5 guys at brownwood

[village dreamer]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .

[Chatbrat]

Its a glorified McDonalds--what do you expect?--

[Joe V.]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .

Did you think of pointing this out to the manager? Calling him?

[npwalters]

So....don’t go back

[davem4616]

So....don’t go back

exactly...don't go back

but I do appreciate the heads up share....as I liked that venue

[Jayhawk]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .

So where did you end up going instead for lunch?

[Stu from NYC]

You should have said something to the manager

[Sensei]

Dangerous! During the Covid-19 pandemic the new Burger King by Aldi which serves residents of The Villages had two people in the drive-thru distribution window with face masks that were worn in inappropriate and dangerous manners like the 5 Guys staff: below mouth covering chin. The person was the one who leaned out of the window and handed the food to the drivers.

How does wearing a mask that covers the chin and leaves the nose and mouth exposed provide ANY safety in this time of world-wide crisis?!!! Where is the supervision? Where is the concern for the lives of customers or workers? A call to Burger King Corporate office was not yet returned.

[Tsego58]

This has been going on even before restaurant and non essential places were open. Like grocery stores, hardware stores and gas stations. Not just employees customers very often not social distancing or even wearing mask. The numbers fell for new cases and we opened any way. So what's the point.

[Cher1119]

Don't know about there, but around here in Michigan Our McDonald's has strict regulations from the Health Dept and Corporate McD's, to follow . Our crew wear masks at all times, gloves and constant sanitizing. Also preparing for when our lobbies open up. Sure is going to be different! I can't speak for all McDonald's owner operators but the ones we own here in Michigan are doing exactly what we are suppose to and more! Proud of our restaurants and our employees!!!! Sounds like our McD's are doing better for our customers safety then your Five Guys ������ You know.....your glorified McDonalds???!!!

[Dilligas]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .
That’s OK, the hamburger grease will kill off all the virus spores.

[PugMom]

Dangerous! During the Covid-19 pandemic the new Burger King by Aldi which serves residents of The Villages had two people in the drive-thru distribution window with face masks that were worn in inappropriate and dangerous manners like the 5 Guys staff: below mouth covering chin. The person was the one who leaned out of the window and handed the food to the drivers.

How does wearing a mask that covers the chin and leaves the nose and mouth exposed provide ANY safety in this time of world-wide crisis?!!! Where is the supervision? Where is the concern for the lives of customers or workers? A call to Burger King Corporate office was not yet returned.
posting this here isn't going to help. try speaking to an actual worker @ the establishment.

[DecaturFargo]

I personally know the VP of all of Five Guys. I will PM him.

[brianherlihy]

just don't go out and stay in your house

[Sunflower1]

Thanks for letting us know!

[bmit16]

Have you seen how few cases are actually in Marion and Sumter counties right now. When are you people going to relax. The mask police is not a real job. No more than the false hood that these types of mask actually protect anyone. Ironically, the mask and social distance police keep complaining, and the people in the Villages keep doing as they please and the covid 19 numbers do not seem to be climbing in TV's. So, lets move on and go back to complaining about golf carts and bicycles. There is nothing to see here people. As always, if you are scared, stay in your home, protect yourself and mind your own business. It is your responsibility to take care of yourself,. No one elses!

[Leadbone1]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .

First of all don’t know why anyone would go to five guys for an overpriced bad burger. That said, I care about tables being cleaned just as always at any restaurant. As for masks, they are a waste of time, as you have been told by many doctors. Their only value is primarily psychological. Viruses are microbial. You cannot hide from them. How long will this paranoia about a virus that is 99% survivable go on?

[John_W]

Dangerous! During the Covid-19 pandemic the new Burger King by Aldi which serves residents of The Villages had two people in the drive-thru distribution window with face masks that were worn in inappropriate and dangerous manners like the 5 Guys staff: below mouth covering chin. The person was the one who leaned out of the window and handed the food to the drivers.

How does wearing a mask that covers the chin and leaves the nose and mouth exposed provide ANY safety in this time of world-wide crisis?!!! Where is the supervision? Where is the concern for the lives of customers or workers? A call to Burger King Corporate office was not yet returned.

That's more than Wendys, Taco Bell or Jersey Mikes, they don't wear any masks since this has started.

First of all don’t know why anyone would go to five guys for an overpriced bad burger.

I totally disagree. They are excellent tasting, juicy especially if ordered with grilled onions. The fries are the best that you can get except for Thrashers in Ocean City Maryland, eaten with vinegar they are worth stopping for just that. I will agree they are over-priced and the placed has never been known for being the cleanest place at the square, especially if you compare it to McAlister's around the corner.

BTW, Thrashers has no ketchup, vinegar only. They sell no drinks, only fries.

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[JanetMM]

First of all don’t know why anyone would go to five guys for an overpriced bad burger. That said, I care about tables being cleaned just as always at any restaurant. As for masks, they are a waste of time, as you have been told by many doctors. Their only value is primarily psychological. Viruses are microbial. You cannot hide from them. How long will this paranoia about a virus that is 99% survivable go on?

For every “expert” saying mask yourself there is an “expert” saying it is useless or dangerous. I really don’t know who or what to believe. I only know that back in 1918-1920 with the Spanish Flu the people practiced social distancing and wore masks. It still had a number of “waves” hit during those 3 years and many lived and many died (and those were primarily the young and healthy). There is no one way With this pandemic that is guaranteed to save a life.
So I guess I have to agree with all y’all. Eat out/stay in...
Individual decision.

[detch]

I suggest ou carry your own sanitizer and wipes, even if they had meticulously wiped the table . You can add arm rests and chair to your cleaning task.

[ts12755]

When I walk in a restaurant and everyone working there is wearing a mask it makes me feel like everyone is sick and diseased. I eat at home.

[Singerlady]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .

I would call the manager and tell him and not return until they did wear masks. They need to be more careful.

[merrymini]

The gloves are a joke. Once you touch something with a glove, they need to be removed and disposed of and a new pair put on. No one does that. So everything you touch is being passed on to the next item. Really stupid.

[Singerlady]

Have you seen how few cases are actually in Marion and Sumter counties right now. When are you people going to relax. The mask police is not a real job. No more than the false hood that these types of mask actually protect anyone. Ironically, the mask and social distance police keep complaining, and the people in the Villages keep doing as they please and the covid 19 numbers do not seem to be climbing in TV's. So, lets move on and go back to complaining about golf carts and bicycles. There is nothing to see here people. As always, if you are scared, stay in your home, protect yourself and mind your own business. It is your responsibility to take care of yourself,. No one elses!

I believe that extra layer (the mask) might help...I’m willing to wear a mask rather than no mask and free-wheeling droplets. It wont HURT to wear a mask.....thinking forward.

[Singerlady]

First of all don’t know why anyone would go to five guys for an overpriced bad burger. That said, I care about tables being cleaned just as always at any restaurant. As for masks, they are a waste of time, as you have been told by many doctors. Their only value is primarily psychological. Viruses are microbial. You cannot hide from them. How long will this paranoia about a virus that is 99% survivable go on?

Doctors haven’t said that. They’ve said ‘your mask protects me and my mask protects you’. If what you said was true...why do nurses and doctors wear masks in surgery,, and for other medical procedures? Next t8me...tell them to put away their mask...infection city!

[Singerlady]

I live on a planet called reality! Unlike you I do not choose to remain a part of the gullible paranoid community. And I am resting wonderfully without a mask! 😎

Thinking medically...ok the next time you have surgery or a medical procedure and the doctors and nurses are wearing masks, tell them to put away their masks. Then you can be ready for the infection that might be spread to you. Better to put on that extra layer just in case it might help. Thinking forward.

[Tom53]

I think it's sad you didn't just talk to the manager first instead of blasting them on a social network because you saw something in your 5 minutes there. Listen idiot people are trying to save their business and living. Masks are not forever and I personally don't think its needed at all if you are scared stay home and stop complaining.

Wow, what a way to save your business. Flaunting rules like that makes you wonder what else is going on there, especially with food handling.

Attacking people who post about their concerns doesn't do much for your business either......

[Leadbone1]

Have you seen how few cases are actually in Marion and Sumter counties right now. When are you people going to relax. The mask police is not a real job. No more than the false hood that these types of mask actually protect anyone. Ironically, the mask and social distance police keep complaining, and the people in the Villages keep doing as they please and the covid 19 numbers do not seem to be climbing in TV's. So, lets move on and go back to complaining about golf carts and bicycles. There is nothing to see here people. As always, if you are scared, stay in your home, protect yourself and mind your own business. It is your responsibility to take care of yourself,. No one elses!

Nice to see a common sense post! I do not know why so many choose to run scared and remain paranoid about a virus that is 99% survivable. That group needs to just stay home if they’re so worried and stop trying to control the rest of us.

[Bogie Shooter]

I think it's sad you didn't just talk to the manager first instead of blasting them on a social network because you saw something in your 5 minutes there. Listen idiot people are trying to save their business and living. Masks are not forever and I personally don't think its needed at all if you are scared stay home and stop complaining.

Are you still a realtor?

[DeanFL]

After exec golf yesterday we and the other couple/friends thought "let's do lunch like months ago post-golf. Thought Subway would be fine, and we could eat in our carts 6' away. Before entering I told them - if the workers aren't wearing gloves and masks - no-go. Fortunately they were - I was prepared to tell them, 'you just lost 4 customers'. Instead I mentioned our satisfaction that they were prepared.

[Jacob85]

It’s nice to know who is not following guidelines. One meal is not worth risking your health! The managers should be contacted because they may not know what they are doing and don’t want to lose business I am sure

[Scorpyo]

Wow, what a way to save your business. Flaunting rules like that makes you wonder what else is going on there, especially with food handling.

Attacking people who post about their concerns doesn't do much for your business either......

Exactly. Some say, "You should complain to the employee or manager". Yeah right. I wonder what else would wind up in your food. I appreciate knowing that some businesses are trying to take precautions. The jury is still out on whether masks work or not. If you want to believe they don't I'm sure there's plenty of opinions on the internet to support your belief. Conversely, if you believe they do work, the internet will give you plenty of opinions to support that belief as well. Simply put, as others have said, surgery staff all wear masks for a reason. Maybe it's simply to hide the confused look on their face. For me, if a mask prevents even a very small chance of giving or contracting the virus I'll go with it. As for 5 Guys, if they can't even give the impression that they're concern for my welfare (whether or not they are) then I'm not concerned with supporting their jobs and business by giving them some of my money.

[Veiragirl]

went to lunch at 5 guys today . the help all had masks on around their chins not around their nose and mouth, and no one cleaning any tables. I don't think they are making things safe .
That place should have never been allowed in Brownwood. You can smell who has eaten there by the clothes they had on.

[Joe C.]

It seems that all the complainers assume that everyone out there has the virus except them. Everyone out there is spreading the virus except them. Everybody should stay home except them. They're the only ones doing the right things.

What the hell is happening to people?
Ready to accuse and bad mouth people who don't agree with them.
I have some news for you:
It's a tough world out there and it needs tough people … not whiners.

IMHO we should open up everything. Take off the masks and get on with life.

[Just Me]

I went to Cracker Barrel and although they had a table and employee outside, was told I had to go inside to pick up. Stood in line, paid, and stood some more to wait. Food was mediocre at best.

[billbob]

We noticed the same thing at Havana. They "wore masks" but they too were on their chins!!!! Not all of them did that but surprising how many didn't know how to wear their masks or needed them to "speak" to you, which wasn't the case at all.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The gloves are a joke. Once you touch something with a glove, they need to be removed and disposed of and a new pair put on. No one does that. So everything you touch is being passed on to the next item. Really stupid.

...UNLESS the thing you're touching is a bucket of industrial strength surface sanitizer and the rag that's used with that sanitizer to clean shopping carts.

If that's the case, then I'll say - those gloves are more sanitary than your hand-sanitized-once-ever-three-hours-when-you-remember-to-do-it will ever be.

[NJblue]

Nice to see a common sense post! I do not know why so many choose to run scared and remain paranoid about a virus that is 99% survivable. That group needs to just stay home if they’re so worried and stop trying to control the rest of us.

Even if the 99% survivable number were correct, would you be willing to get on an airplane if one out of a hundred flights crashed? The reality is that for our demographic in The Villages the survival rate is not nearly 99%. For the entire county it is less than 94 percent but the number of cases is dominated by the typically younger population in the county jail. Take that away and I'm sure that the typical death rate from the virus for retired people is considerably higher.

[BlackhawksFan]

You should have said something to the manager

What would you have done pre-internet when you didnt gave the opportunity to drag a business in public?

Instead of going immediately to your keyboard maybe speak up,,,, and ask to see the manager or shift leader and kindly and calmly state your case.

I'm also curious did you stay or leave? If you stayed it really wasn't that big a deal then.

[fdpaq0580]

Exactly. Some say, "You should complain to the employee or manager". Yeah right. I wonder what else would wind up in your food. I appreciate knowing that some businesses are trying to take precautions. The jury is still out on whether masks work or not. If you want to believe they don't I'm sure there's plenty of opinions on the internet to support your belief. Conversely, if you believe they do work, the internet will give you plenty of opinions to support that belief as well. Simply put, as others have said, surgery staff all wear masks for a reason. Maybe it's simply to hide the confused look on their face. For me, if a mask prevents even a very small chance of giving or contracting the virus I'll go with it. As for 5 Guys, if they can't even give the impression that they're concern for my welfare (whether or not they are) then I'm not concerned with supporting their jobs and business by giving them some of my money.

A mask is like a window screen. Air passes in and out. The tighter the weave the less that can pass through, like dust, pollen, germs and viruses. Any screen/mask is better than none IMHO.
As to expert advice, I remember when the Surgeon General first announced the potential for harm from tobacco. Smokers didn't want to believe it. Tobacco firms paid "experts" and doctors big money to deny the truth. The smokers clung to the tobacco companies propaganda and denied the truth, many to their great sorrow. Today the virus and the effectiveness of masks is the disagreement. Some say they live on planet "reality" (presumably in another solar system) and apparently see themselves as invulnerable rebels denying any evidence contrary to what they want to believe. I and many others live on planet Earth where a pandemic has been acknowledged world wide. Certainly there are some who are terrified. Others are cautious and concerned and trying to practice some level of social responsibility to protect themselves and others. But society will always have it's denier's (IE: Flat earth society).

[wayneman]

Have you seen how few cases are actually in Marion and Sumter counties right now. When are you people going to relax. The mask police is not a real job. No more than the false hood that these types of mask actually protect anyone. Ironically, the mask and social distance police keep complaining, and the people in the Villages keep doing as they please and the covid 19 numbers do not seem to be climbing in TV's. So, lets move on and go back to complaining about golf carts and bicycles. There is nothing to see here people. As always, if you are scared, stay in your home, protect yourself and mind your own business. It is your responsibility to take care of yourself,. No one elses!
First of all, i am not a germafobe. With that said, i am however a healthcare worker in one of our local hospitals. I do tests on positive covid19 pt's so i speak from experience. This virus has many ways of spreading. We wear masks and gloves for EVERY patient we treat. And a lot more PPE on positive patients.
Everyday masks are there to help protect the other people around you, and their mask is to help protect you. Studies have been done that if you sneeze and you are covid19 positive that sneeze can travel 6-8ft. It also can linger in the air for up to 3 hrs, inside a closed room. No one is 100% sure they are not carrying the virus. If you get tested you are not positive that day, that does not mean you won't be positive the next day. You would need daily testing for 14 days in a row to be sure, a bit unrealistic at this point. The state of Florida is still seeing a good amount of positive cases daily.
Our area has seen a significant decrease in positive cases. However, people travel, they come into contact with others from around the state, and the list goes on. The best thing all of us can do is just be diligent in hand washing. Washing your hands and not touching your face is paramount to keeping yourself safe. Wearing masks do help, regardless of what you say. I have a friend who is infected and going through a rough time. And someone else i know, from this area lost his wife to this virus. Are you willing to lose a friend or family member?? Just be smart and safe and don't think you are immune, because nobody is immune to this virus.

[rmd2]

When I walk in a restaurant and everyone working there is wearing a mask it makes me feel like everyone is sick and diseased. I eat at home.

Your choice. I am glad they are wearing masks.

[fdpaq0580]

We noticed the same thing at Havana. They "wore masks" but they too were on their chins!!!! Not all of them did that but surprising how many didn't know how to wear their masks or needed them to "speak" to you, which wasn't the case at all.

Years back many states enacted laws stating that motorcycle riders must wear helmets. Since the law was not specific, I remember many bikers (the more rebellious) strapped the helmet over a knee rather then look like a sissy and wear it on their head.
Maybe this is the new rebel look or maybe they are trying to keep the chin whiskers out of you food. Your guess is as good as mine.

[Bogie Shooter]

That place should have never been allowed in Brownwood. You can smell who has eaten there by the clothes they had on.

:what:

[Nordhagen]

Lighten up already

[jimjamuser]

Dangerous! During the Covid-19 pandemic the new Burger King by Aldi which serves residents of The Villages had two people in the drive-thru distribution window with face masks that were worn in inappropriate and dangerous manners like the 5 Guys staff: below mouth covering chin. The person was the one who leaned out of the window and handed the food to the drivers.

How does wearing a mask that covers the chin and leaves the nose and mouth exposed provide ANY safety in this time of world-wide crisis?!!! Where is the supervision? Where is the concern for the lives of customers or workers? A call to Burger King Corporate office was not yet returned.
It is one thing to tell people that they CAN go out and about to various businesses. It is another thing if they SHOULD trust their health and safety to that advice and actually GO to any business. And who can police doing the right thing if the people themselves don't know the right thing to DO or even care about their fellow human beings.

[Bogie Shooter]

Personal attack posts usually don't last long...….

[nevjudbaker]

I see that also & some havemasks on but push them down after a few minutes. Very bad for business. I wanted to get a hamburger but won't until I see them all wearing masks. Even take out they bring the bad out with their mask on the chin.
Please tell the PM.

[graciegirl]

Nice to see a common sense post! I do not know why so many choose to run scared and remain paranoid about a virus that is 99% survivable. That group needs to just stay home if they’re so worried and stop trying to control the rest of us.

It is survivable, devorejh, but to older people who contract it, the odds of surviving it are much, much grimmer. For an 80 year old the odds of survival 90%

I had better check on that. I am not always right, like a lot of posters.

This article says that 15% of 80 year olds die from the virus if they catch it.. Our average age here in TV is 71 I believe. It isn't any thing to take lightly.

Here is the article; Here's What Older At-Risk People Should Know About the Coronavirus (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-older-people-with-chronic-conditions-need-to-know-about-covid-19) People not with other health risks would have a better chance, but almost all of my amazing and wonderful and treasured and LOVED peers have a little bit of this or that...Sugar issues, Blood pressure, ……….

[coffeebean]

Have you seen how few cases are actually in Marion and Sumter counties right now. When are you people going to relax. The mask police is not a real job. No more than the false hood that these types of mask actually protect anyone. Ironically, the mask and social distance police keep complaining, and the people in the Villages keep doing as they please and the covid 19 numbers do not seem to be climbing in TV's. So, lets move on and go back to complaining about golf carts and bicycles. There is nothing to see here people. As always, if you are scared, stay in your home, protect yourself and mind your own business. It is your responsibility to take care of yourself,. No one elses!
Sooooooooo NOT TRUE. I wear a mask when I can not safely social distance to protect those around me. That means you! Masks block droplets. Have you seen the video I have posted a few times on this forum demonstrating how a simple T-Shirt material blocks droplets COMPLETELY? Don't tell me it is not my responsibility to protect others. It most certainly is.

[VinoGolf]

After exec golf yesterday we and the other couple/friends thought "let's do lunch like months ago post-golf. Thought Subway would be fine, and we could eat in our carts 6' away. Before entering I told them - if the workers aren't wearing gloves and masks - no-go. Fortunately they were - I was prepared to tell them, 'you just lost 4 customers'. Instead I mentioned our satisfaction that they were prepared.

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[coffeebean]

It seems that all the complainers assume that everyone out there has the virus except them. Everyone out there is spreading the virus except them. Everybody should stay home except them. They're the only ones doing the right things.

What the hell is happening to people?
Ready to accuse and bad mouth people who don't agree with them.
I have some news for you:
It's a tough world out there and it needs tough people … not whiners.

IMHO we should open up everything. Take off the masks and get on with life.

Just the opposite for those who wear masks. Those who wear masks must assume they are asymptomatic carriers of the virus. Mask wearers are protecting those around them. Mask wearers are not protecting themselves by wearing masks. Not everyone realizes this which is why I have posted about this ad nauseum. There are folks that still think their mask is to protect them which is so not true.

Your mask protects me and my mask protects you.

[coffeebean]

We noticed the same thing at Havana. They "wore masks" but they too were on their chins!!!! Not all of them did that but surprising how many didn't know how to wear their masks or needed them to "speak" to you, which wasn't the case at all.

Anyone who wears a mask must know that it should cover their nose and mouth. They choose not to wear it properly for what ever reason. Some remove the mask from their nose so they can breath better. Some remove it from their mouth so people can hear and understand them better as reading lips is part of listening and comprehending what a person says. Then.....they forget to get the mask back on their face properly. It should be up to their managers or co-workers to remind an employee to place their mask on their face properly.

[retiredguy123]

For the record, the Florida governor's recent executive order regarding restaurants, does not require restsurant workers to wear a mask. But, I don't think I would go to a restaurant where they didn't.

[bmit16]

I just read an article on how the "experts" are trying to figure out why Florida's infection rate is down 14% the past 10 days despite being the 1st to start opening up 10 days ago. This trend is ruining their agenda. Eventually the truth will rear its ugly head, and a lot of people will be made to look like fools.

[NebraskaRon]

That's more than Wendys, Taco Bell or Jersey Mikes, they don't wear any masks since this has started.



I totally disagree. They are excellent tasting, juicy especially if ordered with grilled onions. The fries are the best that you can get except for Thrashers in Ocean City Maryland, eaten with vinegar they are worth stopping for just that. I will agree they are over-priced and the placed has never been known for being the cleanest place at the square, especially if you compare it to McAlister's around the corner.

BTW, Thrashers has no ketchup, vinegar only. They sell no drinks, only fries.

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Great assessment — great burgers and fries. Yes, I grew up with Thrashers also — they are no. 1 and 5 guys no. 2.

[mkarba]

Thanks for info. I like knowing which restaurants are careful We should consider rewarding them with our business.

[graciegirl]

I just read an article on how the "experts" are trying to figure out why Florida's infection rate is down 14% the past 10 days despite being the 1st to start opening up 10 days ago. This trend is ruining their agenda. Eventually the truth will rear its ugly head, and a lot of people will be made to look like fools.

I am so longing to see that it is indeed waning. The flu usually subsides in the summer. We are then usually reminded to get out flu shots in October. I worry that this damned bug will return then?

[WinnieHa]

Do we want the economy to rebound? Do we want to continue to bend the curve? Yes! Public pressure on restaurants to practice safety measures is a good thing. For those people that can’t be bothered to wear a mask are either willfully misinformed or just extremely petulant.

[600th Photo Sq]

Look if you are unfortunate in getting Covid 19 your chances of living will be 90+%.

Sure you will be ill and feeling lousy and lose weight not a bad thing for some.

This fear , panic, has to stop. The media is fueling it !

Live your life like before , and set an example, to your children, and grandchildren for some ( great ).

I just shake my head on the fear mongering that is going on in this country. It's true.

[Leadbone1]

Even if the 99% survivable number were correct, would you be willing to get on an airplane if one out of a hundred flights crashed? The reality is that for our demographic in The Villages the survival rate is not nearly 99%. For the entire county it is less than 94 percent but the number of cases is dominated by the typically younger population in the county jail. Take that away and I'm sure that the typical death rate from the virus for retired people is considerably higher.

Whatever! Just stay home and stay paranoid. I choose to live

[Leadbone1]

It is survivable, devorejh, but to older people who contract it, the odds of surviving it are much, much grimmer. For an 80 year old the odds of survival 90%

I had better check on that. I am not always right, like a lot of posters.

This article says that 15% of 80 year olds die from the virus if they catch it.. Our average age here in TV is 71 I believe. It isn't any thing to take lightly.

Here is the article; Here's What Older At-Risk People Should Know About the Coronavirus (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-older-people-with-chronic-conditions-need-to-know-about-covid-19) People not with other health risks would have a better chance, but almost all of my amazing and wonderful and treasured and LOVED peers have a little bit of this or that...Sugar issues, Blood pressure, ……….

Like I said, if you are worried or paranoid about this virus and or if you have underlying conditions or comorbidities that by all means stay home. I have no problem with that. Just stop trying to control the rest of us that want to live our lives. I am 70 and I’m not worried about this one bit.