New Apts. no age limit, income restricted on 466 just past Morse Blvd.

[FlintFredstone]

Looks like we will be getting a bunch of new neighbors soon. The Lake Sumter Apts. currently under construction on Hwy 466 adjacent to TV appears to be government subsidized housing. Their amenities list includes being very convenient to Sumter Landing and Brownwood on their website.

[manaboutown]

Section 8?

[tophcfa]

An affordable and close place to live for the people working at all the places us Villagers like to frequent.

[John_W]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/whats-being-built-466-near-rt-101-a-306004/?highlight=apartments

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/construction-project-466-cr100-303323/?highlight=apartments

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Working Class and lower income people living near us , OH My Lion, Tigers and Bears . I’m putting my home up for sale before property values crash

[Topspinmo]

Those are not in the villages or associated with developers, so it’s none of villages business. The squareS are open to public. But, if developers wanted to stop it I’m sure they could have just like they did off CR466 and B/V in that little square plot behind the hotel next to the family compounds.


With Brownwood apartments Now in district 13 what stopping the developers to building them throughout the districts and over crowding already crowded districts.
I see this in the potential in district 4 off cr42 by Phillips and souliere. Can crowd another 500 apartment in the open land in both areas. Also around saddlebrook, maybe one day the polo field will be 1000’s of apartments. Lot cheaper to build up than across.:popcorn:

[J1ceasar]

Z very funny people are worried about average middle-class citizens having places to live what do you think fixes your air conditioning in the middle of the summer? As for crowding I've lived here first the new Villages are crowding my my places! Route 27 and Route 441 and 301 I will major highways I see all you idiots doing 75 miles an hour on Route 44 coming off the turnpike 44000 new homes are planned in the area because of mr. And mrs. Morris don't blame another 500 people people in an apartment building

[Rich42]

Re the previous post......why don't people proofread, it makes no sense!

[Two Bills]

Z very funny people are worried about average middle-class citizens having places to live what do you think fixes your air conditioning in the middle of the summer? As for crowding I've lived here first the new Villages are crowding my my places! Route 27 and Route 441 and 301 I will major highways I see all you idiots doing 75 miles an hour on Route 44 coming off the turnpike 44000 new homes are planned in the area because of mr.And mrs. Morris don't blame another 500 people people in an apartment building

Is that yet another development company on site?

[davem4616]

I say great!

The folks that live outside TV and work inside TV are very important to TV lifestyle.

[Beachykeengifts]

No sense at all

[Siegfried]

They don’t know the dInference.

[Marathon Man]

Looks like we will be getting a bunch of new neighbors soon. The Lake Sumter Apts. currently under construction on Hwy 466 adjacent to TV appears to be government subsidized housing. Their amenities list includes being very convenient to Sumter Landing and Brownwood on their website.

And your point is?

[Eg_cruz]

Looks like we will be getting a bunch of new neighbors soon. The Lake Sumter Apts. currently under construction on Hwy 466 adjacent to TV appears to be government subsidized housing. Their amenities list includes being very convenient to Sumter Landing and Brownwood on their website.
And your point......great place for all TV employees to live .....don’t you think

[Eg_cruz]

Section 8?
No.....it’s just like the Rolling Acres you can’t have income higher then a set amount. Rolling Acres use to $2000 a month. Also they have a lower set income for seniors so this is a good thing not bad....great place for TV employees

[newgirl]

It is desperately needed if The Villages are going to need employees. There is 50 applications for every apt under 1350 a month and if young people can not find affordable housing close by ,the service industry will go down hill fast.
Be grateful, this will make The Villages restaurants, stores, etc. run smoothly with great service. More young folks, better choice of employees, happier everyone is!!

[tvbound]

It is desperately needed if The Villages are going to need employees. There is 50 applications for every apt under 1350 a month and if young people can not find affordable housing close by the service industry will go down hill fast.
Be grateful, this will make The Villages restaurants, stores, etc. run smoothly with great service. More young folks, better choice of employees, happier everyone is!!

That makes perfect sense.

Just as urban areas are finding out that it takes those, who some people would otherwise and previously turn their noses up at, to maintain basic services - TV also needs lots of employees to maintain the massive infrastructure.

[Bogie Shooter]

Run for the hills, the dam is about to break...……..

[mulligan]

I can't believe some genius implied we would all need alarms on our homes now because of the new apartments

[manaboutown]

More growth means more crime. Village Alarm is here to help you feel safe in your own home.

For more than 20 years I owned a self storage facility surrounded by apartments and enjoyed good rental income. Then the city granted Section 8 status to the apartments. The crime soon became so bad around my property that business people in the area started carrying hand guns at all times. Because the apartments lost their decent tenants the neighborhood changed and my rentals greatly diminished as potential customers no longer felt safe in the neighborhood. My business experienced several burglaries. Twice when I tried to visit the property the police department had crime tape up and swat teams out doing drug busts among the surrounding apartments. At that point I sold the property - cheap!

Based on my experience I would recommend getting a high quality alarm system installed along with cameras to anyone living near low income apartments as such apartments can attract drug dealers and addicts and criminals of every stripe.

[Jayhawk]

More growth means more crime. Village Alarm is here to help you feel safe in your own home.

I'm way more concerned with 30-something and 40-something deadbeat offspring living INSIDE The Villages than I am hardworking residents in nearby apartments outside The Villages.

Take away the crimes of the spawn and there wouldn't be enough news to report.

[MJY10101]

I see this as a great opportunity for a more diverse population. This is what I miss the most after moving here from the Northeast.

[sunny56]

Can anyone show me a Section 8 Apartment complex that didn't turn into a crime filled nightmare?

[Doro22]

Z very funny people are worried about average middle-class citizens having places to live what do you think fixes your air conditioning in the middle of the summer? As for crowding I've lived here first the new Villages are crowding my my places! Route 27 and Route 441 and 301 I will major highways I see all you idiots doing 75 miles an hour on Route 44 coming off the turnpike 44000 new homes are planned in the area because of mr. And mrs. Morris don't blame another 500 people people in an apartment building

:blahblahblah::mademyday:And the name isn’t “Morris”. It’s “Morse”.

[skip0358]

Where would you like people to live? I know how first hand how hard it is to find a decent place around here never mind an affordable one. I went thru it with my Daughter it's rough. So what IF the people who live there visit TV it's open to everyone. How many who work here need place to live nearby. Yes IF they have Children & If they go to the Charter School so what. They don't get a bus the parents have to provide transportation. We need people to work here and they need a place to live.

[John_W]

This new apartment complex is nothing new, 300 yards further east on 466 is Rolling Acres Apartments. It's for low income families, looking at past history, how has the residents there effected the Haciendas of Mission Hills or the homes in the Village of La Zamora? Are cars being vandalized at American Legion? Those are all within a 1/2 mile. Yes, that's true, couples cannot earn more than $34,000 to live in those apartments. They look neat as a pin to me.

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lady+Lake,+FL/@28.9154052,-81.9517278,1954m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e7c6ec5f5fcccf:0x37deb fac1c516933!8m2!3d28.9174855!4d-81.9228604)

https://image1.apartmentfinder.com/i2/r0tRVJa36iilQU92ON-eiLp5MtI-0kQplhP3c9H0Sxg/111/rolling-acres-apartments-lady-lake-fl-primary-photo.jpg

https://cdngeneral.rentcafe.com/dmslivecafe/2/82930/HiRes-824-Co-Rd-466--Lady-Lake--FL-32159----16v2.jpg?crop=(0,90.33333333333326,800,517)&cropxunits=800&cropyunits=534&quality=85&scale=both&

[sunny56]

People, take off the rose colored glasses. A better option would to build a mobile home park with affordable homes that workers could actually own and have a place for their families. I lived in an apartment complex that went section 8. After 5 years, we had 2 murders. That last year I was there waiting to retire down here, we had an animal living in our building who would go around and punch holes in your door. You want your workers living in that kind of terror, I don't think so. This is a nightmare waiting to happen. It is not the workers you have to worry about. It is the others that live off the system that eventually move in there and destroy it. Do you think section 8 people in Orlando or Leesburg who live off the system will not hear about this complex and think much better to live there. Trust me that is going to be the norm in 10 years.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Thank . what happened to common sense. We all rely on services where do you want these people to live. They will not have the use of our ammenities. Squares are not part of our ammenities. Shops are there for all to use. Calm down. I have heard people post they are selling before house prices drop. Oh my God. Where do you get your information.

[tvbound]

I see this as a great opportunity for a more diverse population. This is what I miss the most after moving here from the Northeast.

I totally agree, but won't be surprised if an ugly and repulsive attitude soon shows its face.

[Bogie Shooter]

I totally agree, but won't be surprised if an ugly and repulsive attitude soon shows its face.

Soon? Read above posts...between the lines.

[talleyjm]

Section 8?

Yes, Section 8. For those providing services to folk who live in The Villages. Probably a place to live for the waitress or bartender at places like The Chop House or some of Country clubs in The Villages.

[graciegirl]

I do not like subsidized housing for a variety of reasons.. All around us there is a wide variety of homes that are inexpensive to rent or even own for all levels of income. I hate it when people seem to think that everyone who lives in The Villages all had their home and lifestyle fall on us. Most of us moved through the ranks of not very much to get here. It is a matter of principle and life philosophy for me that I don't like subsidized housing. Normal housing that is not expensive is an option, that is the reason I say this. For some reason in my life, no matter what the subsidized housing seem to draw crime and it has NOTHING to do with color, creed. race, religion or income. There is no shame in low income neighborhoods. Most of us have been there. But for some reasons the housing built and administered by the government seems to have unusual problems.

[Mumbles]

Working Class and lower income people living near us , OH My Lion, Tigers and Bears . I’m putting my home up for sale before property values crash

I believe there are enough of us left to cover for you.:ohdear:

[bilcon]

I paid my dues and deserve a senior retirement community. Worked with kids all my life, now I want to spend time with adults. Pretty soon we'll have to open a waterpark here to entertain the families. Don't get me wrong, I love my children and grandkids, and lived only 5 minutes away from them for years. I don't mind them visiting me, but I don't want them or other peoples kids around me every day. That's why I moved to TV, and like some of the bloggers, I'm am not ashamed to admit my real feelings.

[tvbound]

Soon? Read above posts...between the lines.

Yeah, if I had read all of the comments before posting my own,, the usual code words and ugliness are pretty easy to see between the lines.

[Jayhawk]

Do you think section 8 people in Orlando or Leesburg who live off the system will not hear about this complex and think much better to live there. Trust me that is going to be the norm in 10 years.

Can you also tell the weather a month in advance, or the stock market a year ahead?

Or do you just prognosticate housing trends?

[mulligan]

Funny how the people who will look at those apartments as a great place to live with a short commute to their workplace are good enough to build your homes, landscape and finish them, clean up after you. cut the grass on your golf courses, serve you in the restaurants, and even empty your bedpan and wipe your butt when you're on the way out, but they're not good enough to sit down next to at the square and have a drink.

[golfing eagles]

Can you also tell the weather a month in advance, or the stock market a year ahead?

Or do you just prognosticate housing trends?

Maybe all three:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[manaboutown]

I do not like subsidized housing for a variety of reasons.. All around us there is a wide variety of homes that are inexpensive to rent or even own for all levels of income. I hate it when people seem to think that everyone who lives in The Villages all had their home and lifestyle fall on us. Most of us moved through the ranks of not very much to get here. It is a matter of principle and life philosophy for me that I don't like subsidized housing. Normal housing that is not expensive is an option, that is the reason I say this. For some reason in my life, no matter what the subsidized housing seem to draw crime and it has NOTHING to do with color, creed. race, religion or income. There is no shame in low income neighborhoods. Most of us have been there. But for some reasons the housing built and administered by the government seems to have unusual problems.

Yep. :agree:

It will be interesting to see if the apartments actually become and remain occupied by decent law abiding citizens who work at various jobs within the villages or by deadbeats and undesirables who commit crimes and cause problems.

One thing is certain, their housing costs come out of our pockets via our hard earned tax dollars.

[SharonW]

Assisted living on East side, houses on West side around church

[njbchbum]

Makes me wonder if those who work in the Villages now and complain about the traffic that makes up their commute will relocate to these new apartments and then realize that they have become the traffic! LOL

[skip0358]

Only time will tell but people need to live somewhere and apartment living is getting very tough to find trust me. I doubt with the amount of money being dumped into this project they'll let it go down the toilet. I find section 8 hard to believe.

[ALadysMom]

In a perfect world, folks who live in affordable housing projects would simply be law-abiding, hard-working people who need lower-cost housing. But in the real world, lower-cost housing too often attracts at least a few troublemakers who spoil it for everyone. Trouble starts a downward slide because good, law-abiding poor folks don’t want to live with trouble either—even if their rent is cheaper. There may be exceptions but not enough of them. Even people who really need more affordable housing are rightfully leery of the bad reputation Section 8 complexes have earned. Villagers have invested in “the lifestyle” during the final phase of life when there’s a strong likelihood of declining frail health. Many Villagers have moved long distances, some across the country, but each is far away from his/her established community of friends and family. Villagers’ unique needs & concerns should be carefully considered and respected. The Villages’ high density of vulnerable seniors deserve to be more cautiously considered than a more age-diverse community would be. Section 8 funding too often comes with lax or unenforced rules which could put seniors—as well as the complex’s other residents—at risk. Prejudice is far too easily asserted. It’s much more difficult to give appropriate consideration to justifiable concerns. It’s prudent and reasonable for everyone to be skeptical about this project.

[mamamia54]

In a perfect world, folks who live in affordable housing projects would simply be law-abiding, hard-working people who need lower-cost housing. But in the real world, lower-cost housing too often attracts at least a few troublemakers who spoil it for everyone. Trouble starts a downward slide because good, law-abiding poor folks don’t want to live with trouble either—even if their rent is cheaper. There may be exceptions but not enough of them. Even people who really need more affordable housing are rightfully leery of the bad reputation Section 8 complexes have earned. Villagers have invested in “the lifestyle” during the final phase of life when there’s a strong likelihood of declining frail health. Many Villagers have moved long distances, some across the country, but each is far away from his/her established community of friends and family. Villagers’ unique needs & concerns should be carefully considered and respected. The Villages’ high density of vulnerable seniors deserve to be more cautiously considered than a more age-diverse community would be. Section 8 funding too often comes with lax or unenforced rules which could put seniors—as well as the complex’s other residents—at risk. Prejudice is far too easily asserted. It’s much more difficult to give appropriate consideration to justifiable concerns. It’s prudent and reasonable for everyone to be skeptical about this project.

Beautifully stated and very true. I think most people don’t realize how it affects the surrounding areas. I agree with you, a Section 8 development near a “senior” community is not a good situation.

[skip0358]

Price Structure:
The Town of Lady Lake will be running water lines to the apartments after The Villages refused to support the infrastructure. The town will be enjoying a considerable upcharge. However, the residents will not be residents of the town.

One bedroom units will run between $804 to $1,099 per month; two bedroom units will run between $956 and $1,169; three bedroom units will cost $1,097 to $1,369 per month; and four bedroom apartments will cost between $1,210 and $1,544.

[ficoguy]

I started out at subsidized housing, Pitney Village, Atlantic City, NJ. Our rent was $75 a month for 3 br 1 bath, family of 5. But no one ever intended to live there permanently. It was like the scene in "Its a Wonderful Life", when the Martini family moved to Bailey Park ( without the goat). People would save for a down payment on a house and move as soon as practical. Or if you made over the income guidelines they raised your rent to market rate and you moved out. Unfortunately the idea of giving people a head start and a hand up turned into a permanent state of inertia where no one can or wants to get out

[ficoguy]

The Villages (The Corporation) should have a vested interest in keeping a local workforce that doesn't have to drive an hour each way every day or isn't getting gouged for some falling down rat trap. The fact that they did not want to support at least the infrastructure doesn't tell a good tale. Plus they could get huge tax credits if they went along with it.

[ficoguy]

Morse = Morris????

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I’m wondering if many of the complainers are people who are downgrading the new side all the time . Now that hoards of vandals will be living amongst you , the new side must be looking better , even with out feral hogs ( I’m still hoping to see one) our mosquitoes ( hey it’s Florida) and of course a plus for new side the vandals are locked up already