COVID 19 in The Villages

[CS1987]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.

[billethkid]

Remember trust but verify.
An opinion plus doctor's title does not = expert......in this case just another erroneous, uninformed extrapolation.

[Arlington2]

I suspect the doctor is disappointed by the lack of deaths, but will never say that out loud.

[golfing eagles]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.

Nice judgement call. I, for one, am glad that she is retired

[Arctic Fox]

but we needn't worry because, according to our hospital, "covid-19 is in the rear view mirror"

[Love2Swim]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.

We don't even know if it was actually a "she" and if the person was actually a doctor. People misrepresent themselves online to make themselves and their opinions appear more credible.

[vintageogauge]

We can all look back and say "I told you so" or "this is how I would have done it". I'm looking to the future and thankful that TV has good numbers

[allsport]

And that would have been true if we had not shut down totally. That is what saved us and the carelessness of reopening will cause the numbers to spike.

[coffeebean]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.

Thankful the good doctor was out in left field with her calculations.

[youngerday]

:Anyone can say anything. does not mean they know anything

[sipops]

That's why a doctors business is called a Practice.

[Joanne19335]

but we needn't worry because, according to our hospital, "covid-19 is in the rear view mirror"

Wanna bet?

[IvorT]

I read a piece yesterday, reminding us that epidemiology and virus modelling, etc. Are not sciences in the same way that Physics is a science. They are more like economics, where there are many variables, any of which can drastically affect the end conclusion.

[Joanne19335]

And that would have been true if we had not shut down totally. That is what saved us and the carelessness of reopening will cause the numbers to spike.

Finally, someone who understands reality. If we let our guard down and wrongly believe we are in the clear, we are in for what Dr. Bright said would be “the darkest winter in history.” I listen to the scientists—not our present leadership.

[Holpat39]

I'll keep in mind a month from now whether opening early will cause a spike in the Covid19 illness Another person who can predict the future.

[Linda Taranto]

I'm remaining cautiously optimistic; my husband is in a memory care facility and I'm so glad they are closed to the public. As much as I want to see him, I don't want this virus in his facility. I'm 74 years old so that does put me in the high-risk category. I will remain cautious for now!

[billethkid]

And that would have been true if we had not shut down totally. That is what saved us and the carelessness of reopening will cause the numbers to spike.

We do not know that to be true......yet.

Without knowing for certain how the virus affects whom and when the conclusion to 100% lock down may well have been the only answer. However the major disastrous effect is it locks down the majority not sick or at risk.

So let us not be so quick to snap back to total lock down if there is ever an increase in new cases. We will no doubt be confronted with numbers to "live with" as we have readily done for the flu....and getting in your car for a drive for that matter.

We cannot survive a 100% shut down approach again.

[almabxny120]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.
Fake news. Scare tactics to keep you shelter in which is not a healthy idea!!!!

[dewilson58]

:Anyone can say anything. does not mean they know anything




I resemble that remark.


:shocked:

[JonWilliams]

And that would have been true if we had not shut down totally. That is what saved us and the carelessness of reopening will cause the numbers to spike.

What "carelessness of reopening"? Seems to me the governor and the VCCDD folks in The Villages are following a very conservative path to reopening.

And what will be the source of the "spike"? There have been no new cases in The Villages so far this month, already 15 days and counting, which is beyond the 14-day incubation period. And UF Health Central Florida, which owns both Leesburg and The Villages Regional Hospitals, reports that all COVID-19 patients once hospitalized in their facilities have recovered and been released.

That's not good news, it's great news. Too bad some can't accept it.

[almabxny120]

Remember trust but verify.
An opinion plus doctor's title does not = expert......in this case just another erroneous, uninformed extrapolation.
Absolutely false information!!

[Dilligas]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.
That was that doctor's opinion, we all have one. TV have been lucky to avoid as much as we have, but we need to reopen cautiously and keep our guard up until there is an antivirual that will kill the virus....until then, we still can get infected.

[sallybowron]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.

We need to all get on our kness and praised God for proetcting us, Well maybe not on our knees, that opens a whole new can of worms. :pray: :bigbow:

[billethkid]

Absolutely false information!!

:icon_bored:

[Aloha1]

Wanna bet?

You're disagreeing with a medical expert?

:popcorn:

[Aloha1]

We need to all get on our kness and praised God for proetcting us, Well maybe not on our knees, that opens a whole new can of worms. :pray: :bigbow:

I thank God that we have not fallen into the trap of socialist government controlled medicine. Look at what's happening with the public/private partnership to find treatments and a vaccine. The administration has removed all the barriers that had been in place and allowed for free market innovation. There are literally dozens of potential vaccines and treatments currently under development or in test. Not a single country with "national" medicine can claim that.

[Mumbles]

I suspect the doctor is disappointed by the lack of deaths, but will never say that out loud.

Don't know exactly what you mean by DISAPPOINTED by he lack of deaths. Do you believe doctors wish to have lots of deaths on their hands? Or are you saying she is disappointed in the numbers of people dying, not that they died per se.:pray:

[Carlsondm]

The 'doctor' showed concern about us. Why be so demeaning. The conservative models used to predict the number of cases and deaths did show Florida peaking at the end of May, beginning of June. One of the concerns for us is tourists and visitors sharing the virus again. Don't let your guard down if you have underlying conditions.
Florida depends on those tourists. I suspect the testing and reporting were suppressed or at least minimally funded. Why fully fund a program that ultimately hurts your economy? Look at the percentage of deaths per number of positives for each of the states and and it tells another story.

[Mumbles]

We do not know that to be true......yet.
So let us not be so quick to snap back to total lock down if there is ever an increase in new cases. We will no doubt be confronted with numbers to "live with" as we have readily done for the flu....and getting in your car for a drive for that matter.

We cannot survive a 100% shut down approach again.

Don't get it: you say that we don't know that we'll have worse down the road with this virus, but then you state unequivocally "We cannot survive a 100% shut down approach again."

1) We never went through a 100% shut down.
2) You are using the same form of deciding for others that we cannot survive whatever else is coming.

Sorry, but I completely disagree with your final statement because it makes you appear to be an expert which, as long as I have been reading these messages, you have never revealed that about yourself. If you ARE, however, I will gladly embrace your thinking. I believe strongly in science and not in gut feelings or future projections sounding like knowledge unless that comes from lots of empirical evidence or scientific fact.

[Mumbles]

And UF Health Central Florida, which owns both Leesburg and The Villages Regional Hospitals, reports that all COVID-19 patients once hospitalized in their facilities have recovered and been released.

That's not good news, it's great news. Too bad some can't accept it.

I agree with you: It is wonderful news. But... lots of us don't exactly know FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN where to find the statistics you read.

Wouldn't it be a better thing in stating one's position to say WHERE/DATE that one's opinion comes from? There is so much printed menure out there in print that it is very NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to "know" anything absolutely. We've become a nation where our assumptions and guesses and gut feelings have buried, or very nearly so, the acceptance of science as truthful. God help us every one if that trend continues.:faint:

[CS1987]

We do not know that to be true......yet.

Without knowing for certain how the virus affects whom and when the conclusion to 100% lock down may well have been the only answer. However the major disastrous effect is it locks down the majority not sick or at risk.

So let us not be so quick to snap back to total lock down if there is ever an increase in new cases. We will no doubt be confronted with numbers to "live with" as we have readily done for the flu....and getting in your car for a drive for that matter.

We cannot survive a 100% shut down approach again.
Liberty University that stayed open during the lockdown recently completed their school session. They had zero coronavirus cases. I agree that we should not lockdown healthy people under 60 again. People with serious health conditions should stay home no matter their age but we should not quarantine healthy people

[CS1987]

I agree. Liberty University has stayed open and they just completed their spring semester. They have had zero cases of COVID 19

[Topspinmo]

I read an old letter to the editor dated April 1st the other day. It was from a retired doctor staying with friends in The Villages. She expressed alarm that social distancing didn't start until 7 days prior. She warned that because of that The Villages would have up to 30,000 cases of COVID 19 and between 1000 and 5000 deaths. The latest figures I've seen show 72 cases. I'm not sure about the number of deaths but I believe it is less than 12.


Nobody knows, it all opinions and speculation IMO. Way over blown except where world traveler’s when through and effected the population. IMO It was spreading at least by early January, IMO the world never had chance to stop it.

[Topspinmo]

Absolutely false information!!

You’re opinion!

[Topspinmo]

but we needn't worry because, according to our hospital, "covid-19 is in the rear view mirror"

For some of us? :icon_wink:

[Topspinmo]

And that would have been true if we had not shut down totally. That is what saved us and the carelessness of reopening will cause the numbers to spike.

There. NO Way of. Knowing That.

[Topspinmo]

I resemble that remark.


:shocked:

Me too!

[Jacob85]

I never understand the focus on number of cases and deaths as if proving there aren’t as many, prove something. If there are any deaths it is only a matter of time before the virus will spread if people don’t follow the guidelines. If they do follow them there will be less.

[Bill1701]

And that would have been true if we had not shut down totally. That is what saved us and the carelessness of reopening will cause the numbers to spike.
Just more speculation from a self-appointed 'expert.'

[cmak281]

And if two scientists disagree on the same thing which one do you listen to?

[Rosie53]

How many cases have there been in The Villages, and if you know, where do you find that information?

[Topspinmo]

And if two scientists disagree on the same thing which one do you listen to?

Neither, but you don’t know which one has the big grant based on his study....

[Topspinmo]

How many cases have there been in The Villages, and if you know, where do you find that information?

No way of knowing

[jebartle]

I thank God that we have not fallen into the trap of socialist government controlled medicine. Look at what's happening with the public/private partnership to find treatments and a vaccine. The administration has removed all the barriers that had been in place and allowed for free market innovation. There are literally dozens of potential vaccines and treatments currently under development or in test. Not a single country with "national" medicine can claim that.

Hmmmm! Oxford in UK

[GoPacers]

I thank God that we have not fallen into the trap of socialist government controlled medicine. Look at what's happening with the public/private partnership to find treatments and a vaccine. The administration has removed all the barriers that had been in place and allowed for free market innovation. There are literally dozens of potential vaccines and treatments currently under development or in test. Not a single country with "national" medicine can claim that.

This is so easily disproven with even the simplest of searches. What is the purpose of posting complete falsehoods???

The COVID-19 vaccine development landscape (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-020-00073-5)

[tvbound]

This is so easily disproven with even the simplest of searches. What is the purpose of posting complete falsehoods???

The COVID-19 vaccine development landscape (/articles/d41573-020-00073-5)

Because a lot of people will say anything off of the top of their heads that fit their agenda, knowing most people won't take the time to verify or refute with facts.

Thanks for not being one of those.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Aloha1
I thank God that we have not fallen into the trap of socialist government controlled medicine. Look at what's happening with the public/private partnership to find treatments and a vaccine. The administration has removed all the barriers that had been in place and allowed for free market innovation. There are literally dozens of potential vaccines and treatments currently under development or in test. Not a single country with "national" medicine can claim that.


This is so easily disproven with even the simplest of searches. What is the purpose of posting complete falsehoods???

The COVID-19 vaccine development landscape (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-020-00073-5)

They don't realize or cannot accept that its a falsehood. They do no research, they just ingest whatever distortions they hear on right wing conspiracy sites or news stations and regurgitate it. It fits their way of thinking, therefore it must be true. No logic whatsoever.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

It’s all political and they want to scare you. BOO 👻