no pickleball ... but

[village dreamer]

no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

[Cheeks]

Noise abatement...................kidding it makes no sense at all

[tophcfa]

no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.

[dewilson58]

no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:
Social Distancing................apples & oranges. Duh.

[Topspinmo]

Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.


IMO There no connection between outdoor sport and catching the virus. It all speculation. Golfers get closer than 6 feet, people in restaurants get closer than 6 feet, people in stores get closer than 6 feet. No reason to Not open out door activities for individual play. I can see restrictions large group activities as precaution. Can’t stay closed for ever. I will admit bocce and shuffleboard are closer and harder to keep separated.

[village dreamer]

in pickleball at the net , its 7feet to the net , 14 feet from one side to the other

[perrjojo]

Bocce, shuffleboard, etc. you may be social distancing but all are possibly touching same equipment.

[Pballer]

I read in the Sun today that basketball is going to be allowed to. If you are not within 6 feet of each other you are not playing it right.

[JGVillages]

Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.

Not when tagging someone out at a base!

[shut the front door]

Not when tagging someone out at a base!

In senior softball in TV, tagging is never required. It's a safety issue.

[Marathon Man]

no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

But only if you have your own equipment.

[Topspinmo]

in pickleball at the net , its 7feet to the net , 14 feet from one side to the other

Tennis is even better, nobody around here can make it to net! :icon_wink:

[Topspinmo]

But only if you have your own equipment.

News flash tennis you always had you’re own equipment, that is if you know how to play, nobody that plays game regularly plays with the dead balls and Wally World rackets in sports sheds, they are there for visitors.

At the end of pickleball we had Our own equipment and water also.

[thelegges]

Dead balls go to the dog (so to speak) and who doesn’t own at least 3 racquet

[CFrance]

in pickleball at the net , its 7feet to the net , 14 feet from one side to the other
You can tell the people who don't play pickleball. No one stands at the net; it's illegal to go into that area unless a ball happens to land there. And even if it did, the people on the other side of the net would still be seven feet away. The area around the net is formally called the no volley zone, colloquially called "the kitchen," and if you step into it when there's no ball there, you lose the point.


In doubles, team players are about six feet apart or more. The only contact from team to team is the ball, and unless you sneeze or cough on it, the likelihood of getting covid-19 is slim.


The problem I think the Rec dept is dealing with is the part called open play, where people line up to play. If they restricted four people to a court and went to a reservation or system like they do in golf, that problem would go away. There would be no line of people waiting to play.


Or, if they can monitor the pools and only allow a certain number of people in for a certain amount of time, they could do the same at the pickleball courts.

[CFrance]

Tennis is even better, nobody around here can make it to net! :icon_wink:
That's funny!:1rotfl:

[Topspinmo]

Dead balls go to the dog (so to speak) and who doesn’t own at least 3 racquet

I’ve downsized to about 10 babolats and heads. Easy to string on my stringer.

[TimeForChange]

Incorrect re golf. In the three groups I play in on Champ courses we maintain six feet at all times. That is the rule. Not saying some do not abide in other games but in our group we do.

[Rwirish]

Makes perfect sense, it’s called social distancing.

[donassaid]

You obviously don't play much pickleball because very few people playing doubles ever get closer than 6 feet together. The "kitchen" line is 7 feet back on both sides of the net and few people go into the kitchen. Not to mention that the virus only survives for 90 seconds in heat and humidity.

[EileenK]

We were using our own equipment all through March. It should always be ‘play at your own risk.’ Many couples play so if you play with your spouse against another couple the risk would be extremely low. Or put the nets up and we can play skinny singles.

[aa1949a]

Do you really think that The Villages will hire that many people to cover all the pickleball courts to control all the old children we have in the Villages?????

[600th Photo Sq]

Florida is currently in Phase I, and the decision has been made here in The Villages that playing Pickleball is not workable.

With that in mind all of you will just have to accept that decision.

Phase II when it happens might have far less restrictions than what is in place now.

From what I have read and heard our Country will open up by Memorial Day.

Just 3 short weeks away.

Meanwhile Amazon has Kites.

[bmit16]

There is still no evidence that anyone has contracted this virus doing outside activity. The virus has spread in nursing homes and close office space where the air system recirculates the virus. There is evidence now that the virus does not exist in sun and hot air. Open outside activity, the virus will not spread. There are expert opinions out there that back this up.

[EileenK]

At the end of March we left the middle court empty and people waiting to play were in line at an appropriate distance. We brought our own balls, paddles and water. Put the nets up please!

[rstebbins]

I agree with that. PB is by definition almost totally six feet apart and the courts are farther apart than that. As you said the big issue is the excessive numbers of people lined up to play on the next open court. Towards the end we all tried to stay apart. Starting this time of year it is less of an issue becasue of no snow birds. Wear gloves, wash the balls etc, the sport is outdoors where we are safer. Look at New York stay inside and get sick.

[bmit16]

I bet everything would open up tomorrow if the governor declared a hold harmless law for covid 19. This would mean no one could be held liable if someone contracted covid 19 while participating in an activity at their facility. They are all worried they will be sued if they open and someone gets the virus.

[Altavia]

There is still no evidence that anyone has contracted this virus doing outside activity. The virus has spread in nursing homes and close office space where the air system recirculates the virus. There is evidence now that the virus does not exist in sun and hot air. Open outside activity, the virus will not spread. There are expert opinions out there that back this up.

Exactly!

[DanBrew]

Einstein said it best. "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

[wayneman]

At the end of March we left the middle court empty and people waiting to play were in line at an appropriate distance. We brought our own balls, paddles and water. Put the nets up please!
Some of us have ball Machines and could practice by ourselves. Lowering the nets was a cruel thing to do.

[argos5usa]

There are no legitimate "health and safety" reasons to keep pickleball courts closed at this point.... In fact, the Rec Department's current decision to keep them closed is now adversely impacting the physical health of those who rely on such exercise for conditions like high blood pressure.

It is much healthier for people to be outside doing exercise than sitting at home and being afraid to touch anything.

[Topspinmo]

Do you really think that The Villages will hire that many people to cover all the pickleball courts to control all the old children we have in the Villages?????

So, what makes golf so special, o I see as long as don’t affect my sport (if you want to call it that) it’s Ok to bash other right?


Maybe they need to hire more ambassador’s? So they don’t have to spend millions on course repairs, keeping them from driving up to greens, and Keeping some inline at starter shacks and parking lots apart.

[Topspinmo]

Social Distancing................apples & oranges. Duh.


Let’s see corn hole beside each other, bags go In hole touching opponents bag, sliding across the platform, got reach in get the bags.Let’s see horseshoes, ( rarely see anybody playing anyway) horse shoes hit the ringer plop on top of Each other In the dirt, both players picking the up their horseshoe after the came in contact. Shuffle board not so much, but social distancing would be kinda hard. Don’t even want to discuss bocce. Yep apples and oranges when compared to other sports.

IMO all hypothetical BS which includes ALL outdoor sports.

[ItsALLaboutTheLOVE]

Not to mention that the virus only survives for 90 seconds in heat and humidity.

Hmmm... I think that is incorrect information. one of my best friends is a viral disease professor. There are lots of incorrect data on the internets. They are not yet certain what heat and humidity does to the virus. But it is definitely alive for more than 90 seconds! Most surfaces is a day to a week with each timeframe reducing the effectiveness of the virus. so it would be less contaminated after a week then after day one.

But yes, the contact with the ball or clinking paddles after the game is over at the net is the risk in pickleball. Ideally the pickleball would be dumped in a 10% bleach solution quite often during the game. Probably singles would be the best idea. If full-court singles is too difficult you can play skinny singles. You only use half the court. So it's like you're playing doubles because you're only covering your half.
That's my two cents, it's worth what you paid for it...

[graciegirl]

There are no legitimate "health and safety" reasons to keep pickleball courts closed at this point.... In fact, the Rec Department's current decision to keep them closed is now adversely impacting the physical health of those who rely on such exercise for conditions like high blood pressure.

It is much healthier for people to be outside doing exercise than sitting at home and being afraid to touch anything.

Usually it is. ABSOLUTELY you'd be right, COMPLETELY...…….that exercise is the best thing for everyone's general health, and pickleball would be one of the best ways, as it raises the resting heart rate and keeps it up for some time......But in these unusual times, older people are at much greater risk than the general population to die, IF they contract the virus.

[600th Photo Sq]

Social Distancing................apples & oranges. Duh.

Or Potatoes and Turnips. Do Da Day :doggie:

[ItsALLaboutTheLOVE]

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[Rosebud1949]

MASKS AND GLOVES, hand sanitizer, and disinfected balls..... we can play...... TV wont let us. Some monitoring needed for 6 feet distance OFF court when waiting... no problem...... just Rec Dept... when folk start deducting funds from the monthly CDD they pay as we have NO FACILITIES.. maybe that will help.

[roob1]

There have been numerous ongoing discussions similar to this one on The Villages Pickleball Community, a Facebook group, for those who wish to read/express additional opinions.

[fdpaq0580]

Usually it is. ABSOLUTELY you'd be right, COMPLETELY...…….that exercise is the best thing for everyone's general health, and pickleball would be one of the best ways, as it raises the resting heart rate and keeps it up for some time......But in these unusual times, older people are at much greater risk than the general population to die, IF they contract the virus.

While not a player of pickle ball or tennis, I am in favor of any outdoor exercise. Just wondered if players would be open to an idea similar to golf where players reserve a court (tee time), maybe, thirty minutes, check in at the rec center , pick up a "score card" to be clipped somewhere at the court showing who is allowed on ( inside the gate) which court. No non-players/spectators inside the court area. I am sure that there would have to be rules, safeguards and some level of supervision to keep non-player out and make the courts available and safe.
So, does anyone think this is an idea worth pursuing?

[jackandbeth]

In all 'Ball' sports except golf, first, you are all touching the same ball and second, at some point you are all within 3 feet of each other.
Both things are bad but together, disastrous.

[ldivens]

Write the villages with statistics I have done this several times and sent copies to the Governor and Lt. Governor for help. Maybe we need more people to do that. Don't complain give facts. BTY 3 feet on each side of the net and partners are not usually close, the point is to cover the court right?

[Michael Charles]

In senior softball in TV, tagging is never required. It's a safety issue.

I play in Division 3 but in Divisions 1 & 2 they follow the following rule:

From the villages softball Division 2 website:


"Division 2 uses regular Senior Softball rules whereby
runners must be tagged in a non-force out situation"

[jimjamuser]

Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.
Good point.

[jonathanb]

Villagers who want to play PB are playing. We just aren’t playing in The Villages. So the courts being closed are a moot point. Open the courts.

[jimjamuser]

I read in the Sun today that basketball is going to be allowed to. If you are not within 6 feet of each other you are not playing it right.
Playing basketball is just asking to catch CV.

[jimjamuser]

Do you really think that The Villages will hire that many people to cover all the pickleball courts to control all the old children we have in the Villages?????
Excellent point!

[jimjamuser]

Einstein said it best. "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
Nice quote.

[Jayhawk]

MASKS AND GLOVES, hand sanitizer, and disinfected balls..... we can play...... TV wont let us. Some monitoring needed for 6 feet distance OFF court when waiting... no problem...... just Rec Dept... when folk start deducting funds from the monthly CDD they pay as we have NO FACILITIES.. maybe that will help.

This place, very near The Villages, makes their living from Pickleball and they are locking out until at least mid-month, so folks shouldn't make it seem like it is just a Villages issue.

Engage ProShop & Training Center - EngagePickleball (https://engagepickleball.com/pages/proshop)
.

[newgirl]

Are the balls etc accessible? They said these things we're open before but locked equipment.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

I bet everything would open up tomorrow if the governor declared a hold harmless law for covid 19. This would mean no one could be held liable if someone contracted covid 19 while participating in an activity at their facility. They are all worried they will be sued if they open and someone gets the virus.

I hope they're not worried about this because there would be no way a person could pinpoint getting infected at the pickleball courts. We could get infected anywhere.

On another note, can anyone justify why basketball is reopening but not pickleball? Basketball players get much closer together than picklers. If the concern is waiting in line, maybe 6' markers on the sidewalk would help (like they've put near the cash registers in some stores). The crowd would self-enforce, because I'm sure someone in line will yell at anyone who is violating the rule.

[xNYer]

Nice quote.

No one who has posted here ever believes what they say is stupid, it’s everyone they disagree with who is stupid.

[Topspinmo]

This place, very near The Villages, makes their living from Pickleball and they are locking out until at least mid-month, so folks shouldn't make it seem like it is just a Villages issue.

Engage ProShop & Training Center - EngagePickleball (https://engagepickleball.com/pages/proshop)
.


Unless he brought the land the court Are on it’s city of Oxford? If so he had no say so in the closing of municipal courts.

[Topspinmo]

No one who has posted here ever believes what they say is stupid, it’s everyone they disagree with who is stupid.


I believe you. :1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

Do you really think that The Villages will hire that many people to cover all the pickleball courts to control all the old children we have in the Villages?????

It Is not the old children.....it is the entitled class.

[Marathon Man]

MASKS AND GLOVES, hand sanitizer, and disinfected balls..... we can play...... TV wont let us. Some monitoring needed for 6 feet distance OFF court when waiting... no problem...... just Rec Dept... when folk start deducting funds from the monthly CDD they pay as we have NO FACILITIES.. maybe that will help.

So - you say that rules will be violated. You are so right about that.

[Engine12]

What makes golf so special.... The Villages collects money form the golfers, that’s probably why it was never shut down.

[stan the man]

keep courts closed --- too noisy --sound travel "ping, ping"

[Bay Kid]

If I don't play I don't want anyone else to play. Seems to be the mentality.

[charmed59]

While not a player of pickle ball or tennis, I am in favor of any outdoor exercise. Just wondered if players would be open to an idea similar to golf where players reserve a court (tee time), maybe, thirty minutes, check in at the rec center , pick up a "score card" to be clipped somewhere at the court showing who is allowed on ( inside the gate) which court. No non-players/spectators inside the court area. I am sure that there would have to be rules, safeguards and some level of supervision to keep non-player out and make the courts available and safe.
So, does anyone think this is an idea worth pursuing?

Most tennis in the Villages is played like this. Courts are reserved for a two hour period by one person. Their email list determines who plays that day. Only four people per court show up and play. No spectators or extra people on the court.

[Topspinmo]

It Is not the old children.....it is the entitled class.

you're talking about golfer's right!

[MichiganKid]

Ridiculous, there playing everywhere but the villages, Delweb spruce creek has been playing with no restrictions for a week, spruce creek for several weeks, ladylake same, pare park for over a month,, I have a medical degree and understand cellular and viral interstitial processes and the news and politics has swayed the facts in such a non factual arena its sad.. the numbers are a fallicacy, we have the least cases in villages, ladylake, summerfield etc than anywhere in the world.. several of us, same people have been playing for over a month and we are all doing well. Your going in stores touching everything, do you not realize if you have it your applying virus on everything you touch, and how many people know how to remove a glove properly. I’m done, common sense and logic does not apply when people think in panic or scare mode.

[Topspinmo]

Ridiculous, there playing everywhere but the villages, Delweb spruce creek has been playing with no restrictions for a week, spruce creek for several weeks, ladylake same, pare park for over a month,, I have a medical degree and understand cellular and viral interstitial processes and the news and politics has swayed the facts in such a non factual arena its sad.. the numbers are a fallicacy, we have the least cases in villages, ladylake, summerfield etc than anywhere in the world.. several of us, same people have been playing for over a month and we are all doing well. Your going in stores touching everything, do you not realize if you have it your applying virus on everything you touch, and how many people know how to remove a glove properly. I’m done, common sense and logic does not apply when people think in panic or scare mode.

I guess the think the virus sticks like super glue to stick to ball spinning 2000 plus MPH and going 60 to 90 plus MPH (tennis) but pickleball even slicker even though it’s half the speed and spin. And of course it survive’s being hit by paddle or racket after sprayed with alcohol.

[queasy27]

.. the numbers are a fallicacy, we have the least cases in villages, ladylake, summerfield etc than anywhere in the world..

You seem to be selective about which numbers are a fallacy and which aren't. "Anywhere in the world" is absolutely the former.

[GoPacers]

You seem to be selective about which numbers are a fallacy and which aren't. "Anywhere in the world" is absolutely the former.

There is a lot wrong/incorrect in the post you reference but that fits today's narrative. Aver something you heard or you want to be true and then it becomes fact!!!

[xNYer]

Ridiculous, there playing everywhere but the villages, Delweb spruce creek has been playing with no restrictions for a week, spruce creek for several weeks, ladylake same, pare park for over a month,, I have a medical degree and understand cellular and viral interstitial processes and the news and politics has swayed the facts in such a non factual arena its sad.. the numbers are a fallicacy, we have the least cases in villages, ladylake, summerfield etc than anywhere in the world.. several of us, same people have been playing for over a month and we are all doing well. Your going in stores touching everything, do you not realize if you have it your applying virus on everything you touch, and how many people know how to remove a glove properly. I’m done, common sense and logic does not apply when people think in panic or scare mode.

You lost all credibility when you saId we have the least cases anywhere in the world. That is so obviously wrong.

[coffeebean]

There are no legitimate "health and safety" reasons to keep pickleball courts closed at this point.... In fact, the Rec Department's current decision to keep them closed is now adversely impacting the physical health of those who rely on such exercise for conditions like high blood pressure.

It is much healthier for people to be outside doing exercise than sitting at home and being afraid to touch anything.

Touch anything you like (he he he). Just don't touch your face!

[golfing eagles]

... I have a medical degree and understand cellular and viral interstitial processes and the news and politics has swayed the facts in such a non factual arena its sad.. the numbers are a fallicacy, we have the least cases in villages, ladylake, summerfield etc than anywhere in the world...

You seem to be selective about which numbers are a fallacy and which aren't. "Anywhere in the world" is absolutely the former.

You lost all credibility when you saId we have the least cases anywhere in the world. That is so obviously wrong.

I'd be interested in knowing what kind of "medical degree" you hold and where you got it. If you are a M.D., you would know that "cellular and interstitial viral processes" have nothing to do with contagion, spread, or epidemiology of a pandemic. You would know that once those processes are at work, the virus is replicating and you ARE infected. You would know that at that point, you are either an asymptomatic carrier, mildly sick, very sick or even dying. That coupled with the erroneous statistics posted makes me question your "degree". If you are a physician and having a (very) off day, I apologize. But even in that case you shouldn't be spreading misinformation on social media.

[golfing eagles]

Touch anything you like (he he he). Just don't touch your face!

double entendre???

[JoMar]

PB returns Monday......so they can close this one......what's the next target :)

[golfing eagles]

PB returns Monday......so they can close this one......what's the next target :)

Mahjong???

[Two Bills]

Mahjong???

No! No!

Roundabouts or Stickers!! :a040:

[coffeebean]

double entendre???

You get it!

[golfing eagles]

You get it!

Actually, my 9 year old granddaughter had to explain it to me :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: