

US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Monday, March 2 that wearing face masks could actually increase a person's risk of contracting COVID-19, echoing remarks he made on Saturday that called for people to "stop buying masks."
That just begs the obvious question. How does the Surgeon General know that?

[Swoop]

That just begs the obvious question. How does the Surgeon General know that?
Let’s see, we have the opinion of the Surgeon General, or this quote from the person who started this thread “(IMO mask does offer some protection)”. Whose opinion would I feel was probably more reliable...?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Monday, March 2 that wearing face masks could actually increase a person's risk of contracting COVID-19, echoing remarks he made on Saturday that called for people to "stop buying masks."

No, he didn't say that. He said wearing a mask IMPROPERLY could increase your chance of getting it, because people tend to touch their masks with unclean hands, and then breathe in the germs placed there by their own fingers. That's what he said in February.

On March 2, he tweeted (and rightly so at the time) that people buying up cases of masks meant fewer medical professionals having access to them, and THAT could also spread the virus faster, and that wearing masks wouldn't help anyone from catching it anyway.

He later retracted his statement about it not helping, because new information had come in about people with no symptoms spreading the virus. He then stated that wearing a mask provided at least SOME risk-reduction, but that it had to be done correctly.

[ficoguy]

Wearing a mask is like wearing pants - if you wet yourself and you have pants on, only you will get wet. If you don't, then the person next to you gets wet.

[marygalexa]

You certainly can go into Walmart without a mask. I guess there are lots of people not buying into this mass hysteria.

Yep there are ... and more that a few of them have been cremated or buried.

[bmit16]

You know what opinions are like!

[bagboy]

Which Walmart is that?

Across the hwy from Colony Center.

[merrymini]

Snowflake? Really, like all the bad parking are snowbirds or snowflakes too? You show yourself for what you really are with that comment.

[OhioBuckeye]

I had to go to store today (hadn’t been for couple weeks) and was shocked seeing people shopping in the store with no masks on? IMO inside building where lots of people are in prefect environment to catch the virus. Especially when they are polluting the air I’m walking through.

What I heard wearing mask protects other’s and not you (IMO mask does offer some protection) why Publix allowed people in store without masks. I can’t go into Walmart without mask?

The people who don’t wear mask don’t care about others & the people who wear mask do care who gets the virus! Be safe & don’t take chances,wear a mask, even if others think they’re a waste of time!

[RockyMountainMan]

I had to go to store today (hadn’t been for couple weeks) and was shocked seeing people shopping in the store with no masks on? IMO inside building where lots of people are in prefect environment to catch the virus. Especially when they are polluting the air I’m walking through.

What I heard wearing mask protects other’s and not you (IMO mask does offer some protection) why Publix allowed people in store without masks. I can’t go into Walmart without mask?
What you heard is not correct. Regular surgical masks DO NOT PROTECT you or any other person from catching a virus. Viruses are 1000 times smaller than the smallest bacteria. The holes in a mask DO NOT stop a virus from going out from your mouth OR coming into you mouth or nose from someone else. The statement that a mask protects others from you but not you from others is ludicrous and defies all logic if you know anything about viruses. How can a mask stop a virus from going out of your mouth but not stop a virus from entering through the same mask???? C'mon folks use some common sense here. Either a mask stops viruses or it doesn't...and it doesn't. If you feel a mask works, then by all means wear one...but you can't have it both ways. If it works, than you are protected from getting a virus AND you are preventing others from getting it from you. We can't have the heard mentality that you are somewhat inhuman if we don't wear a mask...they don't work!

[queasy27]

Confession! I went to pick up a prescription at Publix but needed one grocery item that's shelved at the very end of an aisle. There were no other shoppers nearby and I nipped three feet in the wrong way to pluck my item and dash.

But I had a mask and gloves on, so maybe that evened out my misdeed. ;-)

The pharmacy clerk asked me to sign the credit card machine using my finger instead of picking up the stylus. Either option seems to carry about the same amount of risk, if you ask me. Ideally both the touch screen and pen are being sanitized throughout the day.

[kendi]

US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Monday, March 2 that wearing face masks could actually increase a person's risk of contracting COVID-19, echoing remarks he made on Saturday that called for people to "stop buying masks."

I've thought and heard the same. Nor do they protect others as much as people think. Those germs are inside and outside of the mask and are on their hands. Sneezing or coughing won't stop the germs on the outside of the mask from flying. There is a reason that hospitals put on new masks and gloves before entering each room. In the stores, given that social distancing is respected, if someone has the virus with no symptoms the bigger issue would be touching the same areas the infected person did. Even with the mask on, the person had touched the mask and has the germs all over them self. Social distancing and washing hands is the best approach.

What is saddest to me is that people have chosen to be so verbally nasty to their neighbors over this virus. I used to expect more from the seniors, but learned long ago that some never learn how to choose the higher road.

[kendi]

No, he didn't say that. He said wearing a mask IMPROPERLY could increase your chance of getting it, because people tend to touch their masks with unclean hands, and then breathe in the germs placed there by their own fingers. That's what he said in February.

On March 2, he tweeted (and rightly so at the time) that people buying up cases of masks meant fewer medical professionals having access to them, and THAT could also spread the virus faster, and that wearing masks wouldn't help anyone from catching it anyway.

He later retracted his statement about it not helping, because new information had come in about people with no symptoms spreading the virus. He then stated that wearing a mask provided at least SOME risk-reduction, but that it had to be done correctly.

That's the problem right there and why they can be more dangerous, few know the guidelines as to how to wear them. The germs are all over the mask inside and out, on their hands, etc. There's a reason why medical staff puts on new masks prior to seeing each patient, wash their hands before doing so, and never touch it while its on and wash their hands. Distancing and washing hands are the key.

[NoMoSno]

That's the problem right there and why they can be more dangerous, few know the guidelines as to how to wear them. The germs are all over the mask inside and out, on their hands, etc. There's a reason why medical staff puts on new masks prior to seeing each patient, wash their hands before doing so, and never touch it while its on and wash their hands. Distancing and washing hands are the key.
Medical staff does not put on a new mask prior to seeing each patient.

[Love2Swim]

What you heard is not correct. Regular surgical masks DO NOT PROTECT you or any other person from catching a virus. Viruses are 1000 times smaller than the smallest bacteria. The holes in a mask DO NOT stop a virus from going out from your mouth OR coming into you mouth or nose from someone else. The statement that a mask protects others from you but not you from others is ludicrous and defies all logic if you know anything about viruses. How can a mask stop a virus from going out of your mouth but not stop a virus from entering through the same mask???? C'mon folks use some common sense here. Either a mask stops viruses or it doesn't...and it doesn't. If you feel a mask works, then by all means wear one...but you can't have it both ways. If it works, than you are protected from getting a virus AND you are preventing others from getting it from you. We can't have the heard mentality that you are somewhat inhuman if we don't wear a mask...they don't work!

I believe the scientists and health professionals who recommend wearing a mask. According to the Mayo Clinic, highly respected in the medical community, a mask, protects the wearer's nose and mouth from contact with droplets, splashes and sprays that may contain germs. A surgical mask also filters out large particles in the air. Surgical masks may protect others by reducing exposure to the saliva and respiratory secretions of the mask wearer. To put it more simply, yes the virus is small, but it is encased in droplets or saliva, and the mask protects against those droplets should a person who is asymptomatic releases those droplets somehow. That said, one must be careful not to contaminate their mask.

[SouthJerseyGirl]

Not only are they not wearing masks, but they come too close and are breathing down your neck as you lean in to check the available meat cuts. I’ve had to yell ‘six feet!”at several people - and they look at me like I’m crazy.

[Topspinmo]

What you heard is not correct. Regular surgical masks DO NOT PROTECT you or any other person from catching a virus. Viruses are 1000 times smaller than the smallest bacteria. The holes in a mask DO NOT stop a virus from going out from your mouth OR coming into you mouth or nose from someone else. The statement that a mask protects others from you but not you from others is ludicrous and defies all logic if you know anything about viruses. How can a mask stop a virus from going out of your mouth but not stop a virus from entering through the same mask???? C'mon folks use some common sense here. Either a mask stops viruses or it doesn't...and it doesn't. If you feel a mask works, then by all means wear one...but you can't have it both ways. If it works, than you are protected from getting a virus AND you are preventing others from getting it from you. We can't have the heard mentality that you are somewhat inhuman if we don't wear a mask...they don't work!

So, what the point! I don’t give —— one way or the other. IMO it’s not going make different, just delays it. I like following rules most of times, they been babbling on News, and everywhere else to wear mask when you’re in close public places.

Another thing there no proof masks don’t work in normal circumstances no proof you catch it playing sport off ball being hit back and forth. The only rule or suggestion IMO that good advice, STAY clear of people you don’t know.

[Two Bills]

When a head of state walks around without a mask, why should the general population do any different?

[chet2020]

I believe the scientists and health professionals who recommend wearing a mask. According to the Mayo Clinic, highly respected in the medical community, a mask, protects the wearer's nose and mouth from contact with droplets, splashes and sprays that may contain germs. A surgical mask also filters out large particles in the air. Surgical masks may protect others by reducing exposure to the saliva and respiratory secretions of the mask wearer. To put it more simply, yes the virus is small, but it is encased in droplets or saliva, and the mask protects against those droplets should a person who is asymptomatic releases those droplets somehow. That said, one must be careful not to contaminate their mask.

Agreed. Quantitative evidence is showing something that makes sense when you think about it. Prolonged exposure to someone with the virus = larger initial virus dose = higher chance of getting infected. A 40 minute train ride sitting next to someone infected is worse than passing someone in the aisle of a grocery store.

Yes, a single aerosoled virus will pass through a mask. But that's a low dose. A droplet of saliva loaded with virus from an infected person who sneezes is a high dose. That will be captured by the mask. Your chances of catching the virus if you wear a mask are lower, but not non-existent. Simple.

This links to a post by Muge Cevik MD, summarizing a scientific paper on the subject.

Twitter (https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1257392347010215947)

[vmcoll326]

That’s your opinion.
I say mind you business at what other people are doing.

[kathy1516]

The cloth masks are laughable. They pretty much do nothing. The real medical masks aren’t used properly and most have no idea how to remove them. They put them in their pocket to use again! This logic is more dangerous than not using them at all. The cloth masks need to be removed and placed in a plastic bag to be washed immediately after each use! Paper masks after careful removal should be thrown away not use them over and over again! You are more likely to spread the virus to yourself, your family, and others by not doing this. I’m speaking as a retired nurse.

[Ben Franklin]

I had to go to store today (hadn’t been for couple weeks) and was shocked seeing people shopping in the store with no masks on? IMO inside building where lots of people are in prefect environment to catch the virus. Especially when they are polluting the air I’m walking through.

What I heard wearing mask protects other’s and not you (IMO mask does offer some protection) why Publix allowed people in store without masks. I can’t go into Walmart without mask?

Those who don't wear masks these days, could care less if they infect you. They are self-absorbed. They don't know the difference between constructive and destructive freedom. I have to wonder if those people also rail against assisted suicide?

[aallbrand]

No one in the medical field would say that

Lots of stupid , selfish and uneducated people live in Florida even in the Villages . Shame on Publix they are making record profits and should be requiring any one in the store to where a Mask. When you ask any numskull why they aren't wearing a mask they will tell you they aren't worried about catching the Virus. They are to selfish and stupid to realize its not only about there protection but protection of others.

[golfing eagles]

Yep there are ... and more that a few of them have been cremated or buried.

Love to see the statistics on that and the source from which you based that statement. Oh---there isn't any???? No surprise, since you just spouted out whatever came into your head without any specific knowledge of virology or epidemiology or any reference.
That being said, you could very well be right

[Boomer]

A couple of days ago, a security guard at a Family Dollar Store was shot and killed after getting into it with a woman refusing to wear a mask, as was required.

In Oklahoma employees of stores and restaurants were threatened with violence, including shooting, over masks.

(In case you missed these sick stories, they can be found on national news sites.)

[Topspinmo]

A couple of days ago, a security guard at a Family Dollar Store was shot and killed after getting into it with a woman refusing to wear a mask, as was required.

In Oklahoma employees of stores and restaurants were threatened with violence, including shooting, over masks.

(In case you missed these sick stories, they can be found on national news sites.)


The longer it goes , the worse it going to get. IMO we haven’t seen tip of the iceberg yet.

[PugMom]

That just begs the obvious question. How does the Surgeon General know that?

how does anyone know anything? gov't models

[Allpros11]

Look you can banter all you want , as of now there are 74,000 people dead. It’s not a game or a subject for debate. We have been very lucky here, but that luck may run out, and when you or someone you know is laying in a hospital bed trying to breathe,with a hose stuck down your throat, you’ll think differently. I have never written a response to any of the nonsense discussed on these sites, so I really don’t care to hear from anyone and I will not reply or post again. Figure it out for yourself but I don’t want some selfish idiot to stop me from seeing my grandchildren for the last period of my live. Please be safe

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The longer it goes , the worse it going to get. IMO we haven’t seen tip of the iceberg yet.

It makes me very grateful that Publix does NOT "require" everyone entering the store to wear masks. It only requires the employees to wear them. In a community where we have people "proud" to proclaim that they not only have a gun, but aren't afraid to use it and their rights are protected and damn the fear of anyone who doesn't like it - I'm VERY grateful that my employer isn't asking any of us to enforce mask-wearing in our stores by our customers.

[bpascani]

This behavior, which has not just been your post, but others as well, are why I will continue to stay home/away, and wait to see what happens. Some are younger, healthier (and maybe stupid too). I am among the group that has been advised to stay away for now, and I will.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

This behavior, which has not just been your post, but others as well, are why I will continue to stay home/away, and wait to see what happens. Some are younger, healthier (and maybe stupid too). I am among the group that has been advised to stay away for now, and I will.

Whose post? Who are you responding to? You didn't quote the post you're responding to, or mention their name. So your response has no context at all.

[Bay Kid]

At least flu deaths recorded are the lowest ever?

[ficoguy]

You have to wear a mask. Doesn't say where....around your arm, as a headband, whatever

[Topspinmo]

It makes me very grateful that Publix does NOT "require" everyone entering the store to wear masks. It only requires the employees to wear them. In a community where we have people "proud" to proclaim that they not only have a gun, but aren't afraid to use it and their rights are protected and damn the fear of anyone who doesn't like it - I'm VERY grateful that my employer isn't asking any of us to enforce mask-wearing in our stores by our customers.

Well, IMO has nothing do with gun rights.


So, you come in contact with several or lots of people You don’t know, where they’ve been, if they are carrier, or not in side enclosed building? Just take one person to sneeze to pollute large area IMO. I would think you’re employer would want to require people coming in to wear masks to offer some protection from people? Why did they put all the barriers at checking out?

Why are elected politicians close business and spouting wear masks when out in public? Why did they even shut down then. Why can’t I wake into any medical facilities without mask if the no danger?

I think there is danger inside in enclosed environment, not so much outside if you keep away from people you don’t know. But, that’s me.

[Topspinmo]

At least flu deaths recorded are the lowest ever?


Maybe they are counting them as covid19 deaths? Maybe they are counting all deaths of covid19? I sure they are testing ever person that died not in hospital??? If dead can get check, vote, why not test that majority of us can’t get? When has federal government and states ran by politicians been exactly right on anything?

[theruizs]

US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Monday, March 2 that wearing face masks could actually increase a person's risk of contracting COVID-19, echoing remarks he made on Saturday that called for people to "stop buying masks."

This is the most misinformed SG we have ever had. Actual evidence, and even the CDC disagree. But most, ideally all, people need to wear them and it would contain it better than lockdowns and closures that are trashing our economy and causing more actual harm than the pandemic.