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boatmaiden
05-17-2020, 12:41 PM
My husband and I are trying to support local business in a responsible way by wearing masks and following CDC guidelines. Last night we stopped by Ollies Frozen Custard but when we entered, the server was not wearing a mask. When questioned about this, she just shrugged and indicated she didn't have to. We made our purchase and left. Today I spoke with a co-owner who rudely informed me that there is not indication from the state that they HAVE to require their employees to wear a mask. When I pointed out that businesses around TV are having their employees masked, she said that was fine but she doesn't HAVE to make that a requirement and won't. When I pointed out that this was in total disrespect for her paying customers, she indicated that she didn't care. After 22 years of spending money in her store, it won't happen again! Just wanted to let people who are trying to be responsible in these times, Ollies is not respecting you. For people who are not following the CDC guidelines, don't bother commenting because, frankly, I don't care. This is just a warning for those of us who care for others.
fishon
05-17-2020, 01:26 PM
I'm only aware of two far southern Florida counties where facial covering is required.
Obviously the OP's outrage is superficial. They made a food purchase from a person without a face covering.
EdFNJ
05-17-2020, 01:37 PM
Are Florida restaurant workers required to wear masks? (https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/05/14/florida-restaurant-workers-required-wear-masks/5190355002/)
Are restaurant workers required to wear masks?
This question has come up frequently since Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order on April 29 allowing restaurants to open, with restrictions, on May 4.
The simple answer: No.
"Executive Order 20-112 does not mandate the use of masks," Karen Smith, director of communications for the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation, said via email.
"However, customers, employees and employers are encouraged to consult CDC guidance," she said.
Joe V.
05-17-2020, 01:39 PM
Are Florida restaurant workers required to wear masks? (https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/05/14/florida-restaurant-workers-required-wear-masks/5190355002/)
Are restaurant workers required to wear masks?
This question has come up frequently since Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order on April 29 allowing restaurants to open, with restrictions, on May 4.
The simple answer: No.
"Executive Order 20-112 does not mandate the use of masks," Karen Smith, director of communications for the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation, said via email.
"However, customers, employees and employers are encouraged to consult CDC guidance," she said.
Guidelines. Not laws.
brianherlihy
05-17-2020, 01:42 PM
just don't go and be nice
Joe V.
05-17-2020, 01:44 PM
just don't go and be nice
Why should I not go?
600th Photo Sq
05-17-2020, 04:18 PM
Why should I not go?
The possible reason that you should not go is very simple.
Because you don't feel like it. :shocked:
CFrance
05-17-2020, 04:57 PM
The OP lost credibility IMO when she confronted the store personnel about not wearing a mask and then made a purchase anyway.
And this is a forum, the purpose of which is to allow people to comment on issues. You don't get to pick and choose who can comment.
600th Photo Sq
05-17-2020, 05:57 PM
The OP lost credibility IMO when she confronted the store personnel about not wearing a mask and then made a purchase anyway.
And this is a forum, the purpose of which is to allow people to comment on issues. You don't get to pick and choose who can comment.
I totally agree. That said I do really like to comment.
And of course I put forth my solutions to problems. They often come to me completely out of the blue.
I fill a void here in The Villages. :)
Stu from NYC
05-17-2020, 06:17 PM
The OP lost credibility IMO when she confronted the store personnel about not wearing a mask and then made a purchase anyway.
And this is a forum, the purpose of which is to allow people to comment on issues. You don't get to pick and choose who can comment.
/very true posted thinks it is her way or the highway.
davem4616
05-17-2020, 06:27 PM
if I felt uncomfortable in a retail situation I would have just left, regardless of the history that I may have had with them (without making a scene)...yet the OP didn't and then came back the next day?
guess I'm too old to give a retail store '3 strikes'....before they're out
Hopeful2
05-17-2020, 07:46 PM
I went into Wynn Dixie yesterday for the first time in many weeks. The person working the deli counter was not wearing a mask. I turned around and walked out.
Mini_T
05-17-2020, 11:22 PM
I'm just curious how do you eat your frozen custard with a mask on?
John41
05-18-2020, 02:12 AM
I would have walked out. Complete disrespect for an older population at higher than average risk and a bad attitude.
Hayek1957
05-18-2020, 04:57 AM
The OP lost credibility IMO when she confronted the store personnel about not wearing a mask and then made a purchase anyway.
And this is a forum, the purpose of which is to allow people to comment on issues. You don't get to pick and choose who can comment.
That was the action that first caught my attention. A transaction was still conducted, only to complain about the lack of masks on a forum later.
Bearlythere
05-18-2020, 04:59 AM
Good for you , I wish more people would do that . Instead of being confrontational.
Rwirish
05-18-2020, 05:05 AM
Masks are not required. Can we let this go already?
swooner
05-18-2020, 05:19 AM
Why should I not go?
Duh! Maybe the next step could be the hospital?
Marty94
05-18-2020, 05:37 AM
Florida restaurants fall under the Department of Business and Professional Regulation. You can find the mandatory requirements online.
http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/os/documents/2020.05.15%20Posted%20Mandatory%20Measures%20and%2 0Best%20Practices%20for%20Restaurants.pdf
Enough
05-18-2020, 05:48 AM
What arrogance! Some businesses just don’t care about our age group. This is a horrible
sickness that can KILL you, it is not a joke. Plus, you can’t even get a test unless you are practically dead. You have to be safe.
Challenger
05-18-2020, 06:11 AM
The OP lost credibility IMO when she confronted the store personnel about not wearing a mask and then made a purchase anyway.
And this is a forum, the purpose of which is to allow people to comment on issues. You don't get to pick and choose who can comment.
Heard a similar criticism of Scooples , a few days ago. If I walked into and ice cream store and the server had no mask, I would walk out. If I didn't , I would be abetting the "crime" :a040:
600th Photo Sq
05-18-2020, 06:22 AM
I'm just curious how do you eat your frozen custard with a mask on?
Simple just put the custard in the sun for a few minutes then sip it through a straw,
It's still cold taste great.
I always carry a few straws in my car ya just never know when your need one. :)
shortstack
05-18-2020, 06:25 AM
The owner and co-worker executed their rights, no law was broken. If you, CFrance do not feel comfortable because the girl didn't have a mask on, don't go in but do not condemn the business or those you do not think that the masks are necessary at this time. Personally I think the gloves/masks are dirty. I would much rather see a server wash their hands on front of me like Subway employees do..
Leadbone1
05-18-2020, 06:30 AM
My husband and I are trying to support local business in a responsible way by wearing masks and following CDC guidelines. Last night we stopped by Ollies Frozen Custard but when we entered, the server was not wearing a mask. When questioned about this, she just shrugged and indicated she didn't have to. We made our purchase and left. Today I spoke with a co-owner who rudely informed me that there is not indication from the state that they HAVE to require their employees to wear a mask. When I pointed out that businesses around TV are having their employees masked, she said that was fine but she doesn't HAVE to make that a requirement and won't. When I pointed out that this was in total disrespect for her paying customers, she indicated that she didn't care. After 22 years of spending money in her store, it won't happen again! Just wanted to let people who are trying to be responsible in these times, Ollies is not respecting you. For people who are not following the CDC guidelines, don't bother commenting because, frankly, I don't care. This is just a warning for those of us who care for others.
Mask paranoia abounds. And many epidemiologists and other doctors have said they do very little or no good. That their value is mostly psychological.I’m heading to Ollie’s!
Leadbone1
05-18-2020, 06:34 AM
What arrogance! Some businesses just don’t care about our age group. This is a horrible
sickness that can KILL you, it is not a joke. Plus, you can’t even get a test unless you are practically dead. You have to be safe.
Maybe because there are actually some people (businesses) that realize that 99% of the masks that you see out there are worthless and do next to nothing. in fact some doctors have said that they actually cause more problems!
If your that paranoid stay home.
Leadbone1
05-18-2020, 06:37 AM
The owner and co-worker executed their rights, no law was broken. If you, CFrance do not feel comfortable because the girl didn't have a mask on, don't go in but do not condemn the business or those you do not think that the masks are necessary at this time. Personally I think the gloves/masks are dirty. I would much rather see a server wash their hands on front of me like Subway employees do..
Thank you! It’s nice to see a commonsense post out here every now and then. I also believe that the gloves and the masks look worn and dirty. I would rather just see a clean employee.
Windguy
05-18-2020, 06:44 AM
Are restaurant workers required to wear masks?
They do if they want my business. Stores also need to require customers to wear “curtesy masks” if they want to do business with me.
NE05091
05-18-2020, 06:48 AM
I walk in the AM and noticed that The Lighthouse restaurant is now serving breakfast. They were using their veranda and set up tables on the boardwalk by the water. They were spaced nicely and I thought it was a good idea. The staff were wearing masks so, I took a menu. I walked by a few days later, and the staff was NOT wearing masks. I asked the outdoor hostess and waitresses why and they replied that their boss said, “If they didn’t feel sick, not to wear one.” I explained that they were putting themselves at risk along with others and they just giggled. I told them I had NO intention of dining there.
Mardarlowe
05-18-2020, 06:59 AM
I will now eat their custard 4 times a day to support them.
wiltma
05-18-2020, 07:04 AM
I totally agree. My ability to go back out to live life in these times depends on feeling safe and I cannot feel safe if masks are not worn. People seem to forget that my mask protects them and their mask protects me. All this “freedom “ stuff is nonsense. We need to protect each other out of love and kindness. The motto should be “ we, ourselves and us” not me myself and I. I will not be going to Ollies.
Kathe
05-18-2020, 07:04 AM
Good for you. Culver's is better and they are following all guidelines and are always very pleasant. Don't go anyplace that isn't respectful!
Ruggiero56
05-18-2020, 07:08 AM
After two months of not eating out at all, I stopped by Orange Blossom Cafe (in Fenney Rec Center) for an iced coffee. The employee, although very nice, was not wearing a mask. I was so disappointed and left. PLEASE, if you operate a food establishment, reward your employees who wear a mask (notice I didn’t say ‘mandate’). It’s for the protection of all of us. BTW - I won’t go back to the Cafe and I won’t eat at any place where employees aren’t wearing masks.
Jacob85
05-18-2020, 07:15 AM
It’s so nice to hear from someone who is taking the virus serious. We will not go there! Thanks
Kahiland
05-18-2020, 07:25 AM
Very well said. My husband and I refuse to EAT in a restaurant (definitely won't go to Ollie's...I understand u took out). We do more take out now more than usual to support the businesses. We wear our masks, I social distance and if I see someone with w/out a mask I will make purposeful move away from the person. People in TV are ignoring CDC guidelines.
Jayhawk
05-18-2020, 07:37 AM
Maybe because there are actually some people (businesses) that realize that 99% of the masks that you see out there are worthless and do next to nothing. in fact some doctors have said that they actually cause more problems!
If your that paranoid stay home.
Good advice, because if someone drives a car to a non-mask wearing business, they have a better chance of death from a car accident than they do from COVID at the business.
The top 10 leading causes of death in the United States (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/282929)
Unintentional injuries
Deaths in 2017: 169,936
Percentage of total deaths: 6%
Accidents, or unintentional injuries, are the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S. overall, and the leading cause of death for those aged 1–44.
Possible prevention measures
Accidents are unintentional and usually unavoidable. However, there are many ways to reduce the risk of accidental injury and death.
Some key components of accident prevention include focusing on road and workplace safety, such as using a seatbelt and never driving or operating heavy machinery while under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
Jayhawk
05-18-2020, 07:49 AM
Trouble maker... I won't go to a restaurant where employees are wearing masks. It makes me feel like I'm there to spend money and these people are sick and diseased. Just take their temperature. Troublemakers should stay home
:coolsmiley:
merrymini
05-18-2020, 07:59 AM
Masks are not mandated. We will survive this like we have every other virus and life has to get back to normal and that includes not wearing masks. But if you do not go out and buy stuff, any stuff, do not look for these places to exist in the future because they will not be able to economically survive. When you go out looking for services, including ice cream, they may not be there to serve it.
psmccants
05-18-2020, 08:17 AM
Where is Ollies, I love frozen custard??
Joe C.
05-18-2020, 08:29 AM
Reading this forum, I can't believe how many people "drank the Kool-Aid".
BTW, when the banks open up for inside business, will these same people walk in wearing a mask?
:boom:
Jazzman
05-18-2020, 08:31 AM
Maybe because there are actually some people (businesses) that realize that 99% of the masks that you see out there are worthless and do next to nothing. in fact some doctors have said that they actually cause more problems!
If your that paranoid stay home.
Yes!!!! Especially the home made masks or those purchased that are made out of cotton or a synthetic. Wonder if the wearer washes the mask on a daily basis after use? Most likely not so the mask is loaded with microbes of all types .
Scorpyo
05-18-2020, 08:44 AM
There are a number of things that help make a business successful. Some things that come to mind are: Providing a product or service that consumers want; providing a product or service that is of high quality; providing a product or service that consumers feel provide value for the cost; and a high level of customer service and satisfaction. I’ve never been to Ollie’s and probably never will. Why? One reason is because I don’t think the owner is very bright. Let’s look at this logically. Let’s say half the population doesn’t buy the mask thing. They would go to this establishment whether or not the staff is or is not wearing masks. Now let’s look at the other half that believe masks have some benefit (whether they do or don’t). Well, Ollie’s attitude just turned them off. So, why doesn’t his staff wear masks? Let’s look at all the negatives to wearing a mask. I guess one is the intolerable discomfort. After all aren’t they nailed or screwed onto the face? Oh wait a minute, they are cost prohibited. Those cheap 10 cent masks which cost $1.00 now will break the bank. If he has 6 staff members I guess that $6.00 a day will bankrupt him. So apparently he’s willing to turn away potentially 50% of the consumer base because they “don’t have” to wear masks. Pretty stupid to me. I prefer to spend my money at places that “appear” to be concerned with my health, whether they really are or not. Places like Walmart, Publix and Costco are not required to wear masks yet they do. Why? Because it makes some of their customers feel more comfortable.
worahm
05-18-2020, 08:49 AM
Unless you are talking about using a N-95 rated mask, wearing a cloth or surgical mask is equivalent to erecting a wire fence to keep the mosquitoes out of your yard. They are ineffective and are mostly a "feel good" solution.
graciegirl
05-18-2020, 08:50 AM
Maybe because there are actually some people (businesses) that realize that 99% of the masks that you see out there are worthless and do next to nothing. in fact some doctors have said that they actually cause more problems!
If your that paranoid stay home.
Many of us are informed, not paranoid, and we ARE staying home.
Coronavirus and age: Why Covid-19 is so dangerous for older adults - Vox (https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21173783/coronavirus-death-age-covid-19-elderly-seniors)
justjim
05-18-2020, 08:50 AM
Guidelines. Not laws.
Sounds like the owner has a “bad attitude”. That said, although the mask isn’t legally mandated, it protects the customer not the employer. I’m with the OP on this one.
kendi
05-18-2020, 09:04 AM
My husband and I are trying to support local business in a responsible way by wearing masks and following CDC guidelines. Last night we stopped by Ollies Frozen Custard but when we entered, the server was not wearing a mask. When questioned about this, she just shrugged and indicated she didn't have to. We made our purchase and left. Today I spoke with a co-owner who rudely informed me that there is not indication from the state that they HAVE to require their employees to wear a mask. When I pointed out that businesses around TV are having their employees masked, she said that was fine but she doesn't HAVE to make that a requirement and won't. When I pointed out that this was in total disrespect for her paying customers, she indicated that she didn't care. After 22 years of spending money in her store, it won't happen again! Just wanted to let people who are trying to be responsible in these times, Ollies is not respecting you. For people who are not following the CDC guidelines, don't bother commenting because, frankly, I don't care. This is just a warning for those of us who care for others.
Never been but I'll be sure to support them now. So tired of all the people who complain about what others do or do not do.
BlackhawksFan
05-18-2020, 09:13 AM
My husband and I are trying to support local business in a responsible way by wearing masks and following CDC guidelines. Last night we stopped by Ollies Frozen Custard but when we entered, the server was not wearing a mask. When questioned about this, she just shrugged and indicated she didn't have to. We made our purchase and left. Today I spoke with a co-owner who rudely informed me that there is not indication from the state that they HAVE to require their employees to wear a mask. When I pointed out that businesses around TV are having their employees masked, she said that was fine but she doesn't HAVE to make that a requirement and won't. When I pointed out that this was in total disrespect for her paying customers, she indicated that she didn't care. After 22 years of spending money in her store, it won't happen again! Just wanted to let people who are trying to be responsible in these times, Ollies is not respecting you. For people who are not following the CDC guidelines, don't bother commenting because, frankly, I don't care. This is just a warning for those of us who care for others.
But "Karen" you were so outraged you still made a purchase. Why not just walk out? According to what your major complaint is, spread of the virus, you did zilch to contain it buy making that purchase that was handled by someone w/o mask and gloves.
Do you see how ridiculous you look?
Ritabob
05-18-2020, 09:44 AM
People need to get over this obsession with masks. Why do you think they are not mandatory? Because they don't really prevent you from getting anything. They just make people feel good.
Joe V.
05-18-2020, 09:52 AM
Sounds like the owner has a “bad attitude”. That said, although the mask isn’t legally mandated, it protects the customer not the employer. I’m with the OP on this one.
Would really be interesting if we got the owner's side of the story.
HappyRetired
05-18-2020, 10:25 AM
Where is Ollies, I love frozen custard??
Bella Cruz Dr. Near Subway on the north end of the shopping center.
RDhot
05-18-2020, 10:43 AM
Yet you still shopped there. If you were not comfortable, you should have left before making a purchase
jarodrig
05-18-2020, 10:53 AM
My husband and I are trying to support local business in a responsible way by wearing masks and following CDC guidelines. Last night we stopped by Ollies Frozen Custard but when we entered, the server was not wearing a mask. When questioned about this, she just shrugged and indicated she didn't have to. We made our purchase and left. Today I spoke with a co-owner who rudely informed me that there is not indication from the state that they HAVE to require their employees to wear a mask. When I pointed out that businesses around TV are having their employees masked, she said that was fine but she doesn't HAVE to make that a requirement and won't. When I pointed out that this was in total disrespect for her paying customers, she indicated that she didn't care. After 22 years of spending money in her store, it won't happen again! Just wanted to let people who are trying to be responsible in these times, Ollies is not respecting you. For people who are not following the CDC guidelines, don't bother commenting because, frankly, I don't care. This is just a warning for those of us who care for others.
No disrespect meant but if you felt that offended by the employee/server not wearing a mask , why in the world did you not turn around and leave without purchasing anything ????
Instead , you purchased your ice cream ..... I honestly don’t get it ......
Edit: sorry I didn’t read the previous 4 pages of posts to realize others made the same comment .....
And judging by many of the responses, mine was quite kind ..... ;)
armyguyot1
05-18-2020, 11:22 AM
Using a business is like a vote every day. Everyone has an opinion and each is sure they are right. I was in Japan in the 90s and a lot of people there wore masks for transmittal reasons. Their numbers look pretty good through the virus.
fdpaq0580
05-18-2020, 11:46 AM
Using a business is like a vote every day. Everyone has an opinion and each is sure they are right. I was in Japan in the 90s and a lot of people there wore masks for transmittal reasons. Their numbers look pretty good through the virus.
I was there in the late 60s and masks were common then. Same story in a different time. What I don't remember is either group chastising or making fun of the other group. Very considerate and courteous of one another. I wonder if we could learn from their example?
Challenger
05-18-2020, 11:53 AM
I was there in the late 60s and masks were common then. Same story in a different time. What I don't remember is either group chastising or making fun of the other group. Very considerate and courteous of one another. I wonder if we could learn from their example?
Was in Vietnam last year , everyone in mask almost everywhere. Forward to May 2020=
Population about 100 mil - covid 19 cases -320 deaths from Covid 19 =0
Maybe they are/were on to something.
Mallioba
05-18-2020, 12:09 PM
Thank you! Totally agree!
fdpaq0580
05-18-2020, 12:26 PM
People need to get over this obsession with masks. Why do you think they are not mandatory? Because they don't really prevent you from getting anything. They just make people feel good.
Just an observation of this post. I think "obsession" might not be quite right here. People are "obsessed" with dogs, pickle ball, golf, etc. But not everyone with a dog or plays pickle ball or golf is obsessed. Not everyone shares your belief that everything is great and masks are useless. There is a lot of contradictory information and opinions going around right now. I'm guessing you may have noticed this. With this in mind, perhaps you may be able to understand why someone might want to try to lessen their sharing of potentially harmful droplets from sneezing, coughing or even talking.
As to your statement that masks don't keep you from getting anything, I might offer that, depending on what mask one uses, it may keep you from getting a snoot full of pollen, a mouthful of love bugs, and may even lessen the degree to which one may be exposed to any number of potentially harmful particles, chemicals, germs and bacteria.
Things are not normal right now and a lot of folks are stressed for any number of reasons. I would like to suggest that we all show a little compassion for each other and try to be a less judgmental.
JackRussell
05-18-2020, 12:37 PM
Surgeon General says cloth masks don't work. If they did everything could be 100% open. Masks are just for show. If the server doesn't have covid you won't get it. If she does, her mask wont do you any good if she hands you an infected cone.
justjim
05-18-2020, 03:24 PM
People need to get over this obsession with masks. Why do you think they are not mandatory? Because they don't really prevent you from getting anything. They just make people feel good.
With all due respect, why would masks be recommended by the CDC? “CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain”.
DeafDeaf
05-18-2020, 04:55 PM
No matter, RESPECT is a keyword, and those small business owners should encourage to comply with the guidelines! You can ask if the employee takes a hydroxychloroquine pill or not.
:a040:
PugMom
05-18-2020, 05:44 PM
Heard a similar criticism of Scooples , a few days ago. If I walked into and ice cream store and the server had no mask, I would walk out. If I didn't , I would be abetting the "crime" :a040:
so funny you posted this because i went in last week & the girl had to pull the mask down so i could understand what she saying:icon_wink:
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 03:15 PM
I'm just curious how do you eat your frozen custard with a mask on?
You don't. When it is impossible to wear a mask, such as when you are eating or drinking, it is imperative that you keep your distance from other people. Sometimes, it is not feasible to keep a 6 foot distance from a server so the server should get in the habit of standing back if it is possible. There is no perfect solution to this pandemic but we must do the best we can to not spread this virus and keep ourselves safe.
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 03:33 PM
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coffeebean
05-19-2020, 03:39 PM
Simple just put the custard in the sun for a few minutes then sip it through a straw,
It's still cold taste great.
I always carry a few straws in my car ya just never know when your need one. :)
Hmmm. I'm starting to wonder about your problem solving. :)
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 03:47 PM
Mask paranoia abounds. And many How a mask blocks droplets - YouTube (https://youtu.be/F0RcH9DfuyE)epidemiologists and other doctors have said they do very little or no good. That their value is mostly psychological.I’m heading to Ollie’s!
That is true of the wearer of the mask. However, the wearer of the mask, who may be an asymptomatic carrier of the virus, protects the people around them by blocking droplets from their nose and mouth. Droplets are the mode of transmission of the virus. One way to mitigate this deadly virus is by wearing masks. Home made masks are extremely effective at blocking droplets. Have a look at this video......
How a mask blocks droplets - YouTube (https://youtu.be/F0RcH9DfuyE)
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 05:27 PM
Thank you! It’s nice to see a commonsense post out here every now and then. I also believe that the gloves and the masks look worn and dirty. I would rather just see a clean employee.
I don't wear gloves. My mask is made of two layers of paper towel, one layer of printer paper and 2 layers of tissue. It is disposable so I wear a new mask every time I go into a store where social distancing can not be guaranteed. This includes grocery stores, pharmacies, warehouses, and retail stores. My mask always looks pristine because I discard it after I wear it one time.
My mask blocks droplets so I can not shed virus into the air if I ever become an asymptomatic carrier of the virus. I am keeping you safe, not myself.
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 05:30 PM
They do if they want my business. Stores also need to require customers to wear “curtesy masks” if they want to do business with me.
Costco requires masks be worn by all employees and all customers. Good for them!!!
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 05:34 PM
I walk in the AM and noticed that The Lighthouse restaurant is now serving breakfast. They were using their veranda and set up tables on the boardwalk by the water. They were spaced nicely and I thought it was a good idea. The staff were wearing masks so, I took a menu. I walked by a few days later, and the staff was NOT wearing masks. I asked the outdoor hostess and waitresses why and they replied that their boss said, “If they didn’t feel sick, not to wear one.” I explained that they were putting themselves at risk along with others and they just giggled. I told them I had NO intention of dining there.
Oh my goodness. This is a perfect example of someone who it truly misinformed. I guess this boss doesn't know that an asymptomatic carrier of the virus can infect people around them and not even know it. I'm afraid there are too many people who are not informed like this boss.
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 05:36 PM
I will now eat their custard 4 times a day to support them.
Another uninformed person.
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by ts12755
Trouble maker... I won't go to a restaurant where employees are wearing masks. It makes me feel like I'm there to spend money and these people are sick and diseased. Just take their temperature. Troublemakers should stay home
Replying to the above quote.........
Have you not been watching news media and Coronavirus updates for the past two months? You can not be serious that you think someone with a mask is sick and diseased. It is just the opposite. People are wearing masks because they feel fine and not sick but do not know if they may be an asymptomatic carrier of the disease. Would you prefer to be in contact with someone without a mask but is an asymptomatic carrier of the virus? Think about that!
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 06:17 PM
Unless you are talking about using a N-95 rated mask, wearing a cloth or surgical mask is equivalent to erecting a wire fence to keep the mosquitoes out of your yard. They are ineffective and are mostly a "feel good" solution.
Agree, home made masks are ineffective to protect the wearer of the mask. However, the mask blocks droplets which spew from a person's nose and mouth which carry the virus. Let's not forget many people are asymptomatic carriers of the virus. Masks protect the people around the wearer of the mask. Your mask protects me and my mask protects you. This is a very easy concept to grasp yet I see your sentiment by many posters on this forum which speaks to only half the equation.
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 06:20 PM
People need to get over this obsession with masks. Why do you think they are not mandatory? Because they don't really prevent you from getting anything. They just make people feel good.
Another uninformed person. Sad.
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 06:25 PM
Was in Vietnam last year , everyone in mask almost everywhere. Forward to May 2020=
Population about 100 mil - covid 19 cases -320 deaths from Covid 19 =0
Maybe they are/were on to something.
Masks mitigate the virus by blocking the droplets that contain the virus. Of course, they are on to something. Unfortunately, Americans will not be as compliant. I have a feeling, after reading many of the comments on this forum, that many people do not understand what the mask actually does to mitigate the virus (in other words....prevent the spread of the virus).
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 06:33 PM
Surgeon General says cloth masks don't work. If they did everything could be 100% open. Masks are just for show. If the server doesn't have covid you won't get it. If she does, her mask wont do you any good if she hands you an infected cone.
If the server is an asymptomatic carrier of the virus and she hands you a cone, I would hope she has washed her hands before she handed you the cone. Isn't that what food servers are supposed to do even prior to Covid guidelines? If the server wears a mask, you will be protected from her virus shedding even when she breathes or speaks to you. The server wearing the mask will also prevent him/her from touching his/her nose and mouth so he/she will not pick up the virus on his/her hands.
This is how we Americans can mitigate this virus........wash hands frequently, wear masks when you can not social distance yourself from others and distance yourself when you can.
jarodrig
05-19-2020, 07:05 PM
I don't wear gloves. My mask is made of two layers of paper towel, one layer of printer paper and 2 layers of tissue. It is disposable so I wear a new mask every time I go into a store where social distancing can not be guaranteed. This includes grocery stores, pharmacies, warehouses, and retail stores. My mask always looks pristine because I discard it after I wear it one time.
My mask blocks droplets so I can not shed virus into the air if I ever become an asymptomatic carrier of the virus. I am keeping you safe, not myself.
It’s amazing that you can breathe through all that at all !!!!
coffeebean
05-19-2020, 09:11 PM
It’s amazing that you can breathe through all that at all !!!!
Sounds difficult to breathe through but it really isn't. It is also very comfortable and fits against the face very nicely. The doctor who came up with this design tried several prototypes for the mask says it is good for 4 hours before you should change the mask. I like that it is disposable and it takes me about a minute to put it together.
croughwell
05-19-2020, 09:41 PM
Wait.... You felt so uncomfortable that you remained in the store and actually bought the food? Then complained about it after the fact?
jarodrig
05-20-2020, 06:20 AM
Wait.... You felt so uncomfortable that you remained in the store and actually bought the food? Then complained about it after the fact?
You’re a little late to the party . That observation has been made multiple times already....... I was late too cause I didn’t feel like reading multiple pages of posts .....;)
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