Private pool not owned by The Villages?

[xlhig]

We drove by a pool yesterday that was fenced off and there was a sign that stated it was not owned by The Villages. It was surrounded by Hernandez Dr, Dominguez Dr, Ramirez Ave and Delgado Ave. Who owns this pool and who can or cannot use it?

[rustyp]

We drove by a pool yesterday that was fenced off and there was a sign that stated it was not owned by The Villages. It was surrounded by Hernandez Dr, Dominguez Dr, Ramirez Ave and Delgado Ave. Who owns this pool and who can or cannot use it?

It is a private pool that belongs to that particular neighborhood of courtyard villas. That neighborhood pays all the fees the rest of us pay plus an added association fee which maintains the pool and their common area around it. I looked at a villa there years ago. Can tell you the association fee was substantial. FYI not the only area in The Villages that have a seperate association fee. Another area are the townhouses. Their fees, substantial also primarily covers outside maintenance and landscaping.

[Jayhawk]

It is a private pool that belongs to that particular neighborhood of courtyard villas. That neighborhood pays all the fees the rest of us pay plus an added association fee which maintains the pool and their common area around it. I looked at a villa there years ago. Can tell you the association fee was substantial. FYI not the only area in The Villages that have a seperate association fee. Another area are the townhouses. Their fees, substantial also primarily covers outside maintenance and landscaping.

The townhouses do pay a substantial monthly fee, but also have to make up any maintenance shortfalls. Recently townhome owners were assessed over $20,000 for new roofs. That's $20,000 per unit.

[Stu from NYC]

The townhouses do pay a substantial monthly fee, but also have to make up any maintenance shortfalls. Recently townhome owners were assessed over $20,000 for new roofs. That's $20,000 per unit.

Wow, suspect most people were not prepared for that

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Wow, suspect most people were not prepared for that

Those are typically 400K+ townhomes. Pretty sure most people wouldn't drop that much money in an attached property without learning the details in advance.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Is that the place that was originally built to house prospective buyer from outside the country?

[John_W]

Those townhomes that circle SS and Glenview CC as mentioned already, are not cheap and they have concrete tile roofs. They go fast when they become available. Here are two at Spanish Springs and Glenview has none for sale.

This one is listed for $409K

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/L101.30?preowned&lng=-81.94954928508163&lat=28.938828296791538&lvl=6)

https://image.thevillages.com/api/ulikey/L101.30.jpg?w=648&h=400

This one is $325K

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/L101.26?preowned&lng=-81.94783369369638&lat=28.94152422611114&lvl=6)

https://image.thevillages.com/api/ulikey/L101.26.jpg?w=648&h=400

[davem4616]

almost sounds like living an HOA that's within an HOA...

[bilcon]

There is also another private residential area by HH CC. I think it used to be the Morse Family compound. My airport driver stopped there several years ago to pick of a couple and told my my gate key would not work there. It is off Avenida Central. Nice homes. Is it still private?

[msilagy]

The responses in this thread are wrong - the complex he referred to is not the townhouses mentioned but courtyard villas off of Rio Grande in Spanish Springs. The pool and park is private - I own a villa there - there is a HOA run by the residents of those villas. The Villages has nothing to do with the upkeep of that pool and the surrounding park - no money is spent by the villages. We pay to the HOA $65 a month to maintain the pool and park grounds. We also pay the amenity fees to the villages. It is private and only for use by the residents that live there. It is not voluntary - if you buy there you pay the HOA. The board members also live there and follow all HOA guidelines. There is a history as to why this exists - apparently some people from Great Britain asked the Villages to build them an area to live in and turn it over to them to maintain. The villages did just that however now there are only a few Britains left but the original concept remains. It seems that those villas sell well as people like the privacy they have. This is the real answer to the original post.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Yes. Still private. They also have additional fees.

[HappyRetired]

There is also another private residential area by HH CC. I think it used to be the Morse Family compound. My airport driver stopped there several years ago to pick of a couple and told my my gate key would not work there. It is off Avenida Central. Nice homes. Is it still private?

Hickory Head Hammock,, off Avenida Central was the Morse compound. It is still private (your gate key will not work). I think the lots are larger (I've never been in since my card won't work.) Currently there is a manufactured home with pool and out building for sale.

[thelegges]

Hickory Head Hammock,, off Avenida Central was the Morse compound. It is still private (your gate key will not work). I think the lots are larger (I've never been in since my card won't work.) Currently there is a manufactured home with pool and out building for sale.

Lots are large, Golf course surrounding The area. The houses are old, but maintained. We looked at one home end of last year. It was dated, but artistically very pretty. For us to bring up to date it needEd $20 to $30,000. It’s very nice and quiet

[nevjudbaker]

We will have the same with the Lofts. We pay separately to the Villages for full admenities monthly which we probably will use an executive course once a week if not at all. Plus we have our own fee added into our rent which is for The Lofts residents only. Trust me our rent is steep especially for the size of the apartment. We will pay it only because of location. We came from Jacksonville and our luxury apartment with a dog spa with sinks & counter to groom our dogs, pool separate with separate spa with BBQ grills & eating areas on a large covered area aside of the pool, glass garage doors opening up from the inside to have pool table, kitchen open to the outdoors by the pool, huge roof terrace with glassed in club room, indoor mail area, coffee,tea,water with coffee always ready to pour. Multi TV and lounge areas Separate yoga room, separate spin room & a huge workout room with an excellent supply of weights & machines. It had an inside car wash with high speed vacumn & it was located right in the middle of the high rent areas. We are paying almost $1,000 more per month for this apartment which is 100 sq feet smaller.
Not complaining because we could rent a long term villa or stayed there but we like The Lofts location and it is a 55+ apartment complex. I am just stating a fact just for those whiners complaining about the Lofts residents crowding their areas.

[John_W]

We will have the same with the Lofts. We pay separately to the Villages for full admenities monthly which we probably will use an executive course once a week if not at all. Plus we have our own fee added into our rent which is for The Lofts residents only...

The Lofts amenity fee is $162, here's the details at this link.

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Here's your rent scale.

First units available approximately June 1st.
>>> One yr lease.
>>> One bedroom starts at $1650
>>> 2 bedroom starts at $2145
>>> 3 bedroom starts at 3195
>>> Plus utilities and $162 amenities fee.
>>> Renewable after one year at prevailing rate.

[John_W]

The private pool that was asked about by the OP and explained in post #10 is located at this link.

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/search/hernandez+%26+dominguz,+the+villages,+fl/@28.9318932,-81.9550106,244m/data=!3m1!1e3)

The townhomes were brought up by a poster explaining that many areas have separate fees from others, but it has clouded the conversation. The townhomes having tile roofs explains why the costs were high and why it only pertained to them. However, as explained in post #10, they are not where the private pool is located, that is at the link above.

[VinoGolf]

The responses in this thread are wrong - the complex he referred to is not the townhouses mentioned but courtyard villas off of Rio Grande in Spanish Springs. The pool and park is private - I own a villa there - there is a HOA run by the residents of those villas. The Villages has nothing to do with the upkeep of that pool and the surrounding park - no money is spent by the villages. We pay to the HOA $65 a month to maintain the pool and park grounds. We also pay the amenity fees to the villages. It is private and only for use by the residents that live there. It is not voluntary - if you buy there you pay the HOA. The board members also live there and follow all HOA guidelines. There is a history as to why this exists - apparently some people from Great Britain asked the Villages to build them an area to live in and turn it over to them to maintain. The villages did just that however now there are only a few Britains left but the original concept remains. It seems that those villas sell well as people like the privacy they have. This is the real answer to the original post.

Very interesting. Thank you for this info!

[Barborv]

There is a house listed on the MLS that is in a private gated community with only 7 houses. They have their own private amenities and even a pool house residents can use for their guests. And have all the other amenities the villages has to offer. It said this was built for the developers. The house is on a huge lot, In the six hundred thousands and very outdated, and carport only. Its on Hickory Head Hammock.

[twoplanekid]

Very interesting. Thank you for this info!


It looks like there are 4 homes for sale in Villa De LA Mesa. In the description of one home, it states “This neighborhood is one of a handful with its own sparkling private adult pool” and in another “This neighborhood comes with its own private pool/park area and all the exterior painting is maintained by the H.O.A.” The other two homes for sale are missing this information. I didn’t know about this area having an H.O.A. with private amenities. Yes - Very interesting!

Listing for one -> Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S686.134?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-81.9536990650758&lat=28.93283681397886&lvl=8)

[twoplanekid]

There is a house listed on the MLS that is in a private gated community with only 7 houses. They have their own private amenities and even a pool house residents can use for their guests. And have all the other amenities the villages has to offer. It said this was built for the developers. The house is on a huge lot, In the six hundred thousands and very outdated, and carport only. Its on Hickory Head Hammock.

The one listed for $457,000 is still for sale in Hickory Head Hammock.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/how-about--manufactured-home-339-900-a-304706/

[rustyp]

It is a private pool that belongs to that particular neighborhood of courtyard villas. That neighborhood pays all the fees the rest of us pay plus an added association fee which maintains the pool and their common area around it. I looked at a villa there years ago. Can tell you the association fee was substantial. FYI not the only area in The Villages that have a seperate association fee. Another area are the townhouses. Their fees, substantial also primarily covers outside maintenance and landscaping.

If only some of you can digest what you read before you pull the typing finger. Notice I said the pool belongs to the courtyard villas neighborhood. Then I gave an added bonus of providing a not so obvious fact that there are areas in The Village that also have separate HOA fees like the townhouses. Nothing said about the townhouses owning a separate swimming pool. I'll stand by what I published as fact from first hand experience.