View Full Version : Concerns of a prospective TOTV member
Talk Host
07-26-2010, 05:37 PM
The administrators recently received a message from an individual who was afraid that if they joined and began posting, they would be ridiculed by a certain few of the current members. Boy we sure were sorry to hear that anybody would hesitate to join for that reason.
There are those who like to say that one needs "A thick skin" to belong to a chat forum. :boxing2: Not Talk of The Villages. "Thick Skin" is not required here:welcome:.
We would remind all our current and future members that Talk of The Villages is a friendly place and that all posters should be treated in a respectful and friendly manner.
Thank you
Your friendly administrators
:BigApplause:
Rag Bagger
07-26-2010, 06:35 PM
Happened to me. I can't spell worth a darn. And can't type very well either but who cares. I don't. I figured out the type that do this though. I am fairly sure it is several of my old english teacher from school. We didn't really gell. I was not the best student and let them know.
Taltarzac
07-26-2010, 06:37 PM
The administrators recently received a message from an individual who was afraid that if they joined and began posting, they would be ridiculed by a certain few of the current members. Boy we sure were sorry to hear that anybody would hesitate to join for that reason.
There are those who like to say that one needs "A thick skin" to belong to a chat forum. :boxing2: Not Talk of The Villages. "Thick Skin" is not required here:welcome:.
We would remind all our current and future members that Talk of The Villages is a friendly place and that all posters should be treated in a respectful and friendly manner.
Thank you
Your friendly administrators
:BigApplause:
Alligator hide is needed for the political forum though as well as when the various threads turn political.
eweissenbach
07-26-2010, 06:47 PM
There are certain people on every talk site that feel compelled to point out their disagreement in a disagreeable way. I presume that most of them would not be as abrupt, confrontational, and downright nasty if they weren't on a relatively anonymous forum. There are ways to point out a disagreement without being insulting or dismissive, but some people don't seem to have that ability. I am with you TH, and would encourage you to strike posts that are unduly combative.
I agree all should write in a manner they would use if speaking directly to a person. It's easy to be picky or nasty when you can't actually see the person and easy for some to forget that a real person wrote what they're responding to.
Thanks for the reminder.
Pats2010
07-26-2010, 07:58 PM
13,870 new set of eyes came here and only one voiced concern? I would say that is a very good ratio? But like they say, one complaint is one too many.
Talk Host
07-26-2010, 08:13 PM
13,870 new set of eyes came here and only one voiced concern? I would say that is a very good ratio? But like they say, one complaint is one too many.
Sadly that was not the only comment. It was, however, the one that prompted me to make this post.
Pturner
07-26-2010, 08:30 PM
Dear concerned perspective TOTV members,
:wave: Please feel welcome here.
I first met some dear friends in TV on TOTV. TOTV is a friendly, warm and welcoming place. Administrators Talk Host and Tony do an admirable job of monitoring and disallowing meanness. Although it might be hard sometimes to draw the line, very rarely, except in the political thread, will you find anyone, to use ewwiseenbach's phrase, being "insulting or dismissive" of other people and/or their opinions. However, you won't even see that forum unless you "opt in". Even if you opt in, you don't have to post there. It is the only place on TOTV where alligator hide is needed.
If syntax is your concern, 99.9 percent of us don't care about your grammar and spelling, but do care to welcome you, help out if we can and seek out your thoughts and advice when you have them to share.
Give us a try, ok? We'd love to hear from you. Please feel welcome here.
PTurner
:wine:
K9-Lovers
07-26-2010, 08:36 PM
I had the same fear about posting comments. After reading TOTV for several months I noticed that those who are ridiculed or get put down fall into three categories:
1) They have an attitude to begin with, or
2) it is about grammar, spelling, etc., or
3) it is meant in a good natured way, but misunderstood.
I can understand category 1 and 3.
For category 2: if you can understand the poster's intent, whether he/she can spell or has poor grammar, please don't point out the mistakes. Doing so probably keeps a number of people from participating who may have valuable information for us all, or questions that need answers. Correcting misspelled words and grammar doesn't make you look smarter; it makes you look picky and ill mannered. If you would not correct someone's speech in person, continue that courtesy online.
Okay, thats mie too sense wurth. :o
zcaveman
07-26-2010, 09:26 PM
:BigApplause: :agree: Not only do we get corrected but the post usually deteriorates into a grammar lesson post.
Z
Russ_Boston
07-26-2010, 10:38 PM
Sure we're all going to make mistakes like using they're instead of there etc.
One thing I could point out to all is that you can, by using Firefox, automatically correct your spelling as you type, just like in Word. While that won't stop misuse of words it will catch your normal typos.
Does that mean that I'm going to stop telling people that it's SUMTER not SUMPTER? Heck no. You've been warned:)
Boomer
07-26-2010, 11:02 PM
‘bout dem pitchforks and torches......
I wish I did not feel like I have to try to explain this, but I am getting the feeling that I do so here goes….
I have fun with the running routine about English majors that shows up here once in a while -- poor besmirched, put-upon Boomer. (sigh)
That English major routine that I get into is all in fun. I know that. And I hope others do, too.
But pointing at someone’s post and correcting for grammar or spelling or punctuation is not in good fun. In fact, I think it’s kind of mean. I have never done that. And I never will.
A little known fact about most English majors: Most English majors are interested mainly in how the writer feeeeeels. Most English majors are far too busy reading between the lines to care about what's actually on the lines. (Please do not ask me how I know this.)
Besides, I do lots of things that I am certain could drive the pure and righteous grammarians nuts. (I hope so anyway.)
It’s weird to feel like I need to try to explain this. I have been so comfortable around here, for such a long time. And, btw, I was once afraid to post, too.
Well, it’s getting close to midnight, and I have a rule for myself that I should never type after midnight. Who knows what I might write? I might even start telling that story again -- for the 4th time -- the one about my friend who used to hang out in bars telling lies to guys who hit on her -- saying she worked for the phone company -- rather than admitting that she was that pariah of all pariahs -- the dreaded English teacher. :22yikes:
Goodnight.
Boomer
K9-Lovers
07-26-2010, 11:21 PM
Boomer, everyone knows the running joke about you being an English major, and loves your posts. I can't recall you ever bringing out your red pen and making corrections on others' posts in this forum.
Oh no, remember getting your paper back in class and seeing all those dreadful red corrections??
Yes, it's after midnight and now I'll have that nightmare about not being able to find my locker in school . . . .:read:
Boomer
07-26-2010, 11:28 PM
K9,
Thanks.
I still have nightmares about my best friend not picking me for her team in gym class. NEVER! Just because I was terribly uncoordinated. Still am. (I dance like Elaine on Seinfeld.) We are still best friends today, but that does not mean that I do not bring this issue up from time to time.
Boomer
chuckinca
07-27-2010, 01:10 AM
I might even start telling that story again -- for the 4th time -- the one about my friend who used to hang out in bars telling lies to guys who hit on her -- saying she worked for the phone company -- rather than admitting that she was that pariah of all pariahs -- the dreaded English teacher. :22yikes:
Goodnight.
Boomer
You're not Mrs Traphagen are you?
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zcaveman
07-27-2010, 06:13 AM
Does everyone know that there is a free spell checker provided on this forum?
Click on Reply. Click on the ABCcheckmark in the upper right hand corner. Click on OK. Download and Install IeSpell. Shutdown all IE windows and restart IE. Click on Tools on the IE task bar and click in IeSpell Options to configure it for your use.
Bring up TOTV and do a reply. Do a right click and click on IeSpell to check the spelling.
During the first reply you will get a request to download an active X control. Click okay. Before you click OK save what you were typing because it will go bye-bye.
It can then be used as a spell check on all internet sites. I use it all the time.
Per Russ's post, Firefox has a spell checker built in.
Z
Lou Card
07-27-2010, 08:15 AM
You think you get flamed for an error in English, try saying something positive about our current President. You will be stripped of all that is holy.
:rant-rave:
BobKat1
07-27-2010, 08:24 AM
Why post that here if you know the outcome???
Pats2010
07-27-2010, 08:27 AM
I was corrected the other day on my punctuation. Instead of lashing back I sent a PM to the offender asking her to please "do not correct me in public." She did not have the courtesy to PM me back.
Lou Card
07-27-2010, 08:39 AM
:MOJE_whot:I was corrected the other day on my punctuation. Instead of lashing back I sent a PM to the offender asking her to please "do not correct me in public." She did not have the courtesy to PM me back.
Now that is a good idea.:MOJE_whot:
Lou Card
07-27-2010, 08:41 AM
Why post that here if you know the outcome???
Just to let others know to be careful who you tell who you support.
Supporting the current President on this board can get you in big trouble.
:shocked:
Pats2010
07-27-2010, 08:49 AM
Just to let others know to be careful who you tell who you support.
Supporting the current President on this board can get you in big trouble.
:shocked:
That is why you have to join political. Another reason is to keep it out of these threads.:police:
Lou Card
07-27-2010, 08:54 AM
That is why you have to join political. Another reason is to keep it out of these threads.:police:
Pat, I did join that forum for three days. I was told real quick to get out and die. I had to log out to let my wounds heal. If you disagree in that forum, they come at you 5 or 6 strong and beat ya like a rabid skunk.
:faint:
BobKat1
07-27-2010, 10:00 AM
That is why you have to join political. Another reason is to keep it out of these threads.:police:
Wise advice Pats.
Talk Host
07-27-2010, 11:06 AM
Pat, I did join that forum for three days. I was told real quick to get out and die. I had to log out to let my wounds heal. If you disagree in that forum, they come at you 5 or 6 strong and beat ya like a rabid skunk.
:faint:
If your posts seem to draw an unwelcome response in "political," then they will be that ten fold out here on the streets.
graciegirl
07-27-2010, 11:21 AM
Dear concerned perspective TOTV members,
:wave: Please feel welcome here.
I first met some dear friends in TV on TOTV. TOTV is a friendly, warm and welcoming place. Administrators Talk Host and Tony do an admirable job of monitoring and disallowing meanness. Although it might be hard sometimes to draw the line, very rarely, except in the political thread, will you find anyone, to use ewwiseenbach's phrase, being "insulting or dismissive" of other people and/or their opinions. However, you won't even see that forum unless you "opt in". Even if you opt in, you don't have to post there. It is the only place on TOTV where alligator hide is needed.
If syntax is your concern, 99.9 percent of us don't care about your grammar and spelling, but do care to welcome you, help out if we can and seek out your thoughts and advice when you have them to share.
Give us a try, ok? We'd love to hear from you. Please feel welcome here.
PTurner
:wine:
What P said.
graciegirl
07-27-2010, 11:30 AM
You think you get flamed for an error in English, try saying something positive about our current President. You will be stripped of all that is holy.
:rant-rave:
I am sorry to hear that you were badly treated but I don't have the courage to go to Political much. It seems that except for a few considered posters there is a lot of bashing going on there. I think it only fair to warn any future residents that The Villages is LARGELY Republican.
There is another moderate who lives here (I am not sure if she is a Democrat or a Republican). I ran into her at the recent TV luncheon at Crispers.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen and out of the political forum. Boy Howdy!!
Pats2010
07-27-2010, 11:34 AM
Dear concerned perspective TOTV members,
:wave: Please feel welcome here.
I first met some dear friends in TV on TOTV. TOTV is a friendly, warm and welcoming place. Administrators Talk Host and Tony do an admirable job of monitoring and disallowing meanness. Although it might be hard sometimes to draw the line, very rarely, except in the political thread, will you find anyone, to use ewwiseenbach's phrase, being "insulting or dismissive" of other people and/or their opinions. However, you won't even see that forum unless you "opt in". Even if you opt in, you don't have to post there. It is the only place on TOTV where alligator hide is needed.
If syntax is your concern, 99.9 percent of us don't care about your grammar and spelling, but do care to welcome you, help out if we can and seek out your thoughts and advice when you have them to share.
Give us a try, ok? We'd love to hear from you. Please feel welcome here.
PTurner
:wine:
I have noticed alot of digs aimed at the political forum. Has anybody who has thrown these daggers ever visited another political forum on any other site ?
I have participated on a few political forums on other sites and I can honestly say that this political forum on TOTV is the most civil I have ever had the pleasure to visit.
I just wanted to say this because I have not seen many posts coming to the defense of political.:wave:
Taltarzac
07-27-2010, 11:56 AM
I have noticed alot of digs aimed at the political forum. Has anybody who has thrown these daggers ever visited another political forum on any other site ?
I have participated on a few political forums on other sites and I can honestly say that this political forum on TOTV is the most civil I have ever had the pleasure to visit.
I just wanted to say this because I have not seen many posts coming to the defense of political.:wave:
There is not a great deal of blood in the water on TOTV in all its forums when compared with many of the other message boards on the web. You do need though to be prepared for a few bites from the fish if you wander on the political forum on TOTV and start defending various Democratic politicians.
Pats2010
07-27-2010, 12:15 PM
There is not a great deal of blood in the water on TOTV in all its forums when compared with many of the other message boards on the web. You do need though to be prepared for a few bites from the fish if you wander on the political forum on TOTV and start defending various Democratic politicians.
Have you been to or participated in political forums on other sites? I was once a member of a site that had a forum called "The Tavern." They had many forums on that site but you had better be armed if you entered the tavern.
I try to treat the political forum as if I was walking into a real bar. I enter discreetly and chose my words carefully until I know the people who are drinking there. If you enter with your guns a blazing, you had better take cover quickly.
Diplomacy goes a long way there.
macro
07-27-2010, 01:14 PM
Pat, I did join that forum for three days. I was told real quick to get out and die. I had to log out to let my wounds heal. If you disagree in that forum, they come at you 5 or 6 strong and beat ya like a rabid skunk.
:faint:
There is not a great deal of blood in the water on TOTV in all its forums when compared with many of the other message boards on the web. You do need though to be prepared for a few bites from the fish if you wander on the political forum on TOTV and start defending various Democratic politicians.
Pats2010 and Tal, :agree: The forums are extremely civil and highly informative. 99 & 44/100 % are helpful and courteous. As in all public forums, you may find an occasional sniper or drive-by. Ignored long enough, they go away. The fact that the political forum is an 'Opt-In' forum makes it some place you have to choose to expose yourself to responses to your opinions. If you read the reasonable posts, you will notice they just want claims backed up by reliable FACTS, not just 'talking points'. The anonymity of posting does not give you license to be cruel and demeaning. As the administrators ask of us, Think Face-to-face.
:( Lou, I don't recall anybody telling you to 'get out and die'. Just supply facts to back up statements. I'm sorry you're feeling 'wounded'.
Bucco
07-27-2010, 01:18 PM
Pats2010 and Tal, :agree: The forums are extremely civil and highly informative. 99 & 44/100 % are helpful and courteous. As in all public forums, you may find an occasional sniper or drive-by. Ignored long enough, they go away. The fact that the political forum is an 'Opt-In' forum makes it some place you have to choose to expose yourself to responses to your opinions. If you read the reasonable posts, you will notice they just want claims backed up by reliable FACTS, not just 'talking points'. The anonymity of posting does not give you license to be cruel and demeaning. As the administrators ask of us, Think Face-to-face.
:( Lou, I don't recall anybody telling you to 'get out and die'. Just supply facts to back up statements. I'm sorry you're feeling 'wounded'.
Actually for those who are afraid that in political Mr Lou was treated badly for no reason, please PM me...I will be glad to copy and forward you all of his posts and the responses...especially those when he first posted welcoming him aboard knowing his leanings politically.
The Political forum is NOT a "lions den"...most however will not allow you without questioning to just SAY THINGS. There needs to be some credibility for what you say.
Unfair criticisms of that area in my opinion !
Talk Host
07-27-2010, 03:43 PM
The smart thing for me to do is close this thread.
JLK
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