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twoplanekid
05-09-2020, 08:41 PM
In comparing the identical model houses on these two streets whose lanais face each other, the price of the new houses on Dyson Loop facing power lines are significantly less than the new ones on Feulner Place facing the same power lines. I suspect that Dyson Loop might be a little bit closer to the power lines than Feulner place.

So, if you don’t mind hugging power lines, save a buck to live on Dyson Loop.

As an example, a Ruby on Dyson Loop is listed for $186,710 while an identical looking Rudy on Feulner Place is $213,140.

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tophcfa
05-09-2020, 08:46 PM
Brings up the ongoing debate of the health risks of living too close to electromagnetic fields. I don’t know the answer, but it is a consideration.

dewilson58
05-09-2020, 08:51 PM
In comparing the identical model houses on these two streets whose lanais face each other, the price of the new houses on Dyson Loop facing power lines are significantly less than the new ones on Feulner Place facing the same power lines. I suspect that Dyson Loop might be a little bit closer to the power lines than Feulner place.

So, if you don’t mind hugging power lines, save a buck to live on Dyson Loop.

As an example, a Ruby on Dyson Loop is listed for $186,710 while an identical looking Rudy on Feulner Place is $213,140.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S727.15?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.0230746301618&lat=28.813280795740912&lvl=9)

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S730.12?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.02337315392249&lat=28.813688113014923&lvl=8)


and your point??

twoplanekid
05-09-2020, 09:24 PM
and your point??

As these houses are identical except for maybe the location to the power lines, would one be a better deal than the other? Are there other factors that might make a difference in the price of houses on these two streets that are identical models? I am always looking for a good deal for a rental. So, would one of the houses on Dyson Loop be a better value as a rental?

As I have time to discuss things with everyone, I am asking for thoughts from others. Certainly not trying to incite a riot, I am just wondering out loud. And, found these two streets which are so close to one another and facing each other across power lines to be interesting. It’s something unique that I haven’t notice in my entertainment of looking at houses in The Villages beginning in 2014.

I try to enjoy life, looking at houses and friendly forum talk.

Velvet
05-09-2020, 09:26 PM
My beautiful maple tree under conductors at an old address, absolutely covered in cankers. Please tell the tree that the electromagnetic fields are harmless.

manaboutown
05-09-2020, 11:29 PM
Do the houses near the power lines glow in the dark?

MSchad
05-10-2020, 05:10 AM
If you read the home details for the one on Feulner Place at $213,140, it says with golf cart garage. May need to go look because picture may not be accurate.

Dilligas
05-10-2020, 05:10 AM
Are all other aspects of the two homes identical? Exact same appliances, exact same floor covering, same counter tops, same cabinets, etc. Many times it’s the “little things” that add up.

David Fletcher
05-10-2020, 05:13 AM
I don’t know the area. Are both properties new from the developer or are they resales?

I suspect there is a reason for the different values. If it is too good to be true, it might be just that.

CarrieOn
05-10-2020, 05:21 AM
To be honest.. out of all the land TV owns.. why choose to put those beautiful homes with those utility poles to look at for the rest of your/my life.. I am scouring to find our dream retirement home in TV and completely nixed that entire strip of neighborhood.. you can even see the lines right from your first curbside appeal.. very confused when I saw those..

twoplanekid
05-10-2020, 06:05 AM
If you read the home details for the one on Feulner Place at $213,140, it says with golf cart garage. May need to go look because picture may not be accurate.

They state "1 Car, plus Golf Car Garage" which I believe means that you can fit one car and a golf cart in the one garage.

I may travel to this location to take a better look. And yes, all of the houses are new in popular new Villages south of 44.

MollyJo
05-10-2020, 06:09 AM
No way would I buy a house so near power lines, also hurts resale. Still trying to figure out who would buy a $500,000 + house on an alligator pond. Water view???

Trishakaye
05-10-2020, 06:12 AM
and your point??

Why does there have to be a point? It’s just interesting and doesn’t have anything to do with Covid!

HiHoSteveO
05-10-2020, 06:21 AM
One house faces north, the other faces south. It makes a difference to some and could affect the values.

Rwirish
05-10-2020, 06:30 AM
Both are great deals, live by a power line!

photo1902
05-10-2020, 06:31 AM
My beautiful maple tree under conductors at an old address, absolutely covered in cankers. Please tell the tree that the electromagnetic fields are harmless.

It’s called Eutypella Canker, and is very common.

coffeebean
05-10-2020, 06:32 AM
In comparing the identical model houses on these two streets whose lanais face each other, the price of the new houses on Dyson Loop facing power lines are significantly less than the new ones on Feulner Place facing the same power lines. I suspect that Dyson Loop might be a little bit closer to the power lines than Feulner place.

So, if you don’t mind hugging power lines, save a buck to live on Dyson Loop.

As an example, a Ruby on Dyson Loop is listed for $186,710 while an identical looking Rudy on Feulner Place is $213,140.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S727.15?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.0230746301618&lat=28.813280795740912&lvl=9)

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S730.12?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.02337315392249&lat=28.813688113014923&lvl=8)

Location, location, location!

sdeikenberry
05-10-2020, 06:52 AM
My beautiful maple tree under conductors at an old address, absolutely covered in cankers. Please tell the tree that the electromagnetic fields are harmless.

Not to be pushy, but cankers/burls happen on trees due to a fungus or bacteria. They happen naturally in trees everywhere. Woodworkers covet burls because they have beautiful grain and swirls. To associate burls with high tension power lines really isn't correct. But it makes good conversation. :-)

shellart3
05-10-2020, 06:57 AM
Brings up the ongoing debate of the health risks of living too close to electromagnetic fields. I don’t know the answer, but it is a consideration.

Not to mention, all the electricity that the inside of your home generates......NOT 90+ feet off the ground.

check out the link below for an answer
Do High Voltage Power Lines Cause Cancer? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2014/09/01/do-high-voltage-power-lines-cause-cancer/#628c1a786497)

We live on a preserve with power lines and my neighbors have been her for over 20 years.
They are in their 80's. WE HAVE NO WORRIES and love watching the eagles that roost on the support stantions every year.

vintageogauge
05-10-2020, 07:02 AM
No way would I buy a house so near power lines, also hurts resale. Still trying to figure out who would buy a $500,000 + house on an alligator pond. Water view??? ������

Eliminates a lot of neighbors behind you, attracts wildlife, more private, and lately $500,000 is a bargain on water.

SacDQ
05-10-2020, 07:07 AM
Take a 4ft florescence bulb and stand under the high voltage line and you’ll witness the power your body will be subject too 24 / 7.
This works if the lines are low enough.

Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com
05-10-2020, 07:11 AM
Do the houses near the power lines glow in the dark? I think that they do cause harm, I had a friend in Virginia, he let the electric company put high voltage lines, you could hear the lines humming, his cattle start to miscarriage and he had animals born with several problems (2 headed, 6 legged Cattle) had too many to disregard since before the lines he had no issues, he died of a rare form of Cancer. Yes I would never purchase a home near any overhead power lines.
:boom: :boom: :boom:

Travelhunter
05-10-2020, 07:15 AM
No way would I buy a house so near power lines, also hurts resale. Still trying to figure out who would buy a $500,000 + house on an alligator pond. Water view??? ������
It’s a view. Something to look at. Better than kissing lanais
Not sure how much more thats worth But it’s worth something

kpd3062
05-10-2020, 07:21 AM
To the OP’s original questions, I have noticed that also. There are several along the power lines that are priced low. I believe it’s because the developer knew there would be concerns by buyers of both esthetics and health concerns. I think if you are looking fo a rental it would be a great deal. I don’t know the answer as to any health dangers but I think if there were any it would be long term exposure for decades. Therefore if it is a rental it would be great either way.

B-flat
05-10-2020, 07:23 AM
In the more expensive home there is no carpeting in the bedrooms. At least that’s the way it looks in the few photos.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-10-2020, 07:25 AM
To be honest.. out of all the land TV owns.. why choose to put those beautiful homes with those utility poles to look at for the rest of your/my life.. I am scouring to find our dream retirement home in TV and completely nixed that entire strip of neighborhood.. you can even see the lines right from your first curbside appeal.. very confused when I saw those..

It creates a lower price point. People with a limited budget and are not fussy about the power lines may be very happy that they can buy a house for a little less.

RebeccaBolin
05-10-2020, 07:26 AM
In my humble opinion after briefly looking at both places, I think the difference is in view and the proximity to the High Tension wires. In the second house which is offered at a higher price, it appears to be further in proximity to the towers. If this house is only for a rental investment and no resale is considered, the lower price will bring a greater return of investment.

photo1902
05-10-2020, 07:28 AM
It creates a lower price point. People with a limited budget and are not fussy about the power lines may be very happy that they can buy a house for a little less.

Same holds true for the homes that back to the turnpike. There’s something for everyone!

Leadfoot_2009
05-10-2020, 07:28 AM
Yes but what are the long-term effects of the power lines cancers etc.??
I have seen more cheaper 55 + developments throughout the country placed near power lines where the land is cheaper but in the long run the long-term effects of being near these power generating lines and the effects of cancers and leukemia are untold

stan the man
05-10-2020, 07:50 AM
and your point??




And you could not figure it out ?????:pray:

merrymini
05-10-2020, 08:33 AM
On a quick look see, seem very similar and location could certainly be a factor. Any proximities to low level electromagnetic fields could be a health issue and, of course, a bad case of the uglies, neither of which makes these attractive to me. With all the options, I would assume these properties to be a harder sell. It always seems that the developer is able to sell properties like these better than they go in the resale market and I do not understand why.

Nevinmann
05-10-2020, 08:33 AM
Don't forget what happened to Charles McGill and his horrible death. This magnetic field stuff is nothing to fool around with.

JoeinFL
05-10-2020, 08:33 AM
Do the houses near the power lines glow in the dark?

No. But, the people do.

Challenger
05-10-2020, 08:35 AM
In comparing the identical model houses on these two streets whose lanais face each other, the price of the new houses on Dyson Loop facing power lines are significantly less than the new ones on Feulner Place facing the same power lines. I suspect that Dyson Loop might be a little bit closer to the power lines than Feulner place.

So, if you don’t mind hugging power lines, save a buck to live on Dyson Loop.

As an example, a Ruby on Dyson Loop is listed for $186,710 while an identical looking Rudy on Feulner Place is $213,140.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S727.15?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.0230746301618&lat=28.813280795740912&lvl=9)

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S730.12?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.02337315392249&lat=28.813688113014923&lvl=8)

First Law of Real Estate Value =Location, Location, Location.

JoeinFL
05-10-2020, 08:37 AM
Eliminates a lot of neighbors behind you, attracts wildlife, more private, and lately $500,000 is a bargain on water.

Agree 100%.
I’m one of those people that loves having everything you mentioned.

dewilson58
05-10-2020, 08:40 AM
And you could not figure it out ?????:pray:


Thank you for your post and for asking. Seems like you could have figured it out, but no I did not know why he posted, so I asked.


Since he has been looking at home since 2014, I was surprised at his post. It looks like he has time on his hands with this shut-in and he was just wondering (wondering out laud) what other thought.......even thou he probably already knew.


Does that help your confusion? Let me know if you need more help.

karostay
05-10-2020, 08:43 AM
Do the houses near the power lines glow in the dark?

No more than the homes built on Mt tops
That view northern lights

raynan
05-10-2020, 08:47 AM
I agree that the $26,000 could be finishes that are inside. They add up quickly.

mydavid
05-10-2020, 08:56 AM
In comparing the identical model houses on these two streets whose lanais face each other, the price of the new houses on Dyson Loop facing power lines are significantly less than the new ones on Feulner Place facing the same power lines. I suspect that Dyson Loop might be a little bit closer to the power lines than Feulner place.

So, if you don’t mind hugging power lines, save a buck to live on Dyson Loop.

As an example, a Ruby on Dyson Loop is listed for $186,710 while an identical looking Rudy on Feulner Place is $213,140.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S727.15?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.0230746301618&lat=28.813280795740912&lvl=9)

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S730.12?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.02337315392249&lat=28.813688113014923&lvl=8)

Most of TV power lines are under ground, but the farther south you go this may not be true.:ho:

justjim
05-10-2020, 08:57 AM
To be honest.. out of all the land TV owns.. why choose to put those beautiful homes with those utility poles to look at for the rest of your/my life.. I am scouring to find our dream retirement home in TV and completely nixed that entire strip of neighborhood.. you can even see the lines right from your first curbside appeal.. very confused when I saw those..

I get it. You want to build your dream retirement home so find the lot or home that makes your dream real to you. Nothing wrong with that thought.

coffeebean
05-10-2020, 09:07 AM
In comparing the identical model houses on these two streets whose lanais face each other, the price of the new houses on Dyson Loop facing power lines are significantly less than the new ones on Feulner Place facing the same power lines. I suspect that Dyson Loop might be a little bit closer to the power lines than Feulner place.

So, if you don’t mind hugging power lines, save a buck to live on Dyson Loop.

As an example, a Ruby on Dyson Loop is listed for $186,710 while an identical looking Rudy on Feulner Place is $213,140.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S727.15?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.0230746301618&lat=28.813280795740912&lvl=9)

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S730.12?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.02337315392249&lat=28.813688113014923&lvl=8)

Location, location, location!

coffeebean
05-10-2020, 09:08 AM
and your point??

Location, location, location. Oh....I think I said that already.

davem4616
05-10-2020, 09:10 AM
many factors contribute to the old saying..."location, location, location"

I wouldn't want to live too close to the Turnpike (noise)...too close to a swamp (bad things crawl out of them) or under power lines (those lines bleed)

dewilson58
05-10-2020, 09:16 AM
Location, location, location. Oh....I think I said that already.


Clueless.


Was not asking you.
My question was the second post........your post was much later.


I should ask what's your point, but I don't care.


:blahblahblah:

C4Boston
05-10-2020, 09:31 AM
Brings up the ongoing debate of the health risks of living too close to electromagnetic fields. I don’t know the answer, but it is a consideration.

We lived next to power lines for over 20 years. EMF's drop off rapidly as you move away and the distance from line to home is far enough. Unless you are up in the tower you will receive higher EMF's from your electric alarm clock, cell phone or the worst case scenario is an electric blanket which you are covering your entire body with an electric field. They are just ugly, at least we had mature tree line to block them.

mgkw1
05-10-2020, 09:42 AM
Brings up the ongoing debate of the health risks of living too close to electromagnetic fields. I don’t know the answer, but it is a consideration.
We lived under them for 22 years with no issues. A friend that worked for the local elec company brought a meter to measure what was in the air and the needle never moved. Unlike the bouncing it did at his job

BFISHER54
05-10-2020, 10:14 AM
The more expensive one has a water view, so it has a lot premium.

vnichilo
05-10-2020, 10:33 AM
It might be because one home has power lines in the back yard, that home is listed for less

fortstephenson
05-10-2020, 10:33 AM
October 2018 I purchased a rental home (north of 466 in Rio Ponderosa) with power lines directly behind the home. An advantage is there are no homes in the back of the house. The 2019 winter renters returned this year. We've had no complaints from renters.

Rosebud1949
05-10-2020, 11:00 AM
No way would I come to a lovely place like this and have my lanai 10-15 feet from someone else's. power lines, water towers or not..... Plenty of lovely homes with a little privacy.. north of SR 44......

Velvet
05-10-2020, 01:15 PM
It’s called Eutypella Canker, and is very common.

Thank you, I know tree canker is common but it is what can cause it. There are several factors, including environmental.

My studies showed that not everyone has susceptibility to electromagnetic fields but some people are. Personally, I prefer not to find out that I am.

Henryk
05-10-2020, 01:32 PM
Not to mention, all the electricity that the inside of your home generates......NOT 90+ feet off the ground.

check out the link below for an answer
Do High Voltage Power Lines Cause Cancer? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2014/09/01/do-high-voltage-power-lines-cause-cancer/#628c1a786497)

We live on a preserve with power lines and my neighbors have been her for over 20 years.
They are in their 80's. WE HAVE NO WORRIES and love watching the eagles that roost on the support stantions every year.

You can see them? How wonderful.

Velvet
05-10-2020, 01:46 PM
Glad, you are not susceptible. There is a large difference in the amount of electricity your home generates as compared to these power lines. But distance, even short ones, makes a large difference. The effect falls rapidly with distance.

Shimpy
05-10-2020, 02:57 PM
I have a pacemaker and the instructions are to stay away from electro magnetic fields such as a power tool next to your body, or wearing a cell phone in shirt pocket. High voltage of power lines I wouldn't chance.

Bogie Shooter
05-10-2020, 02:57 PM
Take a 4ft florescence bulb and stand under the high voltage line and you’ll witness the power your body will be subject too 24 / 7.
This works if the lines are low enough.

Are there any other conditions you want to add to support your first sentence? Clear day, low humidity, etc...…..

Bogie Shooter
05-10-2020, 03:00 PM
To the OP’s original questions, I have noticed that also. There are several along the power lines that are priced low. I believe it’s because the developer knew there would be concerns by buyers of both esthetics and health concerns. I think if you are looking fo a rental it would be a great deal. I don’t know the answer as to any health dangers but I think if there were any it would be long term exposure for decades. Therefore if it is a rental it would be great either way.
Or, when you look at the details of each house there are different makeups.
You are just assuming...…...

Debfrommaine
05-10-2020, 04:16 PM
I agree that the $26,000 could be finishes that are inside. They add up quickly.

I think you might be onto something. I heard the more expensive villas have no carpet but tile in all areas, etc.

Barborv
05-10-2020, 04:21 PM
Identical houses might not be identical. Price varies due to grade and type of wood the cabinets are, flooring, bathroom tile, granite, and window blinds. So, even if they look it, are all the things I mentioned identical?
As far as power lines, I myself wouldn't live near them, but to each is own. It's what you're comfortable with. I don't think cell phones are great for you either, but they're attached to mostly everyone's ear! My daughters sleep with them right next to them.

Barborv
05-10-2020, 04:22 PM
By the way, where is dyson place? What village?

Debfrommaine
05-10-2020, 04:47 PM
Marsh Bend, Lee Villas. We love our end unit and much of the lot is maintained by The Villages because of proximity. We have wonderful privacy, look out over the water and preserve and no power lines this side of Dyson Loop. Life is good, walking trails right by us are fabulous.

BobnBev
05-10-2020, 05:10 PM
Clueless.


Was not asking you.
My question was the second post........your post was much later.


I should ask what's your point, but I don't care.


:blahblahblah:

Is it possible you got upon the wrong side of the bed this morning, or are you suffering from "cabin fever":ohdear:

Velvet
05-10-2020, 07:42 PM
Take a 4ft florescence bulb and stand under the high voltage line and you’ll witness the power your body will be subject too 24 / 7.
This works if the lines are low enough.

Or you could use an EMF meter at various frequencies to see what exposure you have at different parts of your property. Available from amazon.

ValSetz
05-10-2020, 08:28 PM
Better to have power lines buried during hurricane season - can take hours, days, months to restore overhead. Just a thought.

newgirl
05-11-2020, 11:08 AM
Science has proven living under wires is dangerous.. If your car radio goes out under them and cell phone shuts down, they do affect humans and animals. Fact checked

Bogie Shooter
05-11-2020, 01:47 PM
Better to have power lines buried during hurricane season - can take hours, days, months to restore overhead. Just a thought.

They are talking about supply lines.

twoplanekid
05-11-2020, 02:02 PM
Some corrections and additions after viewing the homes from the outside

The rear of the houses face each other across two rows of power lines with the North houses raised 5 feet above ground level. There is a nice walking trail under the power lines whose entrance is quite nice close to the south (cheaper) row of houses. As pointed out, the Ruby (expensive one) on the north side may have laminate floors in the bedrooms although I could not confirm. While the north side homes are closer to the Water Lilly Rec Center, the south side houses are closer to the Everglade Rec Center. The area between the rear of the homes is expansive with the two power lines being quite high. It doesn’t look to me like this area would flood. I still believe the homes on the south side (cheaper) would be a better value with no homes to the rear.

Take a look at the pictures taken today 5/11/20

North side houses (costing more)
Dropbox - IMG_2641.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/p3mtmw4tr7k4ivv/IMG_2641.JPG?dl=0)
Dropbox - IMG_2642.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgz8zxd0jbt700h/IMG_2642.JPG?dl=0)
Dropbox - IMG_2643.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lq9h3l81swcv0sr/IMG_2643.JPG?dl=0)
Dropbox - IMG_2644.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xt147zek9srm2l/IMG_2644.JPG?dl=0)
Dropbox - IMG_2668.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8anaed7cru1jrpv/IMG_2668.JPG?dl=0)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwzovd9dr52xccg/IMG_2670.JPG?dl=0

Trail & power lines & south houses
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xyj6xvd1s3kcf4e/IMG_2649.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qroxt9b2lfz4jft/IMG_2654.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4lwkn359xkv541/IMG_2655.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9umyf7qitemcksn/IMG_2658.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8updn9fy871e20s/IMG_2660.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u367m32n392yqu6/IMG_2663.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pk5cdbvdn3kz72r/IMG_2664.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgb8vcq5d6yhr3f/IMG_2667.JPG?dl=0

DDVeteran
05-13-2020, 05:47 PM
Whenever I make a real estate purchase I always look at its future marketability. It doesn't matter what I may be willing to ignore, it's what a future potential buyer will. Regardless, high tension power lines are a big no no for me regardless the price discount. IOW, you couldn't pay me to live there.